From unknown Sat Aug 16 12:40:42 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#21653 <21653@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#21653 <21653@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 25.0.50; Add a link to 'C-h b' in section 'Customizing Key Bindings'.Keymaps Reply-To: bug#21653 <21653@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2025 19:40:42 +0000 retitle 21653 25.0.50; Add a link to 'C-h b' in section 'Customizing Key Bi= ndings'.Keymaps reassign 21653 emacs submitter 21653 Marco Wahl severity 21653 wishlist tag 21653 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 09 05:06:32 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Oct 2015 09:06:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33340 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkTdH-0005I4-8i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 05:06:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44409) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkTdE-0005Hv-BY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 05:06:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkTd9-0001IG-Er for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 05:06:28 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:47424) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkTd9-0001IC-Aj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 05:06:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54401) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkTd7-0003wE-J1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 05:06:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkTd4-0001HJ-BO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 05:06:21 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::229]:36027) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZkTd4-0001Gy-3Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 05:06:18 -0400 Received: by wicgb1 with SMTP id gb1so58813494wic.1 for ; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 02:06:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:face:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type; bh=fetXtY3ZyYwh7foWf+lBIMZ7pNb8L0szUkSvafyxfYQ=; b=Y705gT8ME8kZOGxk99G2Q/CESpqBZftm2HW8i7w++kSP6aOO4/y872Z76m0UMROvK3 VUwIajTMJkQjVykuDvtYPq6zTpo3KXljeLSiQ70IPGKur0MgS8RZeYzCTwAkcbFB1qcH 98pg5MO2EEmx5z5dBv2jeXB966ir5mM1qxkrcC9Cxo8Lc/IeGPp+henKX29YSIOF5Z2M HN4SLwAY49lmjEdXJ2mXlaGdEQP678SyDg/ZbgXlnGjaCiKl5qv4MWENbFDUHv+grxom K1ZDOYMDY5wmqbdVCdtEvnR4WA5uYf82qhUI6uKAYmhOmvW9QnjUJiDqRKVRGqxNnVbR iS6Q== X-Received: by 10.180.91.12 with SMTP id ca12mr9226078wib.4.1444381577202; Fri, 09 Oct 2015 02:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tm6592 (x5f7022dc.dyn.telefonica.de. [95.112.34.220]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r4sm10629704wia.19.2015.10.09.02.06.15 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 09 Oct 2015 02:06:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Marco Wahl To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.0.50; Add a link to 'C-h b' in section 'Customizing Key Bindings'.Keymaps X-Face: &"bk.O^qRpF*sK+/, &mRxu!P61bKc5"jprbZ_Rax6=! I`CX6#kmDJ~k3QZ, 69ZJor.hJCO)QXAv?&~]EP.<'HHmggrk?>ptlgr:`@WB+YuWwL=^Hl7iYYD"J) "/wg9Ps9}&2Dy^/:1V~vvHS+hK0}6P{*i`"Zyx8 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Suggestion: In section 'Customizing Key Bindings'.Keymaps add a hint how to get a view on the global keymap. Possibly just note 'C-h b' or link to a respective section. Some people consider this as an improvement of the documentation. See discussion on help.emacs newsgroup "Global keymap not found" a few days ago. In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.5 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.16.7) of 2015-10-06 Repository revision: 0befeb0b7f7492103aa3902146a891fbef9e7d21 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11702000 System Description: Arch Linux Configured using: 'configure CFLAGS=-ggdb' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Info Minor modes in effect: savehist-mode: t zen-reward-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t global-company-mode: t company-mode: t global-lentic-mode: t lentic-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t ido-hacks-mode: t nyan-mode: t override-global-mode: t timeclock-mode-line-display: t show-paren-mode: t erc-list-mode: t erc-menu-mode: t erc-autojoin-mode: t erc-ring-mode: t erc-networks-mode: t erc-pcomplete-mode: t erc-track-mode: t erc-track-minor-mode: t erc-match-mode: t erc-button-mode: t erc-fill-mode: t erc-stamp-mode: t erc-netsplit-mode: t erc-irccontrols-mode: t erc-noncommands-mode: t erc-move-to-prompt-mode: t erc-readonly-mode: t display-time-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t abbrev-mode: t Recent messages: Retrieving newsgroup: nntp+news.aioe.org:gnu.emacs.help... Generating summary...done gnus-registry-handle-action ("" nil "nntp+news.aioe.org:gnu.emacs.help" "Re: Global keymap not found" "Michael Heerdegen " nil) Gnus registry: new entry for is ((subject "Global keymap not found") (sender "Michael Heerdegen ") (group "nntp+news.aioe.org:gnu.emacs.help") (creation-time (22038 13852 287078 858000))) Generating summary...done Quit Mark set [9 times] Mark saved where search started Quit kill-line: End of buffer Load-path shadows: Error during checking Features: (shadow emacsbug image-file calc-alg calc-menu calc-aent org-table bbdb-message mailalias gnus-fun iso-transl hippie-exp misearch multi-isearch hl-line cal-iso sh-script smie executable goto-addr eieio-opt speedbar sb-image ezimage dframe bookmark tabify org-capture em-unix em-term term ehelp em-script em-prompt em-ls em-hist em-pred em-glob em-dirs em-cmpl em-basic em-banner em-alias esh-var esh-io esh-cmd esh-opt esh-ext esh-proc esh-arg esh-groups eshell esh-module esh-mode esh-util dictionary link connection flow-fill gnus-cite gnus-bcklg mail-extr gnus-async qp gnus-ml mm-archive url-cache nnrss nndoc nndraft nnmh utf-7 epa-file gnutls network-stream nsm starttls nnfolder bbdb-gnus nnnil gnus-agent gnus-srvr gnus-score score-mode nnvirtual gnus-msg gnus-cache gnus-demon nntp smtpmail sendmail server checkdoc page-ext ffap erc-dcc battery view cal-china lunar cal-islam cal-hebrew holidays hol-loaddefs bbdb-anniv appt diary-lib diary-loaddefs warnings bbdb-csv-import pcsv emacsshot rope-read-mode org-timer org-clock epa epg vc vc-dispatcher org-indent disp-table org-velocity dabbrev org-eww org-elisp-symbol org-drill savehist org-learn hi-lock org-bullets org-w3m org-rmail org-mhe org-irc org-inlinetask org-info org-habit org-agenda org-gnus org-docview doc-view jka-compr image-mode org-ctags org-bibtex bibtex org-bbdb region-linum auxies-eww auxies-rest rect little-helpers bbdb-mua bbdb-com crm gnorb-bbdb bbdb bbdb-site timezone bbdb-loaddefs emms-librefm-stream emms-librefm-scrobbler emms-playlist-limit emms-volume emms-volume-amixer emms-i18n emms-history emms-score emms-stream-info emms-metaplaylist-mode emms-bookmarks emms-cue emms-mode-line-icon emms-browser sort emms-playlist-sort emms-last-played emms-player-xine emms-player-mpd tq emms-playing-time emms-lyrics emms-url emms-streams emms-tag-editor emms-mark emms-mode-line emms-cache emms-info-ogginfo emms-info-mp3info emms-info later-do emms-playlist-mode emms-player-vlc emms-player-mplayer emms-player-simple emms-source-playlist emms-source-file locate emms-setup emms emms-compat gnus-load org-screenshot org-attach vc-git diff-mode org-id org-protocol gnuplot info-look helm helm-source helm-multi-match helm-lib zeitgeist dbus xml slime compile arc-mode archive-mode hyperspec aurel url-http url-auth url-gw json url-handlers rase solar cal-dst gnorb gnorb-org gnorb-registry gnus-registry registry eieio-base gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 mm-view mml-smime smime dig gnorb-gnus gnorb-utils nngnorb nnir paredit key-chord company-files company-oddmuse company-keywords company-etags etags xref project company-gtags company-dabbrev-code company-dabbrev company-capf company-cmake company-xcode company-clang company-semantic company-eclim company-template company-css company-nxml company-bbdb company lentic-mode lentic-doc f s ucs-normalize lentic-org lentic-chunk rx ox-texinfo ox-org ox-odt rng-loc rng-uri rng-parse rng-match rng-dt rng-util rng-pttrn nxml-parse nxml-ns nxml-enc xmltok nxml-util ox-md ox-icalendar ox-html table ox-beamer ox-latex ox-ascii ox-publish ox org-element avl-tree the-org-mode-expansions org org-macro org-footnote org-pcomplete org-list org-faces org-entities noutline outline org-version ob-plantuml ob-sqlite ob-sql ob-screen ob-J ob-io ob-shell shell ob-clojure ob-scheme ob-gnuplot ob-dot ob-ditaa ob-lisp ob-css ob-js ob-org ob-ledger ob-latex ob-calc calc-store calc-trail calc-ext calc calc-loaddefs calc-macs ob-C cc-mode-expansions cc-mode cc-fonts cc-guess cc-menus cc-cmds cc-styles cc-align cc-engine cc-vars cc-defs ob-python ob-awk ob-emacs-lisp ob ob-tangle ob-ref ob-lob ob-table ob-exp org-src ob-keys ob-comint ob-core ob-eval org-compat org-macs org-loaddefs find-func cal-menu calendar cal-loaddefs gnus-sum gnus-group gnus-undo gnus-start gnus-cloud nnimap nnmail mail-source tls utf7 netrc nnoo parse-time gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range message dired rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader gnus-win eww mm-url gnus gnus-ems nnheader mail-utils url-queue url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie url-domsuf url-util url-parse url-vars mailcap shr dom subr-x browse-url