From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:06:31 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#21103 <21103@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#21103 <21103@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.5; LaTeX input mode: add more blackboard bold characters Reply-To: bug#21103 <21103@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 06:06:31 +0000 retitle 21103 24.5; LaTeX input mode: add more blackboard bold characters reassign 21103 emacs submitter 21103 Ansgar Burchardt severity 21103 minor tag 21103 patch thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 21 11:31:30 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2015 15:31:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55583 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHZVx-000653-0a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:31:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53805) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHVjz-0007Io-1o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 07:29:43 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHVjo-0005lo-7q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 07:29:37 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:55007) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHVjo-0005li-4g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 07:29:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39037) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHVjm-00016c-GO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 07:29:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHVjh-0005hX-8m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 07:29:30 -0400 Received: from mx-out-1.rwth-aachen.de ([134.130.5.186]:15538) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHVjh-0005fi-1j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 07:29:25 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.15,515,1432591200"; d="scan'208,223";a="464982784" Received: from igpm.igpm.rwth-aachen.de ([134.130.161.1]) by mx-1.rz.rwth-aachen.de with ESMTP; 21 Jul 2015 13:29:21 +0200 Received: from snout.igpm.rwth-aachen.de ([134.130.161.52] helo=snout) by igpm.igpm.rwth-aachen.de with esmtps (UNKNOWN:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHVkF-0001ps-Lx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:29:59 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=snout.igpm.rwth-aachen.de) by snout with esmtp (Exim 4.86_RC4) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHVjd-0007BO-Bc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:29:21 +0200 From: Ansgar Burchardt To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.5; LaTeX input mode: add more blackboard bold characters Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:28:49 +0200 Message-ID: <87lhe9oiku.fsf@snout.igpm.rwth-aachen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:31:27 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1. Enable LaTeX input mode: C-\ "TeX" RETURN 2. Typing \Bbb{R} should now result in =E2=84=9D, but (for example) \Bbb{C} does not result in =E2=84=82. I miss at least =E2=84=82 (field of complex numbers), =F0=9D=94=BD (generic= field), =F0=9D=95=82 (generic field, German), =E2=84=8D (quaternions), =F0=9D=95=80 (identity ma= p), =E2=84=9A (field of rational numbers), =E2=84=A4 (ring of integers). Others might miss a few mo= re that are in common use, see [1]. The attached patch adds all blackboard bold capital characters and "1" and "2" using the codepoints from the referenced Wikipedia article. Ansgar [1] In GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.16.4) of 2015-06-28 on trouble, modified by Debian Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11701000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux testing (stretch) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0001-Add-more-blackboard-bold-characters.patch Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From dbe72dfd8d230bb2d7cb17e5d573dd00b9e2d49d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Ansgar Burchardt Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:05:39 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] Add more blackboard bold characters This patch adds all capital blackboard bold letters and those for "1" and "2". Most characters are in common use in mathematics, but it does not seem useful to exclude the few not widely used. Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackboard_bold --- lisp/leim/quail/latin-ltx.el | 28 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++-- 1 file changed, 26 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/lisp/leim/quail/latin-ltx.el b/lisp/leim/quail/latin-ltx.el index 82c0aa3..366f21c 100644 --- a/lisp/leim/quail/latin-ltx.el +++ b/lisp/leim/quail/latin-ltx.el @@ -645,10 +645,34 @@ system, including many technical ones. Examples: ("\\wp" ?=E2=84=98) ("\\wr" ?=E2=89=80) =20 - ("\\Bbb{N}" ?=E2=84=95) ; AMS commands for blackboard bold - ("\\Bbb{P}" ?=E2=84=99) ; Also sometimes \mathbb. + ("\\Bbb{A}" ?=F0=9D=94=B8) ; AMS commands for blackboard bold + ("\\Bbb{B}" ?=F0=9D=94=B9) ; Also sometimes \mathbb. + ("\\Bbb{C}" ?=E2=84=82) + ("\\Bbb{D}" ?=F0=9D=94=BB) + ("\\Bbb{E}" ?