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[5.68.141.171]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id lq9sm3590330wjb.35.2015.08.13.07.15.26 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 13 Aug 2015 07:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 15:15:26 +0100 From: Stephane Chazelas To: bug-sed@gnu.org, Jim Meyering Subject: "sed -i '...' -" in git head Message-ID: <20150813141526.GA4313@chaz.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Hello, about this commit: > commit c033bdee411128dfebfea1974d1ee3c1d9eac572 > Author: Jim Meyering > Date: Sat Jun 20 07:38:49 2015 -0700 > > sed -i: do not treat "-" as a file name the behaviour was aligned with perl's (where that syntax derives from). In perl, perl -pi -e 's/../../' -- * or perl -pi -e 's/../../' -- "$file" is known to be /reliable/ (work regardless of the value of $file (while without -i it's not, see https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/170013/security-implications-of-running-perl-ne (-, cmd|, ) id 1aFZJD-00041V-1g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 22:26:19 -0500 Received: from mail-io0-f175.google.com ([209.85.223.175]:35711) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aFZJB-00041J-N1 for 21249@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 22:26:18 -0500 Received: by mail-io0-f175.google.com with SMTP id 77so100382786ioc.2 for <21249@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 19:26:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=eNAg+1YI2hR2/Uk48eQzSRN2pCsYb95uh7DLGA1+ZkU=; b=vvJLLR2xX/HaqTzZAv0sVK8lztOL0j9tib7oni+y49V+TGWMq71yvYccniCLyVLTjt dyoc2Y1hG9+io2P9pZ2joOEfCCBvJ+zvA/N6jYZFGkAvhijOx985HVQxeLv2PYkrfTRL rxFmSz620B4dywvOjzv38fbqMnN0s3KpLIxmj226+rUT7Jj8nnXB+ohTXTh9kSEWnUlX mJgrKjfZ3su1BccRIEApCL1iXNXiJWjZNNRmaGpNPzZMj6Ad/kmv+QmXm5iD+XewgjvT H7EgZsj3YKLatLODA2QidCJHxNy+A5fOZMP1y1K2tzGudLMxurEFHZ0KAIM0oAAzTxXF RkZA== X-Received: by 10.107.27.6 with SMTP id b6mr76402783iob.163.1451791572216; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 19:26:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.36.10.18 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jan 2016 19:25:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20150813141526.GA4313@chaz.gmail.com> References: <20150813141526.GA4313@chaz.gmail.com> From: Jim Meyering Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 19:25:52 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: M1KrzU0Om3i5UtrpFv93HJvZK5I Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#21249: "sed -i '...' -" in git head To: Stephane Chazelas Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=001a113fee44f3ff3b052865903c X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21249 Cc: Jim Meyering , 21249@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) --001a113fee44f3ff3b052865903c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Stephane Chazelas wrote: > Hello, > > about this commit: > >> commit c033bdee411128dfebfea1974d1ee3c1d9eac572 >> Author: Jim Meyering >> Date: Sat Jun 20 07:38:49 2015 -0700 >> >> sed -i: do not treat "-" as a file name > > the behaviour was aligned with perl's (where that syntax derives > from). > > In perl, perl -pi -e 's/../../' -- * > > or perl -pi -e 's/../../' -- "$file" > > is known to be /reliable/ (work regardless of the value of $file > (while without -i it's not, see > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/170013/security-implications-of-running-perl-ne > (-, cmd|, > That was also /safe/ in sed before that change. Treating "-" as > stdin with -i doesn't make sense as it doesn't make sense to > edit stdin "in-place". > > Now that means it breaks scripts that do: > sed -i '...' -- "$file" > expecting it modify $file regardless of the name of $file. Now, > one has to do: > > case $file in > -) file=./- > esac > sed -i '...' -- "$file" > > for no good reason. > > IMO, that change only has negative consequences. Thank you for the report and good argument. 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Sun, 03 Jan 2016 10:54:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.36.10.18 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:53:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20150813141526.GA4313@chaz.gmail.com> From: Jim Meyering Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 10:53:52 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: -IjLCMEkc-7zoH_uMV6IxABsdEU Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#21249: "sed -i '...' -" in git head To: Stephane Chazelas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21249-done Cc: 21249-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Jim Meyering wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Stephane Chazelas > wrote: >> Hello, >> >> about this commit: >> >>> commit c033bdee411128dfebfea1974d1ee3c1d9eac572 >>> Author: Jim Meyering >>> Date: Sat Jun 20 07:38:49 2015 -0700 >>> >>> sed -i: do not treat "-" as a file name >> >> the behaviour was aligned with perl's (where that syntax derives >> from). >> >> In perl, perl -pi -e 's/../../' -- * >> >> or perl -pi -e 's/../../' -- "$file" >> >> is known to be /reliable/ (work regardless of the value of $file >> (while without -i it's not, see >> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/170013/security-implications-of-running-perl-ne >> (-, cmd|, > >> That was also /safe/ in sed before that change. Treating "-" as >> stdin with -i doesn't make sense as it doesn't make sense to >> edit stdin "in-place". >> >> Now that means it breaks scripts that do: >> sed -i '...' -- "$file" >> expecting it modify $file regardless of the name of $file. Now, >> one has to do: >> >> case $file in >> -) file=./- >> esac >> sed -i '...' -- "$file" >> >> for no good reason. >> >> IMO, that change only has negative consequences. > > Thank you for the report and good argument. > I plan to revert that change with the attached patch: Pushed. From unknown Sun Aug 10 07:32:39 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2016 12:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator