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Broken link of the the International Register of Coded Character Sets

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From: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Broken link of the the International Register of Coded Character Sets
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:31:08 +0800

In doc/emacs/mule.texi:

  @kbd{M-x list-character-sets} displays a list of all supported
  charsets.  The list gives the names of charsets and additional
  information to identity each charset; see the
  @url{http://www.itscj.ipsj.or.jp/ISO-IR/, International Register of
  Coded Character Sets} for more details.

The URI above is broken (404).

Message #8 received at 21248 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 21248 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#21248: Broken link of the the International Register of
 Coded	Character Sets
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 17:21:24 +0300

> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:31:08 +0800
> From: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free <at> gmail.com>
> 
>   @kbd{M-x list-character-sets} displays a list of all supported
>   charsets.  The list gives the names of charsets and additional
>   information to identity each charset; see the
>   @url{http://www.itscj.ipsj.or.jp/ISO-IR/, International Register of
>   Coded Character Sets} for more details.
> 
> The URI above is broken (404).

It's not broken here, I can display it just fine.  I tried on 2
different systems with eww, Firefox, and even IE, and they all display
that page correctly.

Of course, that page being in Japanese, it might be a good idea to use
its English variant instead,
http://www.itscj.ipsj.or.jp/itscj_english/index.html, but I'm guessing
you'll have trouble with that as well, for reasons that are probably
specific to your system or Internet connection.

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From: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 21248 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#21248: Broken link of the the International Register of Coded
 Character Sets
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 08:20:12 +0800

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:21 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:
>> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:31:08 +0800
>> From: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free <at> gmail.com>
>>
>>   @kbd{M-x list-character-sets} displays a list of all supported
>>   charsets.  The list gives the names of charsets and additional
>>   information to identity each charset; see the
>>   @url{http://www.itscj.ipsj.or.jp/ISO-IR/, International Register of
>>   Coded Character Sets} for more details.
>>
>> The URI above is broken (404).
>
> It's not broken here, I can display it just fine.  I tried on 2
> different systems with eww, Firefox, and even IE, and they all display
> that page correctly.

No, it _is_ broken.  Although the page can be displayed just fine, that
page roughly means "Page Not Found" (I can read some Japanese).  The
English page you linked isn't (semantically) equivalent to the Japenese
version (which is 404).

Message #14 received at 21248 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 21248 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#21248: Broken link of the the International Register of Coded
 Character Sets
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 08:56:40 +0300

> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 08:20:12 +0800
> From: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free <at> gmail.com>
> Cc: 21248 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> >> The URI above is broken (404).
> >
> > It's not broken here, I can display it just fine.  I tried on 2
> > different systems with eww, Firefox, and even IE, and they all display
> > that page correctly.
> 
> No, it _is_ broken.  Although the page can be displayed just fine,
> that page roughly means "Page Not Found" (I can read some
> Japanese). The English page you linked isn't (semantically)
> equivalent to the Japenese version (which is 404).

Instead of arguing, feel free to change the URL in the manual to point
to the English page.

Thanks.

Message #19 received at 21248-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
To: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 21248-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: Broken link of the the International Register of Coded Character
 Sets
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:49:25 -0700

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

I fixed the broken link by installing the attached.  Thanks for letting us know.

[0001-Fix-broken-URLs-for-ISO-IR.patch (text/x-diff, attachment)]

Message #22 received at 21248 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 21248 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#21248: Broken link of the the International Register of Coded
 Character Sets
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:47:52 +0800

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:
> Instead of arguing, feel free to change the URL in the manual to point
> to the English page.
>
> Thanks.

I'm sorry, but I filed this bug just because I didn't find the right URI
for International Register of Coded Character Sets.

Message #25 received at 21248 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free <at> gmail.com>
To: eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu
Cc: 21248 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#21248: Broken link of the the International Register of Coded
 Character Sets
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 09:52:00 +0800

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu> wrote:
> I fixed the broken link by installing the attached.

Thanks for your patch.  I'm no expert on this, but it seems that your
new URI links to the ISO International Register of Coded Character Sets
_To Be Used With Escape Sequences_.  Are you sure the new link is correct?

Message #28 received at 21248 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
To: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 21248 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#21248: Broken link of the the International Register of Coded
 Character Sets
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 18:56:49 -0700

Xue Fuqiao wrote:
> your
> new URI links to the ISO International Register of Coded Character Sets
> _To Be Used With Escape Sequences_.  Are you sure the new link is correct?

Although I'm no expert either, I'm not aware of any distinction between the 
ISO-IR and the INTERNATIONAL REGISTER OF CODED CHARACTER SETS TO BE USED WITH 
ESCAPE SEQUENCES.  That is, I think they're the same thing. 
https://www.itscj.ipsj.or.jp/itscj_english/ says "ISO-IR" and links to the PDF 
document titled INTERNATIONAL REGISTER OF CODED CHARACTER SETS TO BE USED WITH 
ESCAPE SEQUENCES.

Message #31 received at 21248 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free <at> gmail.com>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: 21248 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#21248: Broken link of the the International Register of Coded
 Character Sets
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:20:00 +0800

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu> wrote:
> Xue Fuqiao wrote:
>>
>> your
>> new URI links to the ISO International Register of Coded Character Sets
>> _To Be Used With Escape Sequences_.  Are you sure the new link is correct?
>
> Although I'm no expert either, I'm not aware of any distinction between the
> ISO-IR and the INTERNATIONAL REGISTER OF CODED CHARACTER SETS TO BE USED
> WITH ESCAPE SEQUENCES.  That is, I think they're the same thing.
> https://www.itscj.ipsj.or.jp/itscj_english/ says "ISO-IR" and links to the
> PDF document titled INTERNATIONAL REGISTER OF CODED CHARACTER SETS TO BE
> USED WITH ESCAPE SEQUENCES.

Thanks for your explanation.  Would you please update the second
argument of the @url (by changing it to ISO-IR or ISO International
Register of Coded Character Sets To Be Used With Escape Sequences, maybe)?

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