GNU bug report logs - #21695
25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>

Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 21:51:01 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Found in version 25.0.50

Done: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: rms <at> gnu.org
Cc: 21695 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory <at> heytings.org, hmelman <at> gmail.com, larsi <at> gnus.org
Subject: bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 08:56:48 +0200
>     > > The point is not to display unnecessary warnings.  The point is only
>     > > to display warnings for custom variables that should not be set with
>     > > setq because they have a :set form, or IOW, to display warnings for
>     > > custom variables that should be set with customize-set-variables.
>
>    > I checked most of our uses of :set and agree that they usually behave
>    > well-mannered so using `setq' instead is practically always a bug
>    > indeed.
>
> I am puzzled by that statement.  First, it seems to say that the
> definitions of the variables are careful,

I probably should have said "that the definitions of the variables have
been written carefully" so nobody would have come to a conclusion like

> so that they DTRT if the
> user sets one with setq in an init file.

which is not what I had in mind.

> Then it seems to say that setting one of these variable with setq (in
> an init file?) is almost surely a bug.

This is the conclusion I had in mind.

> Those two statements are almost opposites.
>
> Did I misunderstand?

Either you did or my formulation was bad.

martin.




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