From unknown Sat Aug 09 13:07:51 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#21286 <21286@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#21286 <21286@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 25.0.50; Setting =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98blink-matching-delay=E2=80=99?= has no effect Reply-To: bug#21286 <21286@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2025 20:07:51 +0000 retitle 21286 25.0.50; Setting =E2=80=98blink-matching-delay=E2=80=99 has n= o effect reassign 21286 emacs submitter 21286 Mark Karpov severity 21286 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 18 09:01:28 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2015 13:01:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58845 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRgW4-0007L0-3f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:01:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38774) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRgVy-0007Ko-Mr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:01:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRgVv-0001Ws-5h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:01:18 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:34907) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRgVv-0001Wo-35 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:01:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48731) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRgVs-0003i7-Tl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:01:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRgVl-0001SL-8h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:01:12 -0400 Received: from smtp4.openmailbox.org ([62.4.1.38]:45516) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRgVk-0001PB-I7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:01:04 -0400 Received: by mail2.openmailbox.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 890102AC0DD0; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 15:00:56 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1439902856; bh=A0NRoRRA4pN2Vsji6zEGdHOyQfCq5ng0WkAshrI576c=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=R1+to55z6jofiMEYQplH5ppo7zkHjccl1M/l5h0un3Nd0FXX684K5wfrOzzq8+ejA aJarmcM7/RAkny9YS6J4DVYgt77oep7DTl9Jd9vbwtpT8G6cDpyKs9Ro9yX3XvFY7c YIlDn5rTb0WEfEKGAWDfRKCa2kvCaHupfQvCRTRk= From: Mark Karpov DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1439902849; bh=A0NRoRRA4pN2Vsji6zEGdHOyQfCq5ng0WkAshrI576c=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=AREPcvSwJuTlKJTPuQj/rXrBfjmb4QBhazJIVAOO85q7i7y8KvlpGS66/NUbzTPRy ReyVvaESGXiMayjk47j7A/nwuEgXcVA4CSziX3Mvskvsxqt3YnB6bH1vLT5F7uRg/B 5MdRYSVGbHPIFnt+Hr2hxnGl2z5kPhWbt0F4CRwg= To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.0.50; Setting =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98blink-matching-delay=E2=80=99?= has no effect Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:55:47 +0600 Message-ID: <87zj1olprg.fsf@openmailbox.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Setting =E2=80=98blink-matching-delay=E2=80=99 has no effect: (setq blink-matching-delay 0.5) ; 1 second delay is used (setq blink-matching-delay 3) ; still 1 second delay is used I read source code and saw that =E2=80=98sit-for=E2=80=99 is used to implem= ent delay. I've tested it and it works with floating point arguments as well as any integer arguments on my system. In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.16 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.16.6) of 2015-08-11 on arch Repository revision: acde89a2088180831e506d0c4255b306a339e291 Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11702000 Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: H Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t interactive-haskell-mode: t haskell-indentation-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t hl-todo-mode: t flycheck-mode: t flyspell-mode: t whitespace-mode: t yas-global-mode: t yas-minor-mode: t show-paren-mode: t minibuffer-electric-default-mode: t ido-vertical-mode: t ido-ubiquitous-mode: t ido-everywhere: t highlight-line-mode: t global-auto-revert-mode: t global-aggressive-indent-mode: t display-time-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t ace-popup-menu-mode: t smartparens-global-mode: t smartparens-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t auto-fill-function: do-auto-fill transient-mark-mode: t auto-fill-mode: 1 Recent messages: Reading active file from archive via nnfolder...done Reading active file via nndraft...done Checking new news...done Are you sure you want to quit reading news? (y or n) y Saving file /home/mark/.newsrc... Wrote /home/mark/.newsrc Saving /home/mark/.newsrc.eld... Saving file /home/mark/.newsrc.eld... Wrote /home/mark/.newsrc.eld Saving /home/mark/.newsrc.eld...done Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (browse-url gnus-draft gnus-async gnus-ml disp-table nndraft nnmh nnfolder utf-7 gnus-agent gnus-srvr gnus-score score-mode nnvirtual gnus-msg gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 mm-view mml-smime smime dig mailcap nntp gnus-cache gnus-sum gnus-group gnus-undo gnus-start gnus-cloud nnimap nnmail mail-source utf7 netrc nnoo parse-time gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range gnus-win gnus gnus-ems nnheader wid-edit epa-file epa derived epg gnutls network-stream nsm starttls tls mailalias smtpmail qp shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mail-utils eieio-opt speedbar sb-image ezimage dframe misearch multi-isearch jka-compr ace-window vc vc-dispatcher haskell-doc inf-haskell haskell-decl-scan imenu shell pcomplete haskell haskell-completions haskell-load haskell-commands highlight-uses-mode haskell-modules haskell-sandbox haskell-repl haskell-debug haskell-interactive-mode haskell-presentation-mode haskell-collapse haskell-navigate-imports haskell-compile haskell-process haskell-session url-util url-parse auth-source gnus-util mm-util mail-prsvr password-cache url-vars json haskell-indentation haskell-font-lock smartparens-haskell haskell-mode haskell-string haskell-sort-imports haskell-lexeme haskell-align-imports haskell-compat haskell-complete-module noutline outline flymake etags xref project eieio eieio-core compile comint dabbrev ansi-color hl-line dired help-fns vc-git diff-mode bookmark pp rainbow-delimiters hl-todo flycheck-haskell haskell-cabal haskell-utils haskell-customize flycheck find-func rx flyspell ispell whitespace mk-visual solarized-dark-theme solarized mk-texinfo mk-tex mk-python mk-prolog mk-org mk-markdown mk-man mk-magit mk-lisp mk-ibuffer mk-haskell mk-gnus mk-eshell mk-erc mk-elisp mk-dired mk-diff mk-clojure kill-or-bury-alive mk-calendar mk-c mk-bookmark mk-minor-modes common-lisp-snippets yasnippet cl whole-line-or-region paren minibuf-eldef ido-vertical-mode ido-ubiquitous ido-completing-read+ cl-macs gv ido highlight-line autorevert filenotify cl-seq aggressive-indent easy-mmode time delsel ace-popup-menu smartparens-config smartparens byte-opt thingatpt mk-global edmacro kmacro ace-link avy ring misc server mk-utils subr-x f dash s ucs-normalize finder-inf tex-site fix-word advice slime-autoloads info bytecomp byte-compile cl-extra help-mode seq cl-loaddefs pcase cl-lib cconv package easymenu epg-config time-date mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese charscript case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote dbusbind gfilenotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 480903 153698) (symbols 48 44382 35) (miscs 40 215 1655) (strings 32 96076 66922) (string-bytes 1 2845438) (vectors 16 68692) (vector-slots 8 1900428 168005) (floats 8 592 1757) (intervals 56 2701 733) (buffers 976 33) (heap 1024 61611 7446)) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 18 09:51:07 2015 Received: (at 21286) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2015 13:51:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58880 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRhIB-00007y-Fi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:51:07 -0400 Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com ([209.85.217.181]:33650) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRhI9-00007m-8D for 21286@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:51:05 -0400 Received: by lbbsx3 with SMTP id sx3so103374901lbb.0 for <21286@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 06:51:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NNcLoXNVnO3d2LA9tWAkWvWIFiTL+48Fe5oW13/Llxw=; b=XQ+1Oa/c1K+NsOuFFGnLSkk9R6cAQGXXU7i6jlbIu07tEhb1xKY6hf19B11rj6z9XT LykrM+5soNiwDFrpxp/xnQY3s5KBS46k+0gDqQy4xtrPL07mm4k1t5xMONIBYXJPsnIo kcbhlOJ3pHSNaYo5D78FXKQ6FYIOzXx79MUpmXU5bC3sRCZQVp7i2x39inVsRaXoZ9M5 SIGxKdTI2B89/b/8xZmKaVytjL3E2WtUakTwpAPfsuagRnahaEPw5xvaoLrhekk9pBKA ZomNdz9Y2bvyKP8dXBYGCq7A3tJp4PyhbcBXvLLt22B+ecjE2YJtrH3srnL4djpb+Ayz qoOQ== X-Received: by 10.152.219.172 with SMTP id pp12mr6417345lac.17.1439905864106; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 06:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.190] ([178.252.127.222]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id xl7sm4859860lbb.42.2015.08.18.06.51.02 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 18 Aug 2015 06:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_bug#21286:_25.0.50; _Setting_=e2=80=98blink-matching-d?= =?UTF-8?Q?elay=e2=80=99_has_no_effect?= To: Mark Karpov , 21286@debbugs.gnu.org References: <87zj1olprg.fsf@openmailbox.org> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: <55D33846.6050404@yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:51:02 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:40.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/40.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87zj1olprg.fsf@openmailbox.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21286 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On 08/18/2015 03:55 PM, Mark Karpov wrote: > > Setting ‘blink-matching-delay’ has no effect: > > (setq blink-matching-delay 0.5) ; 1 second delay is used > (setq blink-matching-delay 3) ; still 1 second delay is used Works fine here. I see an appropriate delay as set above. Try reproducing it starting with 'emacs -Q'. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 18 10:06:43 2015 Received: (at 21286) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2015 14:06:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59061 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRhXG-0000XA-OO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:06:42 -0400 Received: from smtp12.openmailbox.org ([62.4.1.46]:38188) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRhXD-0000Wy-VY for 21286@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:06:40 -0400 Received: by mail2.openmailbox.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81C402AC0DE0; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:06:38 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1439906798; bh=HRwxqIlGkt65YL8pjmTeYljMFkqta6I5UF0xBQQRvvw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=YPmFKBgbaHs+3P30mIlos6mq0MQK8Kzoys+AEsTWsKbeOG1zMQlXkdEV4ip8cFfHR AP5H5Xj9Q3Q5FLeYK2Rupm8wyNuEhm14PcJUJmw1rdeXaRfRGOX8f1Pkw9E7+P6+6T yB9R5SCyAv4KO3XY7NOh6/PnnUcyiSvyBrNhn3aA= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on openmailbox-b2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 From: Mark Karpov DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1439906791; bh=HRwxqIlGkt65YL8pjmTeYljMFkqta6I5UF0xBQQRvvw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=gGBBBwEPTEEzHM/fy4230vuRSsjhh74JeqrFoTHKxPuparDlSvTVVfnOYc+BbpU3T u0u7vTkRrOwRbFSxkM2JkMqMq//9OGBP19UjxL/yW4qdsS390q/wSfTFJcCZ2gJQjW Gjzug/7Z4TxItLMVV8+IIi4WJC7uIHpU9HjqnJKk= To: Dmitry Gutov Subject: Re: bug#21286: 25.0.50; Setting =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98blink-matching?= =?utf-8?Q?-delay=E2=80=99?= has no effect References: <87zj1olprg.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D33846.6050404@yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:01:28 +0600 In-Reply-To: <55D33846.6050404@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:51:02 +0300") Message-ID: <87twrwlmpz.fsf@openmailbox.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21286 Cc: 21286@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 08/18/2015 03:55 PM, Mark Karpov wrote: >> >> Setting =E2=80=98blink-matching-delay=E2=80=99 has no effect: >> >> (setq blink-matching-delay 0.5) ; 1 second delay is used >> (setq blink-matching-delay 3) ; still 1 second delay is used > > Works fine here. I see an appropriate delay as set above. > > Try reproducing it starting with 'emacs -Q'. Doesn't work for me even with =E2=80=98emacs -Q=E2=80=99. Are you sure you = are seeing 0.5 second delay? Here is how I test it: 1. Start Emacs with =E2=80=98-Q=E2=80=99 flag. 2. Evaluate: (setq blink-matching-delay 0.5) 3. Re-check its value and description: =E2=80=98C-h v blink-matching-delay = RET=E2=80=99. 4. Open some file with long data within parentheses, scroll down so you don't see opening parenthesis. 5. Delete closing parenthesis and type it manually. 6. Period of time for which opening parenthesis is shown is always 1 second. You can set it to 5 seconds, it will be 1 second no matter what. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 18 11:33:26 2015 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2015 15:33:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59142 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRitC-0002f1-3N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:33:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56977) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRit9-0002et-QW for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:33:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRit8-0000P7-LO for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:33:23 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:57468) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRit8-0000Or-Ia for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:33:22 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRit5-0006mq-NZ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:33:20 -0400 Subject: control message for bug 21287 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.99.98) Message-Id: From: Glenn Morris Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:33:19 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.10 X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) merge 21286 21287 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 18 12:09:04 2015 Received: (at 21286-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2015 16:09:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59154 