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25.0.50; Saving *Help* results in bad encoding because of curly quotes

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From: help-debbugs <at> gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System)
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Subject: bug#21780: closed (Re: bug#21780: 25.0.50; Saving *Help* results
 in bad encoding because of curly quotes)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 17:42:02 +0000

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Your bug report

#21780: 25.0.50; Saving *Help* results in bad encoding because of curly quotes

which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed.

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 21780-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#21780: 25.0.50;
 Saving *Help* results in bad encoding because of curly quotes
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:41:38 +0200

> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 18:50:49 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
> 
> emacs -Q
> M-x load-library isearch.el
> C-h f isearch-forward
> In buffer *Help*: C-x C-w foo.txt
> 
> You get a coding-system warning.  I tried saving it as utf-8 and as raw
> text.
> 
> In both cases, when I open that file in a new Emacs session, I see octal
> escapes where there were curly quotes.

Thanks, I fixed the first part of this: Emacs should no longer ask
annoying questions when you save help buffers with curved quotes.

The second part, which happens when visiting the saved file, is not a
bug: you need to specify the encoding of files when visiting them in
locales whose default encoding is different.  (Actually, I expect this
to work automatically for you, at least in "emacs -Q", but that
doesn't happen in every locale.)

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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 25.0.50; Saving *Help* results in bad encoding because of curly quotes
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 18:50:49 -0700 (PDT)

emacs -Q
M-x load-library isearch.el
C-h f isearch-forward
In buffer *Help*: C-x C-w foo.txt

You get a coding-system warning.  I tried saving it as utf-8 and as raw
text.

In both cases, when I open that file in a new Emacs session, I see octal
escapes where there were curly quotes.

Why were there curly quotes?  Because `C-h f' produces curly quotes.

This is a regression - no such problem exists with Emacs 24.5 (or prior).

In order to produce a reasonable, readable file from the *Help* buffer
that I attached to the following mail message to emacs-devel <at> gnu.org,
I had to resort to using Emacs 24.5:

 "RE: Exposing Isearch toggleable options", 2015-10-28, ~21:20


(BTW, it is apparently *not* the case, in spite of what is stated at
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-10/index.html, that
the mailing list archive is updated every 30 minutes.  Far from it,
it seems.  That's why I didn't provide a URL to the emacs-devel post.
Got tired after 1/2 hour of waiting for it to show up.)

In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
 of 2015-10-09
Bzr revision: af45926d66d303fdc4c2c3ebbc820b4a54d9e4a0
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
Configured using:
 `configure --host=i686-pc-mingw32 --enable-checking=yes,glyphs'

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