From unknown Thu Sep 11 16:39:35 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#2145 <2145@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#2145 <2145@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 23.0.90; S-SPC should scroll up in view-only buffers Reply-To: bug#2145 <2145@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2025 23:39:35 +0000 retitle 2145 23.0.90; S-SPC should scroll up in view-only buffers reassign 2145 emacs submitter 2145 Rudi Schlatte severity 2145 wishlist thanks From rudi@constantly.at Sun Feb 1 17:20:23 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 2 Feb 2009 01:20:24 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n121KKtg023506 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:20:21 -0800 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:53982) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LTnSM-0008Hi-O8 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:18:34 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LTnU0-0007a6-BZ for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:20:17 -0500 Received: from mx-out-manc3.simplymailsolutions.com ([85.90.252.32]:47811) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LTnTz-0007Zs-Ty for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:20:16 -0500 Received: from unx-s-manc3.ifeltd.com ([10.1.10.3]) by mx-out-manc3.simplymailsolutions.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n1218FEQ007781 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 01:08:16 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by unx-s-manc3.ifeltd.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670128CACD2 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 01:20:09 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unx-s-manc3.ifeltd.com Received: from unx-s-manc3.ifeltd.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (unx-s-manc3.ifeltd.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5oZaks4dfLy6; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 01:20:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pc151.iist.unu.edu (z118l194.static.ctm.net [202.175.118.194]) by unx-s-manc3.ifeltd.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8671B8CACCD; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 01:20:01 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: From: Rudi Schlatte To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 23.0.90; S-SPC should scroll up in view-only buffers Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:19:56 +0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) (This should be filed as "wishlist") Summary: S-SPC should scroll up in view-only buffers, such as info, gnus messages and buffers in view-mode; currently it scrolls down. Rationale: Most other programs that display more than a screenful of information (Firefox, various mail clients, the evince pdf viewer, ...) use SPC to scroll down and S-SPC (Shift-Space) to scroll up. Emacs uses SPC (and S-SPC) to scroll down and to scroll up. Additionally, in some programs, Backspace is bound to some deleting action (in my email reader, it moves the current message to Trash). Paging up and down through stuff thus requires me to be careful about which program I'm in; I've accidentally deleted emails after reading too much stuff in emacs. Workarounds: Putting the appropriate define-key forms, e.g. (define-key view-mode-map (kbd "S-SPC") 'View-scroll-page-backward) (define-key Info-mode-map (kbd "S-SPC") 'Info-scroll-down) in the user's init file. From rgm@gnu.org Sun Feb 1 23:11:53 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 2 Feb 2009 07:11:53 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.0 required=4.0 tests=MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8, VALID_BTS_CONTROL,X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n127Bpnq013959 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 23:11:52 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LTswV-0000VE-Ll; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:10:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18822.40011.133086.730105@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:10:03 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: control Subject: control message X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes reassign 2139 spam reassign 2142 spam reassign 2143 spam reassign 2141 emacs,cc-mode reassign 2135 emacs,rmail reassign 2137 emacs,rmail reassign 2150 emacs,rmail severity 2145 wishlist tags 2134 - patch merge 801 2134 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 11 23:48:46 2013 Received: (at 2145-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Feb 2013 04:48:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51314 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U57nR-00077U-HF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:48:45 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:54724) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U57nP-00077N-7s for 2145-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:48:44 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U57n0-0002Ad-Ni; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:48:18 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 2145-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2145: 23.0.90; S-SPC should scroll up in view-only buffers References: X-Spook: AMW Ruby Ridge Marxist Vickie Weaver monarchist X-Ran: 9-g?#B2xrjUs9gVY4"Sv_Y7y?{I.qy{9:-ZD=,P^jcLugfEs:L%/mu?-1@az(-a,"oHI8S X-Hue: green X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:48:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Rudi Schlatte's message of "Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:19:56 +0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 2145-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Version: 24.4 Rudi Schlatte wrote: > S-SPC should scroll up in view-only buffers, such as info, gnus > messages and buffers in view-mode; currently it scrolls down. Sorry for the huge delay. This seemed like a good idea to me, so I did it in whichever relevant keymaps I could find. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 12 12:59:50 2013 Received: (at 2145) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Feb 2013 17:59:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52518 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U5K8z-00022D-It for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:59:49 -0500 Received: from ps18281.dreamhost.com ([69.163.218.105]:36609 helo=ps18281.dreamhostps.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U5K8v-00021s-Mm for 2145@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:59:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBD2201C9FA19; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 09:59:17 -0800 (PST) From: Juri Linkov To: 2145@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2145: 23.0.90; S-SPC should scroll up in view-only buffers Organization: JURTA References: Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 19:42:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:48:18 -0500") Message-ID: <87ehglr3d3.fsf@mail.jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 2145 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, rudi@constantly.at X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) >> S-SPC should scroll up in view-only buffers, such as info, >> gnus messages and buffers in view-mode; currently it scrolls down. > > Sorry for the huge delay. This seemed like a good idea to me, so I did > it in whichever relevant keymaps I could find. To do the same for gnus messages is possible with: (define-key gnus-summary-mode-map [?\S-\ ] 'gnus-summary-prev-page) (define-key gnus-article-mode-map [?\S-\ ] 'gnus-article-goto-prev-page) And this is also useful for images: (define-key image-mode-map [?\S-\ ] 'image-scroll-down) (define-key doc-view-mode-map [?\S-\ ] 'doc-view-scroll-down-or-previous-page) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 12 13:54:49 2013 Received: (at 2145) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Feb 2013 18:54:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52555 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U5L0D-0003Fr-EZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:54:49 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:45459) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U5L0C-0003Fl-Gm for 2145@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:54:48 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5Kzj-0004yR-SQ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:54:19 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Juri Linkov Subject: Re: bug#2145: 23.0.90; S-SPC should scroll up in view-only buffers References: <87ehglr3d3.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-Spook: colonel clandestine AVN FTS2000 broadside Leitrim X-Ran: $t)KsTucU>Xb5.Tx]D`N!`pN-"=]yU{(>A (Juri Linkov's message of "Tue, 12 Feb 2013 19:42:40 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 2145 Cc: 2145@debbugs.gnu.org, rudi@constantly.at X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Juri Linkov wrote: > To do the same for gnus messages is possible with: > > (define-key gnus-summary-mode-map [?\S-\ ] 'gnus-summary-prev-page) > (define-key gnus-article-mode-map [?\S-\ ] 'gnus-article-goto-prev-page) > > And this is also useful for images: > > (define-key image-mode-map [?\S-\ ] 'image-scroll-down) > (define-key doc-view-mode-map [?\S-\ ] 'doc-view-scroll-down-or-previous-page) Please add them then. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 13 03:30:46 2013 Received: (at 2145) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2013 08:30:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53195 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U5Xjq-0006uO-AA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 03:30:46 -0500 Received: from ps18281.dreamhost.com ([69.163.218.105]:49494 helo=ps18281.dreamhostps.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U5Xjn-0006uG-M9 for 2145@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 03:30:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1BD258838549; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 00:30:11 -0800 (PST) From: Juri Linkov To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#2145: 23.0.90; S-SPC should scroll up in view-only buffers Organization: JURTA References: <87ehglr3d3.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:29:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:54:19 -0500") Message-ID: <87vc9wzkeq.fsf@mail.jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 2145 Cc: 2145@debbugs.gnu.org, rudi@constantly.at X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) >> To do the same for gnus messages is possible with: >> >> (define-key gnus-summary-mode-map [?\S-\ ] 'gnus-summary-prev-page) >> (define-key gnus-article-mode-map [?\S-\ ] 'gnus-article-goto-prev-page) >> >> And this is also useful for images: >> >> (define-key image-mode-map [?\S-\ ] 'image-scroll-down) >> (define-key doc-view-mode-map [?\S-\ ] 'doc-view-scroll-down-or-previous-page) > > Please add them then. 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