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRjRf-00052v-MU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:09:03 -0400 Received: from mail-lb0-f177.google.com ([209.85.217.177]:33352) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRjRd-00052V-G0 for 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:09:02 -0400 Received: by lbbsx3 with SMTP id sx3so106242969lbb.0 for <21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:09:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Wcu6STR+pQmwOzRhLN7XjdPekcpD6QrC6YS3JXW2o4A=; b=tRvL2Oz33Hfc7qTKrOgFLcXtrgWPZAoY8AS2cMjtX+zl0irsnjm8r5GJDGIhb5JSSQ XofIiI66TsvtdN6mVvTKj8Pf6t8VXLrMm8isup7wZiPH5t/dRc0agprREJM04scinLkW 8IlFUcpTak66Ez9cYTYQN4VpCWVmtFX4cELKOAeSQeWw6Jr3+dx6c7ySA80jbFFsiohg oZpsYywU6wUGtpcyw4hfiPkFZ/dJs6F1vfS4220Nx2dz+AeqB8URa+HuxypPDnISCLRv lQ9CQ2AhgB9nzctOW9EK5+oTvR8POxkAlaCN0784bSaqpnkgeqEoHJsAEec4zHYMtH7c klMw== X-Received: by 10.152.21.103 with SMTP id u7mr6746464lae.49.1439914140625; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.190] ([178.252.127.222]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id au10sm4980045lbc.1.2015.08.18.09.08.59 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:08:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_bug#21286:_25.0.50; _Setting_=e2=80=98blink-matching-d?= =?UTF-8?Q?elay=e2=80=99_has_no_effect?= To: Mark Karpov References: <87zj1olprg.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D33846.6050404@yandex.ru> <87twrwlmpz.fsf@openmailbox.org> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: <55D3589A.70603@yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:08:58 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:40.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/40.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87twrwlmpz.fsf@openmailbox.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21286-done Cc: Pontus Michael , 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Noah Friedman X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On 08/18/2015 05:01 PM, Mark Karpov wrote: > 4. Open some file with long data within parentheses, scroll down so you > don't see opening parenthesis. So this is about the case when you don't see it. You haven't mentioned this before. The behavior you're describing was a recent regression, and it was fixed in b892438d7 (yesterday). I've touched up on that fix now, but either way should work for you. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 18 13:39:36 2015 Received: (at 21286-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2015 17:39:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59585 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRkrI-0007Nn-3i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:39:36 -0400 Received: from smtp1.openmailbox.org ([62.4.1.35]:49826) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRkrG-0007Nf-2q for 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:39:34 -0400 Received: by mail2.openmailbox.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E16632AC0EA5; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:39:32 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1439919572; bh=SD80AK6S0+6UNnkk0hUiM/wey/DBw5yu95F4XO1Zm2U=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Q3r5fjnfwDHCQwUY7Nd+0maZ9bvnvc6C5kOD8vwcORVXexqIyszwIr5fSjZZFyEJL I5QgiEWG6LlLLSwAiiTwsZTlE0bZBOMYZdY8PBKNCxt+9T5uBSzmA4ywJiMwVmGEFi 9dtFo3zqgJ4tYSgbzy7w8yRVJDZMk4EFX0TVhRk4= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on openmailbox-b2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 From: Mark Karpov DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1439919572; bh=SD80AK6S0+6UNnkk0hUiM/wey/DBw5yu95F4XO1Zm2U=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Q3r5fjnfwDHCQwUY7Nd+0maZ9bvnvc6C5kOD8vwcORVXexqIyszwIr5fSjZZFyEJL I5QgiEWG6LlLLSwAiiTwsZTlE0bZBOMYZdY8PBKNCxt+9T5uBSzmA4ywJiMwVmGEFi 9dtFo3zqgJ4tYSgbzy7w8yRVJDZMk4EFX0TVhRk4= To: Dmitry Gutov Subject: Re: bug#21286: 25.0.50; Setting =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98blink-matching?= =?utf-8?Q?-delay=E2=80=99?= has no effect References: <87zj1olprg.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D33846.6050404@yandex.ru> <87twrwlmpz.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D3589A.70603@yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 23:34:28 +0600 In-Reply-To: <55D3589A.70603@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:08:58 +0300") Message-ID: <8737zgmrff.fsf@openmailbox.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21286-done Cc: Pontus Michael , 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Noah Friedman X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) I've pulled/rebuilded Emacs. Now it doesn't just to opening parenthesis at all. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 18 13:41:54 2015 Received: (at 21286-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2015 17:41:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59657 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRktV-0007TR-Sa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:41:54 -0400 Received: from mail-la0-f52.google.com ([209.85.215.52]:36311) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRktU-0007TK-6h for 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:41:52 -0400 Received: by lagz9 with SMTP id z9so104287642lag.3 for <21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:41:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mLix951cY7kTJB4RBBdTecuVORLtAUwJcOBMaPFUorA=; b=zRfnDwupUu8UWheHxSjN+9umsWTmYPsE62yOIb9RWa+cSxk168/y3fJnblrtXIAuLm fWPQAAjIfEamM8M1fGAK23f3Clgdtq90MscUdyoB2aKkuVTapbTFnHrc96Zswf+zp+g9 iZQ8RB9wTEUuZtVdU1C3dvfMRnursX/FKJpZML0CFj7jeMnmp6U7h5zEaZRx1ShaFKWL WhO/oAqvXkS37xOZQ2R+Q3XOUzaQZ4gZzLbVjPk1AeA05nOXeD3npdC2NGJT5N3eJeyC 3T4uyq2dB0HsCuckz2qKBi7QbnWZGIEuC16a6IxoXGn8XPsTp1+1ervSm4r1dyI0Hq60 BzXw== X-Received: by 10.112.35.163 with SMTP id i3mr7356192lbj.4.1439919711296; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.190] ([178.252.127.222]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id pl1sm5041835lbc.30.2015.08.18.10.41.50 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 18 Aug 2015 10:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_bug#21286:_25.0.50; _Setting_=e2=80=98blink-matching-d?= =?UTF-8?Q?elay=e2=80=99_has_no_effect?= To: Mark Karpov References: <87zj1olprg.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D33846.6050404@yandex.ru> <87twrwlmpz.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D3589A.70603@yandex.ru> <8737zgmrff.fsf@openmailbox.org> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: <55D36E5D.30002@yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:41:49 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:40.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/40.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8737zgmrff.fsf@openmailbox.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21286-done Cc: Pontus Michael , 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Noah Friedman X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On 08/18/2015 08:34 PM, Mark Karpov wrote: > > I've pulled/rebuilded Emacs. Now it doesn't just to opening parenthesis > at all. It does, as long as the opening paren is visible in the current window. That has always been its behavior. If the opening paren is not visible, its line is merely displayed in the echo area. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 18 13:50:47 2015 Received: (at 21286-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2015 17:50:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59692 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRl27-0007iT-72 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:50:47 -0400 Received: from smtp6.openmailbox.org ([62.4.1.40]:60551) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRl24-0007iI-DE for 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:50:45 -0400 Received: by mail2.openmailbox.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 894CE2AC0E5A; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:50:43 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1439920243; bh=hM4YKxeS69KJCtPpM3FQIq0PZZfonGfUiPHkOKO1+as=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=GQECGkau/6bEwdeRz1fVcW+WbuOa3jm88K0R9nXjuk6Y6wcrV7BDHszX2sryo9s4Q 9BkoWAbqv9xLoNJDrcjnKZMMXCPkfQbWDallRi+kONh/SXktmt+SJ7daV7We+DxhxJ NuYR7/mn82+/fPzYjbzyE9BOaiU65wsFTyEe9YgU= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on openmailbox-b2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 From: Mark Karpov DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1439920240; bh=hM4YKxeS69KJCtPpM3FQIq0PZZfonGfUiPHkOKO1+as=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=wzzyiEEOF/RMXEKZ75611736QE8F4td2MBNF7J8tr0UecfeSDjoDnyS8hYxbPNDJO FviILP6B/oCzVwVow0yF36HMuK5pyYAtRBuM6GT15dqysgROUD1/lpwsj5jNejMz3y TLWrOUhzT1/6Z1AmYTIcJwWMf3m+eZkBZS6wTGgY= To: Dmitry Gutov Subject: Re: bug#21286: 25.0.50; Setting =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98blink-matching?= =?utf-8?Q?-delay=E2=80=99?= has no effect References: <87zj1olprg.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D33846.6050404@yandex.ru> <87twrwlmpz.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D3589A.70603@yandex.ru> <8737zgmrff.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D36E5D.30002@yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 23:45:36 +0600 In-Reply-To: <55D36E5D.30002@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:41:49 +0300") Message-ID: <87mvxoze0v.fsf@openmailbox.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21286-done Cc: Pontus Michael , 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Noah Friedman X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 08/18/2015 08:34 PM, Mark Karpov wrote: >> >> I've pulled/rebuilded Emacs. Now it doesn't just to opening parenthesis >> at all. > > It does, as long as the opening paren is visible in the current window. That > has always been its behavior. > > If the opening paren is not visible, its line is merely displayed in the > echo area. Strange. I tried in combination with: (setq blink-matching-paren 'jump) Nothing seem to produce that effect, I really liked it. I can't believe this handy behavior was not intentional and now it's lost. If that behavior that I liked so much was sort of bug, consider adding it as a feature. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 18 16:32:28 2015 Received: (at 21286-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2015 20:32:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60006 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRnYa-0004yO-Nn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:32:28 -0400 Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com ([209.85.217.169]:35303) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRnYZ-0004yG-I4 for 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:32:28 -0400 Received: by lbcbn3 with SMTP id bn3so110397656lbc.2 for <21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:32:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4XrbFrEeBkrf/wtvwsnrcnHzd5qqo5OxIlXEfGCvM1s=; b=RWE+npUqMKAEpJoWwUDGIpXhP6OCHKU4lu60eAYwjBflet1yTaMBeeNeT0FmbewlEn ekTA31sDeaWZ8pIMnU3QdUpwRF2ZXoTLUImxU08nsCVivkILsqfJvoOzB+BQbF623kBo 8RbXvQ0r00OGazBoDdek4izcP/yLtAcL4+OqVopK2FIORTKbcI3j7xSZyplhchCOZEmW XeTCpVtvYQIwuKG1Homs1icaw2HCrhxXQSZRaoBZTCZb+mvpKzwsvf1fR0dMn9dXzfza pd6jNKWslHT7e9r2yHNt/E3A9kqKazhSH5hdX7EQQrcuEW3+/1Haz+ogWzD0VfbwK+Ck MkdQ== X-Received: by 10.152.234.75 with SMTP id uc11mr7892291lac.20.1439929946792; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.190] ([178.252.127.222]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id db9sm275041lad.11.2015.08.18.13.32.25 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_bug#21286:_25.0.50; _Setting_=e2=80=98blink-matching-d?= =?UTF-8?Q?elay=e2=80=99_has_no_effect?= To: Mark Karpov References: <87zj1olprg.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D33846.6050404@yandex.ru> <87twrwlmpz.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D3589A.70603@yandex.ru> <8737zgmrff.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D36E5D.30002@yandex.ru> <87mvxoze0v.fsf@openmailbox.org> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: <55D39658.9000503@yandex.ru> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 23:32:24 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:40.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/40.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87mvxoze0v.fsf@openmailbox.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21286-done Cc: Pontus Michael , 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Noah Friedman X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On 08/18/2015 08:45 PM, Mark Karpov wrote: > Nothing seem to produce that effect, I really liked it. I can't believe > this handy behavior was not intentional and now it's lost. > > If that behavior that I liked so much was sort of bug, consider adding > it as a feature. All right, you can try (setq blink-matching-paren 'jump-offscreen) now. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 19 05:36:43 2015 Received: (at 21286-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2015 09:36:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60357 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRznW-000192-PW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 05:36:43 -0400 Received: from 62-210-140-24.rev.poneytelecom.eu ([62.210.140.24]:55187 helo=smtp4.openmailbox.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRznU-00018t-P8 for 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 05:36:41 -0400 Received: by mail2.openmailbox.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id C82F07C103B; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:36:39 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1439976999; bh=CkYIggDdMNnYtOpVBeklObjIox006M9mM162APhWYro=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=aX/JvP6q1vVV0xpmgLPKiOmrXs5i0cFfKUOJ05J6myzA2/t3h9V0z8HUkumWziUN0 mbnhr9S5fwW9LsXLy4G5F0Sg9urFwz2cwHDA2zyEN1FhZ65zTatRb1N5E3H72LbIp5 wwFEgKCcVBOwwxvssCH9NH8hCHJWRvW7+FE5T1+s= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on openmailbox-b1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 From: Mark Karpov DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1439976999; bh=CkYIggDdMNnYtOpVBeklObjIox006M9mM162APhWYro=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=aX/JvP6q1vVV0xpmgLPKiOmrXs5i0cFfKUOJ05J6myzA2/t3h9V0z8HUkumWziUN0 mbnhr9S5fwW9LsXLy4G5F0Sg9urFwz2cwHDA2zyEN1FhZ65zTatRb1N5E3H72LbIp5 wwFEgKCcVBOwwxvssCH9NH8hCHJWRvW7+FE5T1+s= To: Dmitry Gutov Subject: Re: bug#21286: 25.0.50; Setting =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98blink-matching?