From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:26:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21162: adapting octave-inf.el to Octave 4 Resent-From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 17:23:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 21162 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 21162@debbugs.gnu.org, Kurt.Hornik@wu-wien.ac.at Cc: "John W. Eaton" , Mike Miller X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Kurt Hornik Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.143827698124383 (code B ref -1); Thu, 30 Jul 2015 17:23:03 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2015 17:23:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35015 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKrXo-0006LC-7j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:23:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59017) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKrXm-0006L5-8M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:22:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKrXl-0007Wh-7U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:22:57 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:59819) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKrXl-0007Wd-4r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:22:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44274) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKrXh-0003DH-8N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:22:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKrXc-0007Se-N1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:22:53 -0400 Received: from blade3.isti.cnr.it ([194.119.192.19]:4134) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKrXc-0007S4-GH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:22:48 -0400 Received: from tucano.isti.cnr.it ([146.48.81.102]) by mx.isti.cnr.it (PMDF V6.5-x6 #32097) with ESMTPSA id <01POYPDI5P6O9VUM1J@mx.isti.cnr.it> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 19:22:45 +0200 (MEST) Received: from pot by tucano.isti.cnr.it with local (Exim 4.86_RC5) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKrXZ-0007Io-DV; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 19:22:45 +0200 Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 19:22:45 +0200 From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Message-id: Organization: X-INSM-ip-source: 146.48.81.102 Auth Done X-fingerprint: 4B02 6187 5C03 D6B1 2E31 7666 09DF 2DC9 BE21 6115 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. 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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) The following patch does two things: 1) it removes the --no-line-editing option when calling the Octave process, for reasons that I explained in my previous bug report about octave-inf.el 2) it adds the --no-gui option when calling Octave if its version is different from 3: this is needed because the last (and future, probably) Octave versions launch a GUI by default --- /dev/fd/63 2015-07-30 19:21:16.227231663 +0200 +++ octave-inf.el 2015-07-30 19:13:13.678557317 +0200 @@ -193,12 +193,16 @@ (defun inferior-octave-startup () "Start an inferior Octave process." - (let ((proc (comint-exec-1 - (substring inferior-octave-buffer 1 -1) - inferior-octave-buffer - inferior-octave-program - (append (list "-i" "--no-line-editing") - inferior-octave-startup-args)))) + (let* ((octave-version-string (shell-command-to-string + (concat inferior-octave-program " --version"))) + (octave-gui (not (string-match "version 3" octave-version-string))) + (proc (comint-exec-1 + (substring inferior-octave-buffer 1 -1) + inferior-octave-buffer + inferior-octave-program + (append (list "-i") + (when octave-gui (list "--no-gui")) + inferior-octave-startup-args)))) (set-process-filter proc 'inferior-octave-output-digest) (setq comint-ptyp process-connection-type inferior-octave-process proc From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:26:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21162: adapting octave-inf.el to Octave 4 Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 06:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21162 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Cc: Kurt.Hornik@wu-wien.ac.at, 21162@debbugs.gnu.org, "John W. 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("Francesco \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Potort\=C3\=AC\=22's\?\= message of "Thu, 30 Jul 2015 19:22:45 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) Francesco Potort=C3=AC wrote: > The following patch does two things: > > 1) it removes the --no-line-editing option when calling the Octave > process, for reasons that I explained in my previous bug report about > octave-inf.el > > 2) it adds the --no-gui option when calling Octave if its version is > different from 3: this is needed because the last (and future, > probably) Octave versions launch a GUI by default There is no file "octave-inf.el" in Emacs for some time, and "inferior-octave-startup" has contained code to call "--no-gui" for the past two years, so please review the situation in current Emacs master and send a revised patch, if one is still needed. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 31 02:48:36 2015 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jul 2015 06:48:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35365 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZL47P-0007xu-DP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:48:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53692) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZL47M-0007xk-CI for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:48:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZL47K-0005Op-HH for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:48:32 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50667) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZL47K-0005Ok-Eh for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:48:30 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZL47K-0000iT-77 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:48:30 -0400 Subject: control message for bug 21163 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.99.98) Message-Id: From: Glenn Morris Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:48:30 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) merge 21162 21163 tag 21163 moreinfo From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:26:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21162: adapting octave-inf.el to Octave 4 Resent-From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 09:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21162 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Glenn Morris Cc: Kurt.Hornik@wu-wien.ac.at, 21162@debbugs.gnu.org, "John W. Eaton" , Mike Miller Received: via spool by 21162-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21162.143833476617980 (code B ref 21162); Fri, 31 Jul 2015 09:27:01 +0000 Received: (at 21162) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jul 2015 09:26:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35378 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZL6Zq-0004fw-6S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 05:26:06 -0400 Received: from blade3.isti.cnr.it ([194.119.192.19]:19836) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZL6Zo-0004fn-Lb for 21162@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 05:26:05 -0400 Received: from tucano.isti.cnr.it ([146.48.81.102]) by mx.isti.cnr.it (PMDF V6.5-x6 #32097) with ESMTPSA id <01POZN0SCZ3U9VUXP1@mx.isti.cnr.it> for 21162@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:26:01 +0200 (MEST) Received: from pot by tucano.isti.cnr.it with local (Exim 4.86_RC5) (envelope-from ) id 1ZL6Zl-0002nR-TE; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:26:01 +0200 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:26:01 +0200 From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= In-reply-to: Message-id: Organization: X-INSM-ip-source: 146.48.81.102 Auth Done X-fingerprint: 4B02 6187 5C03 D6B1 2E31 7666 09DF 2DC9 BE21 6115 References: X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) >> The following patch does two things: >> >> 1) it removes the --no-line-editing option when calling the Octave >> process, for reasons that I explained in my previous bug report about >> octave-inf.el >> >> 2) it adds the --no-gui option when calling Octave if its version is >> different from 3: this is needed because the last (and future, >> probably) Octave versions launch a GUI by default > >There is no file "octave-inf.el" in Emacs for some time, >and "inferior-octave-startup" has contained code to call "--no-gui" for >the past two years, so please review the situation in current Emacs >master and send a revised patch, if one is still needed. Thanks. Sorry, I live behind the times :) With the newest version, it's easier: just remove the --no-line-editing option from the initialization of inferior-octave-startup-args: --- octave.el.old 2015-07-31 11:19:50.203406678 +0200 +++ octave.el.new 2015-07-31 11:19:55.647504953 +0200 @@ -641,7 +641,7 @@ :group 'octave :version "24.4") -(defcustom inferior-octave-startup-args '("-i" "--no-line-editing") +(defcustom inferior-octave-startup-args '("-i") "List of command line arguments for the inferior Octave process. For example, for suppressing the startup message and using `traditional' mode, include \"-q\" and \"--traditional\"." Reason for changelog entry: --no-line-editing serves no apparent purpose (any more?) and prevents an inferior Octave process from using readline features, like getting the terminal width and other functions used for the FLTK graphical backend. Thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 31 11:31:23 2015 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jul 2015 15:31:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35956 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZLCHL-0007TZ-47 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:31:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44246) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZLCHJ-0007Rx-KL for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:31:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZLCHI-0002OB-TP for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:31:21 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40377) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZLCHI-0002Nu-Q4 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:31:20 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZLCHI-0006rT-Hb for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:31:20 -0400 Subject: control message for bug 21162 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.99.98) Message-Id: From: Glenn Morris Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:31:20 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) merge 21150 21162 From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:26:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21162: adapting octave-inf.el to Octave 4 Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 15:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21162 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Cc: stephen@gnu.org, Kurt.Hornik@wu-wien.ac.at, 21162@debbugs.gnu.org, "John W. 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X-Hue: green X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:39:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: ("Francesco \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Potort\=C3\=AC\=22's\?\= message of "Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:26:01 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) Francesco Potort=C3=AC wrote: > --no-line-editing serves no apparent purpose (any more?) and prevents an > inferior Octave process from using readline features, like getting the > terminal width and other functions used for the FLTK graphical backend. vc-annotate is your friend, and shows that this was added in: commit 48495f0fd6afc6aa45f87116552629df39268336 Author: Stephen Eglen Date: Mon Sep 6 19:20:29 1999 +0000 add --no-line-editing to inferior-octave-startup-args so that TABs in source files are not interpreted as completion requests. I don't use Octave myself, so I have no idea if this is still relevant. If you know it isn't, I suggest you feel free to commit this. Please bump the defcustom's :version tag (to 25.1) if you do, and then close this bug. Thanks! From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:26:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21162: adapting octave-inf.el to Octave 4 Resent-From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 13:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21162 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: stephen@gnu.org, Kurt.Hornik@wu-wien.ac.at, 21162@debbugs.gnu.org, "John W. Eaton" , Mike Miller Received: via spool by 21162-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21162.143886694427691 (code B ref 21162); Thu, 06 Aug 2015 13:16:01 +0000 Received: (at 21162) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2015 13:15:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40970 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNL1L-0007CY-Pk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 09:15:44 -0400 Received: from blade3.isti.cnr.it ([194.119.192.19]:41345) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNL1I-0007CN-A8 for 21162@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 09:15:41 -0400 Received: from tucano.isti.cnr.it ([146.48.81.102]) by mx.isti.cnr.it (PMDF V6.5-x6 #32097) with ESMTPSA id <01PP88SIDKNMA0XKBR@mx.isti.cnr.it> for 21162@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:15:37 +0200 (MEST) Received: from pot by tucano.isti.cnr.it with local (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNL1F-00075i-FR; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:15:37 +0200 Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2015 15:15:37 +0200 From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= In-reply-to: Message-id: Organization: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-INSM-ip-source: 146.48.81.102 Auth Done X-fingerprint: 4B02 6187 5C03 D6B1 2E31 7666 09DF 2DC9 BE21 6115 References: X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) Francesco Potortì: >> --no-line-editing serves no apparent purpose (any more?) and prevents an >> inferior Octave process from using readline features, like getting the >> terminal width and other functions used for the FLTK graphical backend. Glen Morris: >vc-annotate is your friend, and shows that this was added in: > >commit 48495f0fd6afc6aa45f87116552629df39268336 >Author: Stephen Eglen >Date: Mon Sep 6 19:20:29 1999 +0000 > > add --no-line-editing to inferior-octave-startup-args so that TABs > in source files are not interpreted as completion requests. Hm. Thanks, Glenn. I see now that I had not checked that corner case. I'll bring this up with Octave developers and look for a solution. From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:26:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21162: changing terminal size Resent-From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 16:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21162 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Mike Miller Cc: "John W. Eaton" , stephen@gnu.org, 21162@debbugs.gnu.org, Glenn Morris Received: via spool by 21162-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21162.14394824084943 (code B ref 21162); Thu, 13 Aug 2015 16:14:02 +0000 Received: (at 21162) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Aug 2015 16:13:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55201 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPv8B-0001Hc-Gx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:13:27 -0400 Received: from blade4.isti.cnr.it ([194.119.192.20]:18821) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPv88-0001HO-HW for 21162@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:13:25 -0400 Received: from tucano.isti.cnr.it ([146.48.81.102]) by mx.isti.cnr.it (PMDF V6.5-x6 #32097) with ESMTPSA id <01PPI71BI366AC51ZT@mx.isti.cnr.it> for 21162@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:13:22 +0200 (MEST) Received: from pot by tucano.isti.cnr.it with local (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPv86-0001OX-72; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:13:22 +0200 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:13:22 +0200 From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= In-reply-to: Message-id: Organization: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-INSM-ip-source: 146.48.81.102 Auth Done X-fingerprint: 4B02 6187 5C03 D6B1 2E31 7666 09DF 2DC9 BE21 6115 References: <558AFF3E.5010804@degreesofgray.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) >Hi Francesco, thanks for sticking with this despite resistance / lack >of interest. > >Is there a reason you omitted the Octave mailing list on this reply? I think it is of interest only to a tiny minority of people on that list, but if you think otherwise please add it back when answering. By the way, I put in copy the bug reporting address and interested Emacs people. >On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Francesco Potortì wrote: >> 1) --no-line-editing is used to prevent the Emacs inferior Octave from >> intepreting tabs. That was the original intention. In fact, this >> just happened to me while copying and pasting column of numbers from >> another buffer to the inferior Octave buffer and having Octave trying >> to autocomplete. > >Ok, that makes sense. Note that this is the only reason why --no-line-editing is used at all: all other control sequences are intercepted by Emacs adn are not passed to the inferior Octave at all. This is true for tabs also, but if you copy-paste from somewhere else into an inferior Octave buffer, you get strange results without --no-line-editing if what you paste contains tabs. >> 2) --no-line-editing prevents the Emacs inferior Octave from adapting to >> the buffer width (height is not relevant in this context) > >Agreed, this should be fixed in one way or another. > >> 3) --no-line-editing disables some functions used by Octave for FLTK. >> >> Adding support for COLUMNS solves problem 2. >> >> At this point, finding the right solution requires knowing what is the >> purpose of the --no-line-editing: is it possible / desirable to change >> its behaviour? > >If you mean conceptually, I think the meaning is literally "do not use >the readline library for input". IOW, Octave takes its input from >either fgets() or readline(). No line editing means the user's text is >read directly by Octave as provided on the standard input stream. Line >editing allows the user to edit the current line, recall previous >lines in the saved history, kill and yank text, etc, before submitting >it to Octave. > >This is the concept that I think Emacs (correctly) wants to disable. >In this case the user is using Emacs to edit text in a buffer and >submitting it to Octave for evaluation on a line-by-line basis. As I explained above, while this is true conceptually, it is not true in practice. If there was an Octave option --disable-tab-expansion, that would pefectly do as far as Emacs is concerned. So, if --no-line-editing was in fact devised for Emacs' sake, then it is definitely overkill, and one possibility is to simply change its behaviour. If it was intended for some other purpose, then changing its behaviour is out of question. >Your other points are side effects not tied to the main purpose of >using readline for input line editing. I think we all agree #2 is >relatively easy to fix in multiple ways. > >Problem 3 is bug #37795 [1] that has no progress and no suggestions >for how to continue. If we don't use readline to get input from the >user, then we currently have no way to perform asynchronous event >execution while the input is idle and FLTK does not behave correctly. >I think that the Qt toolkit does not suffer from this limitation >because it is multithreaded and does not rely on readline's idle input >callback feature. > >[1]: https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?37795 As a conclusion of my observations above: A. if --no-line-editing was introduce because of the Emacs inferior Octave mode B. if it is reasonable to assume that --no-line-editing is not used by any other application C. if there is a way to leave readline enabled, but disable tab expansion then one can change the --no-line-editing behaviour to just disable tab expansion. Or, if only C is certainly true, one can deprecate and undocument --no-line-editing and add a separate option --disable-tab-expansion for use in Emacs inferior Octave mode. -- Francesco Potortì (ricercatore) Voice: +39.050.621.3058 ISTI - Area della ricerca CNR Mobile: +39.348.8283.107 via G. Moruzzi 1, I-56124 Pisa Skype: wnlabisti (entrance 20, 1st floor, room C71) Web: http://fly.isti.cnr.it From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:26:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21162: bug#21150: 24.5; octave-inf mode does not need --no-line-editing Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 22:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21162 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Cc: Glenn Morris , 21162@debbugs.gnu.org, "John W. 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Content preview: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= writes: > -(defcustom inferior-octave-startup-args '("-i" "--no-line-editing") > +(defcustom inferior-octave-startup-args '("-i") [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Francesco Potort=C3=AC writes: > -(defcustom inferior-octave-startup-args '("-i" "--no-line-editing") > +(defcustom inferior-octave-startup-args '("-i") [...] Francesco Potort=C3=AC writes: > As a conclusion of my observations above: > > A. if --no-line-editing was introduce because of the Emacs inferior > Octave mode > > B. if it is reasonable to assume that --no-line-editing is not used by > any other application > > C. if there is a way to leave readline enabled, but disable tab expansion > > then one can change the --no-line-editing behaviour to just disable tab > expansion. > > Or, if only C is certainly true, one can deprecate and undocument > --no-line-editing and add a separate option --disable-tab-expansion for > use in Emacs inferior Octave mode. I'm going through old bug reports, and after skimming this one, I'm not quite sure what the conclusions are. Should the --no-line-editing value be removed from the options? --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:26:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21162: bug#21150: 24.5; octave-inf mode does not need --no-line-editing Resent-From: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2021 13:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21162 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: Glenn Morris , 21162@debbugs.gnu.org, "John W. 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Content preview: > >Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= writes: > >> -(defcustom inferior-octave-startup-args '("-i" "--no-line-editing") >> +(defcustom inferior-octave-startup-args '("-i") > >[...] > >Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= [...] Content analysis details: (1.4 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4 RBL: Very Good reputation (+4) [79.98.45.17 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders 0.4 KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS Relay HELO differs from its IP's reverse DNS X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) > >Francesco Potortì writes: > >> -(defcustom inferior-octave-startup-args '("-i" "--no-line-editing") >> +(defcustom inferior-octave-startup-args '("-i") > >[...] > >Francesco Potortì writes: > >> As a conclusion of my observations above: >> >> A. if --no-line-editing was introduce because of the Emacs inferior >> Octave mode >> >> B. if it is reasonable to assume that --no-line-editing is not used by >> any other application >> >> C. if there is a way to leave readline enabled, but disable tab expansion >> >> then one can change the --no-line-editing behaviour to just disable tab >> expansion. >> >> Or, if only C is certainly true, one can deprecate and undocument >> --no-line-editing and add a separate option --disable-tab-expansion for >> use in Emacs inferior Octave mode. > >I'm going through old bug reports, and after skimming this one, I'm not >quite sure what the conclusions are. Should the --no-line-editing value >be removed from the options? No. Not unless Octave adds a --disable--tab--expansion as I suggest in the second route that I described. The current options provide minimal damage with current Octave's behaviour. To do better, Octave should follow one of the two routes I illustrated above. From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:26:25 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#21162: bug#21150: 24.5; octave-inf mode does not need --no-line-editing Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2021 09:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21162 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= Cc: Glenn Morris , 21162@debbugs.gnu.org, "John W. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Francesco =?UTF-8?Q?Potort=C3=AC?= writes: > No. Not unless Octave adds a --disable--tab--expansion as I suggest in > the second route that I described. > > The current options provide minimal damage with current Octave's > behaviour. To do be [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Francesco Potort=C3=AC writes: > No. Not unless Octave adds a --disable--tab--expansion as I suggest in > the second route that I described. > > The current options provide minimal damage with current Octave's > behaviour. To do better, Octave should follow one of the two routes I > illustrated above. 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