From unknown Fri Jun 20 19:46:10 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#21784 <21784@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#21784 <21784@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: xz-5.0.4.tar.gz is unavailable upstream Reply-To: bug#21784 <21784@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 02:46:10 +0000 retitle 21784 xz-5.0.4.tar.gz is unavailable upstream reassign 21784 guix submitter 21784 "-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" severity 21784 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 29 08:27:55 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Oct 2015 12:27:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43365 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrmJ8-0005nf-Fv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 08:27:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52730) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrhfq-0005da-W9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 03:31:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrhfp-0002Nl-MT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 03:31:02 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,TVD_SPACE_RATIO,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:42952) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrhfp-0002Nh-KK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 03:31:01 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34490) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrhfo-0006eE-Kw for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 03:31:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrhfn-0002NM-Hp for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 03:31:00 -0400 Received: from mail-vk0-x232.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::232]:34926) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrhfn-0002NH-5O for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 03:30:59 -0400 Received: by vkfw189 with SMTP id w189so21031564vkf.2 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 00:30:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=UI6n0mfBBCpIUKR8f2NkU6JzCRGkdLuqGx3P5+mhFkI=; b=ilNvvXRKhoafpO9+chXw1TsavP4DyuyUD9tLs8mfdi4gKsFxl24N0urd6lAmoxZQtt 640FkK1dPYzGI3m+h6RqU063TOHPwExdo+L1lWvYk58WHakzz0BJ+ESuVWL5DTMku2TH YLhNzrHe/rF5HK6vaRMCo1VpEzgz4PHdRAPky3Kg1AJbXaWfhrfkIuckqBGH2QSjGGwR hlLW5XEgFVzoIZCKSIkNhH4K/NCeFiSvge6yYLzgBEcyFpmmlOi/p/j9YbatckrW7m8O 3PIMW4+PkTOigI9f8U0h1Pjih+/IApaVAj8ox0EKiGI7EXCReBS63rqxhDna9/K8Yp3S 0VPg== X-Received: by 10.31.50.16 with SMTP id y16mr139259vky.75.1446103858551; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 00:30:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.167.12 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 00:30:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "-=}\\*/{=-" Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:30:39 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: cannot install icecat! To: bug-guix@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11430b6acc23c20523394afc X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 08:27:52 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) --001a11430b6acc23c20523394afc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 starting download of `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' from ` http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz'... ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 "Forbidden" failed to download "/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" from " http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" builder for `/gnu/store/1y6b3ar37ff4q16714m77d56giv01cr5-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz.drv' failed to produce output path `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' --001a11430b6acc23c20523394afc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--001a11430b6acc23c20523394afc-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 29 15:20:50 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Oct 2015 19:20:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44558 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrskj-0007Pn-Qo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:20:50 -0400 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:60642) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrskO-0007PH-IW for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:20:47 -0400 Received: from debian-netbook (85.65.229.31.dynamic.barak-online.net [85.65.229.31]) by flashner.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4096240405; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:20:19 +0200 From: Efraim Flashner To: "-=}\\*/{=-" Subject: Re: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Message-ID: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/rbV0waOflJ66wshTpBGC=ye"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) --Sig_/rbV0waOflJ66wshTpBGC=ye Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:30:39 +0000 "-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" wrote: > starting download of > `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' from ` > http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz'... > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 > "Forbidden" > failed to download > "/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" from " > http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" > builder for > `/gnu/store/1y6b3ar37ff4q16714m77d56giv01cr5-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz.drv' failed = to > produce output path > `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' from tukaani.org/xz: Important Availability of .tar.gz and .tar.bz2 files of certain old XZ Utils versions have been temporary suspended because they are consume too much of the web hosting bandwidth quota. The files will be restored in November 2015, but further changes may be needed if the problem persist. Sorry for the inconvenience. It would be nice if developers of source-based distributions had their own mirrors from where the users' computers would download the source packages. It's not good if a package manager on every user's machine downloads the source package from the upstream site.=20 If we didn't need xz to unpack the tarball we could switch it. 5.0.4 is pretty old, is that for the bootstrap? --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --Sig_/rbV0waOflJ66wshTpBGC=ye Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWMnF0AAoJEPTB05F+rO6TEtoP/187NB4HXpbvG2RG0T58GL++ bp1cPOo4hPazOx/8Xzb//rQYS3VkFWHqCSPLlTxX+uNEX8yXHUR7G4LUkx8UiO4o 2OEYS17y7uPhZ0zdNNuDwb6+qXgzBWnsKniMVgGG17j9jb1Q/GdcRESCzW20E9wv RRycWGMu6GPRkDsbBMuyhNvyxaVsKxJMR3ZaaZjNnEnIR4iraF9oIdvWVnhezGfp hSxK57QcXb9/lA8B6tMmpFEvPr4oLzd/5TMPpTF8Bz6SybSk0YTlDz2w0PvRUhML HsQ5KKjXGSnVBDsvMVPd1WquuVHLqb13EFljMBO+3CLLVX772+6lZBKSesV5msAa Soq/5B/UEi4jTXkKjIRFV6/zwH/kdp6kP3eYmeSG/9xvspEI8pCHmiL2Yt3lXi4I Di5s5+MD+GdN3xmxApxixunJECrSkUL1M1Y08bDE7pvg56YzD4eJRzwBJa4P1Yc1 isyUKJ995/fYxD0LvZmXN+LSHJTyFWGVIStEFByntvc3VcohiBz5tMuEv2HTIdZD CkgQ+KvfpvsOzhiYqVE/c1eDAHeDsExWtcsUcdMpp/z3S5t5dT/e8CTHFlQERgKM 5leVup/vUEZTLmjyyT1PGiUNbodLNN48VSOQHHmMd5teEmu4/YTmwbHJLvscJApe G9TaIn0XlqCd5YbwFZGA =6Kaw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/rbV0waOflJ66wshTpBGC=ye-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 29 15:23:47 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Oct 2015 19:23:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44562 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrsna-0007Ue-Gd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:23:46 -0400 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:60673) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrsnY-0007UW-Hp for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:23:45 -0400 Received: from debian-netbook (85.65.229.31.dynamic.barak-online.net [85.65.229.31]) by flashner.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A4C0D40405; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:23:43 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:23:40 +0200 From: Efraim Flashner To: "-=}\\*/{=-" Subject: Re: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Message-ID: <20151029212340.41d47423@debian-netbook> In-Reply-To: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/uL+D0dOZkh+W9f3TfR.IytV"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) --Sig_/uL+D0dOZkh+W9f3TfR.IytV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:20:19 +0200 Efraim Flashner wrote: > On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:30:39 +0000 > "-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" wrote: >=20 > > starting download of > > `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' from ` > > http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz'... > > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 > > "Forbidden" > > failed to download > > "/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" from " > > http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" > > builder for > > `/gnu/store/1y6b3ar37ff4q16714m77d56giv01cr5-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz.drv' faile= d to > > produce output path > > `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' =20 >=20 > from tukaani.org/xz: >=20 > Important >=20 > Availability of .tar.gz and .tar.bz2 files of certain old XZ Utils versio= ns > have been temporary suspended because they are consume too much of the web > hosting bandwidth quota. The files will be restored in November 2015, but > further changes may be needed if the problem persist. Sorry for the > inconvenience. >=20 > It would be nice if developers of source-based distributions had their own > mirrors from where the users' computers would download the source package= s. > It's not good if a package manager on every user's machine downloads the > source package from the upstream site.=20 >=20 > If we didn't need xz to unpack the tarball we could switch it. 5.0.4 is > pretty old, is that for the bootstrap? >=20 I spoke too soon, 5.0.4 is our current copy while 5.2.2 is upstream, and the 5.0.x branch is apparently now unmaintained. Unfortunately, I think it's fa= ir to say that at least half of the packages depend on xz, including the bootstrap, so updating will involve lots of rebuilds. --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --Sig_/uL+D0dOZkh+W9f3TfR.IytV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJWMnI9AAoJEPTB05F+rO6Tl5cP/13Y8AeEgfuNQyC2FCnltbCl VkixqHRU0xXpZYAD/70ORqnqeD/x7dNCVEHXUfP6nuFWQXFItsH4Vcd80kGGe9V1 YIXn6+BEJ0FN7jn2EUWnngMZ/7EiCj5tkhpJAlFqJqJcPE1i5yFB3CMGQupJOngl zisbwHjgrS+V44ysRjI8jp+mK7o6f4SzDwXVEzTbOt2IX3a+3yOaNmxemqyzqpwj XK4W7+0LIqeQJecT5SqHAEsA2FlQ4AxTIbFkXpU4ztwypybofuJ48rBcmE9XW6Up f+mmHAWIsAeZabsZoz8GzykflRi/+Zvs3xWEmfvLRqAlRazFwYbclX+6FaFgFwLq WlpgNmjwEe2C7j2wmfaYBlupFQUgDAsrrNlRiUIfsLKQGnaFOrHb1CqU+Gq2mTE5 CTqw9b8LlPyxbuWFHF1uhEqbNT589kRQawTiVeLUQHtHmDwTkHbew22vSdPXhjZA SpueMMuVIJjMWvqOynXIgPG6vqnpqEeiWiV2Ys0AyR52Akx9dWeAWxS2DAva0mOR emaUdHSt/5c4n1ZnTXq5OqwsGSSd3CIMTpT1DS/ELde+kfwII3Cjo0YRvz2bCLsx wv0GkWOHidKmvAPhUOAcO6B//iux8qK3YAtNhEDHMcsoiaO0nSWvkidDJb3gCtRI tpNvj4hRvCmVdLhchik4 =vWDK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/uL+D0dOZkh+W9f3TfR.IytV-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 29 15:31:21 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Oct 2015 19:31:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44574 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrsuu-0007jP-CE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:31:20 -0400 Received: from mail-vk0-f66.google.com ([209.85.213.66]:35576) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrsuY-0007iX-1W for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:31:16 -0400 Received: by vkex70 with SMTP id x70so2526373vke.2 for <21784@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:30:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=zurk5XEYv73OKOXZgpvHu9IO/IHfkNQDzxgG5OCX4fU=; b=WUdqW6xXC0HmQ8DaY5SO8P5Lpq0kBdc20V9NIMx6Vqfdp3Dd9ZBE7qcJ0PcVrOQYdp G3S9MqU6A0zGUcTX6hPS5JmHsG64QxhDbCndVszii7zHcyfDKJmeG8CqEF0vJrB0DoSu d8rdDDoI6EGlusqIzToWeFopHMtXUnEEQUEgCvZZBwHgZJjqTxcaEAZQX6CBbquzHOM+ Sjw5sNsqHraPPPt20wqaCnAaiEJ6hcaLxwruSDF8fCqgQN50kmLiJFzIkxPeVmZLY3SH KDmU5Lb9bS0tmZbabxhz0y1DaLpfM3p+UTO6LI65V2dA1aV5lHVG6zfw2HwdRMSVIvDf K6dQ== X-Received: by 10.31.16.26 with SMTP id g26mr2690256vki.1.1446147057331; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:30:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.167.12 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:30:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> From: "-=}\\*/{=-" Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:30:37 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! To: Efraim Flashner Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11433130a532190523435902 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --001a11433130a532190523435902 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi... :) i'm just a gun fan... i use linux since 2000, debian. had a try with nixos, then i found guix. i' running it on top of jessie to use icecat as richard stallman suggests. i'm doing it for the kick's of it. i barely really understand what you say. i just want to use icecat and get acquainted with the new gnu system and integrate it well along with debian... for now. []r. On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Efraim Flashner wrote: > On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:30:39 +0000 > "-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" wrote: > > > starting download of > > `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' from ` > > http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz'... > > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 > > "Forbidden" > > failed to download > > "/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" from " > > http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" > > builder for > > `/gnu/store/1y6b3ar37ff4q16714m77d56giv01cr5-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz.drv' faile= d > to > > produce output path > > `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' > > from tukaani.org/xz: > > Important > > Availability of .tar.gz and .tar.bz2 files of certain old XZ Utils versio= ns > have been temporary suspended because they are consume too much of the we= b > hosting bandwidth quota. The files will be restored in November 2015, but > further changes may be needed if the problem persist. Sorry for the > inconvenience. > > It would be nice if developers of source-based distributions had their ow= n > mirrors from where the users' computers would download the source package= s. > It's not good if a package manager on every user's machine downloads the > source package from the upstream site. > > If we didn't need xz to unpack the tarball we could switch it. 5.0.4 is > pretty old, is that for the bootstrap? > > -- > Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7= =9D =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 > GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 > Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypt= ed > --001a11433130a532190523435902 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi... :)

i'm just a gun fan...
=

i use linux s= ince 2000, debian.
had a try with nixos, the= n i found guix.
i' running it on top of = jessie to use icecat as richard stallman suggests.

i'm doing it for the kick= 9;s of it.
i barely really understand what y= ou say.

= i just want to use icecat and get acquainted with the new gnu system and in= tegrate it well along with debian... for now.

[]r.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Efrai= m Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:30:39 +0000
"-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" <rui.d= amas@gmail.com> wrote:

> starting download of
> `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' from= `
> http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz'... > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.= 4.tar.gz" 403
> "Forbidden"
> failed to download
> "/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz"= ; from "
> http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz"
> builder for
> `/gnu/store/1y6b3ar37ff4q16714m77d56giv01cr5-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz.drv' = failed to
> produce output path
> `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz'

from tukaani.org/xz:

Important

Availability of .tar.gz and .tar.bz2 files of certain old XZ Utils versions=
have been temporary suspended because they are consume too much of the web<= br> hosting bandwidth quota. The files will be restored in November 2015, but further changes may be needed if the problem persist. Sorry for the
inconvenience.

It would be nice if developers of source-based distributions had their own<= br> mirrors from where the users' computers would download the source packa= ges.
It's not good if a package manager on every user's machine download= s the
source package from the upstream site.

If we didn't need xz to unpack the tarball we could switch it. 5.0.4 is=
pretty old, is that for the bootstrap?

--
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--001a11433130a532190523435902-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 29 15:39:31 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Oct 2015 19:39:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44579 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrt2o-0007w5-MM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:39:31 -0400 Received: from mail-vk0-f65.google.com ([209.85.213.65]:36388) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrt2m-0007vw-5h for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:39:28 -0400 Received: by vkfw189 with SMTP id w189so2546492vkf.3 for <21784@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:39:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=DU7jvDybigkhcGXe/QomLi0WpKFxYxA0ejrFWrHaONM=; b=Xqhj4UhIhCJwkgbgvoX+DNVjYjWqhInYrXF0SRz0KEZ5lcEd23xdVu+6cVfySk4S1w AsMu7tE6juJ5STN8ZfypB/ndLjMFu4hNdZ/RD6/BTiFd+vsejBUm7QW0IEicdeTfRcyK YotFIhD3xb7PUqcX1EkonjdhkdfebmwOC/EOmmyblCsKO3gIWq/xiuWmL9FCLziNMiby crK6UJXys3B3z4QCCmDRhaHmUIL9ROydkFGPjc94YD7g0+HkevA7so58Ml4ydOGFlNW9 QGhmPbmjnDi7hK7Fj9PgM0PWIeZAl5G5hn4NdJyB+0zvr14xOMABwkVRl7QoZkwwjY6D icNw== X-Received: by 10.31.50.16 with SMTP id y16mr2629952vky.75.1446147567611; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:39:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.167.12 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:39:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> From: "-=}\\*/{=-" Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:39:08 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! To: Efraim Flashner Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11430b6a0f78b90523437845 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784 <21784@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --001a11430b6a0f78b90523437845 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lulz: i was not expecting AT ALL that icecat, suggested publicly, the only package i needed (for now), the kick start, would fail to install... (lol: please tell murphy to leave the room)... when is fixed 'there' do i use "pull" or "package upgrade"? []r. On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:30 PM, -=3D}\*/{=3D- wrote: > hi... :) > > i'm just a gun fan... > > i use linux since 2000, debian. > had a try with nixos, then i found guix. > i' running it on top of jessie to use icecat as richard stallman suggests= . > > i'm doing it for the kick's of it. > i barely really understand what you say. > > i just want to use icecat and get acquainted with the new gnu system and > integrate it well along with debian... for now. > > []r. > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Efraim Flashner > wrote: > >> On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:30:39 +0000 >> "-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" wrote: >> >> > starting download of >> > `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' from ` >> > http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz'... >> > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 >> > "Forbidden" >> > failed to download >> > "/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" from " >> > http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" >> > builder for >> > `/gnu/store/1y6b3ar37ff4q16714m77d56giv01cr5-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz.drv' >> failed to >> > produce output path >> > `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' >> >> from tukaani.org/xz: >> >> Important >> >> Availability of .tar.gz and .tar.bz2 files of certain old XZ Utils >> versions >> have been temporary suspended because they are consume too much of the w= eb >> hosting bandwidth quota. The files will be restored in November 2015, bu= t >> further changes may be needed if the problem persist. Sorry for the >> inconvenience. >> >> It would be nice if developers of source-based distributions had their o= wn >> mirrors from where the users' computers would download the source >> packages. >> It's not good if a package manager on every user's machine downloads the >> source package from the upstream site. >> >> If we didn't need xz to unpack the tarball we could switch it. 5.0.4 is >> pretty old, is that for the bootstrap? >> >> -- >> Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7= =9D =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 >> GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 >> Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received >> unencrypted >> > > --001a11430b6a0f78b90523437845 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
lulz: i was not expecting AT ALL= that icecat, suggested publicly, the only package i needed (for now), the = kick start, would fail to install... (lol: please tell murphy to leave the = room)...

when is fixed 'there' do i use "pull" or "package u= pgrade"?

[]r.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:30 PM, -=3D}\*/{=3D- &= lt;rui.damas@gmail= .com> wrote:
hi... :)

i'm just a gun fan...

i use linux since 2000, deb= ian.
had a try with nixos, then i found guix= .
i' running it on top of jessie to use = icecat as richard stallman suggests.

i'm doing it for the kick's of it.
i barely really understand what you say.
<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace;font-s= ize:small;color:#000000">
i just want to= use icecat and get acquainted with the new gnu system and integrate it wel= l along with debian... for now.

[]r.

On Thu, Oct = 29, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:30:39 = +0000
"-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" <rui.damas@gmail.com> wrote:

> starting download of
> `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz' from= `
> http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz'... > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.= 4.tar.gz" 403
> "Forbidden"
> failed to download
> "/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz"= ; from "
> http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz"
> builder for
> `/gnu/store/1y6b3ar37ff4q16714m77d56giv01cr5-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz.drv' = failed to
> produce output path
> `/gnu/store/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz'

from tukaani.org/xz:

Important

Availability of .tar.gz and .tar.bz2 files of certain old XZ Utils versions=
have been temporary suspended because they are consume too much of the web<= br> hosting bandwidth quota. The files will be restored in November 2015, but further changes may be needed if the problem persist. Sorry for the
inconvenience.

It would be nice if developers of source-based distributions had their own<= br> mirrors from where the users' computers would download the source packa= ges.
It's not good if a package manager on every user's machine download= s the
source package from the upstream site.

If we didn't need xz to unpack the tarball we could switch it. 5.0.4 is=
pretty old, is that for the bootstrap?