= =?utf-8?Q?-delay=E2=80=99?= has no effect References: <87zj1olprg.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D33846.6050404@yandex.ru> <87twrwlmpz.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D3589A.70603@yandex.ru> <8737zgmrff.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D36E5D.30002@yandex.ru> <87mvxoze0v.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D39658.9000503@yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:31:34 +0600 In-Reply-To: <55D39658.9000503@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 18 Aug 2015 23:32:24 +0300") Message-ID: <87y4h77hft.fsf@openmailbox.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 08/18/2015 08:45 PM, Mark Karpov wrote: > >> Nothing seem to produce that effect, I really liked it. I can't believe >> this handy behavior was not intentional and now it's lost. >> >> If that behavior that I liked so much was sort of bug, consider adding >> it as a feature. > > All right, you can try (setq blink-matching-paren 'jump-offscreen) now. [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 TVD_RCVD_IP Message was received from an IP address 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.4 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to internal network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21286-done Cc: Pontus Michael , 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Noah Friedman X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 08/18/2015 08:45 PM, Mark Karpov wrote: > >> Nothing seem to produce that effect, I really liked it. I can't believe >> this handy behavior was not intentional and now it's lost. >> >> If that behavior that I liked so much was sort of bug, consider adding >> it as a feature. > > All right, you can try (setq blink-matching-paren 'jump-offscreen) now. [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.4 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to internal network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 08/18/2015 08:45 PM, Mark Karpov wrote: > >> Nothing seem to produce that effect, I really liked it. I can't believe >> this handy behavior was not intentional and now it's lost. >> >> If that behavior that I liked so much was sort of bug, consider adding >> it as a feature. > > All right, you can try (setq blink-matching-paren 'jump-offscreen) now. I'm sorry, still doesn't work for me :-( I'm testing it the same way described above, but evaluating (setq blink-matching-paren 'jump-offscreen) after setting of =E2=80=98blink-matching-delay=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 19 05:49:09 2015 Received: (at 21286-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2015 09:49:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60363 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRzzZ-0001Rw-49 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 05:49:09 -0400 Received: from mail-la0-f65.google.com ([209.85.215.65]:33152) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRzzW-0001Rk-QK for 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 05:49:07 -0400 Received: by labqg3 with SMTP id qg3so9872567lab.0 for <21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 02:49:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TwXvGekUNz953pOY4odfUqDPSpR8+zfBfjQ0tZPVNAY=; b=slj4Tzf6UpnNTAK2fP3shBAEgiyB9h8AJhwAhzAQPdEXmivr1MyprbbnsT9rd9CfbZ b3kdUYuExirm46MTOpAbuZG94xqVw4OHJTRo/ykGWPnZ6FDwgR01lX/6rXd4F80uyWgJ SUgLlKKsYcOXdsUO+FdN4F4Amd3N4/0nGG7VGxnJPpN3yrSpWSeu/A4ZZmOY1TdGjl8e hkFRdOlOwZykhZK8vYHOygxHq63x2pwNPGid+8KZByfH0rkXwLL03zdGZDMNjZtUHEJo ZbMgllcq+ZitYbg11iJY8YkTwydOn2G+PvbsdBC7TgUm+ZD/X+knQj9D4rAmc6kYxcNT W5Og== X-Received: by 10.112.144.69 with SMTP id sk5mr10497478lbb.6.1439977745654; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 02:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.190] ([178.252.127.222]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id lb8sm50130lab.16.2015.08.19.02.49.04 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Aug 2015 02:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_bug#21286:_25.0.50; _Setting_=e2=80=98blink-matching-d?= =?UTF-8?Q?elay=e2=80=99_has_no_effect?= To: Mark Karpov References: <87zj1olprg.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D33846.6050404@yandex.ru> <87twrwlmpz.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D3589A.70603@yandex.ru> <8737zgmrff.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D36E5D.30002@yandex.ru> <87mvxoze0v.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D39658.9000503@yandex.ru> <87y4h77hft.fsf@openmailbox.org> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: <55D4510F.7060208@yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:49:03 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:40.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/40.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87y4h77hft.fsf@openmailbox.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21286-done Cc: Pontus Michael , 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Noah Friedman X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On 08/19/2015 12:31 PM, Mark Karpov wrote: > I'm sorry, still doesn't work for me :-( Have you made a pull and (important!) rebuilt Emacs? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 19 06:00:53 2015 Received: (at 21286-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2015 10:00:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60384 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS0Au-0001j0-N9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 06:00:53 -0400 Received: from 62-210-140-24.rev.poneytelecom.eu ([62.210.140.24]:52110 helo=smtp3.openmailbox.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS0As-0001ir-9q for 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 06:00:51 -0400 Received: by mail2.openmailbox.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 8124F7C1046; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:00:49 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1439978449; bh=HajWwJhzueSxz0Wp87nAFoPkwZIC0WSc9Uw3U3IQuqk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Y9vqwYfcFuE+R90+DleBrVZRjhIG1FX69H7WW/SMssisrdguZ9HUQu4q8X4tmHqFq e1BBJADQVnI2hGsg14TwuU+pfPtV8/qOt36GJKNrtzmTRWrS//L15W7rIIrFpzMfk2 2GRIXMswqwMV1YwQ2PE+kCJ6j6/EktJCotJYbstc= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on openmailbox-b1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 From: Mark Karpov DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1439978446; bh=HajWwJhzueSxz0Wp87nAFoPkwZIC0WSc9Uw3U3IQuqk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=mA12MWoK88Bjd2RSquRQIrbzTxSj1oYiM8G1+XcXH0Hk8O2n6h0asL7MSSca7cPrj 2PzZliRfaImmKe+Ug7I+YThmXzYJO6kCucfsuNC9olM5iPMIol7ycFixmE2d+JcL37 WakOUW82Ivn68Jz6/U4qF5VUtLnJdU/RWTyMw4LI= To: Dmitry Gutov Subject: Re: bug#21286: 25.0.50; Setting =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98blink-matching?= =?utf-8?Q?-delay=E2=80=99?= has no effect References: <87zj1olprg.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D33846.6050404@yandex.ru> <87twrwlmpz.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D3589A.70603@yandex.ru> <8737zgmrff.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D36E5D.30002@yandex.ru> <87mvxoze0v.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D39658.9000503@yandex.ru> <87y4h77hft.