From unknown Tue Sep 09 00:44:35 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#21952 <21952@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#21952 <21952@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.5; auto-revert-tail-mode doesn't work (perhaps because of nfs) Reply-To: bug#21952 <21952@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2025 07:44:35 +0000 retitle 21952 24.5; auto-revert-tail-mode doesn't work (perhaps because of = nfs) reassign 21952 emacs submitter 21952 dan.dever@cavium.com severity 21952 normal tag 21952 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 18 11:45:56 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2015 16:45:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43546 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zz5rV-0004xw-De for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 11:45:56 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48478) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zz4wr-0003N6-Qp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:47:06 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zz4wn-0001OW-2a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:47:05 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50, RECEIVED_FROM_WINDOWS_HOST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:58204) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zz4wm-0001OS-VK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:47:00 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58450) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zz4wl-0004ki-W6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:47:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zz4wg-0001NC-T5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:46:59 -0500 Received: from static-108-20-23-69.bstnma.fios.verizon.net ([108.20.23.69]:6651 helo=smtp2.caviumnetworks.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zz4wg-0001Ms-PA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:46:54 -0500 Received: from maexch1.caveonetworks.com (Not Verified[192.168.14.20]) by smtp2.caviumnetworks.com with MailMarshal (v7, 2, 2, 6606) id ; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:00:15 -0500 Received: from ln-ddever.caveonetworks.com ([10.10.1.32]) by maexch1.caveonetworks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:00:15 -0500 Received: from ln-ddever.caveonetworks.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ln-ddever.caveonetworks.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id tAIF0FeC000991; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:00:15 -0500 Received: (from ddever@localhost) by ln-ddever.caveonetworks.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id tAIF0F9D000989; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:00:15 -0500 From: dan.dever@cavium.com To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, dan.dever@cavium.com Subject: 24.5; auto-revert-tail-mode doesn't work (perhaps because of nfs) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:00:15 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2015 15:00:15.0968 (UTC) FILETIME=[D559DE00:01D12211] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 7 or 8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 11:45:35 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) I'm accustomed to monitoring the log files of running jobs with emacs using auto-revert-tail-mode. This no longer works on Emacs 24, but works fine on previous versions of Emacs. I don't know if the fact that our disks are mounted via NFS is the problem or not, but I ran one trial on a local disk in which auto-revert-tail-mode did work. Regards, Dan Standard form below: ---------------------------------------------------------------- emacs -Q logfile M-> M-x auto-revert-tail-mode In GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of 2015-04-13 on ln-ddever Windowing system distributor `Scientific Linux', version 11.0.11300000 System Description: Red Hat Enterprise Linux Client release 6 (Carbon Update 4) Configured using: `configure --prefix=/ddever/emacs/emacs-24.5' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: en_US locale-coding-system: iso-latin-1-unix Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: auto-revert-tail-mode: t tooltip-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Mark set File changed on disk, content may be missing. Perform a full revert? (y or n) y Reverting buffer `logfile'. Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort gnus-util mail-extr emacsbug message format-spec rfc822 mml easymenu mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util help-fns mail-prsvr mail-utils autorevert filenotify vc-dispatcher vc-svn time-date tooltip electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind gfilenotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 72844 7584) (symbols 48 17666 0) (miscs 40 48 149) (strings 32 9868 4609) (string-bytes 1 283769) (vectors 16 9186) (vector-slots 8 386766 15190) (floats 8 68 422) (intervals 56 246 175) (buffers 960 13) (heap 1024 32659 870)) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 18 12:41:21 2015 Received: (at 21952) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2015 17:41:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43601 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zz6jQ-0006fF-T5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:41:21 -0500 Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:37030) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zz6jO-0006f3-5i for 21952@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:41:19 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NY000O00U2HLC00@mtaout28.012.net.il> for 21952@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:40:10 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NY000I9RUEYFV70@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:40:10 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:41:13 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#21952: 24.5; auto-revert-tail-mode doesn't work (perhaps because of nfs) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: dan.dever@cavium.com Message-id: <83mvub9pdy.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21952 Cc: 21952@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: dan.dever@cavium.com > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:00:15 -0500 > > I'm accustomed to monitoring the log files of running jobs with emacs > using auto-revert-tail-mode. This no longer works on Emacs 24, but > works fine on previous versions of Emacs. I don't know if the fact > that our disks are mounted via NFS is the problem or not, but I ran one > trial on a local disk in which auto-revert-tail-mode did work. > > Regards, > Dan > > > Standard form below: > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > emacs -Q logfile > M-> > M-x auto-revert-tail-mode Does it help to set auto-revert-use-notify to nil? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 23 04:22:23 2016 Received: (at 21952) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2016 08:22:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37513 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bc6yV-00056a-8N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2016 04:22:23 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:49578) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bc6yT-00056M-2j for 21952@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2016 04:22:21 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.51.171]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MOO6X-1bWtlv2yDF-005qaE; Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:22:10 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#21952: 24.5; auto-revert-tail-mode doesn't work (perhaps because of nfs) References: <83mvub9pdy.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:22:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83mvub9pdy.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:41:13 +0200") Message-ID: <87h9abevym.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:XNz4W+Kl0boHvgqwrKunItiVwwe0/UU1dXh9wqehX9qcB/0naTA prV+3o2oje53RGWFR6bh3C7EyxTJRpdhwYXcxmmLc+goH8BYOT3wi03eqXHdDDDhcI/Vrm5 5MQdD5Myx70GdqB/5hI6zmkpNIlEgoiSSH2KfAXDZwJhk2FLTHYjlOiFM0g1PCF1RIWiaUX sHgkp9hbJdXGtTVWNBixw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:K8TuIRBQyss=:qH6uV8S86P/UHdqOoDN4FP 6DnYCnLsOWemYrHXQZFXdH+N0fPT6++mnos73GHFfXR+8c0FMPP/HDGdmOJ1X8NGqUUKgVqCm xZJQrOPDWBmLdfs1AZce0Vh4zmDvRn5uE2w7cctJAqyg4bg+NeeEppLZQhbkjOfgt1fwwmSJa KV2H/alaPAZfyz/vyOFANu1bfEt8OnI8AzkaspQ4yKOd4QOEdDUucZylpPxs+0MKayV5JyMcR uoA7VjfTVEYZPp3DDOCFWakYJp28u+yJ9rhBqy8AXgWsi2+qGYYBz3qJPrUUnEyZsbCVf+OmJ EpUcihHXIUk2YZzKfF8YchSLU+eqPsPvMBEuistwGawn3/XxItcSSUJWq01B2akmAw4b7xJvP tp+XNP54H4OZkAyIi1Do9IcUbZyz9Bw9XZCnnQXvvnEnLneC08eixWRZVgvgGdyOq9wwEOy3I IXoHvyTWyQXK94Wbtg4T58wHWpPFND1Ob/lTHupD7iD/++DLnFS+bmfYm9noT4Mi3a5QCM+90 +1afFbV2CX/8RuSbJcChJshyxQXIaWZ0eEVZoBDjWxmN8DkavbowSg9garHQd2giNPUDFKCGI 9cWBBPmdsHzsg/IdGrzmLZvoP6kGh3GUSvxBNWIjN0On6J192nM4nopODieVgoioA3KRqJhs7 +RFix5wCHgf/dNcB7mMpcBX6aZkZ3D+sQof9y+WYL3X4p404bRMYGGo+0H6ldwVF0gKlpdiXf J602UuMA2+BVNKEgdrG+InY7dFXdwgvGHEmt/W4oEgsDLaEVqapbzeRUp2jsCNUwvL/+YQIdW 4VXhSgX X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21952 Cc: dan.dever@cavium.com, 21952@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I'm accustomed to monitoring the log files of running jobs with emacs >> using auto-revert-tail-mode. This no longer works on Emacs 24, but >> works fine on previous versions of Emacs. I don't know if the fact >> that our disks are mounted via NFS is the problem or not, but I ran one >> trial on a local disk in which auto-revert-tail-mode did work. > Does it help to set auto-revert-use-notify to nil? When autorevert detects a file on a known mount location, `auto-revert-use-notify' is set to nil per default. See `auto-revert-notify-exclude-dir-regexp', which uses (regexp-opt '("/afs/" "/media/" "/mnt" "/net/" "/tmp_mnt/")) Perhaps, the file Dan wants to watch is mounted somewhere else. In this case I recommend to extend that variable. Dan, could you check whether this works for you? Best regards, Michael. 