From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21274: 25.0.50; epa doesn't understand GPG's default-key option Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 13:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 21274 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 21274@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.143973074313772 (code B ref -1); Sun, 16 Aug 2015 13:13:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2015 13:12:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57223 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQxja-0003a4-Ls for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:12:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55573) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQxjY-0003Zv-0k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:12:20 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQxjT-0001xJ-HJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:12:19 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:41551) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQxjT-0001xF-F2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:12:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37270) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQxjS-0002d4-3S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:12:15 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQxjQ-0001wP-VQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:12:14 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:33407) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQxjQ-0001wJ-Sr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:12:12 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZQxjQ-0006cM-DR; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:12:12 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman Message-Id: Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:12:12 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) Someone sent me gpg-encrypted mail using the throw-keyids option, which I think means it doesn't say which person each key belongs to. The result was I was asked for a passphrase for each key until mine came up. I'm told the recommend way to deal with receiving such mail is to specify default-key in gpg.conf. I have that setting, so it looks like EPA doesn't recognize it. That is the bug. In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.23) of 2015-08-12 on freetop Repository revision: 79a169684dfad2c0bbb9fdbae539c1f30d9f0ac3 System Description: Trisquel GNU/Linux 7.0, Belenos Configured using: `configure 'CFLAGS=-g -O0'' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK2 X11 Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: RMAIL Minor modes in effect: diff-auto-refine-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t gpm-mouse-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t abbrev-mode: t Recent messages: Scanning for dabbrevs...done Expansion found in 'RMAIL' Quit Scanning for dabbrevs...done Expansion found in 'RMAIL' Sending... Wrote /home/rms/outgoing/out-4 Sending...done Mark set Quit Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow emacsbug parse-time vc-cvs etags thingatpt xref project cal-move cal-menu calendar cal-loaddefs wid-edit battery sgml-mode epa-file rmailkwd ispell epa-mail epa derived epg diff-mode easy-mmode diff dired-aux sh-script smie executable quail rmailsum conf-mode rmailout shr-color color url-util url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio byte-opt bytecomp byte-compile cl-extra seq cconv eieio-core cl-macs gv gnus-util password-cache url-vars shr dom subr-x browse-url misearch multi-isearch dabbrev shell pcomplete grep compile comint ansi-color ring mailalias qp rmailmm message sendmail format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader mail-parse rfc2231 rmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util help-fns help-mode cl-loaddefs pcase cl-lib mail-prsvr mail-utils dired t-mouse view time-date paren cus-start cus-load advice finder-inf package easymenu epg-config mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese charscript case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote dbusbind gfilenotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 8 372450 84872) (symbols 24 27198 1) (miscs 20 4913 4318) (strings 16 49104 16794) (string-bytes 1 1440643) (vectors 8 29816) (vector-slots 4 1519061 39942) (floats 8 461 752) (intervals 28 68952 2767) (buffers 520 139) (heap 1024 20780 4381)) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21274: 25.0.50; epa doesn't understand GPG's default-key option Resent-From: Daiki Ueno Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 02:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21274 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Richard Stallman Cc: Werner Koch , 21274@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 21274-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21274.143977840224358 (code B ref 21274); Mon, 17 Aug 2015 02:27:02 +0000 Received: (at 21274) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Aug 2015 02:26:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57771 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRA8H-0006Ko-LF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 22:26:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36133) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRA8F-0006Kb-EK for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 22:26:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRA8E-00051b-G6 for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 22:26:39 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_05, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:47313) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRA7x-0004zd-4t; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 22:26:21 -0400 Received: from du-a.org ([219.94.251.20]:44338 helo=dhcp-217-92.nrt.redhat.com) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRA7p-0001AS-P4; Sun, 16 Aug 2015 22:26:14 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daiki Ueno References: Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:26:07 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:12:12 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.10 X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) Richard Stallman writes: > Someone sent me gpg-encrypted mail using the throw-keyids option, > which I think means it doesn't say which person each key belongs to. > The result was I was asked for a passphrase for each key until > mine came up. > > I'm told the recommend way to deal with receiving such mail > is to specify default-key in gpg.conf. I have that setting, > so it looks like EPA doesn't recognize it. According to the GnuPG manual, --default-key is used for signing, not for decrypting a message encrypted with --throw-keyids or --hidden-recipient. IMO, it sounds like a natural extension for --default-key to support that use-case. Werner, what do you think? Regards, -- Daiki Ueno From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21274: 25.0.50; epa doesn't understand GPG's default-key option Resent-From: Daiki Ueno Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 08:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21274 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Richard Stallman Cc: Werner Koch , 21274@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 21274-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21274.14397989161258 (code B ref 21274); Mon, 17 Aug 2015 08:09:02 +0000 Received: (at 21274) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Aug 2015 08:08:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57931 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRFT9-0000KC-AU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 04:08:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54251) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRFT7-0000K4-7a for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 04:08:33 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRFT3-0007DP-Bd for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 04:08:33 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51099) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRFT3-0007DL-8n; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 04:08:29 -0400 Received: from du-a.org ([219.94.251.20]:46405 helo=dhcp-217-92.nrt.redhat.com) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRFSv-0007cD-SK; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 04:08:22 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daiki Ueno References: Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:08:17 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Daiki Ueno's message of "Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:26:07 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) Daiki Ueno writes: > Richard Stallman writes: > >> Someone sent me gpg-encrypted mail using the throw-keyids option, >> which I think means it doesn't say which person each key belongs to. >> The result was I was asked for a passphrase for each key until >> mine came up. >> >> I'm told the recommend way to deal with receiving such mail >> is to specify default-key in gpg.conf. I have that setting, >> so it looks like EPA doesn't recognize it. > > According to the GnuPG manual, --default-key is used for signing, not > for decrypting a message encrypted with --throw-keyids or > --hidden-recipient. IMO, it sounds like a natural extension for > --default-key to support that use-case. Werner, what do you think? Apparently, this has already been implemented in GnuPG 2.1, but not in GnuPG 2.0 nor 1.4: http://git.gnupg.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gnupg.git;a=commit;h=54591341 http://git.gnupg.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=gnupg.git;a=blob;f=g10/getkey.c;h=ad7e71cf7ddca38a917756b8a0675b665c3eddec;hb=54591341#l2565 Maybe good to update the documentation and possibly backport it to other branches? Regards, -- Daiki Ueno From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21274: 25.0.50; epa doesn't understand GPG's default-key option Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 03:40:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21274 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Daiki Ueno Cc: wk@gnupg.org, 21274@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 21274-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21274.143986918627911 (code B ref 21274); Tue, 18 Aug 2015 03:40:03 +0000 Received: (at 21274) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2015 03:39:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58443 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRXkX-0007G7-Ss for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:39:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50345) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRXkV-0007Fz-Vm for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:39:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRXkU-0004aY-HI for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:39:43 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40948) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRXkI-0004VD-TP; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:39:30 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRXkI-00026n-89; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:39:30 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: (message from Daiki Ueno on Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:08:17 +0900) References: Message-Id: Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:39:30 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > According to the GnuPG manual, --default-key is used for signing, not > > for decrypting a message encrypted with --throw-keyids or > > --hidden-recipient. IMO, it sounds like a natural extension for > > --default-key to support that use-case. Werner, what do you think? > Apparently, this has already been implemented in GnuPG 2.1, but not in > GnuPG 2.0 nor 1.4: It could be implemented in EPA independently of whether it is implemented in the version of GPG that is installed. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21274: 25.0.50; epa doesn't understand GPG's default-key option Resent-From: Daiki Ueno Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 03:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21274 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Richard Stallman Cc: Werner Koch , 21274@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 21274-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21274.143986951928508 (code B ref 21274); Tue, 18 Aug 2015 03:46:02 +0000 Received: (at 21274) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2015 03:45:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58458 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRXpv-0007Pj-1n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:45:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52945) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRXps-0007PT-Ly for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:45:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRXpr-0007x3-Uy for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:45:16 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:41922) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRXpo-0007tW-9P; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:45:12 -0400 Received: from du-a.org ([219.94.251.20]:48552 helo=dhcp-217-92.nrt.redhat.com) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRXpg-000393-W6; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:45:05 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daiki Ueno References: Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:44:58 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Daiki Ueno's