--
Efraim Flashner=C2=A0 =C2=A0<efraim@flashner.co.il>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=D7=90=D7=A4=D7= =A8=D7=99=D7=9D =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8
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--001a11430b6a0f78b90523437845-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 29 15:51:13 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Oct 2015 19:51:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44611 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrtE8-0008Ee-In for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:51:12 -0400 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:32900) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrtE5-0008EU-RN for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:51:10 -0400 Received: from debian-netbook (85.65.229.31.dynamic.barak-online.net [85.65.229.31]) by flashner.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7F4E040405; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:51:02 +0200 From: Efraim Flashner To: "-=}\\*/{=-" Subject: Re: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Message-ID: <20151029215102.384751ae@debian-netbook> In-Reply-To: References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/NBuK8/zvzU7_eVfAsoxYBpW"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) --Sig_/NBuK8/zvzU7_eVfAsoxYBpW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:30:37 +0000 "-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" wrote: > hi... :) > > i'm just a gun fan... I think most of us are GNU fans too, welcome! =20 > i use linux since 2000, debian. > had a try with nixos, then i found guix. > i' running it on top of jessie to use icecat as richard stallman suggests. >=20 > i'm doing it for the kick's of it. > i barely really understand what you say. Sorry, I that really wasn't my intention. I saw the version was old and my first thought was to update it to a later version. > i just want to use icecat and get acquainted with the new gnu system and > integrate it well along with debian... for now. >=20 > []r. >=20 It turns out that hydra, the automated build server for guix, has a copy of xz that you can download if you authorize hydra to provide substitutions. With a copy of hydra.gnu.org.pub, the command is `sudo guix archive --authorize hydra.gnu.org.pub`. After that, instead of building everything locally, your computer will first check to see if hydra has already built a package and you can just download it. 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References: X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 8 Brumaire an 224 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x3D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:27:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: (rui.damas@gmail.com's message of "Thu, 29 Oct 2015 07:30:39 +0000") Message-ID: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org, lasse.collin@tukaani.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) "-=3D}\*/{=3D-" skribis: > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 > "Forbidden" This seems to be an issue at tukaani.org since this URL is still listed at . Lasse: Could it be that the permissions for old tarballs were inadvertently changed? -=3D}\*/{=3D-: in the meantime, you can work around it by enabling substitutes, since hydra.gnu.org has it in cache: http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 29 16:28:09 2015 Received: (at request) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Oct 2015 20:28:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44633 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrtnt-0000iU-KE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:28:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55044) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrtnr-0000iM-SB for request@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:28:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrtnp-0004yY-UB for request@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:28:07 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52873) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrtnp-0004yU-RL for request@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:28:05 -0400 Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr ([80.67.176.83]:41532 helo=pluto) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrtnp-0005qD-11 for request@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:28:05 -0400 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: request@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: retitle X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 8 Brumaire an 224 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x3D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:28:03 +0100 Message-ID: <87mvv18lnw.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: request X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) retitle 21784 xz-5.0.4.tar.gz is unavailable upstream thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 29 19:08:34 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Oct 2015 23:08:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44873 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrwJ7-00084X-Nv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:08:34 -0400 Received: from mail-vk0-f44.google.com ([209.85.213.44]:33060) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrwIn-000844-EL for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:08:32 -0400 Received: by vkgy127 with SMTP id y127so37377430vkg.0 for <21784@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:08:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=P2RBZKaodNZv0NzMKz5imiaCWLTrEzxVIJRJhMcoeTQ=; b=mDWbOFI7v0Cnk5FiESSch76xN75h0eaWCyTh/yS1sw1aQb7z3GkiKOxb2BSpYIaO0u oLV9QKViY6BEgy/8tsrv2A3WbH/zKRcPlX8syZU70crFOrcCtArC+qy8SILb0Jsm+kaD D4Pl47r8H84YWqQ9gTTXWM9ddVBOmFXAJiPxANOsuDxtSv7rXe37KgRVaVj0u+xXqfEL ngH6hLywQEQVlEvcUIdMmUD3E4WR9+OGXx/TTmTfpCuQFgWgTknWotbWMDR93+h03wOd oKHGp35zWLTJ5Z9fA9fRzIwHgk0Wi/LRns11tdQgLVA+3rvH+w5bj87y8ps5bj0qmwbE eVLQ== X-Received: by 10.31.16.26 with SMTP id g26mr3354739vki.1.1446160093108; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:08:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.167.12 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:07:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> From: "-=}\\*/{=-" Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 23:07:53 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! To: =?UTF-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11433130a3605e0523466229 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784 <21784@debbugs.gnu.org>, Andreas Enge , lasse.collin@tukaani.org, Efraim Flashner X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --001a11433130a3605e0523466229 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable # @ ~root ... .guix-profile/bin/guix archive --authorize < .guix-profile/share/guix/hydra.gnu.org.pub .guix-profile/bin/guix -u # ... did nothing .guix-profile/bin/guix pull --verbose # compiled lots of files .guix-profile/bin/guix -u # ... did lots of stuff, but no icecat .guix-profile/bin/guix package -i icecat # ... :) nice... how do i clean possible rolbacks? [ty all] r. On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > "-=3D}\*/{=3D-" skribis: > > > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 > > "Forbidden" > > This seems to be an issue at tukaani.org since this URL is still listed > at . > > Lasse: Could it be that the permissions for old tarballs were > inadvertently changed? > > -=3D}\*/{=3D-: in the meantime, you can work around it by enabling > substitutes, since hydra.gnu.org has it in cache: > > http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html > > Thanks, > Ludo=E2=80=99. > --001a11433130a3605e0523466229 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
# @ ~root ...

.guix-profile/bin/guix archive -= -authorize < .guix-profile/share/guix/hydra.gnu.org.pub
=

.guix-profile/bin/gu= ix -u
# ... did nothing

<= font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"monospace, monospace">.guix-profile/bin/guix= pull --verbose
# compiled lots of files=

.guix-profile/bin/guix -u
# = ... did lots of stuff, but no icecat

<= div class=3D"gmail_default">
.guix-profile/bin/guix package -i iceca= t
# ... :)

nice... how do i clean possible rolbacks?

[ty all] r.


On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8= :27 PM, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
"-=3D}\*/{=3D-" <rui.damas@gmail.com> skribis:

> ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.= 4.tar.gz" 403
> "Forbidden"

This seems to be an issue at tukaani.org since this URL is still listed=
at <http://tukaani.org/xz/old.html>.

Lasse: Could it be that the permissions for old tarballs were
inadvertently changed?

-=3D}\*/{=3D-: in the meantime, you can work around it by enabling
substitutes, since hydra.gnu.org has it in cache:

=C2=A0 http://www.gnu.org/software= /guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.

--001a11433130a3605e0523466229-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 29 19:21:06 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Oct 2015 23:21:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44897 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrwVF-0008O0-L0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:21:06 -0400 Received: from mail-vk0-f47.google.com ([209.85.213.47]:34642) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrwVD-0008Ns-Dc for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:21:03 -0400 Received: by vkgs66 with SMTP id s66so37301405vkg.1 for <21784@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:21:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=tTmhZM1tZx3nV0+VZjucPWI3tocHYPnfgNQooVC5Kok=; b=o9SyaJ/m1jEzaUymLis1XtEDKK6KCLBxwXtVAF+kf9qsjRuH09xngTuipKYua3Vxbk D4BqG2U7lGBoTtaTq0RHnGH+jJ/065+nWDJUvgegZJu89ijdEayKp3pgQ3BFyqsevtcr FrH8ATnuTdLHklEVO1HBlRI2dMNANJZci1tpv4x4dT1CGfqYxocYMUWedYLZEo0m26x9 m1M2QhPHsmrkJuZ4BDUUJ3mP5+PXndEUGj5ElkS7KPX3rOl/ePh0wP/XXyARgFqXKiJ5 hRlvvuMOGBbxmfzV82pDfwpweK2hYSotwL9ode0BYxVqqYIFeO5sAkpJUfTCcQd6fx0A YLnQ== X-Received: by 10.31.170.151 with SMTP id t145mr2979701vke.31.1446160863096; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:21:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.167.12 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:20:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> From: "-=}\\*/{=-" Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 23:20:43 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! To: =?UTF-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1142d8e28876ff05234690c7 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784 <21784@debbugs.gnu.org>, Andreas Enge , "lasse.collin" , Efraim Flashner X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --001a1142d8e28876ff05234690c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable guix gc --optimize # 75.02 MiB freed by hard-linking 10086 files guix gc # ... deleted some files :) [ty]r. On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:07 PM, -=3D}\*/{=3D- wrote= : > # @ ~root ... > > .guix-profile/bin/guix archive --authorize < > .guix-profile/share/guix/hydra.gnu.org.pub > > .guix-profile/bin/guix -u > # ... did nothing > > .guix-profile/bin/guix pull --verbose > # compiled lots of files > > .guix-profile/bin/guix -u > # ... did lots of stuff, but no icecat > > .guix-profile/bin/guix package -i icecat > # ... :) > > nice... how do i clean possible rolbacks? > > [ty all] r. > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrot= e: > >> "-=3D}\*/{=3D-" skribis: >> >> > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 >> > "Forbidden" >> >> This seems to be an issue at tukaani.org since this URL is still listed >> at . >> >> Lasse: Could it be that the permissions for old tarballs were >> inadvertently changed? >> >> -=3D}\*/{=3D-: in the meantime, you can work around it by enabling >> substitutes, since hydra.gnu.org has it in cache: >> >> http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html >> >> Thanks, >> Ludo=E2=80=99. >> > > --001a1142d8e28876ff05234690c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
= guix gc --optimize=C2=A0
# 75.02 MiB free= d by hard-linking 10086 files

<= div class=3D"gmail_default">guix gc
<= div class=3D"gmail_default"># ... deleted some files :)

[ty]r.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:07 PM= , -=3D}\*/{=3D- <rui.damas@gmail.com> wrote:
# @ ~root ...