=F0=9D=94=BC) + ("\\Bbb{F}" ?=F0=9D=94=BD) + ("\\Bbb{G}" ?=F0=9D=94=BE) + ("\\Bbb{H}" ?=E2=84=8D) + ("\\Bbb{I}" ?=F0=9D=95=80) + ("\\Bbb{J}" ?=F0=9D=95=81) + ("\\Bbb{K}" ?=F0=9D=95=82) + ("\\Bbb{L}" ?=F0=9D=95=83) + ("\\Bbb{M}" ?=F0=9D=95=84) + ("\\Bbb{N}" ?=E2=84=95) + ("\\Bbb{O}" ?=F0=9D=95=86) + ("\\Bbb{P}" ?=E2=84=99) + ("\\Bbb{Q}" ?=E2=84=9A) ("\\Bbb{R}" ?=E2=84=9D) + ("\\Bbb{S}" ?=F0=9D=95=8A) + ("\\Bbb{T}" ?=F0=9D=95=8B) + ("\\Bbb{U}" ?=F0=9D=95=8C) + ("\\Bbb{V}" ?=F0=9D=95=8D) + ("\\Bbb{W}" ?=F0=9D=95=8E) + ("\\Bbb{X}" ?=F0=9D=95=8F) + ("\\Bbb{Y}" ?=F0=9D=95=90) ("\\Bbb{Z}" ?=E2=84=A4) + ("\\Bbb{1}" ?=F0=9D=9F=99) + ("\\Bbb{2}" ?=F0=9D=9F=9A) ("--" ?=E2=80=93) ("---" ?=E2=80=94) ;; We used to use ~ for NBSP but that's inconvenient and may even look li= ke --=20 2.1.4 --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 23 04:38:25 2016 Received: (at 21103) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2016 09:38:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39110 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aY9QH-00065e-0R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 04:38:25 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:53970) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aY9QE-00065R-RT for 21103@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 04:38:23 -0500 Received: from cpe-60-225-211-161.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([60.225.211.161] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aY9Pk-00016W-62; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 10:37:52 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Ansgar Burchardt Subject: Re: bug#21103: 24.5; LaTeX input mode: add more blackboard bold characters References: <87lhe9oiku.fsf@snout.igpm.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 20:37:47 +1100 In-Reply-To: <87lhe9oiku.fsf@snout.igpm.rwth-aachen.de> (Ansgar Burchardt's message of "Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:28:49 +0200") Message-ID: <87oab7vkb8.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MailScanner-ID: 1aY9Pk-00016W-62 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1456825074.48641@MXXoqooOng6n+kW4d7U/KA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21103 Cc: 21103@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Ansgar Burchardt writes: > I miss at least =E2=84=82 (field of complex numbers), =F0=9D=94=BD (gener= ic field), =F0=9D=95=82 > (generic field, German), =E2=84=8D (quaternions), =F0=9D=95=80 (identity = map), =E2=84=9A (field of > rational numbers), =E2=84=A4 (ring of integers). Others might miss a few = more > that are in common use, see [1]. > > The attached patch adds all blackboard bold capital characters and "1" > and "2" using the codepoints from the referenced Wikipedia article. [...] > This patch adds all capital blackboard bold letters and those for "1" > and "2". Most characters are in common use in mathematics, but it does > not seem useful to exclude the few not widely used. It does seem more consistent to add them all, yes... > - ("\\Bbb{N}" ?=E2=84=95) ; AMS commands for blackboard bold > - ("\\Bbb{P}" ?=E2=84=99) ; Also sometimes \mathbb. > + ("\\Bbb{A}" ?=F0=9D=94=B8) ; AMS commands for blackboard bold > + ("\\Bbb{B}" ?=F0=9D=94=B9) ; Also sometimes \mathbb. > + ("\\Bbb{C}" ?=E2=84=82) > + ("\\Bbb{D}" ?=F0=9D=94=BB) > + ("\\Bbb{E}" ?=F0=9D=94=BC) > + ("\\Bbb{F}" ?=F0=9D=94=BD) > + ("\\Bbb{G}" ?=F0=9D=94=BE) > + ("\\Bbb{H}" ?=E2=84=8D) (etc) A question to the other Emacs maintainers -- would a change like this, which is more than 15 lines, require a copyright assignment? It's not very "code-ey"... --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 20 15:41:47 2020 Received: (at 21103) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2020 20:41:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46158 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1itdrj-0004th-S4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2020 15:41:47 -0500 Received: from ted.gofardesign.uk ([67.225.143.91]:45190) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1itdri-0004tU-CU for 21103@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2020 15:41:43 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=+UwVzSF6OSVNZKu8zXLTS9Fd78FtNPAWeSTNRzAuRM4=; b=YwthUKIt9Nkpsaz3Qwq/WaKrWH DVPjHhsWlk1PSTlknHaiAN/ca9sF2tRPSd0JWrDVuFARiEmyaeJ9AkkXysCHMyv30OPaRlTjzwVT4 IAVHDcYu2K3K1Wp4RE+CKOq3XEvb2W7f8wWYdrxwtE9KWUvXOyOdqJNIbGC3FRLcDb3G0kc2BJtlB bgnR5ebm2T6Af0WAzXvKWWOzwTfIYS4sbV0gsf9PlFW0F49snMKNAOUc0BjkHFQm/ZYoV0lLKK6nV NHR0shuHYuTSeEBsCWe8/4On9BqBINuO4oo3dZd7DTEI5ZDaiG6LcmHhN45bEbzVydzILqUnU9QWV Vu4i1rLA==; Received: from h-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:43450 helo=localhost) by ted.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1itdrX-000Gbc-Vg; Mon, 20 Jan 2020 15:41:32 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#21103: 24.5; LaTeX input mode: add more blackboard bold characters In-Reply-To: <87oab7vkb8.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 23 Feb 2016 20:37:47 +1100") References: <87lhe9oiku.fsf@snout.igpm.rwth-aachen.de> <87oab7vkb8.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 21:41:30 +0100 Message-ID: <87pnfdq2rp.fsf@marxist.