From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:18:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21316: 25.0.50; eww-browse-with-external-browser should respect browse-url by default Resent-From: Artur Malabarba Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 21316 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 21316@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.144018266427857 (code B ref -1); Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:45:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Aug 2015 18:44:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34760 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSrId-0007FB-AO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 14:44:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54097) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSrIa-0007Ez-Cj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 14:44:20 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSrIZ-0002Um-9u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 14:44:20 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:51854) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSrIZ-0002Ui-72 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 14:44:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35865) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSrIY-0000g4-CW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 14:44:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSrIX-0002UJ-Nd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 14:44:18 -0400 Received: from mail-lb0-x233.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c04::233]:34683) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSrIX-0002UC-FI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 14:44:17 -0400 Received: by lbbtg9 with SMTP id tg9so49230619lbb.1 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 11:44:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Rva+QiLun8oTlKpjZ8le2F7et0j1xcAXVQpgcahekOY=; b=v1s3UeT4ZP6gs0hUlN0u+YTZxG9g8rtmJ+pvFwCPpo84SXeT4R7gbdS5I+EHKeg5jm BgU/RtsmAsnZO/bK098M1urUnkX5vvuBaYHUJZxYdu6MDQSR5Rl0idrsKDsz8LWUHj1Q tzZHVcTdJ0K9uzJtGk8+FHxuPO1C/qs2JFRpQIwtOq2tjhba0TN9FsIHuCQ1s2EhGoUx 3dsKqdVUW0wC1SBxt0gNVOZnaZyt+yq51obYrk0zj3YNvK7IQvzAw6oxClu1bcFzm/Zc bKUJ/uKWLCOvAJuTgFTghqQdtkcA+fa1ag/en21GRFv7f0Ub+eoyYKL/UOTV9NVOMH8o z3tQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.18.164 with SMTP id x4mr4317095lad.35.1440182656543; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 11:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.134.139 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 11:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 19:44:16 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: zBcY3ebRxyGcVqi5KYQqu0Zkl9I Message-ID: From: Artur Malabarba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) The browser used by `eww-browse-with-external-browser' is given by the variable `shr-external-browser'. The default value of this variable is `browse-url-default-browser', which gives me the impression that it's trying to fallback on whatever `browse-url' would do. But `browse-url' behaviour is actually configured by `browse-url-browser-function' In terms of actual user experience, I was surprised when `eww-browse-with-external-browser' launched the wrong browser for me. In my opinion: - There should be a value for this variable (nil?) that simply fallsback on browse-url. (pretty straightforward) - This value should be the default. (slightly subjective) From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:18:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21316: 25.0.50; eww-browse-with-external-browser should respect browse-url by default Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 05:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21316 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Artur Malabarba Cc: 21316@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 21316-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21316.145102278726491 (code B ref 21316); Fri, 25 Dec 2015 05:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 21316) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2015 05:53:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34037 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCLJK-0006tD-SC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 00:53:07 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:36506) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCLJJ-0006t5-AF for 21316@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 00:53:05 -0500 Received: from 2.150.58.24.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.58.24] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aCLIx-0001we-9I; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 06:52:43 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 06:52:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Artur Malabarba's message of "Fri, 21 Aug 2015 19:44:16 +0100") Message-ID: <87y4cjf51x.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1aCLIx-0001we-9I X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1451627564.1251@Tiw4ayCPzB4ISkfMoKOtxA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Artur Malabarba writes: > The browser used by `eww-browse-with-external-browser' is given by the > variable `shr-external-browser'. The default value of this variable is > `browse-url-default-browser', which gives me the impression that it's > trying to fallback on whatever `browse-url' would do. > But `browse-url' behaviour is actually configured by > `browse-url-browser-function' > > In terms of actual user experience, I was surprised when > `eww-browse-with-external-browser' launched the wrong browser for me. This is so that you can set `browse-url-browser-function' to eww, which is what everybody does. :-) You still need an external browser, and `browse-url-default-browser' returns one of those. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 25 00:53:11 2015 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2015 05:53:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34040 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCLJP-0006tV-3p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 00:53:11 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:36512) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCLJN-0006tM-H8 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 00:53:09 -0500 Received: from 2.150.58.24.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.58.24] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aCLJ2-0001wl-KQ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 06:52:48 +0100 Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 06:52:48 +0100 Message-Id: <87wps3f51r.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #21316 X-MailScanner-ID: 1aCLJ2-0001wl-KQ X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1451627568.87592@JrlcqsBJ+1szsmhyReoZPw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) tags 21316 notabug close 21316 From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:18:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21316: 25.0.50; eww-browse-with-external-browser should respect browse-url by default Resent-From: Artur Malabarba Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 23:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21316 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Cc: 21316@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Received: via spool by 21316-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21316.145134578323467 (code B ref 21316); Mon, 28 Dec 2015 23:37:02 +0000 Received: (at 21316) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Dec 2015 23:36:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46927 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aDhKt-00066M-Jd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 18:36:23 -0500 Received: from mail-yk0-f177.google.com ([209.85.160.177]:36167) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aDhKo-000664-Of for 21316@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 18:36:18 -0500 Received: by mail-yk0-f177.google.com with SMTP id v14so23311825ykd.3 for <21316@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 15:36:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=gOa89MauIRo1Tn3PJv+9KnPfPXcaMatPPyXt9Sx+c5k=; b=OVA//Z0N7QDDV38qPTNxxHSne+zv5ZRJPKLwbm0Q8hh6L7+35IxBPUf0Cd979/xI2D +qvIHTewONtBN7ZxsNzq6R0PkwdxbO98DyWi2cGKRCjVMCG2umPBGti+SCvYIBERZnJZ rqX+HrBVDyxmSaIkc6KT5Np5qYw6NgjOVLTLKtdWovAu1XCHvJ1hLKOY2DM2ELhxZmyg VcFfn+P1ZBmoSnA15qy8ZGcRNfjk5CwdKPa9jXt1zaJsLJBmOaCF5BMwZhiP9/dOMrB3 I8ApD+HhE1ZUEIFinaI0OUAiI9kxHeKx9N9NF0BFJAhKTP2hMVtxkZ85rXTDCdoeLisO hK7A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.13.251.197 with SMTP id l188mr40618153ywf.172.1451345769112; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 15:36:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.129.87.130 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 15:36:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.129.87.130 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Dec 2015 15:36:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87y4cjf51x.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87y4cjf51x.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 23:36:09 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: n3MPWRhxy_1_cJsnnLpKsV-_JM0 Message-ID: From: Artur Malabarba Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c07f41c03ac350527fdc5b3 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --94eb2c07f41c03ac350527fdc5b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 25 Dec 2015 3:52 am, "Lars Ingebrigtsen" wrote: > > In terms of actual user experience, I was surprised when > > `eww-browse-with-external-browser' launched the wrong browser for me. > > This is so that you can set `browse-url-browser-function' to eww, which > is what everybody does. :-) You still need an external browser, and > `browse-url-default-browser' returns one of those. I understand the logic. Still, is there any chance we can find another solution? Something that avoids the surprise I had? This was the first time emacs ever opened the wrong browser for me. Not a huge deal, though. --94eb2c07f41c03ac350527fdc5b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On 25 Dec 2015 3:52 am, "Lars Ingebrigtsen" <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
> > In terms of actual user experience, I was surprised when
> > `eww-browse-with-external-browser' launched the wrong browser= for me.
>
> This is so that you can set `browse-url-browser-function' to eww, = which
> is what everybody does.=C2=A0 :-)=C2=A0 You still need an external bro= wser, and
> `browse-url-default-browser' returns one of those.

I understand the logic. Still, is there any chance we can fi= nd another solution?
Something that avoids the surprise I had? This was the first time emacs eve= r opened the wrong browser for me.

Not a huge deal, though.

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