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24.5; default printer page size can not be changed

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From: Emilio Sovero <easovero <at> me.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.5; default printer page size can not be changed
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 00:55:41 +0000 (GMT)

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On a Mac running OSX 10.10.5 I am unable to change Emacs to print any
other size but A4.
I have set the ps-page-size to letter
That page size letter is defined in the data base properly. But when I
print a buffer it sends a A4 page. No matter what I change it to it
always prints in A4 (which my printer hangs on).






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Emilio Sovero

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Message #8 received at 21741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Emilio Sovero <easovero <at> me.com>
Cc: 21741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#21741: 24.5; default printer page size can not be changed
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 00:00:57 -0400

Emilio Sovero wrote:

> On a Mac running OSX 10.10.5 I am unable to change Emacs to print any
> other size but A4.

That is odd, since Emacs is a USA-centric application and defaults to
letter paper size AFAIK.

> I have set the ps-page-size to letter

There is no "ps-page-size". There is ps-paper-type, defaulting to 'letter.

Anyway, please do:

emacs -Q
C-u M-x ps-print-buffer RET test.ps RET

and send the file test.ps here as an attachment. Thanks.

Message #11 received at 21741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Emilio Sovero <easovero <at> me.com>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 21741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#21741: 24.5; default printer page size can not be changed
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 21:44:16 -0700

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Yes I meant ps-page-type.
Here is the output you requested.
Thanks

[test.ps (application/postscript, attachment)]

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Emilio Sovero

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:00 PM, Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> wrote:
> 
> Emilio Sovero wrote:
> 
>> On a Mac running OSX 10.10.5 I am unable to change Emacs to print any
>> other size but A4.
> 
> That is odd, since Emacs is a USA-centric application and defaults to
> letter paper size AFAIK.
> 
>> I have set the ps-page-size to letter
> 
> There is no "ps-page-size". There is ps-paper-type, defaulting to 'letter.
> 
> Anyway, please do:
> 
> emacs -Q
> C-u M-x ps-print-buffer RET test.ps RET
> 
> and send the file test.ps here as an attachment. Thanks.

Message #14 received at 21741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Emilio Sovero <easovero <at> me.com>
Cc: 21741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#21741: 24.5; default printer page size can not be changed
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 00:51:17 -0400

Emilio Sovero wrote:

> Here is the output you requested.

Thanks. That PS seems in every way to be letter-sized, so I have no idea
why it prints as A4 for you.

Message #17 received at 21741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Emilio Sovero <easovero <at> me.com>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 21741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#21741: 24.5; default printer page size can not be changed
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 21:57:31 -0700

Glenn,
But if you read the test.ps file the margins are set for the A4 paper size. See the fragment below.

%%EndResource

/LandscapeMode       false def
/UpsideDown          false def
/NumberOfColumns     1 def
/LandscapePageHeight 792.0 def
/PrintPageWidth      498.6141732283465 def
/PrintWidth   498.6141732283465 def
/PrintHeight  643.7029732283465 def

Emilio

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> wrote:
> 
> Emilio Sovero wrote:
> 
>> Here is the output you requested.
> 
> Thanks. That PS seems in every way to be letter-sized, so I have no idea
> why it prints as A4 for you.

Message #20 received at 21741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Emilio Sovero <easovero <at> me.com>
Cc: 21741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#21741: 24.5; default printer page size can not be changed
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 13:05:32 -0400

Emilio Sovero wrote:

> But if you read the test.ps file the margins are set for the A4 paper
> size. See the fragment below.
>
> %%EndResource
>
> /LandscapeMode       false def
> /UpsideDown          false def
> /NumberOfColumns     1 def
> /LandscapePageHeight 792.0 def
> /PrintPageWidth      498.6141732283465 def
> /PrintWidth   498.6141732283465 def
> /PrintHeight  643.7029732283465 def


Which bit of this is supposed to be A4?

Message #23 received at 21741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Emilio Sovero <easovero <at> me.com>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 21741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#21741: 24.5; default printer page size can not be changed
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 17:29:18 +0000 (GMT)

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The 
/PrintPageWidth 498.6141732283465 def
Dimensions are in points.

I will dig into the Postscript code this week.
The problem for me is that at work we have a Large shared printer server that if the job asks for a paper size it does not have (A4), the only option the printer offers me is to load the missing paper size (which is not practical). There is not way (that I know) to override it and print on a letter sized paper.
At home I have two printers HP2605dn that has a similar message but allows me override the paper size, and a Brother MFC7860DW that prints without problem 

Thanks for the help. I hope I am not causing too much distraction for you.
Emilio

On Oct 23, 2015, at 10:05 AM, Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> wrote:

Emilio Sovero wrote:

But if you read the test.ps file the margins are set for the A4 paper
size. See the fragment below.

%%EndResource

/LandscapeMode false def
/UpsideDown false def
/NumberOfColumns 1 def
/LandscapePageHeight 792.0 def
/PrintPageWidth 498.6141732283465 def
/PrintWidth 498.6141732283465 def
/PrintHeight 643.7029732283465 def


Which bit of this is supposed to be A4?

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Message #26 received at 21741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Emilio Sovero <easovero <at> me.com>
Cc: 21741 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#21741: 24.5; default printer page size can not be changed
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 13:36:38 -0400

Emilio Sovero wrote:

> The 
>
>     /PrintPageWidth 498.6141732283465 def
>
> Dimensions are in points.

?
Letter page is 8.5 inches wide = 612 points.

ps-left-margin = ps-right-margin = 2cm = 56.7 points

612 - 2 * 56.7 = 498.6

So everything looks fine to me. (Surely the margins can't influence the
physical paper size anyway?)

gv tells me the resulting ps is letter-sized.
ps-print hasn't changed in time immemorial, AFAIK.

Message #31 received at 21741-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 21741-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Emilio Sovero <easovero <at> me.com>
Subject: Re: bug#21741: 24.5; default printer page size can not be changed
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 15:29:47 -0700

Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Emilio Sovero wrote:
>
>> The
>>
>>     /PrintPageWidth 498.6141732283465 def
>>
>> Dimensions are in points.
>
> ?
> Letter page is 8.5 inches wide = 612 points.
>
> ps-left-margin = ps-right-margin = 2cm = 56.7 points
>
> 612 - 2 * 56.7 = 498.6
>
> So everything looks fine to me. (Surely the margins can't influence the
> physical paper size anyway?)
>
> gv tells me the resulting ps is letter-sized.
> ps-print hasn't changed in time immemorial, AFAIK.

The last reply here has Glenn saying "everything looks fine to me", and
there have been no further replies within six years.  I'm therefore
closing this bug report.

If this conclusion is incorrect and this is still an issue, please reply
to this email (use "Reply to all" in your email client) and we can
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