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See > `auto-revert-notify-exclude-dir-regexp', which uses > > (regexp-opt '("/afs/" "/media/" "/mnt" "/net/" "/tmp_mnt/")) > > Perhaps, the file Dan wants to watch is mounted somewhere else. In this > case I recommend to extend that variable. > > Dan, could you check whether this works for you? This does work (tried it on emacs-25.0.95). I prefer just setting auto-revert-use-notify to nil, however, since we'd never be using auto-revert on locally mounted files anyways. But thanks for mentioning the alternative. What also works is the configuration switch that we recently discovered (and have used to build 25.1-rc1/-rc2): "--with-file-notification=no". I'm not sure I understand the preference for using a file notification utility by default for auto-revert when that utility only works on locally mounted files. I haven't worked in an environment where our storage has been locally mounted in decades, and I've never had a reason to use auto-revert at home. Thanks, Dan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 02 09:43:46 2016 Received: (at 21952-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Sep 2016 13:43:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47101 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bfol0-0008Oo-Eg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2016 09:43:46 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:62224) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bfoky-0008Ob-MZ for 21952-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2016 09:43:45 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.60.119]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lpgew-1bCYHQ1dbC-00fQGu; Fri, 02 Sep 2016 15:43:34 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Dan Dever Subject: Re: bug#21952: 24.5; auto-revert-tail-mode doesn't work (perhaps because of nfs) References: <83mvub9pdy.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9abevym.fsf@gmx.de> <57C97763.4040307@caviumnetworks.com> Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 15:43:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: <57C97763.4040307@caviumnetworks.com> (Dan Dever's message of "Fri, 2 Sep 2016 08:58:11 -0400") Message-ID: <87k2euju2i.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:gU42FwrpWCgGUsoGb5HKeRbJwFPSShMpnECSa1L9VVJLM/kHt8U M0RAAipiBW8QCwyMeAV9Qxk7GGVFd7BpwW43smTPSofSUQ8R30rEw/K6Syd5YBQZzRz8xGK XeSN5JnBWagXGQXrY9p5QY0efBEdVSiZnGt38norE8f0ccczB9tEGvkjQyp/Z14R8NuO7d4 xY9DwiUB+F3GunJceqwrQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:MmPQjwWaqWc=:f6hzNRkrK/fMOQaoPPg9z2 THBotfeLvOPtjgAAMI0ufmVSw8hMX6uIDT7PaSN3u1kSwndSNmd/ehh+dHOb3wWf3D1suVA5s jzSaSz/4YBw31pM4CRrNDNEDWyO9MW2Nra4o0swruS6XtyMj2FcPDt84ZyAyo07w1I8MoD1fl StQZ/5sDo5qLYIu/3o9slfElCa/B4ZlsnrcZR9zIW6943qxb2PCE1yx46Elv2FObCVAwT5+h5 5jYIiAN6VoCaOsaDYW9jNNDaoLiK/dh7byTzNfywhysCtevLTC/DETHyyLRfqux+uvKAQswqY JVimdMpylGisG2Q52UteUFKHcjN3lPH9pV7cUGr9u2GrcwGJrZ1LZpSdBzbQw6mGS0MfTyDv6 PmvZcDXNy11372VRVSz7O83w4S/6aYuopQGZYlV0kqCuHsjv5nwOZGrg935CtJe0WfYm4Y83G nOnWp9qljN239Xg4yjHZ0vXP7jq65gZwKOOnaipimKjjtcX9Lew9o5VM1OCo4Vz3fe7efJqIC LWSpB+B7fC3786Eze6rBpzmmRsSk5MUa/YJifiLCyu25F+dWS185j8omE2jYK8Qp/dcneBC/s xLACMDQiiFkKiPHpUayrZSj+/YsUYC2/f3BZPnhBPNni/1S1UFE/mLDoMWIm5gGTtRW64YmHl o+XdmwVD4JqXoySQfCIWLQZOIK+ez2JmE5XK44+QeVfwBN776ffZGfS8GSbLvIyNfkDsZJ7KY FWRmX5ZMNGZH6rA+AnH22kIRxPwIYXt7eZQYTG8nxWDGQQXcgJ7nrX6epFBLT4RGD0SNBDP6M oKnrx8z X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21952-done Cc: 21952-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Dan Dever writes: Hi Dan, > On 08/23/2016 04:22 AM, Michael Albinus wrote: >> When autorevert detects a file on a known mount location, >> `auto-revert-use-notify' is set to nil per default. See >> `auto-revert-notify-exclude-dir-regexp', which uses >> >> (regexp-opt '("/afs/" "/media/" "/mnt" "/net/" "/tmp_mnt/")) >> >> Perhaps, the file Dan wants to watch is mounted somewhere else. In this >> case I recommend to extend that variable. >> >> Dan, could you check whether this works for you? > > This does work (tried it on emacs-25.0.95). > > I prefer just setting auto-revert-use-notify to nil, however, since > we'd never be using auto-revert on locally mounted files anyways. But > thanks for mentioning the alternative. Thanks for checking. So I will close this bug. > What also works is the configuration switch that we recently > discovered (and have used to build 25.1-rc1/-rc2): > "--with-file-notification=no". > > I'm not sure I understand the preference for using a file notification > utility by default for auto-revert when that utility only works on > locally mounted files. I haven't worked in an environment where our > storage has been locally mounted in decades, and I've never had a > reason to use auto-revert at home. There are good reasons for file notifications. Think about working in a git-controlled directory of source files, where file changes could happen outside Emacs. You want to be informed about, immediately. But if you don't need it, it is totally OK to compile without file notification support. > Thanks, > Dan Best regards, Michael. 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