lentic eieio-compat m-buffer-at m-buffer m-buffer-macro dash ido-hacks ido seq expand-region text-mode-expansions er-basic-expansions expand-region-core expand-region-custom advice browse-kill-ring derived nyan-mode use-package diminish bind-key easy-mmode finder-inf tex-site edmacro kmacro cl screenshot-autoloads slime-autoloads info package epg-config timeclock paren avoid erc-list erc-menu erc-join erc-ring erc-networks erc-pcomplete pcomplete comint ansi-color ring erc-track erc-match erc-button wid-edit erc-fill erc-stamp erc-netsplit erc-goodies erc erc-backend erc-compat format-spec auth-source cl-seq eieio byte-opt bytecomp byte-compile cl-extra cconv eieio-core cl-macs gv gnus-util time-date mm-util help-fns help-mode easymenu mail-prsvr password-cache thingatpt pp time desktop frameset cl-loaddefs pcase cl-lib cus-start cus-load mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese charscript case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 2459959 221620) (symbols 48 86283 0) (miscs 40 11005 7030) (strings 32 464562 50348) (string-bytes 1 8844957) (vectors 16 110268) (vector-slots 8 2437148 139816) (floats 8 2907 2148) (intervals 56 410699 13790) (buffers 976 107) (heap 1024 171388 37781)) -- Marco Wahl GPG: 0x49010A040A3AE6F2 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 01 14:55:09 2019 Received: (at 21653) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Aug 2019 18:55:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55223 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htGEG-0003W1-Rj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 14:55:09 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:44246) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htGEE-0003Vt-Ot for 21653@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 14:55:07 -0400 Received: from 77.18.62.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([77.18.62.220] helo=sandy) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1htGEA-0002yJ-E6; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 20:55:04 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Marco Wahl Subject: Re: bug#21653: 25.0.50; Add a link to 'C-h b' in section 'Customizing Key Bindings'.Keymaps References: <847fmw2yyi.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2019 20:55:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: <847fmw2yyi.fsf@gmail.com> (Marco Wahl's message of "Fri, 09 Oct 2015 11:06:13 +0200") Message-ID: <87imrghg1m.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Marco Wahl writes: > Suggestion: In section 'Customizing Key Bindings'.Keymaps add a hint > how to get a view on the global keymap. > > Possibly just note 'C-h b' or link to a respective section. > > Some people conside [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.0 TVD_RCVD_IP Message was received from an IP address -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21653 Cc: 21653@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Marco Wahl writes: > Suggestion: In section 'Customizing Key Bindings'.Keymaps add a hint > how to get a view on the global keymap. > > Possibly just note 'C-h b' or link to a respective section. > > Some people consider this as an improvement of the documentation. See > discussion on help.emacs newsgroup "Global keymap not found" a few days > ago. This seems like a good place to mention `C-h b', so I've now done this in the Emacs 27 manual. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 01 14:55:21 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Aug 2019 18:55:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55226 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htGET-0003WZ-6F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 14:55:21 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:44260) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htGER-0003WR-48 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 14:55:19 -0400 Received: from 77.18.62.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([77.18.62.220] helo=sandy) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1htGEO-0002yV-F2 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 20:55:18 +0200 Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2019 20:55:15 +0200 Message-Id: <87h870hg18.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #21653 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: tags 21653 fixed close 21653 27.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.0 TVD_RCVD_IP Message was received from an IP address -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 21653 fixed close 21653 27.1 quit From unknown Sat Aug 16 12:40:42 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2019 11:24:07 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator