From unknown Sun Aug 17 01:53:36 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#215: view-lossage should go to point-max Reply-To: jidanni@jidanni.org, 215@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: jidanni@jidanni.org Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 00:50:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 215 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.12104664562801 (code B ref -1); Sun, 11 May 2008 00:50:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=4.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 May 2008 00:40:56 +0000 Received: from mx10.gnu.org (mail.gnu.org [199.232.76.166]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4B0eq2H002795 for ; Sat, 10 May 2008 17:40:54 -0700 Received: from lax-green-bigip-5.dreamhost.com ([208.113.200.5]:44891 helo=blingymail-a2.g.dreamhost.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JuzcS-0002mZ-D2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 May 2008 20:40:52 -0400 Received: from jidanni1.jidanni.org (unknown [122.127.36.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blingymail-a2.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5027404CD for ; Sat, 10 May 2008 17:40:43 -0700 (PDT) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: jidanni@jidanni.org Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 08:40:18 +0800 Message-ID: <87mymx8yh9.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-GNU-Loop: 1 Gentlemen, C-h l runs the command view-lossage. Back when Stallman was young, this worked fine. But nowadays that buffer won't often fit in a window, so please add a (point-max) somewhere in it, as we are only interested in the _final_ strokes. Also how quaint hardwiring 100... From unknown Sun Aug 17 01:53:36 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#215: view-lossage should go to point-max Reply-To: "Drew Adams" , 215@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 01:05:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 215 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.12104675964802 (code B ref -1); Sun, 11 May 2008 01:05:05 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 May 2008 00:59:56 +0000 Received: from mx10.gnu.org (mx10.gnu.org [199.232.76.166]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4B0xrhI004796 for ; Sat, 10 May 2008 17:59:54 -0700 Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]:21940) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Juzuq-0005fQ-P9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 May 2008 20:59:52 -0400 Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id m4B0xeWK007922; Sat, 10 May 2008 18:59:40 -0600 Received: from acsmt350.oracle.com (acsmt350.oracle.com [141.146.40.150]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m4ANovHQ028536; Sat, 10 May 2008 18:59:39 -0600 Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3669856111210467564; Sat, 10 May 2008 17:59:24 -0700 Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.5.171.3) by bhmail.oracle.com (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 10 May 2008 17:59:24 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: , <215@debbugs.gnu.org>, References: <87mymx8yh9.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 17:59:24 -0700 Message-ID: <000f01c8b302$41475700$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87mymx8yh9.fsf@jidanni.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcizAWPBWQN9h6qsQMyxQGSjRUCVlQAAJNJQ X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-GNU-Loop: 1 X-CrossAssassin-Score: 2 > Also how quaint hardwiring 100... I would very much like to see that 100 be increased a great deal (e.g. 1000), and preferably made an option. This has been requested before, but nothing has come of it. From unknown Sun Aug 17 01:53:36 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#215: view-lossage should go to point-max Reply-To: martin rudalics , 215@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 08:00:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 215 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.121049230429168 (code B ref -1); Sun, 11 May 2008 08:00:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 May 2008 07:51:44 +0000 Received: from mx10.gnu.org (mx10.gnu.org [199.232.76.166]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4B7peSH029160 for ; Sun, 11 May 2008 00:51:42 -0700 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:36898) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jv6LM-0001E8-Eh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2008 03:51:40 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 May 2008 07:51:39 -0000 Received: from 62-47-54-236.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.54.236]) [62.47.54.236] by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 11 May 2008 09:51:39 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/IBH02JkfIYEIjve+IbjgcNJrA5GTNpO+zTdqINO H53dUXNhInAwpT Message-ID: <4826A58A.9000701@gmx.at> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 09:51:38 +0200 From: martin rudalics User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jidanni@jidanni.org, 215@debbugs.gnu.org CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org References: <87mymx8yh9.fsf@jidanni.org> In-Reply-To: <87mymx8yh9.fsf@jidanni.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-GNU-Loop: 1 > Gentlemen, C-h l runs the command view-lossage. > Back when Stallman was young, this worked fine. But nowadays that > buffer won't often fit in a window, so please add a (point-max) > somewhere in it, as we are only interested in the _final_ strokes. This should work in the development version ... > Also how quaint hardwiring 100... ... maybe. Currently Emacs seems to store the 300 most recent key events. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 09 18:45:32 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2011 22:45:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfgHE-0001MZ-DO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 18:45:32 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfgHC-0001MN-Fw for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 18:45:31 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QfgH7-0001Ob-BL for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 18:45:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 18:45:25 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 3304 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) forcemerge 215 3304 From unknown Sun Aug 17 01:53:36 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: jidanni@jidanni.org Subject: bug#215: closed (Re: bug#215: view-lossage should go to point-max) Message-ID: References: <87mymx8yh9.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 215 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 215@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:56:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1329872162-12674-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1329872162-12674-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #215: view-lossage should go to point-max which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 215@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 215: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D215 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1329872162-12674-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 215-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2012 00:55:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49478 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S00Un-0003Hx-7G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:55:49 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:54327 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S00Ui-0003Hm-4q for 215-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:55:48 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S00SS-0000nw-8f; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:53:24 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 215-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#215: view-lossage should go to point-max References: <87mymx8yh9.fsf@jidanni.org> <4826A58A.9000701@gmx.at> X-Spook: ASLET security secure asset Mena Rand Corporation AIMSX X-Ran: dz4As..t5_jN`Yg~qoxXi4B%fHgzYwJnsCp[bSw\=2{Lbw=IF!gqKP|%3?Dd04D^J#;];, X-Hue: green X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:53:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4826A58A.9000701@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Sun, 11 May 2008 09:51:38 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 215-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Version: 23.1 It has done since 23.1. ------------=_1329872162-12674-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From jidanni@jidanni.org Sat May 10 17:40:56 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=4.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 May 2008 00:40:56 +0000 Received: from mx10.gnu.org (mail.gnu.org [199.232.76.166]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m4B0eq2H002795 for ; Sat, 10 May 2008 17:40:54 -0700 Received: from lax-green-bigip-5.dreamhost.com ([208.113.200.5]:44891 helo=blingymail-a2.g.dreamhost.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JuzcS-0002mZ-D2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 10 May 2008 20:40:52 -0400 Received: from jidanni1.jidanni.org (unknown [122.127.36.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blingymail-a2.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5027404CD for ; Sat, 10 May 2008 17:40:43 -0700 (PDT) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: view-lossage should go to point-max From: jidanni@jidanni.org Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 08:40:18 +0800 Message-ID: <87mymx8yh9.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-GNU-Loop: 1 Gentlemen, C-h l runs the command view-lossage. Back when Stallman was young, this worked fine. But nowadays that buffer won't often fit in a window, so please add a (point-max) somewhere in it, as we are only interested in the _final_ strokes. Also how quaint hardwiring 100... ------------=_1329872162-12674-1-- From unknown Sun Aug 17 01:53:36 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: jidanni@jidanni.org Subject: bug#3304: closed (Re: bug#215: view-lossage should go to point-max) Message-ID: References: <87bppuysur.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 3304 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 3304@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:56:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1329872162-12674-3" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1329872162-12674-3 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #215: view-lossage assumes always can see to bottom which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 3304@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 215: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D215 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1329872162-12674-3 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 215-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2012 00:55:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49478 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S00Un-0003Hx-7G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:55:49 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:54327 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S00Ui-0003Hm-4q for 215-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:55:48 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S00SS-0000nw-8f; Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:53:24 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 215-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#215: view-lossage should go to point-max References: <87mymx8yh9.fsf@jidanni.org> <4826A58A.9000701@gmx.at> X-Spook: ASLET security secure asset Mena Rand Corporation AIMSX X-Ran: dz4As..t5_jN`Yg~qoxXi4B%fHgzYwJnsCp[bSw\=2{Lbw=IF!gqKP|%3?Dd04D^J#;];, X-Hue: green X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:53:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4826A58A.9000701@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Sun, 11 May 2008 09:51:38 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 215-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Version: 23.1 It has done since 23.1. ------------=_1329872162-12674-3 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 May 2009 04:19:49 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8, SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN0b autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4G4Jgc7022784 for ; Fri, 15 May 2009 21:19:44 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M5BN8-0005ba-A8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 May 2009 00:19:42 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M5BN3-0005Zf-HU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 May 2009 00:19:42 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38099 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M5BN3-0005ZZ-CV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 May 2009 00:19:37 -0400 Received: from balanced.mail.policyd.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.119]:54345 helo=homiemail-a6.g.dreamhost.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M5BN3-0002WJ-0q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 May 2009 00:19:37 -0400 Received: from jidanni.org (122-127-41-22.dynamic.hinet.net [122.127.41.22]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by homiemail-a6.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0DE155B4 for ; Fri, 15 May 2009 21:19:34 -0700 (PDT) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: view-lossage assumes always can see to bottom From: jidanni@jidanni.org Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 05:11:08 +0800 Message-ID: <87bppuysur.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) view-lossage assumes one has a terminal large enough to always see to the bottom of the *Help* buffer it creates. No, terminals aren't getting smaller since the last time I brought this up. The problem is that we are not just dealing with a b c d e, but longer names that fill up the *Help* buffer so one can't just see what one has just typed right away. One must scroll that buffer as an extra step. My terminal has exactly 20 lines available for the *Help* buffer when I hit C-h l. (defun view-lossage () Needs to have a variable instead of the hardwired "Display last 100 input keystrokes. But much more importantly needs to (goto-char (point-max)) somewhere inside it, as what we last typed is ALWAYS what we are interested in, not [aforementioned new variable] strokes ago, which no longer fits on the screen anyway. I tried to put (goto-char (point-max)) into view-lossage but failed the lisp miserably, else I would send you a patch. Anyway, just do will you please, while you are reading this message. The window splits in half but the *Help* buffer's bottom is too big at least here for me, and I must scroll it to see the vital last few lines. Wait! I have now a totally new solution that puts it all on the screen! Two wrongs (hardwiring variables) don't make a right, and will ensure I'll be writing you back the next time it outgrows its pants, but here it is anyway. emacs-version "22.3.1": $ cd /tmp;diff -u Orig.help.el help.el --- Orig.help.el 2009-05-16 04:57:07.811578491 +0800 +++ help.el 2009-05-16 04:55:50.000000000 +0800 @@ -453,7 +453,7 @@ " ")) (with-current-buffer standard-output (goto-char (point-min)) - (while (progn (move-to-column 50) (not (eobp))) + (while (progn (move-to-column 70) (not (eobp))) (when (search-forward " " nil t) (delete-char -1)) (insert "\n"))) ------------=_1329872162-12674-3-- From unknown Sun Aug 17 01:53:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#215: view-lossage should go to point-max Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:40:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 215 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "'Glenn Morris'" , <215-done@debbugs.gnu.org>, <215@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 215-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B215.1329928794779 (code B ref 215); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:40:03 +0000 Received: (at 215) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2012 16:39:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51236 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S0FEL-0000CO-Ev for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:39:52 -0500 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:33971) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S0FEE-0000C2-7I; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:39:43 -0500 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q1MGbBoA010969 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:37:12 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1MGbA15019732 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:37:11 GMT Received: from abhmt116.oracle.com (abhmt116.oracle.com [141.146.116.68]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q1MGbAUp032401; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:37:10 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:37:10 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" References: <87mymx8yh9.fsf@jidanni.org> <4826A58A.9000701@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:37:09 -0800 Message-ID: <83B6BA7A19F04F77BFCAEA95726C2C68@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Thread-Index: Aczw/HYOGp+NZF7QSq+jnyzVOJgpkQAgy+tg X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.4F4519B9.0021,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) > Version: 23.1 > It has done since 23.1. No. That does _not_ answer the bug report, which also stated that hard-coding 100 as the number of keys printed is not right. You are trivializing the bug. >From the OP and followup thread: >>> Also how quaint hardwiring 100... >> >> I would very much like to see that 100 be increased a great >> deal (e.g. 1000), and preferably made an option. This has been >> requested before, but nothing has come of it. Please increase the default value of this limit and make it a user option - or at least a defvar. 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