.guix-profile/bin/guix archive --authorize &l= t; .guix-profile/share/guix/hydra.gnu.org.pub

<= /font>
.guix-profile/bin/guix -u
# ...= did nothing

.guix-profile/bin= /guix pull --verbose
# compiled lots of files

.guix-= profile/bin/guix -u
# ... did lots of stuff, but no= icecat

<= div class=3D"gmail_default">.guix-profile/bin/guix package -i icecat
# = ... :)

nice... how= do i clean possible rolbacks?

[ty all] r.


On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@g= nu.org> wrote:
"-=3D}\= */{=3D-" <= rui.damas@gmail.com> skribis:

> ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.= 4.tar.gz" 403
> "Forbidden"

This seems to be an issue at tukaani.org since this URL is still listed=
at <http://tukaani.org/xz/old.html>.

Lasse: Could it be that the permissions for old tarballs were
inadvertently changed?

-=3D}\*/{=3D-: in the meantime, you can work around it by enabling
substitutes, since hydra.gnu.org has it in cache:

=C2=A0 http://www.gnu.org/software= /guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.


--001a1142d8e28876ff05234690c7-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 30 03:54:08 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Oct 2015 07:54:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45217 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs4Vj-0004SO-P4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 03:54:08 -0400 Received: from mail-vk0-f53.google.com ([209.85.213.53]:36173) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs4Vh-0004SG-IX for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 03:54:06 -0400 Received: by vkex70 with SMTP id x70so42244434vke.3 for <21784@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 00:54:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=QZ+h1dz3ORRRcIDHaNtrnIJuEPav3wOThcI8uhcUDtA=; b=NFymWiKwVrGlAawJ0ZsyVGDSUO+BqvpM6RVauz5/83oxeIZuFO0aEYaU4Ohph5l4BS Bybath92lZ8xV91C4+rST/mUIDldkDqh49v3Sed2lrUPPzDM9z3n1StynbIBphYuI98a ulf7qHKVOg8UWLiRXSqfkg/k8dm6e4z4f6jWLFDy0+uvWGcckx3/yoJqx9QsoG9+kx7u jL7E+XdbpvjHM6dDd6xze4VuGa30rvnUyHn7TqAtu835YtsoUu7qtkGu1nCkrkhGG2PM gBIwPuWUYBBKi8Reisg4xy6gH7U9BdCClh0MjNwucVyhTRh7tYynBHX2tMFGM4N+2Vwc 6fLg== X-Received: by 10.31.50.16 with SMTP id y16mr4486058vky.75.1446191644961; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 00:54:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.167.12 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 00:53:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> From: "-=}\\*/{=-" Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:53:45 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! To: =?UTF-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11430b6a46737805234dbbeb X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784 <21784@debbugs.gnu.org>, Andreas Enge , "lasse.collin" , Efraim Flashner X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --001a11430b6a46737805234dbbeb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable rehi... just have one more little problem... in the footnote at the end of this page: http://www.gnu.org/soft ware/guix/manual/html_node/Build-Environment-Setup.html "If your machine uses the systemd init system, dropping the prefix/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service file in /etc/systemd/system will ensure that guix-daemon is automatically started." i did this: ln -s /root/.guix-profile/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service /etc/systemd/ ... but it does no start at boot... i'am able to start/stop it with: systemctl start guix-daemon systemctl stop guix-daemon ... but not enable it... :( systemctl enable guix-daemon says: "Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory" i'm still used to the old init.d scheme and not acquainted with the new one... how can i easily solve this? []r. On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:20 PM, -=3D}\*/{=3D- wrote= : > guix gc --optimize > # 75.02 MiB freed by hard-linking 10086 files > > guix gc > # ... deleted some files :) > > [ty]r. > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:07 PM, -=3D}\*/{=3D- wro= te: > >> # @ ~root ... >> >> .guix-profile/bin/guix archive --authorize < >> .guix-profile/share/guix/hydra.gnu.org.pub >> >> .guix-profile/bin/guix -u >> # ... did nothing >> >> .guix-profile/bin/guix pull --verbose >> # compiled lots of files >> >> .guix-profile/bin/guix -u >> # ... did lots of stuff, but no icecat >> >> .guix-profile/bin/guix package -i icecat >> # ... :) >> >> nice... how do i clean possible rolbacks? >> >> [ty all] r. >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wro= te: >> >>> "-=3D}\*/{=3D-" skribis: >>> >>> > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 >>> > "Forbidden" >>> >>> This seems to be an issue at tukaani.org since this URL is still listed >>> at . >>> >>> Lasse: Could it be that the permissions for old tarballs were >>> inadvertently changed? >>> >>> -=3D}\*/{=3D-: in the meantime, you can work around it by enabling >>> substitutes, since hydra.gnu.org has it in cache: >>> >>> http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ludo=E2=80=99. >>> >> >> > --001a11430b6a46737805234dbbeb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
rehi...

just have one more litt= le problem...

in the footnote at the end of this page:
http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/man= ual/html_node/Build-Environment-Setup.html

"If your machine uses th= e systemd init system, dropping the prefix/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.s= ervice file in /etc/systemd/system will ensure that guix-daemon is automati= cally started."

i did this:
=C2=A0 ln -s /r= oot/.guix-profile/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service=C2=A0/etc/systemd/
=

... but it does no s= tart at boot...

i'am able to start/stop it with:
=C2=A0 systemctl start guix-daemon
=C2=A0 systemctl = stop guix-daemon

... but not enable i= t... :(

=C2=A0 systemctl enable guix-daemon

says: = "Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory"

i'm st= ill used to the old init.d scheme and not acquainted with the new one... ho= w can i easily solve this?

[]r.
=

On Thu, Oct= 29, 2015 at 11:20 PM, -=3D}\*/{=3D- <rui.damas@gmail.com>= wrote:
guix gc --optimize=C2=A0
# 75.02 MiB freed by hard-linking 10086 files

guix = gc
# ...= deleted some files :)

[ty]r.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 1= 1:07 PM, -=3D}\*/{=3D- <rui.damas@gmail.com> wrote:
<= font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"monospace, monospace"># @ ~root ...

.guix-profile/bin/guix archive --autho= rize < .guix-profile/share/guix/hydra.gnu.org.pub
.guix-profile/bin/guix -u

.guix-prof= ile/bin/guix pull --verbose
# compiled lots of file= s

.guix-profile/bin/guix -u
# ... did lots of stuff,= but no icecat

.guix-profile/bin/guix package -i icecat
# ... :)

nice.= .. how do i clean possible rolbacks?

<= div class=3D"gmail_default">[ty all] r.


On Thu= , Oct 29, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s <ludo@gnu.org> wr= ote:
"-=3D}\*/{=3D-" <rui.damas@gmail.com&= gt; skribis:

> ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.= 4.tar.gz" 403
> "Forbidden"

This seems to be an issue at tukaani.org since this URL is still listed=
at <http://tukaani.org/xz/old.html>.

Lasse: Could it be that the permissions for old tarballs were
inadvertently changed?

-=3D}\*/{=3D-: in the meantime, you can work around it by enabling
substitutes, since hydra.gnu.org has it in cache:

=C2=A0 http://www.gnu.org/software= /guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.



--001a11430b6a46737805234dbbeb-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 30 04:02:21 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Oct 2015 08:02:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45232 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs4dg-0004gd-Qv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 04:02:21 -0400 Received: from flashner.co.il ([178.62.234.194]:43232) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zs4de-0004gU-Sn for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 04:02:19 -0400 Received: from debian-netbook (85.65.229.31.dynamic.barak-online.net [85.65.229.31]) by flashner.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5606D40284; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 08:02:17 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 10:02:13 +0200 From: Efraim Flashner To: "-=}\\*/{=-" Subject: Re: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Message-ID: <20151030100213.100389af@debian-netbook> In-Reply-To: References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/FsKyvWrR4pBVgx6NZZM2Cvw"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784 <21784@debbugs.gnu.org>, Ludovic =?UTF-8?B?Q291cnTDqHM=?= , Andreas Enge X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) --Sig_/FsKyvWrR4pBVgx6NZZM2Cvw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:53:45 +0000 "-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" wrote: > re hi... >=20 > just have one more little problem... >=20 > in the footnote at the end of this page: > http://www.gnu.org/soft > ware/guix/manual/html_node/Build-Environment-Setup.html >=20 > "If your machine uses the systemd init system, dropping the > prefix/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service file in /etc/systemd/system > will ensure that guix-daemon is automatically started." >=20 > i did this: > ln -s /root/.guix-profile/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service > /etc/systemd/ you're missing the last system, the symlink goes in /etc/systemd/system/ > ... but it does no start at boot... >=20 > i'am able to start/stop it with: >=20 > systemctl start guix-daemon > systemctl stop guix-daemon >=20 > ... but not enable it... :( >=20 > systemctl enable guix-daemon >=20 > says: "Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory" >=20 > i'm still used to the old init.d scheme and not acquainted with the new > one... how can i easily solve this? 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To: Efraim Flashner Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1143313086cda705234e04c1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784 <21784@debbugs.gnu.org>, =?UTF-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= , Andreas Enge X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --001a1143313086cda705234e04c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... sorry, my bad at writing last email... i do have the symlink at /etc/systemd/system/ ... otherwise would not work for start/stop (i presume)... only `enable' does not. ... so it presists. []r. On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Efraim Flashner wrote: > On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:53:45 +0000 > "-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" wrote: > > > re hi... > > > > just have one more little problem... > > > > in the footnote at the end of this page: > > http://www.gnu.org/soft > > ware/guix/manual/html_node/Build-Environment-Setup.html > > > > "If your machine uses the systemd init system, dropping the > > prefix/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service file in /etc/systemd/syst= em > > will ensure that guix-daemon is automatically started." > > > > i did this: > > ln -s /root/.guix-profile/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service > > /etc/systemd/ > > you're missing the last system, the symlink goes in /etc/systemd/system/ > > > ... but it does no start at boot... > > > > i'am able to start/stop it with: > > > > systemctl start guix-daemon > > systemctl stop guix-daemon > > > > ... but not enable it... :( > > > > systemctl enable guix-daemon > > > > says: "Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory" > > > > i'm still used to the old init.d scheme and not acquainted with the new > > one... how can i easily solve this? > > Delete the old symlink and make a new one :) > > -- > Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7= =9D =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 > GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 > Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypt= ed > --001a1143313086cda705234e04c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
... sorry, my bad at writing = last email... i do have the symlink at=C2=A0/etc/systemd/system/ ... otherw= ise would not work for start/stop (i presume)... only `enable' does not= .

= ... so it presists.

[]r.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Efraim Flashner <ef= raim@flashner.co.il> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:53:45 +0000
"-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" <rui.damas@gmail.com> wrote:

> re hi...
>
> just have one more little problem...
>
> in the footnote at the end of this page:
> http://www.gnu.org/soft
> ware/guix/manual/html_node/Build-Environment-Setup.html
>
> "If your machine uses the systemd init system, dropping the
> prefix/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service file in /etc/systemd/sys= tem
> will ensure that guix-daemon is automatically started."
>
> i did this:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0ln -s /root/.guix-profile/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.s= ervice
> /etc/systemd/

you're missing the last system, the symlink goes in /etc/systemd= /system/

> ... but it does no start at boot...
>
> i'am able to start/stop it with:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0systemctl start guix-daemon
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0systemctl stop guix-daemon
>
> ... but not enable it... :(
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0systemctl enable guix-daemon
>
> says: "Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory&quo= t;
>
> i'm still used to the old init.d scheme and not acquainted with th= e new
> one... how can i easily solve this?

Delete the old symlink and make a new one :)

--
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GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D=C2=A0 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351
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--001a1143313086cda705234e04c1-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 30 11:46:06 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Oct 2015 15:46:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46362 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsBsT-0000WZ-Im for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:46:06 -0400 Received: from mail-vk0-f54.google.com ([209.85.213.54]:34311) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsBs9-0000Vm-Az for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:46:04 -0400 Received: by vkgs66 with SMTP id s66so49835816vkg.1 for <21784@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 08:45:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=CdYyaF0nf4Xt/QQirR1q6cRRfkFzM4TS3JnpHu0FAGY=; b=nfMy/daiFdQJ6dEvurjZEQo9xYUte2x4d/VRhRJFesE7A0UFKTL+Ib0gpP1UaJHnkw Njbhst+th80yWkkx8U/K9wxp0MDNJ7YHDJZF0RNGrPnjWweUVN/Lrq+vPgYcUOzbUlnO yCcvJks04ZA6nyvvRZi5S7vPiin1OfrtJohD2yvM/RxSBDXi0dKL2Mm83KX7Sd/etbKc 4j0mA3v9LybxKMdqyuq6eG4XYCeNL8c+bZAxZsS8h6AEUTtM2aAweixve+SbhceZc0IJ nLbCyQU03BFnKZE4kA8ae/5Y5DnB/5us7qr6RX7I9BBfbewPTbfQ9QQl89pv6VnrMwcq +t+Q== X-Received: by 10.31.179.194 with SMTP id c185mr5837253vkf.68.1446219944715; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 08:45:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.167.12 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 08:45:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> <20151030100213.100389af@debian-netbook> From: "-=}\\*/{=-" Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 15:45:24 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! To: Efraim Flashner Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1143ac6212858605235452b0 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784 <21784@debbugs.gnu.org>, =?UTF-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= , Andreas Enge X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --001a1143ac6212858605235452b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... and solved :D made a copy instead of link... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1419318 [ty all]r. On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:14 AM, -=3D}\*/{=3D- wrote: > ... sorry, my bad at writing last email... i do have the symlink > at /etc/systemd/system/ ... otherwise would not work for start/stop (i > presume)... only `enable' does not. > > ... so it presists. > > []r. > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Efraim Flashner > wrote: > >> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:53:45 +0000 >> "-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" wrote: >> >> > re hi... >> > >> > just have one more little problem... >> > >> > in the footnote at the end of this page: >> > http://www.gnu.org/soft >> > ware/guix/manual/html_node/Build-Environment-Setup.html >> > >> > "If your machine uses the systemd init system, dropping the >> > prefix/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service file in >> /etc/systemd/system >> > will ensure that guix-daemon is automatically started." >> > >> > i did this: >> > ln -s /root/.guix-profile/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service >> > /etc/systemd/ >> >> you're missing the last system, the symlink goes in /etc/systemd/system/ >> >> > ... but it does no start at boot... >> > >> > i'am able to start/stop it with: >> > >> > systemctl start guix-daemon >> > systemctl stop guix-daemon >> > >> > ... but not enable it... :( >> > >> > systemctl enable guix-daemon >> > >> > says: "Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory" >> > >> > i'm still used to the old init.d scheme and not acquainted with the ne= w >> > one... how can i easily solve this? >> >> Delete the old symlink and make a new one :) >> >> -- >> Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7= =9D =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 >> GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 >> Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received >> unencrypted >> > > --001a1143ac6212858605235452b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
... and solved :D

made a copy instead of link..= .

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1419318

[ty all]r.<= /font>

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:14 AM, -=3D}\*/{=3D- <rui.damas@gmail.com= > wrote:
... sorry, my bad at writing last email... i do hav= e the symlink at=C2=A0/etc/systemd/system/ ... otherwise would not work for= start/stop (i presume)... only `enable' does not.

... so it presists.

[]r.=

On Fr= i, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 = 07:53:45 +0000
"-=3D}\\*/{=3D-" <rui.damas@gmail.com> wrote:

> re hi...
>
> just have one more little problem...
>
> in the footnote at the end of this page:
> http://www.gnu.org/soft
> ware/guix/manual/html_node/Build-Environment-Setup.html
>
> "If your machine uses the systemd init system, dropping the
> prefix/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.service file in /etc/systemd/sys= tem
> will ensure that guix-daemon is automatically started."
>
> i did this:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0ln -s /root/.guix-profile/lib/systemd/system/guix-daemon.s= ervice
> /etc/systemd/

you're missing the last system, the symlink goes in /etc/systemd= /system/

> ... but it does no start at boot...
>
> i'am able to start/stop it with:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0systemctl start guix-daemon
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0systemctl stop guix-daemon
>
> ... but not enable it... :(
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0systemctl enable guix-daemon
>
> says: "Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory&quo= t;
>
> i'm still used to the old init.d scheme and not acquainted with th= e new
> one... how can i easily solve this?

Delete the old symlink and make a new one :)<= font color=3D"#888888">

--
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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) merge 21788 21784 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 30 13:06:55 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Oct 2015 17:06:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46437 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsD8h-00047r-BC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:06:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40603) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsD8M-00047N-DX for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:06:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsD8I-0004aK-F0 for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:06:34 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52728) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsD8I-0004aG-CH; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:06:30 -0400 Received: from pluto.bordeaux.inria.fr ([193.50.110.57]:47268 helo=pluto) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsD8H-0000W4-0c; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:06:29 -0400 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Efraim Flashner Subject: Alternate xz-5.0.4.tar.gz URL References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> <20151029215102.384751ae@debian-netbook> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 18:06:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20151029215102.384751ae@debian-netbook> (Efraim Flashner's message of "Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:51:02 +0200") Message-ID: <87vb9ocmlp.fsf_-_@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Efraim Flashner skribis: > It turns out that hydra, the automated build server for guix, has a copy = of > xz that you can download if you authorize hydra to provide substitutions. > With a copy of hydra.gnu.org.pub, the command is `sudo guix archive > --authorize hydra.gnu.org.pub`. After that, instead of building everything > locally, your computer will first check to see if hydra has already built= a > package and you can just download it. Since we must have an additional URL to fetch it. I looked for mirrors on the Web for this tarball and couldn=E2=80=99t find = one (fossies.org doesn=E2=80=99t have it, for instance.) Then I wanted to upload it to ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/guix/mirror, but that is rejected: file rejected: xz-5.0.4.tar.gz contains a vulnerable Makefile.in CVE-2012-3386 Regenerate it with automake 1.11.6 / 1.12.2 or newer. So we need another solution. Any suggestions? Like mirror URLs I might have missed? TIA, Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 30 13:12:19 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Oct 2015 17:12:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46445 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsDDu-0004GL-Tl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:12:19 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.13]:63154) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsDDt-0004GD-0V for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:12:17 -0400 Received: from debian ([89.158.173.241]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lxwsm-1aWooL1KJI-015FGC; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 18:12:13 +0100 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 18:12:11 +0100 From: Andreas Enge To: Ludovic =?iso-8859-15?Q?Court=E8s?= Subject: Re: bug#21784: Alternate xz-5.0.4.tar.gz URL Message-ID: <20151030171211.GA23532@debian> References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> <20151029215102.384751ae@debian-netbook> <87vb9ocmlp.fsf_-_@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87vb9ocmlp.fsf_-_@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:0BdGr2GRTIeEZs+OiOmqKp64VHGgpai/R7K2n8vkni/5DnG+DVg o2MDKakzvMAL0y2Hxhp2ZPJQsHbrFNjaNEG69Hxc9SDWA0RFxhLNcKMZI7auoa3kAXSUjgg hule4PaF1Kn8TmO1t0CSeoYhxJpDmLBSxnvcl/DUANi8sgnvDPB38U4lgxaUcx9i/U8V96V uSAS0VDvEztZnw5fLX2+g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:JabkSSov8EY=:rz/rW3dX9/xI3RX/l/I4CF Ia5Ls4pKSgj4nY2ijh9uBqEjfBWTZvJ1CLwhOhL5vEEgo1r/FMYe1r4ojg7UTwX8fwl6X9ai4 /GE+ckKIZvXFpIG1MZP3j2t1iLdB5YKAFzvGe0+F9+imwETXFhTubjahBNqVWRh0DwDdd4DGD hbhOO1464Cyo7QqyCVf6ijf+ePpC3qX0u+cg1ax5p99tPMbRt+O+LnHLu7JkzHMuLsChT9MP4 /A8uGN/u2+tCnOFJAQiHofbkWfVSWY0zOUBktvA1A7lo4pmadopLw7bz24nd8FSGdpb2sU8gD lHYpNAC6yrHzzBrilBm81tJgICqtLiWAoXg16XYOMiV9MWSLbcOYgtaOj8GQCsgkQLVgjM4Wg FzgnlOE3qRCipcIzuDMtEFCCSUW5kfwEE/PRB1IHR2Qy23UUpOrnfZPcXB7filRciNQftyx+C TymeVvMtUlrpu7kpphfPnkAntG+k5bZtnki93wx0cpgKK2V6F0AQutunXPGkWpjRjsEqVnuel PPJJUq+ZXS7q2smaA9g09ZSyrjR1OvnFANUpYXUL/bqVWE3Bd0RKsbIyOztH6MTpMxhS1wMff hqgkNOM/TnMPXBWDOg3XNqF7csz1l4gyGe9Gy03eDCSO9ta4Nur3YC3cnxuekwkUGyup57T1x V3OKjDPkQ5zWyFtySaWZBMtEATc377MSfZAs9mCrGC29Kg4maG/naUTY/hoR2a/G+sOc= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org, Efraim Flashner X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 06:06:26PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > So we need another solution. Any suggestions? I would not mind hosting it on enge.fr, but this is of course less reliable than "real" hosting, since the machine is in my living room. Alternatively, I could host it with a commercial hoster at multiprecision.org. Andreas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 30 13:49:12 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Oct 2015 17:49:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46462 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsDnc-0006o0-Es for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:49:12 -0400 Received: from mailscanner02.zoner.fi ([84.34.166.11]:28784) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsDnH-0006nB-A9 for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 13:49:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 19:47:30 +0200 From: Lasse Collin To: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?B?Q291cnTDqHM=?=) Subject: Re: bug#21784: cannot install icecat! Message-ID: <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> In-Reply-To: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Received-SPF: none X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: "-=}\\*/{=-" , 21784@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On 2015-10-29 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > "-=3D}\*/{=3D-" skribis: >=20 > > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 > > "Forbidden" >=20 > This seems to be an issue at tukaani.org since this URL is still > listed at . >=20 > Lasse: Could it be that the permissions for old tarballs were > inadvertently changed? As documented at the beginning of the page you linked, it's intentional but (possibly) temporary. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. For some reason the old XZ Utils versions are more popular downloads than the latest versions (5.0.8 and 5.2.2). Perhaps I should move the downloads somewhere else to avoid bandwidth quota issues, but on the other hand I feel that it's not nice if source-based distributions rely on upstream servers instead of providing their own distro-specific mirrors. If you think this isn't a reasonable wish, feel free to say so. By the way, is there a reason why you use 5.0.4 instead of 5.0.8 (or even 5.2.2)? I know that the point of many stable distributions is that packages don't get upgraded without a good reason, but with XZ Utils a stable branch gets fixes without new features. I hope this makes it easier for downstream distributions to make bug fixes available for users (backporting gets done by the upstream). --=20 Lasse Collin | IRC: Larhzu @ IRCnet & Freenode From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 30 15:58:36 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Oct 2015 19:58:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46528 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsFoq-0001av-BH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 15:58:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53535) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsFoo-0001al-7C for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 15:58:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsFoj-0008QI-Oi for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 15:58:33 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55084) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsFoj-0008QE-Lm; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 15:58:29 -0400 Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr ([80.67.176.83]:47834 helo=pluto) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsFoj-0000km-5v; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 15:58:29 -0400 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Lasse Collin Subject: Old XZ tarballs References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 9 Brumaire an 224 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x3D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 20:58:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> (Lasse Collin's message of "Fri, 30 Oct 2015 19:47:30 +0200") Message-ID: <87si4sb02k.fsf_-_@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Hi, Lasse Collin skribis: > On 2015-10-29 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> "-=3D}\*/{=3D-" skribis: >>=20 >> > ERROR: download failed "http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-5.0.4.tar.gz" 403 >> > "Forbidden" >>=20 >> This seems to be an issue at tukaani.org since this URL is still >> listed at . >>=20 >> Lasse: Could it be that the permissions for old tarballs were >> inadvertently changed? > > As documented at the beginning of the page you linked, it's intentional > but (possibly) temporary. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. Sorry, I had overlooked that. > For some reason the old XZ Utils versions are more popular downloads > than the latest versions (5.0.8 and 5.2.2). Perhaps I should move the > downloads somewhere else to avoid bandwidth quota issues, Some people move old tarballs to an old/ sub-directory, to make sure people do not mistakenly take an old version. I don=E2=80=99t know if that would help here? > but on the other hand I feel that it's not nice if source-based > distributions rely on upstream servers instead of providing their own > distro-specific mirrors. If you think this isn't a reasonable wish, > feel free to say so. Guix does automatically mirror tarballs via its =E2=80=9Csubstitute=E2=80= =9D mechanism. However, users can turn it off, in which case they end up downloading the tarball from the upstream URL specified in the package recipe. > By the way, is there a reason why you use 5.0.4 instead of 5.0.8 (or > even 5.2.2)? No good reason! We=E2=80=99ll upgrade it as soon as this can be done witho= ut triggering too much rebuild/redownloads for users. Thank you, Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 31 06:41:50 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Oct 2015 10:41:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46738 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsTba-0005sP-6A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 06:41:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58368) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsTbY-0005sH-Nd for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 06:41:48 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsTbX-0004ZB-Vb for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 06:41:48 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38386) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsTbT-0004Yd-GO; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 06:41:43 -0400 Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr ([80.67.176.83]:46914 helo=pluto) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsTbS-0004Xv-Sv; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 06:41:43 -0400 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Andreas Enge Subject: Re: bug#21784: Alternate xz-5.0.4.tar.gz URL References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> <20151029215102.384751ae@debian-netbook> <87vb9ocmlp.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151030171211.GA23532@debian> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:41:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20151030171211.GA23532@debian> (Andreas Enge's message of "Fri, 30 Oct 2015 18:12:11 +0100") Message-ID: <87ziyz8gm2.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org, Efraim Flashner X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Andreas Enge skribis: > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 06:06:26PM +0100, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> So we need another solution. Any suggestions?=20 > > I would not mind hosting it on enge.fr, but this is of course less reliab= le > than "real" hosting, since the machine is in my living room. Alternativel= y, > I could host it with a commercial hoster at multiprecision.org. Could you put a copy at multiprecision.org? That would be great. Thanks! Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 31 14:30:33 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Oct 2015 18:30:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47318 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsavB-0003nN-02 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 14:30:33 -0400 Received: from mailscanner02.zoner.fi ([84.34.166.11]:15797) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsav8-0003nC-82 for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 14:30:31 -0400 Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 20:29:08 +0200 From: Lasse Collin To: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?B?Q291cnTDqHM=?=) Subject: Re: Old XZ tarballs Message-ID: <20151031202908.5548817d@tukaani.org> In-Reply-To: <87si4sb02k.fsf_-_@gnu.org> References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> <87si4sb02k.fsf_-_@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Received-SPF: none X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On 2015-10-30 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > Lasse Collin skribis: > > For some reason the old XZ Utils versions are more popular downloads > > than the latest versions (5.0.8 and 5.2.2). Perhaps I should move > > the downloads somewhere else to avoid bandwidth quota issues, >=20 > Some people move old tarballs to an old/ sub-directory, to make sure > people do not mistakenly take an old version. I don=E2=80=99t know if th= at > would help here? I don't like to break links intentionally. I know I did exactly that a few days ago, but it cannot be the long-term solution. The links to old versions are on a separate page already, so those using a web browser are unlikely to get an old version by accident. > > but on the other hand I feel that it's not nice if source-based > > distributions rely on upstream servers instead of providing their > > own distro-specific mirrors. If you think this isn't a reasonable > > wish, feel free to say so. >=20 > Guix does automatically mirror tarballs via its =E2=80=9Csubstitute=E2=80= =9D > mechanism. However, users can turn it off, in which case they end up > downloading the tarball from the upstream URL specified in the > package recipe. OK. :-) Why would users turn it off though? I would guess that one good mirror would be more reliable than dozens of upstream sites of which just one needs to be down to be a problem for a user. A package manager should know the hash or signature of the file, so from security point of view it doesn't matter where the file comes. Note that I have nothing against including the upstream URL in the build scripts. I just wish that it doesn't cause a *large* number of users downloading the file from the upstream instead of distro's mirror. To be fair, xz-5.0.4.tar.gz hasn't been a popular download (xz-5.0.4.tar.bz2 is somewhat popular though), so I believe Guix users haven't caused a significant amount of traffic for me. :-) > > By the way, is there a reason why you use 5.0.4 instead of 5.0.8 (or > > even 5.2.2)? >=20 > No good reason! We=E2=80=99ll upgrade it as soon as this can be done wit= hout > triggering too much rebuild/redownloads for users. API/ABI is backward compatible so one shouldn't need to rebuild other packages. There's a mailing list "xz-announce" in case you want a notification when a new version is released: --=20 Lasse Collin | IRC: Larhzu @ IRCnet & Freenode From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 31 17:21:04 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Oct 2015 21:21:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47339 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsdaC-0007nm-IW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:21:04 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.13]:57027) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsdZs-0007mp-9r for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:21:02 -0400 Received: from debian ([89.158.173.241]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LfAVs-1aGvhn0bLE-00oogT; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 22:20:39 +0100 Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 22:20:32 +0100 From: Andreas Enge To: Ludovic =?iso-8859-15?Q?Court=E8s?= Subject: Re: bug#21784: Alternate xz-5.0.4.tar.gz URL Message-ID: <20151031212032.GA11664@debian> References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> <20151029215102.384751ae@debian-netbook> <87vb9ocmlp.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151030171211.GA23532@debian> <87ziyz8gm2.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87ziyz8gm2.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:hqkd9xK7ufuLDHYL9f/JkyFJcdJFYsMpjlhRrGEDoYfj38DiR+T +srCY7IihqOCs8aO8JNluEhVOnQngJng9Qr3O345ZivGLvJkDLgD+4CyOP1+LiIqsgEN5SZ zqLhpzgbbcYZYGcxlArGPbN4K45dAeHmivAiANjb16letcdL3zS3fn/Y/1h/wSvdda+L5u/ b3oCdAJIOhhxWuT9jL0wQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:oRnN7KlWBXs=:aaGB6LA6Sfp5zsWhAIATJ5 3KErVn53CCTzJL28eBtfhc2XQQ/j+EdV5LMHEJz09KycVtmbO05FwHVGLCY+sHzE1DLYnG0QZ REhfG0nEewiyatV0NMSeJucJLybO5Isbh3Rn7gx2xZS3a/b9WPXzmpsM88q7jvgFUrh9gpKR/ uLDq/OyiUxTH6wshPs37O8m0YSWjinXVHNOlIFFELhfqdIqoSrT0TKOGNaogzcW4OBD90+riE wn4fT+cvh91CKg+LmqOWw3VU45HfkJXJ4Y02N9guQISOKYCO655NRlcqunmyS1Y50bCydIx9b yQrsDPxDF4oM38fD0ESoJqLyCJ7dpr9SiEr7X5Lzc980XwNFyfMbxKHyugv2E9DZExHuzSSM2 94XhQZZqQcQyAsd/nfHqCxBvvwXz+YufYPMi5vp207XIh6HBm9om3zCX/M1E/QZX7WhIlE3eh qPsoWjd2SePO8gTFZwpLx4Vxt6jJspmz5a/ZBkIYV/DlaCIIzGISkkwVw3zeEjsjrig92/YkR DAoLvto8h5gsGPfa0fOs4MGlM+PpZAdBmqkJJqS1MYw1CVljRjLNGEpxJW1s32kPFr0VpOxYA 8BGAVhYPExlbppbvHqpHNoth/k8iJfSmgt9hnqUsW7Z1hKUPDU2iduAGjlTsOu9DbkwKq9pY5 k9dPJ/RnI+u5N4Yc4hufxPE/Yisu6ieQaHq7V+4anWz4jJZKyyJxQ5c2oszNm+RYDc40= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org, Efraim Flashner X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 11:41:41AM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Could you put a copy at multiprecision.org? That would be great. Is that it? The result of "guix build xz -S" copied over: http://www.multiprecision.org/guix/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz-5.0.4.tar.gz Andreas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 01 05:20:34 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2015 10:20:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47503 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZspkX-0001TE-L8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:20:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51613) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZspkD-0001So-S7 for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:20:32 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZspkA-00071s-Ig for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:20:13 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52833) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZspkA-00071o-GM; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:20:10 -0500 Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr ([80.67.176.83]:57296 helo=pluto) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zspk9-0007Pp-4w; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:20:09 -0500 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Lasse Collin Subject: Re: Old XZ tarballs References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> <87si4sb02k.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151031202908.5548817d@tukaani.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 11 Brumaire an 224 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x3D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2015 11:20:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20151031202908.5548817d@tukaani.org> (Lasse Collin's message of "Sat, 31 Oct 2015 20:29:08 +0200") Message-ID: <87y4ei58dk.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Lasse Collin skribis: > On 2015-10-30 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: [...] >> Guix does automatically mirror tarballs via its =E2=80=9Csubstitute=E2= =80=9D >> mechanism. However, users can turn it off, in which case they end up >> downloading the tarball from the upstream URL specified in the >> package recipe. > > OK. :-) Why would users turn it off though? The substitute mechanism is very generic; it=E2=80=99s not just about mirro= ring tarballs: http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html Some people might prefer to build things locally rather than download pre-built items. > I would guess that one good mirror would be more reliable than dozens > of upstream sites of which just one needs to be down to be a problem > for a user. A package manager should know the hash or signature of the > file, so from security point of view it doesn't matter where the file > comes. Yes exactly, all we need is to mirror it somewhere. >> > By the way, is there a reason why you use 5.0.4 instead of 5.0.8 (or >> > even 5.2.2)? >>=20 >> No good reason! We=E2=80=99ll upgrade it as soon as this can be done wi= thout >> triggering too much rebuild/redownloads for users. > > API/ABI is backward compatible so one shouldn't need to rebuild other > packages. There's a mailing list "xz-announce" in case you want a > notification when a new version is released: > Noted, thanks! Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 01 05:21:11 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2015 10:21:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47507 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zspl9-0001Ug-Ap for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:21:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51724) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zspl6-0001UY-Sz for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:21:09 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zspl5-00075c-V5 for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:21:08 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52837) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zspl0-00074Z-RM; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:21:02 -0500 Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr ([80.67.176.83]:57326 helo=pluto) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zspky-0007gC-TQ; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 05:21:01 -0500 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Andreas Enge Subject: Re: bug#21784: Alternate xz-5.0.4.tar.gz URL References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> <20151029215102.384751ae@debian-netbook> <87vb9ocmlp.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151030171211.GA23532@debian> <87ziyz8gm2.fsf@gnu.org> <20151031212032.GA11664@debian> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 11 Brumaire an 224 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x3D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2015 11:20:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20151031212032.GA11664@debian> (Andreas Enge's message of "Sat, 31 Oct 2015 22:20:32 +0100") Message-ID: <87twp658c4.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org, Efraim Flashner X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Andreas Enge skribis: > On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 11:41:41AM +0100, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> Could you put a copy at multiprecision.org? That would be great. > > Is that it? The result of "guix build xz -S" copied over: > http://www.multiprecision.org/guix/0d7xnp3nji2mi4cw4jmd3mzbpija9a5a-xz= -5.0.4.tar.gz Cool. Could you rename it to =E2=80=98xz-5.0.4.tar.gz=E2=80=99? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 01 07:06:17 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2015 12:06:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47535 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsrOr-000412-8q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 07:06:17 -0500 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.131]:51302) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsrOp-00040t-CX for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 07:06:15 -0500 Received: from debian ([80.12.35.55]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LfKSP-1aHX5z1vmz-00p4jP; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 13:06:14 +0100 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 13:06:11 +0100 From: Andreas Enge To: Ludovic =?iso-8859-15?Q?Court=E8s?= Subject: Re: bug#21784: Alternate xz-5.0.4.tar.gz URL Message-ID: <20151101120611.GB3493@debian> References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> <20151029215102.384751ae@debian-netbook> <87vb9ocmlp.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151030171211.GA23532@debian> <87ziyz8gm2.fsf@gnu.org> <20151031212032.GA11664@debian> <87twp658c4.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87twp658c4.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:B+d5kzFbjtCWXIQgNNJ79lIP6rkeQnrnOxTCIGN5jSDRKfWewLk 7ZSchcIvOKEaWLN7BtdFj1ki94GiFrAc9ftrG16xg6x9SjktOuvyk6OhQS2Os4SmdMVdzmB A3/FYoKUUlQmC0Sa5ODTTgAw5X/3aV8ZBGpQXePQCZ6+dkNeOMR1Zp2I940ZutRhZbzexKO WEOToSgSSGyYFeSHBqxoQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:era8cwNpbRY=:MYoXq3Yn6RwpU63Sx5r2YB TSEXgLiIGJGKp3jpBM1oKioZYfiejcYTQo4WI6T+eBJ+u9+7iRIDlhebrV/Aw53PmB7RisVLp 7NFQR6zU9TLvg7COmD+MO1ABOqYC201MDMiyNA7OAqXXSWSw6U7FW613ye4Q5S4o532Dm7H5l F5L5/g+UgFaHFao6R1rNtaVXayX9sIZSBCZeOzLC9TqNh6C+fNfeHxCX9GyQG/2XAEr0MP+Gd F9woJ6GeBI/xj25ECB8bi7aU4GjBmA8hc8VyNuyFBSqeV1M7jwfk7Yrdf+2C5y5brYsskGabP aEudRRvZro/lEbV29GJ1pV4Xp06uHhKofxUWucU1yYmzKZsVfg35qII8AJPiFmtMifV9weMqn Puc8XAcGcnAzxXC7V6JsSKipAtTUmYB5ykrNs8Po5uNlBiCyPa530Mdt2ZLEKCdkn2VWEiaxV QJsIyFUb/hFRfxq06JiiKi+oFc+UIWAOo9Txq1bxHxvmenT0Q1/tVkZVsYZVW+/1oTW/qcPdz RP+clekD5V6Xf208ppqt5qsTK3rOzcdlW7uHWYN1oyNB3iIRgpL3ONbLsUtMVRPFgpexTdlgq JLty9E3O/YH+0nWfQ/vdTjF4wby2r1yeEO4VcnasAS8+suT/IImdTv/fW4RbpRN/H+CvDJVCA CFiM2R+OhqPQGO7rm2oGuV1pE4XjFBlEcJQB1vlf9oYKe6aR2ecQlJx/q6fz5ZE2t9tDY/Avx hsYQK65LX+Eiczuk X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org, Efraim Flashner X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Sun, Nov 01, 2015 at 11:20:59AM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Cool. Could you rename it to ‘xz-5.0.4.tar.gz’? Done! Andreas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 01 15:06:16 2015 Received: (at 21784-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2015 20:06:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48117 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsytM-0004mJ-Gy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 15:06:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51782) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsyt2-0004la-0I for 21784-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 15:06:14 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsyt1-0008RK-3j for 21784-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 15:05:55 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57322) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsysw-0008Qh-87; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 15:05:50 -0500 Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr ([80.67.176.83]:54896 helo=pluto) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zsysv-0000ZD-CR; Sun, 01 Nov 2015 15:05:49 -0500 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Andreas Enge Subject: Re: bug#21784: Alternate xz-5.0.4.tar.gz URL References: <20151029212019.6f59107f@debian-netbook> <20151029215102.384751ae@debian-netbook> <87vb9ocmlp.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151030171211.GA23532@debian> <87ziyz8gm2.fsf@gnu.org> <20151031212032.GA11664@debian> <87twp658c4.fsf@gnu.org> <20151101120611.GB3493@debian> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 11 Brumaire an 224 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x3D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2015 21:05:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20151101120611.GB3493@debian> (Andreas Enge's message of "Sun, 1 Nov 2015 13:06:11 +0100") Message-ID: <87fv0p1o4k.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784-done Cc: 21784-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Efraim Flashner X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Andreas Enge skribis: > On Sun, Nov 01, 2015 at 11:20:59AM +0100, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> Cool. Could you rename it to =E2=80=98xz-5.0.4.tar.gz=E2=80=99? > > Done! I=E2=80=99m adding it as an alternate URL in (gnu packages compression). Thank you! Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 02 07:08:51 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Nov 2015 12:08:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48564 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtDut-0007sg-7q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 07:08:51 -0500 Received: from mailscanner02.zoner.fi ([84.34.166.11]:64578) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtDup-0007sT-Ts for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 07:08:48 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:07:18 +0200 From: Lasse Collin To: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?B?Q291cnTDqHM=?=) Subject: Re: Old XZ tarballs Message-ID: <20151102140718.4414a8d7@tukaani.org> In-Reply-To: <87y4ei58dk.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> <87si4sb02k.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151031202908.5548817d@tukaani.org> <87y4ei58dk.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Received-SPF: none X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On 2015-11-01 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > Lasse Collin skribis: >=20 > > On 2015-10-30 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >=20 > [...] >=20 > >> Guix does automatically mirror tarballs via its =E2=80=9Csubstitute=E2= =80=9D > >> mechanism. However, users can turn it off, in which case they end > >> up downloading the tarball from the upstream URL specified in the > >> package recipe. > > > > OK. :-) Why would users turn it off though? >=20 > The substitute mechanism is very generic; it=E2=80=99s not just about > mirroring tarballs: >=20 > http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html >=20 > Some people might prefer to build things locally rather than download > pre-built items. That makes sense, but I don't understand how it implies that the source packages will then be downloaded from upstream servers. Since you are distributing binary packages, I assume you are also distributing the matching source packages due to many packages being under the GNU (L)GPL. My understanding is that the GNU GPL requires that if you distribute the binary, you must take care of making the source code available too. Anyway, I'm sorry for the hassle and for perhaps making a mountain out of a molehill. Based on the number of xz-5.0.4.tar.gz downloads, Guix users didn't create much traffic for me. You just happened to get affected when I was trying to find out what distros where causing most of the traffic. --=20 Lasse Collin | IRC: Larhzu @ IRCnet & Freenode From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 02 08:38:27 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Nov 2015 13:38:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48613 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtFJa-0003Nx-S9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:38:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48565) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtFJG-0003NM-R2 for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:38:25 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtFJB-00064V-17 for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:38:05 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39738) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtFJA-00064Q-Ug; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:38:00 -0500 Received: from pluto.bordeaux.inria.fr ([193.50.110.57]:60262 helo=pluto) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtFJA-0003Gx-D5; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:38:00 -0500 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Lasse Collin Subject: Re: Old XZ tarballs References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> <87si4sb02k.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151031202908.5548817d@tukaani.org> <87y4ei58dk.fsf@gnu.org> <20151102140718.4414a8d7@tukaani.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 12 Brumaire an 224 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x3D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2015 14:37:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20151102140718.4414a8d7@tukaani.org> (Lasse Collin's message of "Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:07:18 +0200") Message-ID: <87r3k8jzd7.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Lasse Collin skribis: > On 2015-11-01 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> Lasse Collin skribis: >>=20 >> > On 2015-10-30 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >>=20 >> [...] >>=20 >> >> Guix does automatically mirror tarballs via its =E2=80=9Csubstitute= =E2=80=9D >> >> mechanism. However, users can turn it off, in which case they end >> >> up downloading the tarball from the upstream URL specified in the >> >> package recipe. >> > >> > OK. :-) Why would users turn it off though? >>=20 >> The substitute mechanism is very generic; it=E2=80=99s not just about >> mirroring tarballs: >>=20 >> http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Substitutes.html >>=20 >> Some people might prefer to build things locally rather than download >> pre-built items. > > That makes sense, but I don't understand how it implies that the source > packages will then be downloaded from upstream servers. It might sound counter-intuitive, but our server at gnu.org provides substitutes for =E2=80=9Cthings=E2=80=9D users could do locally; these =E2= =80=9Cthings=E2=80=9D include building software, and downloading source. Quoting the above page: Substitutes can be anything resulting from a derivation build (see Derivations). Of course, in the common case, they are pre-built package binaries, but source tarballs, for instance, which also result from derivation builds, can be available as substitutes. > Anyway, I'm sorry for the hassle and for perhaps making a mountain out > of a molehill. No problem. It is best if URLs remain stable over time, but I understand there are cost constraints related to hosting. Maybe an option for you in the longer term would be to use a service such as savannah.gnu.org, which could host tarballs virtually forever and which is mirrored. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 02 09:25:55 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Nov 2015 14:25:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48644 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtG3X-0004et-7u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 09:25:55 -0500 Received: from mailscanner02.zoner.fi ([84.34.166.11]:43162) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtG3T-0004ei-D0 for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 09:25:52 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 16:24:27 +0200 From: Lasse Collin To: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?B?Q291cnTDqHM=?=) Subject: Re: Old XZ tarballs Message-ID: <20151102162427.0be85ee5@tukaani.org> In-Reply-To: <87r3k8jzd7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> <87si4sb02k.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151031202908.5548817d@tukaani.org> <87y4ei58dk.fsf@gnu.org> <20151102140718.4414a8d7@tukaani.org> <87r3k8jzd7.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Received-SPF: none X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On 2015-11-02 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > No problem. It is best if URLs remain stable over time, but I > understand there are cost constraints related to hosting. >=20 > Maybe an option for you in the longer term would be to use a service > such as savannah.gnu.org, which could host tarballs virtually forever > and which is mirrored. Maybe, I had already thought about that some time ago. On the other hand I have felt that it's weird if upstreams should do such things solely because package managers in some source-based distros use upstreams as their primary source of packages (I don't count Guix into this category). Over half of my bandwidth quota is used for serving old xz versions and that somehow that doesn't feel right, but perhaps it's just me being weird. 5.0.4.tar.gz and .bz2 are up again on tukaani.org so at least Guix shouldn't have issues now because of me. Thanks! :-) --=20 Lasse Collin | IRC: Larhzu @ IRCnet & Freenode From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 02 10:07:21 2015 Received: (at 21784) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Nov 2015 15:07:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49829 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtGhc-0005xx-Ko for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 10:07:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42795) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtGhb-0005xp-AS for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 10:07:19 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtGhX-00007M-At for 21784@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 10:07:19 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40840) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtGhX-00007H-7C; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 10:07:15 -0500 Received: from pluto.bordeaux.inria.fr ([193.50.110.57]:38182 helo=pluto) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtGhW-0004Gq-Gu; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 10:07:14 -0500 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Lasse Collin Subject: Re: Old XZ tarballs References: <87r3kd8lpb.fsf@gnu.org> <20151030194730.4a2639ae@tukaani.org> <87si4sb02k.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <20151031202908.5548817d@tukaani.org> <87y4ei58dk.fsf@gnu.org> <20151102140718.4414a8d7@tukaani.org> <87r3k8jzd7.fsf@gnu.org> <20151102162427.0be85ee5@tukaani.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 12 Brumaire an 224 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x3D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2015 16:07:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20151102162427.0be85ee5@tukaani.org> (Lasse Collin's message of "Mon, 2 Nov 2015 16:24:27 +0200") Message-ID: <87io5kigo0.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21784 Cc: 21784@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Lasse Collin skribis: > On 2015-11-02 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> No problem. It is best if URLs remain stable over time, but I >> understand there are cost constraints related to hosting. >>=20 >> Maybe an option for you in the longer term would be to use a service >> such as savannah.gnu.org, which could host tarballs virtually forever >> and which is mirrored. > > Maybe, I had already thought about that some time ago. On the other > hand I have felt that it's weird if upstreams should do such things > solely because package managers in some source-based distros use > upstreams as their primary source of packages (I don't count Guix into > this category). Over half of my bandwidth quota is used for serving old > xz versions and that somehow that doesn't feel right, but perhaps it's > just me being weird. I agree that it=E2=80=99s weird that old tarballs get so much attention. In an ideal world, every distro and user would upgrade on the day of the new release, but it turns out to take much more time. Another way to look at it is to think of the web as an append-only place, similar to Git. If people want to access old tarballs for whatever reasons, it should be possible. Anyway, thanks again. :-) Ludo=E2=80=99. 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