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D4510F.7060208@yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:55:42 +0600 In-Reply-To: <55D4510F.7060208@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:49:03 +0300") Message-ID: <87pp2jiov5.fsf@openmailbox.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Dmitry Gutov writes: > Have you made a pull and (important!) rebuilt Emacs? Yes, of course. I'm sure I'm using Emacs with your recent changes, because ‘C-h v blink-matching-paren RET’ results in: [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 TVD_RCVD_IP Message was received from an IP address 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.4 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to internal network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21286-done Cc: Pontus Michael , 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Noah Friedman X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Dmitry Gutov writes: > Have you made a pull and (important!) rebuilt Emacs? Yes, of course. I'm sure I'm using Emacs with your recent changes, because ‘C-h v blink-matching-paren RET’ results in: [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.4 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to internal network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid Dmitry Gutov writes: > Have you made a pull and (important!) rebuilt Emacs? Yes, of course. I'm sure I'm using Emacs with your recent changes, because =E2=80=98C-h v blink-matching-paren RET=E2=80=99 results in: blink-matching-paren is a variable defined in =E2=80=98simple.el=E2=80=99. Its value is jump-offscreen Original value was t =20=20 Documentation: Non-nil means show matching open-paren when close-paren is inserted. If t, highlight the paren. If =E2=80=98jump=E2=80=99, briefly move curso= r to its position. If =E2=80=98jump-offscreen=E2=80=99, move cursor there even if= the position is off screen. With any other non-nil value, the off-screen position of the opening paren will be shown in the echo area. =20=20 You can customize this variable. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 19 06:13:59 2015 Received: (at 21286-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2015 10:13:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60418 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS0Nb-00021i-4e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 06:13:59 -0400 Received: from mail-lb0-f173.google.com ([209.85.217.173]:35728) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS0NY-00021Y-Fh for 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 06:13:57 -0400 Received: by lbcbn3 with SMTP id bn3so34838lbc.2 for <21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 03:13:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KyKAvgGX3BfHdXWR7xY+0iZyCa2VHrfFJmhA9O0buGk=; b=m/qip4/SlBHmHa2sodEhAOxvR3v5XzoRUA5RfrNYHYJPzd1Gtex13B5i66n2UyuT/B 4I1PliernYWp9Waa6fd16VAth3IuSKy0DaMB9Gl1uY7xUdsM4c/PwtFwSlAipHhv9ajy r3/rnfi1wmIX/1eDzfv53dkGnxMH3l6NQE94UtD0eW8dVlt8nHyVpxjpAzsbQJBvlSCe LnWXxwJLMOwLgRV2JhQoResNk++7ngIzja2Nngi3+d/35Cxhf1RCcsol1ducKaxPAKYG GNkYvDGcUApHIS6cJTibAMqHRde4laKMKl6zVdTCCYEwH4ZvPMzLbBbYcnDBxa93PZ9x yBBg== X-Received: by 10.112.77.168 with SMTP id t8mr10610709lbw.70.1439979235645; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 03:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.190] ([178.252.127.222]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id c5sm60753lae.47.2015.08.19.03.13.46 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Aug 2015 03:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_bug#21286:_25.0.50; _Setting_=e2=80=98blink-matching-d?= =?UTF-8?Q?elay=e2=80=99_has_no_effect?= To: Mark Karpov References: <87zj1olprg.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D33846.6050404@yandex.ru> <87twrwlmpz.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D3589A.70603@yandex.ru> <8737zgmrff.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D36E5D.30002@yandex.ru> <87mvxoze0v.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D39658.9000503@yandex.ru> <87y4h77hft.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D4510F.7060208@yandex.ru> <87pp2jiov5.fsf@openmailbox.org> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: <55D456DA.40009@yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:13:46 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:40.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/40.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87pp2jiov5.fsf@openmailbox.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21286-done Cc: 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On 08/19/2015 12:55 PM, Mark Karpov wrote: > Yes, of course. I'm sure I'm using Emacs with your recent changes, > because ‘C-h v blink-matching-paren RET’ results in: You should try 'make bootstrap' anyway. And what doesn't work for you exactly? The jump offscreen, or customizing its delay value? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 19 06:22:25 2015 Received: (at 21286) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2015 10:22:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60422 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS0Vl-0002Dk-B3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 06:22:25 -0400 Received: from 62-210-140-24.rev.poneytelecom.eu ([62.210.140.24]:40400 helo=smtp11.openmailbox.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS0Vj-0002Db-6L for 21286@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 06:22:24 -0400 Received: by mail2.openmailbox.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 84CFD7C1055; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:22:22 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1439979742; bh=cHqI1y7N8YchF/YtXkQA3FrxiWQtJum6UzPZ1higETk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=ip328t8MOMW4oSVXiHpEGlymbKrF9cNO8pT4+GS6b6ZmSGmgRxbwxjMKsKZFPMctZ d70WVdTaxMQSPJOA6tc4K2fCzN5CSoptZdE+KSFmvPk3kk7zRwFH09wrj/n7tMrVfO R8qU+pzcYyN5mKQdiU59gkEWZ2FffJpwbn0Uk6Dc= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on openmailbox-b1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 From: Mark Karpov DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1439979739; bh=cHqI1y7N8YchF/YtXkQA3FrxiWQtJum6UzPZ1higETk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=u1OZN92v6VjvsTMw6CW2/bR9a8TalIFqKrPl30BLoxYxpfcwIoJpgKz/wxejHk2IQ HvQy6MChP96+vYy8uXLccRdTrSoPfxGxVzuAxjjfj1jieUsRNBDjIFJEbJtrafdn4B M56q/F8kCTDXEDtHTL5hxp5k/Hy9w4NyV8fr95wM= To: Dmitry Gutov Subject: Re: bug#21286: 25.0.50; Setting =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98blink-matching?= =?utf-8?Q?-delay=E2=80=99?= has no effect References: <87zj1olprg.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D33846.6050404@yandex.ru> <87twrwlmpz.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D3589A.70603@yandex.ru> <8737zgmrff.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D36E5D.30002@yandex.ru> <87mvxoze0v.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D39658.9000503@yandex.ru> <87y4h77hft.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D4510F.7060208@yandex.ru> <87pp2jiov5.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D456DA.40009@yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:17:15 +0600 In-Reply-To: <55D456DA.40009@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:13:46 +0300") Message-ID: <87lhd7inv8.fsf@openmailbox.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Dmitry Gutov writes: > And what doesn't work for you exactly? The jump offscreen, or customizing > its delay value? Nevermind, I just rechecked it with ‘-Q’ flag. It works! Everything works: delay time and jumping. Thank you. I need to investigate why it doesn't work with my configuration… [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 TVD_RCVD_IP Message was received from an IP address 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.4 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to internal network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21286 Cc: 21286@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Dmitry Gutov writes: > And what doesn't work for you exactly? The jump offscreen, or customizing > its delay value? Nevermind, I just rechecked it with ‘-Q’ flag. It works! Everything works: delay time and jumping. Thank you. I need to investigate why it doesn't work with my configuration… [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.4 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to internal network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid Dmitry Gutov writes: > And what doesn't work for you exactly? The jump offscreen, or customizing > its delay value? Nevermind, I just rechecked it with =E2=80=98-Q=E2=80=99 flag. It works! Ev= erything works: delay time and jumping. Thank you. I need to investigate why it doesn't work with my configuration=E2=80=A6 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 19 06:28:37 2015 Received: (at 21286-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2015 10:28:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60427 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS0bl-0002Ob-Ff for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 06:28:37 -0400 Received: from 62-210-140-24.rev.poneytelecom.eu ([62.210.140.24]:33150 helo=smtp6.openmailbox.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS0bj-0002OS-GH for 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 06:28:35 -0400 Received: by mail2.openmailbox.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 155EC7C105A; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:28:35 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1439980115; bh=uGUWOtiw6Wfn9ZHJfhAEcpv96otrOvLcLQ/1ARyhHTw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=G7cb1XRRAyXb992S9PLJVsqgmB9tB3/ZOCLblYWlQ21wioMxmvU3sO5h993LzUC7o TuGDUom5PpDyhG+xdhc79npWda0P08E6/5hvrM3r4uF5iSZ5WqWzVP+B9asSEGyZRI fzLzC2Efe/bwOdwTyNKEWQMIyBZ2Q8Jvr8VTm6TM= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on openmailbox-b1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 From: Mark Karpov DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1439980114; bh=uGUWOtiw6Wfn9ZHJfhAEcpv96otrOvLcLQ/1ARyhHTw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=vSzJhQQtLGyYn9s/NV487lNKx5jp7VjJnoC4FoIDq/hDkYt/V9O6RyK9zuo4eEu5t s3xKsBjjgj43uWFrPJwV4gq3VZZUK8W+5YyzDYjlICQpyYrnN/0WYHnbaZ+AhtGlA5 p/VV/gPdeNPvIrbhvCVGCFeTlLGmkOMv9IHQacmE= To: Dmitry Gutov Subject: Re: bug#21286: 25.0.50; Setting =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98blink-matching?= =?utf-8?Q?-delay=E2=80=99?= has no effect References: <87zj1olprg.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D33846.6050404@yandex.ru> <87twrwlmpz.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D3589A.70603@yandex.ru> <8737zgmrff.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D36E5D.30002@yandex.ru> <87mvxoze0v.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D39658.9000503@yandex.ru> <87y4h77hft.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D4510F.7060208@yandex.ru> <87pp2jiov5.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D456DA.40009@yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:23:30 +0600 In-Reply-To: <55D456DA.40009@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:13:46 +0300") Message-ID: <87vbcby3tp.fsf@openmailbox.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Now I know that it doesn't work when ‘show-paren-mode’ is enabled. I would like to use this blinking feature together with ‘show-paren-mode’. Is it possible? [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 TVD_RCVD_IP Message was received from an IP address 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.4 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to internal network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21286-done Cc: 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Now I know that it doesn't work when ‘show-paren-mode’ is enabled. I would like to use this blinking feature together with ‘show-paren-mode’. Is it possible? [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.4 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to internal network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid Now I know that it doesn't work when =E2=80=98show-paren-mode=E2=80=99 is e= nabled. I would like to use this blinking feature together with =E2=80=98show-paren-mode=E2=80=99. Is it possible? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 19 08:23:41 2015 Received: (at 21286-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2015 12:23:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60471 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS2P6-0006XR-Sk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 08:23:41 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com ([209.85.212.178]:34779) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS2P5-0006XJ-Gp for 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 08:23:39 -0400 Received: by wicne3 with SMTP id ne3so125437531wic.1 for <21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 05:23:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=w/+8/p8XcT+zmij8X4gy+Em/r2jHZ18lSRTcNlH8zuE=; b=fFuB9fwJAKDSQnWI8ihPr3giGQbBU8kvlVprdBD+6aRCtHtgt51qknaRlaC3/1k8Ns UF3Vd74XPWllZiegccMyT6HCjRUzdrwyqbWkSKdFyM7+MTF1HWDgtpvsUWIHxYDnO9N5 jfXYW6hTEH+typtGqilDR0H0kGGsJCdwMh98q72QcMqkm5V335W5qas8oZu7CPVJ6nsk 5iVNUpsSvuHuRhHeWodhkb9N6OPAlICT0SUxIfkb7tm+eRdtyZ+yRP5bcd50k53lSRak Ts7ZfDLtgukI+DV2KquBjSMjSBuEPhT9PJ1rdCwNIzrN+qkx+Y6FMF9QMA3U8nTt263Y sp7w== X-Received: by 10.181.13.204 with SMTP id fa12mr5216997wid.24.1439987018797; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 05:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.9.0.103] (nat.webazilla.com. [78.140.128.228]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id c3sm846533wja.3.2015.08.19.05.23.37 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Aug 2015 05:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_bug#21286:_25.0.50; _Setting_=e2=80=98blink-matching-d?= =?UTF-8?Q?elay=e2=80=99_has_no_effect?= To: Mark Karpov References: <87zj1olprg.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D33846.6050404@yandex.ru> <87twrwlmpz.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D3589A.70603@yandex.ru> <8737zgmrff.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D36E5D.30002@yandex.ru> <87mvxoze0v.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D39658.9000503@yandex.ru> <87y4h77hft.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D4510F.7060208@yandex.ru> <87pp2jiov5.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D456DA.40009@yandex.ru> <87vbcby3tp.fsf@openmailbox.org> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: <55D47548.80003@yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:23:36 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:40.