From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 18 13:02:50 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2015 18:02:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43627 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zz73v-0007HN-HK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 13:02:50 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53695) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zz6gY-0006ZT-Lz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:38:41 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zz6gX-0006Pw-5W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:38:22 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,HTML_MESSAGE, RECEIVED_FROM_WINDOWS_HOST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:34161) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zz6gX-0006Pj-2n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:38:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35462) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zz6gS-0007uq-Gr for bug-parted@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:38:21 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zz6gM-0006F0-Tz for bug-parted@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:38:16 -0500 Received: from cas080-co-10.exch080.serverdata.net ([199.193.205.100]:22475 helo=out.west.exch080.serverdata.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zz6gM-0006E3-Ms for bug-parted@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:38:10 -0500 Received: from MBX080-W4-CO-1.exch080.serverpod.net (10.224.117.101) by MBX080-W4-CO-1.exch080.serverpod.net (10.224.117.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1130.7; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 09:07:54 -0800 Received: from MBX080-W4-CO-1.exch080.serverpod.net ([10.224.117.101]) by mbx080-w4-co-1.exch080.serverpod.net ([10.224.117.101]) with mapi id 15.00.1130.005; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 09:07:54 -0800 From: David Billsbrough To: "bug-parted@gnu.org" Subject: physical versus virtual disks Thread-Topic: physical versus virtual disks Thread-Index: AdEiI4H2NYgxpGTOTaO+JOgB4v1mKA== Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 17:07:53 +0000 Message-ID: <4316eee9b65c4691a1112a5c3600041b@mbx080-w4-co-1.exch080.serverpod.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [208.118.22.228] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_4316eee9b65c4691a1112a5c3600041bmbx080w4co1exch080serve_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 7 or 8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 13:02:30 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) --_000_4316eee9b65c4691a1112a5c3600041bmbx080w4co1exch080serve_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is an ongoing chat between a systems administrator and a applications = developer: It is in regards to what is an Amazon S3 'bucket' and how looks like a hard= drive in the cloud. As the admin I think that it existence does not give a S3 bucket every attr= ibute of a real physical hard drive. So if I ran the parted command or any other GPT aware utility against the d= ev files the point to a connected S3 bucket and tried to create a GUID part= ition table (GPT) and tried to preserve that configuration across the resta= rting of virtual instances that there would be no guarantees of it persiste= nce. Thoughts? Where in a virtual disk is the structures that store MBR, GPT, Inode struct= ures and reserve areas for bad block data that is contained on a real physi= cal hard drive? regards, David --_000_4316eee9b65c4691a1112a5c3600041bmbx080w4co1exch080serve_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This is an ongoing chat between a systems administra= tor and a applications developer:

 

It is in regards to what is an Amazon S3 'bucket' an= d how looks like a hard drive in the cloud.

 

As the admin I think that it existence does not give= a S3 bucket every attribute of a real physical hard drive.

 

So if I ran the parted command or any other GPT awar= e utility against the dev files the point to a connected S3 bucket and trie= d to create a GUID partition table (GPT) and tried to preserve that configu= ration across the restarting of virtual instances that there would be no guarantees of it persistence.<= /p>

 

Thoughts?

 

Where in a virtual disk is the structures that store= MBR, GPT, Inode structures and reserve areas for bad block data that is co= ntained on a real physical hard drive?

 

regards,

 

David

--_000_4316eee9b65c4691a1112a5c3600041bmbx080w4co1exch080serve_-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 01 21:23:15 2015 Received: (at 21954-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Dec 2015 02:23:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35527 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a3x4d-0000fJ-AN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 21:23:15 -0500 Received: from cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com ([107.14.166.228]:43407 helo=cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a3x4b-0000f9-JJ for 21954-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2015 21:23:13 -0500 Received: from [72.239.162.168] ([72.239.162.168:50492] helo=[192.168.1.141]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 27/A8-31313-0165E565; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 02:23:13 +0000 Subject: Re: bug#21954: physical versus virtual disks To: 21954-done@debbugs.gnu.org References: <4316eee9b65c4691a1112a5c3600041b@mbx080-w4-co-1.exch080.serverpod.net> From: Phillip Susi Message-ID: <565E5610.8070807@ubuntu.com> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 21:23:12 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4316eee9b65c4691a1112a5c3600041b@mbx080-w4-co-1.exch080.serverpod.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21954-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 11/18/2015 12:07 PM, David Billsbrough wrote: > Where in a virtual disk is the structures that store MBR, GPT, > Inode structures and reserve areas for bad block data that is > contained on a real physical hard drive? Obviously the same place they are on a real disk, otherwise it wouldn't be much of a "virtual" disk now would it? Closing this bug report since it is not a bug report at all. For discussion see parted-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJWXlYNAAoJEBB5UWFcu6UWEA0H/2e+LwEz7lMX6udhDx3SKbGQ ibRg75w34kudRx/PjCVeMZsyYWJHPZ+MhvmF4jig/JUFIVU/3zZ1WSkDgeR70Eby XA6JI5WBQRQ5O8JfdYnFwjlSHmajvrrS/D3iQpGPuFrMcagE/lyGM3PVkAhiLdv4 h28vFkkbmi4t5XUA7jn8WviRUYBEdnnjdK2pJo3nG6CPGFtO3u205oxSDXRg0S7a VQ8ApIHdxbOkDZ/tUqwQOzPtI2ex4W/FgiB/0GHN7mTTm9hPuPob1dpgjwZFGerU cBCZkQD0e1yX4wuAI0y+BU0KUdGCzTd+yHz9U6MT7sf2Z+dtlFq9FcFXaSJeCVk= =yMPL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From unknown Sat Sep 06 14:23:59 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 12:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator