From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21858: package-initialize: no good in .emacs! Resent-From: David Reitter Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2015 03:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 21858 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 21858@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-Xcc: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.144695268924185 (code B ref -1); Sun, 08 Nov 2015 03:19:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2015 03:18:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57185 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvGUb-0006I0-9u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 22:18:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44027) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvGUG-0006HF-B2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 22:18:06 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvGUF-0007L2-LL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 22:17:48 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,FREEMAIL_FROM, FREEMAIL_REPLY,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:37994) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvGUF-0007Ky-IA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 22:17:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54033) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvGUE-00088G-NB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 22:17:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvGUB-0007Km-Hg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 22:17:46 -0500 Received: from mail-qg0-x232.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c04::232]:35160) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvGUB-0007Kh-Dl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 22:17:43 -0500 Received: by qgec40 with SMTP id c40so58916225qge.2 for ; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 19:17:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:message-id:date :to:mime-version; bh=hVyJUhDXkWVRrAfYforE8VSnuNIhTcgXAWgOHFbjUG4=; b=IO101kr3C3vgOtIqRHXVA4Zp3cIrjzv+VLc2CguZjG3s+ph5CQRtVDUSSDwuw4LY23 Pp/GxbgnvrkaKhkrNljFy+31qSUzGmvHco+uiGJqBEXuDdrC98BsoaYHI6LVxDzcd/dC jsT8eJQgGaxaDw/g2HSlfsngJucr3bVdkwzssfydcDrJZUo3z/aXwZicLs/ZCQIutxkB Of1uByBWm0zvY+yX9zGfXFZUs2+JwKkwSwGWJ9/4JMO9bilkaVjCn5F3Fh2WqazdLJQV SUHXBSOpxdpnNfAQuYprO/siitJuULg6YlV+zGQXXDwkvrKIVpsOe1Epz4x83UAu5YMM 0wXw== X-Received: by 10.140.128.16 with SMTP id 16mr21955906qha.54.1446952662918; Sat, 07 Nov 2015 19:17:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.23] (c-71-58-212-112.hsd1.pa.comcast.net. [71.58.212.112]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 63sm175333qgl.31.2015.11.07.19.17.41 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 07 Nov 2015 19:17:41 -0800 (PST) From: David Reitter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4C00C642-8BBA-4980-A997-F128757CADD1@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 22:17:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.0 \(3094\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3094) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-CC: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Emacs 25=E2=80=99s package system liberally modified my ~/.emacs, adding = a call do `package-initialize=E2=80=99. What happens when I call emacs from the command line (as opposed to one = installed elsewhere, like a GUI Emacs in /Applications)? > An error has occurred while loading `/Users/dr/.emacs': >=20 > Symbol's function definition is void: package-initialize =E2=80=A6 because my command-line emacs is an older one, such as the one = that comes with the latest version of OS X (Emacs 22). This is not a good state of affairs...= From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21858: package-initialize: no good in .emacs! Resent-From: Juanma Barranquero Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2015 14:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21858 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: David Reitter Cc: 21858@debbugs.gnu.org, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Received: via spool by 21858-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21858.144699405114730 (code B ref 21858); Sun, 08 Nov 2015 14:48:02 +0000 Received: (at 21858) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2015 14:47:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57376 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvRFj-0003pW-ED for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 09:47:31 -0500 Received: from mail-lb0-f174.google.com ([209.85.217.174]:35479) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvRFg-0003pL-Jd for 21858@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 09:47:29 -0500 Received: by lbces9 with SMTP id es9so14185586lbc.2 for <21858@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 06:47:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=NrV86eKyZrL7TSrghIK4hrPYXbfYppybqGzsTzPGC9o=; b=tudZCIj0mhS0X3xprXniO67oho1vuGo5AvPiRKPbciC0pUgRJRVH4b65r6itVeyeCi 31/91KzmDQJvTRJMqBK3KY/UiZWnwhCotWzatmsAlAriQ+qm8iwBDN3Jfd0YK6RSqhcN wDn+OwikGm3D/awOHNxVCvYO3WFt1foVP6E6N6zFfk0iaBszwnqf+/gpqPrj85T2pgPI zlQSCPg8qqSLecONSnm/4RVHaFp04gTooxYnCTI28hLthJNLQPPKsXxerk/Ugxszhfof 0C5PSJpqfmKZGMIt0WfZA+yNC278HvTcdrogs4GZJBP3VfSrr/q3n6hmAkKAMipTqap3 xiTA== X-Received: by 10.112.234.163 with SMTP id uf3mr12012253lbc.15.1446994047588; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 06:47:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.217.132 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Nov 2015 06:46:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4C00C642-8BBA-4980-A997-F128757CADD1@gmail.com> References: <4C00C642-8BBA-4980-A997-F128757CADD1@gmail.com> From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 15:46:46 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c317e832e09f0524088e47 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --001a11c317e832e09f0524088e47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 4:17 AM, David Reitter wrote: > > Symbol's function definition is void: package-initialize Obviously you could work around it by adding (unless (fboundp 'package-initialize) (defalias 'package-initialize 'ignore)) to your init file... > This is not a good state of affairs... ...but I couldn't agree more with you about packages messing with the init file. I *hate* custom for several reasons, and that's one of them. --001a11c317e832e09f0524088e47 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 4:17 AM, David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
> > Symbol's function definition is void: package-ini= tialize

Obviously you could work around it by adding

(unless (fboundp 'package-initialize) (defalias &#= 39;package-initialize 'ignore))

to your init f= ile...

> This is not a good state of affairs...=

...but I couldn't agree more with you about packages= messing with the init file. I *hate* custom for several reasons, and that&= #39;s one of them.
--001a11c317e832e09f0524088e47-- From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21858: package-initialize: no good in .emacs! Resent-From: Artur Malabarba Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2015 15:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21858 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Juanma Barranquero Cc: David Reitter , 21858@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Received: via spool by 21858-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21858.144699733819813 (code B ref 21858); Sun, 08 Nov 2015 15:43:02 +0000 Received: (at 21858) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2015 15:42:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57768 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvS6j-00059V-Sw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 10:42:18 -0500 Received: from mail-lf0-f42.google.com ([209.85.215.42]:33439) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvS6P-00058m-8Z for 21858@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 10:42:15 -0500 Received: by lffz63 with SMTP id z63so21833528lff.0 for <21858@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 07:41:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=q43iQ3f1ROxQWfyyRhU6/UUdASBNA3bd466fP4JGS/4=; b=z/mJtyQ/fbuMg5doqPAkm5leK+o6HikzyFE9VHL4ouZoDZj5ztMJo5XnWfxZGFjvtF G21MFA8joQNKwmrIBa7Hw2Vh7fRLluvPD4BKgXAmIsvIkMlDMUFW/mBFC4FsA6HE3xz8 PmbSaGaJ0GgLYi1NDAUKsGLfHMEekoTdtUdCk4i3cVlBOmDN0FSB0EC8V77xJFFJ0OXQ eLui6LanpIQY959tDrFtTuWozI+MJU23Cp+M46hNW/HA0kAcAmlj+LxLeoWZny+hKBqR ruF4cMuBEJxTT8FJ9dr5Nn3EHh0bcBB21+vdvf8wA2QVbV5f+twck07635TZWy3Fwkw8 WL9Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.25.164.134 with SMTP id n128mr7216820lfe.3.1446997316387; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 07:41:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.63.70 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Nov 2015 07:41:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4C00C642-8BBA-4980-A997-F128757CADD1@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 15:41:56 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9rgJnVF9qAmomjcI6OZUmiHagCQ Message-ID: From: Artur Malabarba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) 2015-11-08 14:46 GMT+00:00 Juanma Barranquero : > On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 4:17 AM, David Reitter > wrote: > >> > Symbol's function definition is void: package-initialize > > Obviously you could work around it by adding > > (unless (fboundp 'package-initialize) (defalias 'package-initialize > 'ignore)) Or just comment out that `(package-initialize)' line, as explained in the comments inserted above it. If you do that, you're left with the usual behaviour from Emacs 24. From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21858: package-initialize: no good in .emacs! In-Reply-To: <4C00C642-8BBA-4980-A997-F128757CADD1@gmail.com> Resent-From: Wolfgang Jenkner Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2015 17:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21858 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Juanma Barranquero Cc: David Reitter , bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, 21858@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 21858-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21858.144700213526897 (code B ref 21858); Sun, 08 Nov 2015 17:03:02 +0000 Received: (at 21858) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2015 17:02:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57785 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvTM6-0006zl-Ji for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:02:14 -0500 Received: from b2bfep14.mx.upcmail.net ([62.179.121.59]:49354) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvTLl-0006z0-Vi for 21858@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:02:13 -0500 Received: from edge11.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.81]) by b2bfep14.mx.upcmail.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.18 201-2260-151-151-20140610) with ESMTP id <20151108170152.WHBN25444.b2bfep14-int.chello.at@edge11.upcmail.net> for <21858@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 8 Nov 2015 18:01:52 +0100 Received: from iznogoud.viz ([91.119.133.190]) by edge11.upcmail.net with edge id f51r1r00U46eDrP0B51rvJ; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 18:01:52 +0100 X-SourceIP: 91.119.133.190 Received: from wolfgang by iznogoud.viz with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ZvTLj-0003Qc-AG; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 18:01:51 +0100 From: Wolfgang Jenkner Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2015 18:00:13 +0100 References: <4C00C642-8BBA-4980-A997-F128757CADD1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <85mvuo2znk.fsf@iznogoud.viz> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Sun, Nov 08 2015, Juanma Barranquero wrote: > I *hate* custom for several reasons, and that's one of them. If only it could be ripped out of emacs... Anyway, isn't setting `custom-file' enough to prevent custom from messing with ~/.emacs? (I realize this bug report is not about custom, sorry). From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21858: package-initialize: no good in .emacs! 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[71.58.212.112]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 20sm3200373qhg.13.2015.11.08.09.03.05 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 08 Nov 2015 09:03:05 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.0 \(3094\)) From: David Reitter In-Reply-To: <85mvuo2znk.fsf@iznogoud.viz> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 12:03:04 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6304856F-960F-40EB-843E-E1D775E7F8C3@gmail.com> References: <4C00C642-8BBA-4980-A997-F128757CADD1@gmail.com> <85mvuo2znk.fsf@iznogoud.viz> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3094) X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Nov 8, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Wolfgang Jenkner wrote: > Anyway, isn't setting `custom-file' enough to prevent custom from > messing with ~/.emacs? Yes, and that works. 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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id i201sm16630835ita.14.2018.02.17.06.19.07 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 17 Feb 2018 06:19:07 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky References: <4C00C642-8BBA-4980-A997-F128757CADD1@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 09:19:06 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4C00C642-8BBA-4980-A997-F128757CADD1@gmail.com> (David Reitter's message of "Sat, 7 Nov 2015 22:17:40 -0500") Message-ID: <87a7w77l7p.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tags 21858 fixed close 21858 27.1 quit David Reitter writes: > Emacs 25=E2=80=99s package system liberally modified my ~/.emacs, adding = a call do `package-initialize=E2=80=99. This is fixed in master now. 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[45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id q25sm20081094ioh.21.2018.02.17.19.00.55 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 17 Feb 2018 19:00:55 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson Subject: Re: bug#30507: Be sure to let user know you have surreptitiously edited his .emacs file References: <874lmfau46.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 22:00:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: <874lmfau46.fsf@jidanni.org> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4ueWwvA==?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Sun, 18 Feb 2018 10:50:49 +0800") Message-ID: <87tvuf57dl.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control Cc: 30507@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) severity 30507 wishlist close 30507 merge 30507 21858 quit =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: > Today I just happened to have my eyes near the screen when starting [...] > Can you please notify him when you tamper with .emacs itself? Thanks. As it happens, today's master no longer does this writing. [1: 24acb31c04]: 2018-02-17 13:36:16 +0200 Add early init file, stop package-initialize insertion https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=3D24acb31c04b4048b= 85311d794e600ecd7ce60d3b