message of "Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:08:17 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.10 X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) tag 21274 wontfix close 21274 stop In any case, this can't be fixed in Emacs, but it shall be fixed in GnuPG. I'm closing this as wontfix. Regards, -- Daiki Ueno From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21274: 25.0.50; epa doesn't understand GPG's default-key option Resent-From: Daiki Ueno Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 03:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21274 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Richard Stallman Cc: wk@gnupg.org, 21274@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 21274-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21274.143986990429111 (code B ref 21274); Tue, 18 Aug 2015 03:52:01 +0000 Received: (at 21274) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2015 03:51:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58464 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRXw7-0007ZT-VK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:51:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54550) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRXw5-0007ZL-Eh for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:51:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRXw3-0001wE-2K for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:51:41 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:42005) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRXw2-0001w4-VJ; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:51:38 -0400 Received: from du-a.org ([219.94.251.20]:48555 helo=dhcp-217-92.nrt.redhat.com) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRXvv-0003yB-NK; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:51:32 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daiki Ueno References: Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:51:28 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:39:30 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.10 X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) Richard Stallman writes: > > > According to the GnuPG manual, --default-key is used for signing, not > > > for decrypting a message encrypted with --throw-keyids or > > > --hidden-recipient. IMO, it sounds like a natural extension for > > > --default-key to support that use-case. Werner, what do you think? > > > Apparently, this has already been implemented in GnuPG 2.1, but not in > > GnuPG 2.0 nor 1.4: > > It could be implemented in EPA independently of whether it is implemented > in the version of GPG that is installed. What's the GPG command line would you use for that? Regards, -- Daiki Ueno From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21274: 25.0.50; epa doesn't understand GPG's default-key option Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 01:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21274 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Daiki Ueno Cc: wk@gnupg.org, 21274@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 21274-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21274.143994748924127 (code B ref 21274); Wed, 19 Aug 2015 01:25:02 +0000 Received: (at 21274) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2015 01:24:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60141 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRs7V-0006H5-0P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 21:24:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47688) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRs7T-0006Gv-BH for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 21:24:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRs7S-0001VZ-20 for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 21:24:47 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:39739) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRs7G-0001L4-LH; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 21:24:34 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRs7F-000287-JK; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 21:24:33 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: (message from Daiki Ueno on Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:51:28 +0900) References: Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 21:24:33 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.10 X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > It could be implemented in EPA independently of whether it is implemented > > in the version of GPG that is installed. > What's the GPG command line would you use for that? gpg --default-key ... EPA would have to look at gpg.conf and read the default-key line as part of deciding which key to use. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21274: 25.0.50; epa doesn't understand GPG's default-key option Resent-From: Daiki Ueno Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 01:40:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21274 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Richard Stallman Cc: wk@gnupg.org, 21274@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 21274-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21274.143994837725856 (code B ref 21274); Wed, 19 Aug 2015 01:40:03 +0000 Received: (at 21274) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2015 01:39:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60162 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRsLp-0006ix-43 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 21:39:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54694) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRsLm-0006ip-TK for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 21:39:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRsLl-0000yB-PC for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 21:39:34 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:40072) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRsLl-0000y5-CH; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 21:39:33 -0400 Received: from du-a.org ([219.94.251.20]:49981 helo=dhcp-217-92.nrt.redhat.com) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZRsLe-00006U-7R; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 21:39:26 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daiki Ueno References: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 10:39:21 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 18 Aug 2015 21:24:33 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.10 X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) Richard Stallman writes: > > > It could be implemented in EPA independently of whether it is > > > implemented in the version of GPG that is installed. > > > What's the GPG command line would you use for that? > > gpg --default-key ... Are you sure it really works? > EPA would have to look at gpg.conf and read the default-key line > as part of deciding which key to use. That has the same effect as you specify it from the command line. See (info "(gnupg) GPG Options"): "Long options can be put in an options file (default "~/.gnupg/gpg.conf")". Regards, -- Daiki Ueno From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21274: 25.0.50; epa doesn't understand GPG's default-key option Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21274 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Daiki Ueno Cc: wk@gnupg.org, 21274@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 21274-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21274.144000815530756 (code B ref 21274); Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:16:01 +0000 Received: (at 21274) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2015 18:15:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32857 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS7ty-0007zz-Ja for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:15:54 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37236) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS7tx-0007zs-3Z for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:15:53 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS7tw-0007Cc-7B for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:15:53 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:32792) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS7td-0006x6-Sv; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:15:34 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZS7td-0001d5-2U; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:15:33 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: (message from Daiki Ueno on Wed, 19 Aug 2015 10:39:21 +0900) References: Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:15:33 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > gpg --default-key ... > Are you sure it really works? I don't know. but the man page said it would work. It says --try-secret-key name For hidden recipients GPG needs to know the keys to use for trial decryption. The key set with --default-key is always tried first, but this is often not sufficient. This option allows to set more keys to be used for trial decryption. But if that doesn't actually work, then maybe --try-secret-key is needed. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21274: 25.0.50; epa doesn't understand GPG's default-key option Resent-From: Daiki Ueno Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 03:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21274 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Richard Stallman Cc: wk@gnupg.org, 21274@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 21274-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21274.144003961319264 (code B ref 21274); Thu, 20 Aug 2015 03:01:02 +0000 Received: (at 21274) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2015 03:00:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33066 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSG5M-00050W-Bp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 23:00:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34991) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSG5J-00050O-MA for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 23:00:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSG4o-00053g-ST for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 23:00:00 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38794) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSG4o-00053V-NL; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 22:59:38 -0400 Received: from du-a.org ([219.94.251.20]:54065 helo=dhcp-217-92.nrt.redhat.com) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSG4g-0005w5-N3; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 22:59:31 -0400 Message-ID: From: Daiki Ueno References: Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 11:59:24 +0900 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:15:33 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) Richard Stallman writes: > > > gpg --default-key ... > > > Are you sure it really works? > > I don't know. but the man page said it would work. > It says > > --try-secret-key name > For hidden recipients GPG needs to know the keys to use for > trial decryption. The key set with --default-key is always > tried first, but this is often not sufficient. This option > allows to set more keys to be used for trial decryption. > > But if that doesn't actually work, then > maybe --try-secret-key is needed. I suspect that you are looking at the manual page of GnuPG 2.0, while using EPA with GnuPG 1.4. What does this evaluate to? M-: (assq 'version (epg-configuration)) (I was wrong about that the --default-key is used for hidden recipients since GnuPG 2.0. Sorry for the confusion about that.) Regards, -- Daiki Ueno From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21274: 25.0.50; epa doesn't understand GPG's default-key option Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 12:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21274 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Daiki Ueno Cc: wk@gnupg.org, 21274@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 21274-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21274.144016095528126 (code B ref 21274); Fri, 21 Aug 2015 12:43:01 +0000 Received: (at 21274) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Aug 2015 12:42:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34233 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSleV-0007Ja-9V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 08:42:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45284) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSleU-0007JT-1Z for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 08:42:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSleT-0002EZ-2r for 21274@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 08:42:33 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46288) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSleH-00024h-Fa; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 08:42:21 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSleG-0007ZK-J7; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 08:42:20 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: (message from Daiki Ueno on Thu, 20 Aug 2015 11:59:24 +0900) References: Message-Id: Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 08:42:20 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.8 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.8 (-----) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I suspect that you are looking at the manual page of GnuPG 2.0, while > using EPA with GnuPG 1.4. What does this evaluate to? > M-: (assq 'version (epg-configuration)) I am using GPG 1.4.16, and the man page says it is for GPG 1.4.16. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.