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/40.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87vbcby3tp.fsf@openmailbox.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21286-done Cc: 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On 08/19/2015 01:23 PM, Mark Karpov wrote: > > Now I know that it doesn't work when ‘show-paren-mode’ is enabled. I > would like to use this blinking feature together with > ‘show-paren-mode’. Is it possible? Sorry, it's too much for me to get into right now. But this should probably be implemented in show-paren-mode. Please file a separate bug with this feature request. And please clarify: the way it works now, are you going to use `jump-offscreen'? If not, I'm going to revert that commit. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 19 08:32:35 2015 Received: (at 21286-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2015 12:32:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60479 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS2Xi-0006kw-Ks for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 08:32:34 -0400 Received: from smtp3.openmailbox.org ([62.4.1.37]:37281) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS2Xe-0006kl-4q for 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 08:32:31 -0400 Received: by mail2.openmailbox.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F7BC2AC10C5; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:32:29 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1439987549; bh=JM59LTwZVO1dqKssXxrFt30IQ1CUDBElcc0eEKMQja4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=R1SMoCzzf3wygWntA0YP4MT+OKFUuGJuNTKI9cmRLBWnDiBXm9dqfsndGKJnl3Ieq M5J/lVshSBJ7qTTwki1UYFJz1xr7/wUktOz4XCYSq+CD/mSitC0/1eIwpsOYfcBDhh cPZYBXVGZMAWajoaSv4tNYQuTZmri3zZMo2JJjOM= X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on openmailbox-b2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 From: Mark Karpov DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1439987548; bh=JM59LTwZVO1dqKssXxrFt30IQ1CUDBElcc0eEKMQja4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=NLLQvr8VlzIYf4xRVdS50jL4lqz7KXQESuiBAb0KX/9T2647j9c5OXflFwAHAUvuH eoosxTUO++GUZtLvgMrPEnj78PM7VlwT7qBEhGNnnegHCNTM19tBmhGZFJjxazJ1U4 mGWe1FFDr4cANlsTGjcAUMHx+0wRJzRyvC21rnjU= To: Dmitry Gutov Subject: Re: bug#21286: 25.0.50; Setting =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98blink-matching?= =?utf-8?Q?-delay=E2=80=99?= has no effect References: <87zj1olprg.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D33846.6050404@yandex.ru> <87twrwlmpz.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D3589A.70603@yandex.ru> <8737zgmrff.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D36E5D.30002@yandex.ru> <87mvxoze0v.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D39658.9000503@yandex.ru> <87y4h77hft.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D4510F.7060208@yandex.ru> <87pp2jiov5.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D456DA.40009@yandex.ru> <87vbcby3tp.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D47548.80003@yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:27:23 +0600 In-Reply-To: <55D47548.80003@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:23:36 +0300") Message-ID: <87r3mzxy38.fsf@openmailbox.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21286-done Cc: 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Dmitry Gutov writes: > Sorry, it's too much for me to get into right now. > > But this should probably be implemented in show-paren-mode. Please file a > separate bug with this feature request. > > And please clarify: the way it works now, are you going to use > `jump-offscreen'? If not, I'm going to revert that commit. Please don't revert it! This is very useful feature (make sure it is mentioned in the docs). =E2=80=9CAs is=E2=80=9D, this is already very good thing that works flawles= sly until you activate =E2=80=98show-paren-mode=E2=80=99. I will send separate bug report= , I hope this will work fine in combination with that mode. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 19 10:25:25 2015 Received: (at 21286-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2015 14:25:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32771 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS4Iv-000125-GD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 10:25:25 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com ([209.85.212.170]:35978) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS4It-00011w-5D for 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 10:25:23 -0400 Received: by wicja10 with SMTP id ja10so121691638wic.1 for <21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:25:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FiNjNUM1Wx1+1oLhcxXS+pLe3TFL1p6y7JlzzHITMwU=; b=yfS2HVEHA+b2vIeendgYn8+/kmFLlf+ayO4BtodTdDy1cf7PWO/kmcnETHV1ohbkTE BzhXHrRsZNACaYDqH9kPU8vjsc4U9EAdNu+83KojPyE0bottCnoltobRFtELf1Baow6P p7L0bPCshvcLqXDFdu3NcGWwjJYxdrWOhIoDcUjxawzjpF5gPHcB5+zTGjhO68cDQxNe ENIowZy1uqtFvMP+r3xGzLzFlqe75rp0TmxUj8NOy/Mm3zeDT/oY4bbd14aC8REPNQQd 7fCBXVVI/GhpnZJIVO4cUMFFNHPYR1Pns9oU7EKszNpeV3YqP5zhtjapuP4moofK2hLT dDIw== X-Received: by 10.181.25.234 with SMTP id it10mr3741596wid.0.1439994322589; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.9.0.103] (nat.webazilla.com. [78.140.128.228]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id pe1sm26255916wic.20.2015.08.19.07.25.21 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_bug#21286:_25.0.50; _Setting_=e2=80=98blink-matching-d?= =?UTF-8?Q?elay=e2=80=99_has_no_effect?= To: Mark Karpov References: <87zj1olprg.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D33846.6050404@yandex.ru> <87twrwlmpz.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D3589A.70603@yandex.ru> <8737zgmrff.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D36E5D.30002@yandex.ru> <87mvxoze0v.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D39658.9000503@yandex.ru> <87y4h77hft.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D4510F.7060208@yandex.ru> <87pp2jiov5.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D456DA.40009@yandex.ru> <87vbcby3tp.fsf@openmailbox.org> <55D47548.80003@yandex.ru> <87r3mzxy38.fsf@openmailbox.org> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: <55D491D0.2070000@yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:25:20 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:40.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/40.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87r3mzxy38.fsf@openmailbox.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21286-done Cc: 21286-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On 08/19/2015 03:27 PM, Mark Karpov wrote: > Please don't revert it! This is very useful feature (make sure it is > mentioned in the docs). It's mentioned. > “As is”, this is already very good thing that works flawlessly until you > activate ‘show-paren-mode’. I will send separate bug report, I hope this > will work fine in combination with that mode. My point is, the relevant show-paren-mode behavior will most likely be predicated on a different variable. So that latest change (that I would revert) won't help it in the least. From unknown Sat Aug 09 13:07:51 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator