From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:13:50 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#21709 <21709@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#21709 <21709@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 25.0.50; doc of :variable in `define-minor-mode' Reply-To: bug#21709 <21709@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:13:50 +0000 retitle 21709 25.0.50; doc of :variable in `define-minor-mode' reassign 21709 emacs submitter 21709 Drew Adams severity 21709 wishlist thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 19 11:15:10 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2015 15:15:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56879 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoC9W-0001er-62 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:15:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33311) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoC9T-0001eh-HG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:15:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoC9S-0003j3-GV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:15:07 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:43515) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoC9S-0003iy-EL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:15:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43306) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoC9R-0004JM-Gv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:15:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoC9O-0003ei-OT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:15:05 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:38938) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoC9O-0003eJ-IB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:15:02 -0400 Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t9JFF0Sb002940 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 15:15:01 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t9JFF0Uw009079 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 15:15:00 GMT Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t9JFEwnj016064 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 15:14:59 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <131df705-9c27-4cb5-940e-755ea2635031@default> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:14:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.0.50; doc of :variable in `define-minor-mode' X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) The doc is unclear - both the doc string and (elisp) `Defining Minor Modes'. Specifically, the part about PLACE being (GET . SET). PLACE can also be of the form (GET . SET), where GET is an expression that returns the current state, and SET is a function that takes one argument, the new state, and sets it. PLACE can also be a cons '(GET . SET)', where GET is an expression that returns the current state, and SET is a function of one argument (a state) that sets it. Surely the function does not "set" a "state". It might set the variable to a new value (but it does not "set" the value). What is the function argument? A "state"? What does that mean? State of what? What form does this "state" take? What does it do? My guess is that the doc should says something like this: The argument is the new variable value, which is assigned to PLACE. Presumably, "state" should be replaced by "value" everywhere, here. But that's just a guess. In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2015-10-09 Bzr revision: af45926d66d303fdc4c2c3ebbc820b4a54d9e4a0 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --host=3Di686-pc-mingw32 --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 19 13:05:19 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2015 17:05:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56983 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDs6-0007QL-T1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:05:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44700) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDs4-0007QD-Va for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:05:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDs1-0002de-5L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:05:16 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:53143) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDs1-0002da-1r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:05:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54680) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDs0-00013q-5x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:05:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDru-0002cD-HC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:05:12 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:42328) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDru-0002ag-Bo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:05:06 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoDrs-0004me-51 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:05:04 +0200 Received: from c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net ([68.39.146.59]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:05:04 +0200 Received: from random832 by c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 19:05:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Random832 Subject: Re: bug#21709: 25.0.50; doc of :variable in `define-minor-mode' Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:48:14 -0400 Lines: 11 Message-ID: <87si567qk1.fsf@fastmail.com> References: <131df705-9c27-4cb5-940e-755ea2635031@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:5WUSqsp/CNezULO+m6i80zt08eg= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) Drew Adams writes: > Surely the function does not "set" a "state". It might set the > variable to a new value (but it does not "set" the value). A state could be a single variable, it could be a dozen variables, it could be a file on the disk [which GET reads and SET writes] - the point is to have an abstraction that doesn't care what it is. Seems like what it really is is a "hackish" way to define a generalized variable without actually defining one. A sort of "generalized variable lambda" except for the fact that setf doesn't actually support it. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 19 13:52:17 2015 Received: (at 21709) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2015 17:52:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57028 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoEbY-0008VJ-Ko for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:52:16 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:49878) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoEbW-0008VB-95 for 21709@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:52:14 -0400 Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t9JHqCox012304 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:52:13 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t9JHqC4P011370 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:52:12 GMT Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t9JHqBjL030158; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:52:11 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:52:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: Random832 , 21709@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: RE: bug#21709: 25.0.50; doc of :variable in `define-minor-mode' References: <131df705-9c27-4cb5-940e-755ea2635031@default> <87si567qk1.fsf@fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87si567qk1.fsf@fastmail.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21709 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > A state could be a single variable, it could be a dozen variables, it > could be a file on the disk [which GET reads and SET writes] - the point > is to have an abstraction that doesn't care what it is. OK; right. In that case there is still no reason to speak of a "state". In that case, the GET sexp can do *anything* and so can the SET function. > Seems like what it really is is a "hackish" way to define a generalized > variable without actually defining one. A sort of "generalized variable > lambda" except for the fact that setf doesn't actually support it. Yup, and not made clear by the doc. (FWIW, grepping the Emacs Lisp sources, it seems that a non-variable PLACE is used only a few times.) And perhaps this should be mentioned in the doc: Using :variable prevents `d-m-m' from defining the variable again, if it was already defined by C code. This idiom is used several times in the Emacs Lisp source code. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Drew Adams writes: > The doc is unclear - both the doc string and (elisp) `Defining Minor > Modes'. Specifically, the part about PLACE being (GET . SET). > > PLACE can also be of the form (GET . SET), where GET is > an [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21709 Cc: 21709@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Drew Adams writes: > The doc is unclear - both the doc string and (elisp) `Defining Minor > Modes'. Specifically, the part about PLACE being (GET . SET). > > PLACE can also be of the form (GET . SET), where GET is > an expression that returns the current state, and SET is > a function that takes one argument, the new state, and > sets it. > > PLACE can also be a cons '(GET . SET)', where GET is an expression that > returns the current state, and SET is a function of one argument (a > state) that sets it. > > Surely the function does not "set" a "state". It might set the > variable to a new value (but it does not "set" the value). > > What is the function argument? A "state"? What does that mean? > State of what? What form does this "state" take? What does it do? > > My guess is that the doc should says something like this: > > The argument is the new variable value, which is assigned to PLACE. > > Presumably, "state" should be replaced by "value" everywhere, here. > But that's just a guess. I think "state" is fine in this context, but you're right that this can be improved. I've altered both the doc string and the manual so be more along your suggested "which is assigned to PLACE". -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 16 08:25:10 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2021 12:25:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48826 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mFbfy-0005c4-Ja for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:25:10 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:43160) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mFbfv-0005bk-Jm for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:25:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=G4gYgnFp6M+AjWbdr5deRhmbq14idR4OA5+D7voeq6g=; b=opJjWB6BloCJ8fHvmEaAS71Dg+ 352t/y5RQ72xBLZK+WWKa4WeP7x/vmn9pXyhDmo+af6Ww5GNkRaoBGLDO3px7A9+/G+mlC54JW9SK zdOSlf8+ErF9j24WdU3LY1RInpWYrczDRr7uXN46L7GNxZl2ihg/KUoxiYUz5IGTPuGg=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mFbfn-0004gT-Pt for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:25:01 +0200 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:24:59 +0200 Message-Id: <87wnold1b8.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #21709 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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