From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:16:10 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#21682 <21682@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#21682 <21682@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 25.0.50; display bug Reply-To: bug#21682 <21682@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:16:10 +0000 retitle 21682 25.0.50; display bug reassign 21682 emacs submitter 21682 rms@gnu.org severity 21682 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 13 19:37:18 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Oct 2015 23:37:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39202 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zm98A-0007bJ-Dv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:37:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55969) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zm988-0007bA-LS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:37:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zm987-0006cm-00 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:37:16 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:42849) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zm986-0006ci-Sf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:37:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37666) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zm981-0001FL-EJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:37:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zm980-0006Yu-5G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:37:09 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45003) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zm980-0006Yg-1d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:37:08 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zm97z-0003ni-BE; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:37:07 -0400 From: Richard Stallman To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.0.50; display bug MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:37:07 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). 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See stallman.org/skype.html. --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 14 03:52:31 2015 Received: (at 21682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Oct 2015 07:52:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39441 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmGrO-0006rj-LE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 03:52:30 -0400 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:57114) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmGrM-0006ra-Eo for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 03:52:29 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay1.suse.de (charybdis-ext.suse.de [195.135.220.254]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB7DABE8; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:52:26 +0000 (UTC) From: Andreas Schwab To: Richard Stallman Subject: Re: bug#21682: 25.0.50; display bug References: X-Yow: WHO sees a BEACH BUNNY sobbing on a SHAG RUG?! Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 09:52:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:37:07 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21682 Cc: 21682@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Richard Stallman writes: > In emacs -Q, do C-u M-x rmail RET foo RET with the data below in file > foo. It messes up display on my terminal -- characters appear > on the wrong screen line. Which terminal? I see no artefacts in konsole, so it's more likely a bug in the terminal you use. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 14 12:46:33 2015 Received: (at 21682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Oct 2015 16:46:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40484 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmPCC-0004HP-Rk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 12:46:33 -0400 Received: from mtaout26.012.net.il ([80.179.55.182]:46142) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmPC9-0004HG-NX for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 12:46:30 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout26.012.net.il by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NW700200YCP1B00@mtaout26.012.net.il> for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:49:35 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NW700NV9YQNMO40@mtaout26.012.net.il>; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:49:35 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:46:28 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#21682: 25.0.50; display bug In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Andreas Schwab Message-id: <838u75xusb.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21682 Cc: rms@gnu.org, 21682@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Andreas Schwab > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 09:52:27 +0200 > Cc: 21682@debbugs.gnu.org > > Richard Stallman writes: > > > In emacs -Q, do C-u M-x rmail RET foo RET with the data below in file > > foo. It messes up display on my terminal -- characters appear > > on the wrong screen line. > > Which terminal? I see no artefacts in konsole Neither do I in PuTTY, which emulates xterm. Richard, if you disable auto-composition-mode, does that help? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 14 21:24:12 2015 Received: (at 21682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Oct 2015 01:24:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51287 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmXHA-0006Fe-0O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:24:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49886) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmXH8-0006FX-5s for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:24:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmXH7-0004QG-4F for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:24:09 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40386) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmXH4-0004Og-Ne; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:24:06 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmXH4-0001Xm-8J; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:24:06 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: Andreas Schwab In-reply-to: (message from Andreas Schwab on Wed, 14 Oct 2015 09:52:27 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#21682: 25.0.50; display bug References: Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:24:06 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21682 Cc: 21682@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > In emacs -Q, do C-u M-x rmail RET foo RET with the data below in file > > foo. It messes up display on my terminal -- characters appear > > on the wrong screen line. > Which terminal? I see no artefacts in konsole, so it's more likely a > bug in the terminal you use. I am using a Linux terminal. Emacs needs to cope with it, unless we can get it fixed. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 14 21:25:38 2015 Received: (at 21682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Oct 2015 01:25:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51291 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmXIX-0006Hk-LM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:25:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51141) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmXIW-0006Hd-Az for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:25:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmXIV-00058n-Gi for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:25:36 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40453) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmXIT-000589-04; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:25:33 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmXIS-0001zr-9O; Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:25:32 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <838u75xusb.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 14 Oct 2015 19:46:28 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#21682: 25.0.50; display bug References: <838u75xusb.fsf@gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:25:32 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21682 Cc: schwab@suse.de, 21682@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Richard, if you disable auto-composition-mode, does that help? The bug does not happen when auto-composition-mode is disabled. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 15 03:04:26 2015 Received: (at 21682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Oct 2015 07:04:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51395 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmcaQ-0005uT-5W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 03:04:26 -0400 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:36862) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmcaP-0005uM-0i for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 03:04:25 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay2.suse.de (charybdis-ext.suse.de [195.135.220.254]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007ECAABB; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:04:22 +0000 (UTC) From: Andreas Schwab To: Richard Stallman Subject: Re: bug#21682: 25.0.50; display bug References: X-Yow: FISH-NET-FISH-NET-FISH-NET-FISH-NET-FISH!! Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 09:04:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:24:06 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21682 Cc: 21682@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Richard Stallman writes: > Emacs needs to cope with it, unless we can get it fixed. Emacs cannot know how characters are drawn on a tty. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 15 12:35:34 2015 Received: (at 21682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Oct 2015 16:35:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52538 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmlV7-0003t1-VG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 12:35:34 -0400 Received: from mtaout25.012.net.il ([80.179.55.181]:43277) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZmlV4-0003sr-CD for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 12:35:32 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout25.012.net.il by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NW900L00SLTBF00@mtaout25.012.net.il> for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:33:02 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NW900F7JSN10H60@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:33:02 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:35:28 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#21682: 25.0.50; display bug In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Andreas Schwab , Kenichi Handa Message-id: <83eggw84z3.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21682 Cc: rms@gnu.org, 21682@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Andreas Schwab > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 09:04:24 +0200 > Cc: 21682@debbugs.gnu.org > > Richard Stallman writes: > > > Emacs needs to cope with it, unless we can get it fixed. > > Emacs cannot know how characters are drawn on a tty. Does that mean you understood what causes Richard's problem? If so, can you explain? I thought asking Richard for dribble files in both cases, but if you already understand what's going on, there would be no need. I actually don't understand why we have auto-composition-mode turned on for TTY frames, and where do we take the data for composing characters there (there's no font back-end). Kenichi, can you explain, please? Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 15 13:07:10 2015 Received: (at 21682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Oct 2015 17:07:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52562 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zmlzh-0004dS-BV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:07:09 -0400 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:45978) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zmlzf-0004dJ-5O for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:07:07 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay1.suse.de (charybdis-ext.suse.de [195.135.220.254]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2433EAB4B; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:07:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Andreas Schwab To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#21682: 25.0.50; display bug References: <83eggw84z3.fsf@gnu.org> X-Yow: My uncle Murray conquered Egypt in 53 B.C. And I can prove it too!! Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:07:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83eggw84z3.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:35:28 +0300") Message-ID: <87eggw5adi.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21682 Cc: Kenichi Handa , rms@gnu.org, 21682@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Andreas Schwab >> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 09:04:24 +0200 >> Cc: 21682@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> Richard Stallman writes: >> >> > Emacs needs to cope with it, unless we can get it fixed. >> >> Emacs cannot know how characters are drawn on a tty. > > Does that mean you understood what causes Richard's problem? If so, > can you explain? The terminal has to support composition. The Linux console doesn't. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 15 13:16:30 2015 Received: (at 21682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Oct 2015 17:16:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52566 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zmm8j-0004qK-Rb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:16:30 -0400 Received: from mtaout29.012.net.il ([80.179.55.185]:46544) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zmm8h-0004qB-DU for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:16:28 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout29.012.net.il by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NW900J00U7AFV00@mtaout29.012.net.il> for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 20:15:49 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NW9009OHUMCEKA0@mtaout29.012.net.il>; Thu, 15 Oct 2015 20:15:49 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 20:16:26 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#21682: 25.0.50; display bug In-reply-to: <87eggw5adi.fsf@igel.home> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Andreas Schwab Message-id: <838u74832t.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83eggw84z3.fsf@gnu.org> <87eggw5adi.fsf@igel.home> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21682 Cc: handa@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, 21682@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Andreas Schwab > Cc: Kenichi Handa , rms@gnu.org, 21682@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:07:05 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Andreas Schwab > >> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 09:04:24 +0200 > >> Cc: 21682@debbugs.gnu.org > >> > >> Richard Stallman writes: > >> > >> > Emacs needs to cope with it, unless we can get it fixed. > >> > >> Emacs cannot know how characters are drawn on a tty. > > > > Does that mean you understood what causes Richard's problem? If so, > > can you explain? > > The terminal has to support composition. The Linux console doesn't. Ah, I see, thanks. So maybe we should only turn on auto-composition-mode in terminal-specific files like term/xterm.el? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 16 11:57:59 2015 Received: (at 21682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Oct 2015 15:57:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53552 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn7OI-0007WW-RA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:57:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48925) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn7Nz-0007W7-3S for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:57:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn7Ny-0000c5-3w for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:57:38 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58576) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn7Nw-0000ag-0o; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:57:36 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn7Nv-0000Mz-DO; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:57:35 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: Andreas Schwab In-reply-to: (message from Andreas Schwab on Thu, 15 Oct 2015 09:04:24 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#21682: 25.0.50; display bug References: Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:57:35 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21682 Cc: 21682@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Emacs needs to cope with it, unless we can get it fixed. > Emacs cannot know how characters are drawn on a tty. It can, and it does -- with the help of termcap. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 16 11:59:13 2015 Received: (at 21682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Oct 2015 15:59:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53556 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn7PC-0007Yh-5B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:59:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50490) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn7PA-0007YX-Uf for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:58:53 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn7P9-0001QK-4u for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:58:51 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58662) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn7P6-0001Nw-2Z; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:58:48 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn7P5-0001wk-8T; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:58:47 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <83eggw84z3.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Thu, 15 Oct 2015 19:35:28 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#21682: 25.0.50; display bug References: <83eggw84z3.fsf@gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:58:47 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21682 Cc: schwab@suse.de, 21682@debbugs.gnu.org, handa@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: rms@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I thought asking Richard for dribble files in both cases, but if you > already understand what's going on, there would be no need. I sent a very simple reproducible test case -- better than a dribble file. Did you mean a termscript file? -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 16 12:14:27 2015 Received: (at 21682) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Oct 2015 16:14:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53560 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn7eE-00089p-Mc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 12:14:26 -0400 Received: from mtaout29.012.net.il ([80.179.55.185]:46854) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn7du-000892-9M for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 12:14:25 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout29.012.net.il by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NWB00900LWDAJ00@mtaout29.012.net.il> for 21682@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 19:13:27 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NWB00OPBMEEHHA0@mtaout29.012.net.il>; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 19:13:27 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 19:14:06 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#21682: 25.0.50; display bug In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: rms@gnu.org Message-id: <83d1we6bap.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83eggw84z3.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21682 Cc: schwab@suse.de, 21682@debbugs.gnu.org, handa@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Richard Stallman > CC: schwab@suse.de, handa@gnu.org, 21682@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:58:47 -0400 > > > I thought asking Richard for dribble files in both cases, but if you > > already understand what's going on, there would be no need. > > I sent a very simple reproducible test case -- better than a dribble > file. I don't see the problem on fencepost accessed via PuTTY. > Did you mean a termscript file? Yes, sorry. But now that Andreas explained the problem, there's no need. 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