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ted.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ted.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: ted.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21103 Cc: 21103@debbugs.gnu.org, Ansgar Burchardt X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Ansgar Burchardt writes: > >> I miss at least =E2=84=82 (field of complex numbers), =F0=9D=94=BD (gene= ric field), =F0=9D=95=82 >> (generic field, German), =E2=84=8D (quaternions), =F0=9D=95=80 (identity= map), =E2=84=9A (field of >> rational numbers), =E2=84=A4 (ring of integers). Others might miss a few= more >> that are in common use, see [1]. >> >> The attached patch adds all blackboard bold capital characters and "1" >> and "2" using the codepoints from the referenced Wikipedia article. > > [...] > >> This patch adds all capital blackboard bold letters and those for "1" >> and "2". Most characters are in common use in mathematics, but it does >> not seem useful to exclude the few not widely used. > > It does seem more consistent to add them all, yes... > >> - ("\\Bbb{N}" ?=E2=84=95) ; AMS commands for blackboard bold >> - ("\\Bbb{P}" ?=E2=84=99) ; Also sometimes \mathbb. >> + ("\\Bbb{A}" ?=F0=9D=94=B8) ; AMS commands for blackboard bold >> + ("\\Bbb{B}" ?=F0=9D=94=B9) ; Also sometimes \mathbb. >> + ("\\Bbb{C}" ?=E2=84=82) >> + ("\\Bbb{D}" ?=F0=9D=94=BB) >> + ("\\Bbb{E}" ?=F0=9D=94=BC) >> + ("\\Bbb{F}" ?=F0=9D=94=BD) >> + ("\\Bbb{G}" ?=F0=9D=94=BE) >> + ("\\Bbb{H}" ?=E2=84=8D) > > (etc) > > A question to the other Emacs maintainers -- would a change like this, > which is more than 15 lines, require a copyright assignment? It's not > very "code-ey"... I searched online, and found the following: https://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ33.pdf Familiar symbols and designs, or a simple combination of a few familiar= symbols or designs, are=20 uncopyrightable and cannot be registered with the Office. However, a wo= rk of authorship that=20 incorporates one or more familiar symbols or designs into a larger desi= gn may be registered if the=20 work as a whole contains a sufficient amount of creative expression. =20=20=20=20 Examples of familiar symbols and designs include but are not limited to =E2=80=A2 Letters, punctuation, or symbols on a keyboard =E2=80=A2 Abbreviations =E2=80=A2 Musical notation =E2=80=A2 Numbers and mathematical and currency symbols =E2=80=A2 Arrows and other directional or navigational symbols =E2=80=A2 Common symbols and shapes, such as a spade, club, heart, diam= ond, star, yin yang, or=20=20 fleur de lys =E2=80=A2 Common patterns, such as standard chevron, polka dot, checker= board, or houndstooth =E2=80=A2 Well-known and commonly used symbols that contain a minimal a= mount of expression or=20=20 are in the public domain, such as the peace symbol, gender symbols, o= r simple emoticons =E2=80=A2 Industry designs, such as the caduceus, barber pole, food lab= eling symbols, or hazard=20 warning symbols =E2=80=A2 Familiar religious symbols =E2=80=A2 Common architecture moldings Given the above, I think this is fine to install with the Copyright-paperwork-exempt tag. We could perhaps contact assign@gnu.org if we feel unsure about this, to hear what they have to say. Does anyone think we should do that first, or have any other comments? Otherwise, I think we should just install it. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 21 13:19:12 2020 Received: (at 21103) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jan 2020 18:19:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48456 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ity7J-0002Yv-37 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 13:19:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44488) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ity7E-0002YG-C6 for 21103@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 13:19:08 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51336) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ity78-00035M-Mj; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 13:18:58 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3771 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ity6z-00083f-Mc; Tue, 21 Jan 2020 13:18:50 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 20:18:59 +0200 Message-Id: <83pnfcvfjg.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas , Richard Stallman In-reply-to: <87pnfdq2rp.fsf@marxist.se> (message from Stefan Kangas on Mon, 20 Jan 2020 21:41:30 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#21103: 24.5; LaTeX input mode: add more blackboard bold characters References: <87lhe9oiku.fsf@snout.igpm.rwth-aachen.de> <87oab7vkb8.fsf@gnus.org> <87pnfdq2rp.fsf@marxist.se> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21103 Cc: 21103@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, ansgar@43-1.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 21:41:30 +0100 > Cc: 21103@debbugs.gnu.org, Ansgar Burchardt > > >> - ("\\Bbb{N}" ?ℕ) ; AMS commands for blackboard bold > >> - ("\\Bbb{P}" ?ℙ) ; Also sometimes \mathbb. > >> + ("\\Bbb{A}" ?𝔸) ; AMS commands for blackboard bold > >> + ("\\Bbb{B}" ?𝔹) ; Also sometimes \mathbb. > >> + ("\\Bbb{C}" ?ℂ) > >> + ("\\Bbb{D}" ?𝔻) > >> + ("\\Bbb{E}" ?𝔼) > >> + ("\\Bbb{F}" ?𝔽) > >> + ("\\Bbb{G}" ?𝔾) > >> + ("\\Bbb{H}" ?ℍ) > > > > (etc) > > > > A question to the other Emacs maintainers -- would a change like this, > > which is more than 15 lines, require a copyright assignment? It's not > > very "code-ey"... > > I searched online, and found the following: > https://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ33.pdf > > Familiar symbols and designs, or a simple combination of a few familiar symbols or designs, are > uncopyrightable and cannot be registered with the Office. However, a work of authorship that > incorporates one or more familiar symbols or designs into a larger design may be registered if the > work as a whole contains a sufficient amount of creative expression. > > Examples of familiar symbols and designs include but are not limited to > • Letters, punctuation, or symbols on a keyboard > • Abbreviations > • Musical notation > • Numbers and mathematical and currency symbols > • Arrows and other directional or navigational symbols > • Common symbols and shapes, such as a spade, club, heart, diamond, star, yin yang, or > fleur de lys > • Common patterns, such as standard chevron, polka dot, checkerboard, or houndstooth > • Well-known and commonly used symbols that contain a minimal amount of expression or > are in the public domain, such as the peace symbol, gender symbols, or simple emoticons > • Industry designs, such as the caduceus, barber pole, food labeling symbols, or hazard > warning symbols > • Familiar religious symbols > • Common architecture moldings > > Given the above, I think this is fine to install with the > Copyright-paperwork-exempt tag. > > We could perhaps contact assign@gnu.org if we feel unsure about this, > to hear what they have to say. Does anyone think we should do that > first, or have any other comments? Otherwise, I think we should just > install it. Richard, are there any reasons to be more lenient with this kind of changes, wrt to the maximum number of lines we are allowed to accept without a copyright assignment? The original patch is here: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=21103#5 You can download the patch itself with this URL: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?msg=5;filename=0001-Add-more-blackboard-bold-characters.patch;att=1;bug=21103 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 31 05:24:14 2020 Received: (at 21103-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2020 10:24:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36617 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ixTTC-0002db-Hy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2020 05:24:14 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42303) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ixTTA-0002dP-Ga for 21103-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2020 05:24:12 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33123) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ixTT4-0004fp-Mc; Fri, 31 Jan 2020 05:24:06 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3262 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ixTSo-0002Jp-R8; Fri, 31 Jan 2020 05:23:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 12:23:30 +0200 Message-Id: <83ftfvlyal.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: stefan@marxist.se In-reply-to: <83pnfcvfjg.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Tue, 21 Jan 2020 20:18:59 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#21103: 24.5; LaTeX input mode: add more blackboard bold characters References: <87lhe9oiku.fsf@snout.igpm.rwth-aachen.de> <87oab7vkb8.fsf@gnus.org> <87pnfdq2rp.fsf@marxist.se> <83pnfcvfjg.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21103-done Cc: 21103-done@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, ansgar@43-1.org, rms@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 20:18:59 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: 21103@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, ansgar@43-1.org > > > Given the above, I think this is fine to install with the > > Copyright-paperwork-exempt tag. > > > > We could perhaps contact assign@gnu.org if we feel unsure about this, > > to hear what they have to say. Does anyone think we should do that > > first, or have any other comments? Otherwise, I think we should just > > install it. > > Richard, are there any reasons to be more lenient with this kind of > changes, wrt to the maximum number of lines we are allowed to accept > without a copyright assignment? The original patch is here: > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=21103#5 > > You can download the patch itself with this URL: > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?msg=5;filename=0001-Add-more-blackboard-bold-characters.patch;att=1;bug=21103 Discussion with Richard indicated that such changes don't need any copyright assignments, since they introduce code that is not copyrightable. So I've pushed this to the emacs-27 branch, and I'm closing the bug. Thanks. From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:06:31 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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