From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 09 20:43:24 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jul 2015 00:43:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45665 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZDMPT-00028d-Oe for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2015 20:43:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53956) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZDMPR-00028Q-F8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2015 20:43:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZDMPL-0007n0-8r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2015 20:43:16 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:42880) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZDMPL-0007ms-5B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2015 20:43:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39225) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZDMPK-0000oU-4w for bug-diffutils@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2015 20:43:15 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZDMPE-0007kf-TS for bug-diffutils@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2015 20:43:14 -0400 Received: from mailgw-02.dd24.net ([193.46.215.43]:35648) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZDMPE-0007ij-KD for bug-diffutils@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2015 20:43:08 -0400 Received: from mailpolicy-01.live.igb.homer.key-systems.net (mailpolicy-02.live.igb.homer.key-systems.net [192.168.1.27]) by mailgw-02.dd24.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4585FC41 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 00:43:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailpolicy-02.live.igb.homer.key-systems.net Received: from mailgw-02.dd24.net ([192.168.1.36]) by mailpolicy-01.live.igb.homer.key-systems.net (mailpolicy-02.live.igb.homer.key-systems.net [192.168.1.25]) (amavisd-new, port 10236) with ESMTP id 2MkuYiyWSz-L for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 00:42:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from heisenberg.fritz.box (ppp-93-104-118-60.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.118.60]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw-02.dd24.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 00:42:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1436488977.5743.13.camel@scientia.net> Subject: REQUEST: --no-dereference missing from manpage + please make a short option for it From: Christoph Anton Mitterer To: bug-diffutils@gnu.org Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 02:42:57 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-512"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-F/zBqD7UOqcCIFoWjlF7" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.3-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) --=-F/zBqD7UOqcCIFoWjlF7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey. It seems that --no-dereference is not documented in the manpage. Apart from that, --no-dereference seem to me like the more native way for a recursive diff to work,... i.e. diffing the values of symlinks and not (recursively) the stuff they point to. Since no-dereference is so helpful, could you perhaps add a shortcut -R that is recursive + no-dereference? Unfortunately it's probably too late to change -r to behave like --no -dereference (and instead add a --dereference and a -R). 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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:54:37 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: AlJ9gU672o2XFxGxScvlkaODkAg Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bug-diffutils] bug#21023: REQUEST: --no-dereference missing from manpage + please make a short option for it To: Christoph Anton Mitterer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21023 Cc: 21023@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > It seems that --no-dereference is not documented in the manpage. Thanks for the report. However, it is there for me (using diff-3.3), both in "diff --help" output and in "info diffutils": $ diff --help|grep no-d --no-dereference don't follow symbolic links >From "info diffutils": '--no-dereference' Act on symbolic links themselves instead of what they point to. > Apart from that, --no-dereference seem to me like the more native way > for a recursive diff to work,... i.e. diffing the values of symlinks > and not (recursively) the stuff they point to. It's hard to know which way is more intuitive for more people. > Since no-dereference is so helpful, could you perhaps add a shortcut -R > that is recursive + no-dereference? We add short options only very rarely/carefully, because doing so risks conflicting with usage in other versions of diff. > Unfortunately it's probably too late to change -r to behave like --no > -dereference (and instead add a --dereference and a -R). -P will eventually be a synonym for --no-dereference. It used to be documented to mean --unidirectional-new-file, but that was undocumented in 2002. It is time now to emit a warning for use of -P, so that we can eventually make it a synonym for --no-dereference as it is done in numerous other tools. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 31 13:14:34 2015 Received: (at 21023) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2015 17:14:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43876 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWSfB-0000Kd-R8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:14:34 -0400 Received: from mail-qk0-f177.google.com ([209.85.220.177]:36775) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWSQN-0008Fu-Ot for 21023@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:59:16 -0400 Received: by qkbp67 with SMTP id p67so5998006qkb.3 for <21023@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:59:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Wx5m5uaNN8a2wdTvLX2dzgIPPULSvI/hSvGB6R1s8Ww=; b=hlaOjCSyLTaeWXy76WlVha2d/wE5BG9VY243sinAMNwKxQdyoRMblWFkQ9GU+0NbR2 iASkDB+5aQT5nguEA0M9aAsWHxPbKlF1AFh6E0Vm25uJ28B3PIe5s/n0lmgWDZGO2VYA OvBfTvdHsmRmeeDQ73I4V4MD3z+j4qJYXo0AN/3jS1Zqg/iEwZ/9CiKHHXxy5onlwJgo xeNtKWAqh5WXpR419pqoVTe2IAz2YhJgKn37OVOf9tA1k5RPyZaugN6olso1Msof6iXq MOIC5lTkcaQEvGeahQwhK1OKDdIRmrz3ZnF0cumOC9DWFya1U5sm/hVTeI3QlNFiB97K HXHQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.137.70 with SMTP id z67mr21381458ywf.128.1441040354935; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.215.149 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 09:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 18:59:14 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: --no-dereference From: =?UTF-8?Q?Rodrigo_Vali=C3=B1a_Guti=C3=A9rrez?= To: 21023@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21023 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:14:32 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --no-dereference appears in 'diff --help' and 'info diffutils', but not in 'man diff'. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 31 15:55:08 2015 Received: (at 21023-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2015 19:55:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44019 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWVAa-0004Cy-1O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 15:55:08 -0400 Received: from mail-vk0-f42.google.com ([209.85.213.42]:35495) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWVAX-0004Cp-6b for 21023-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 15:55:05 -0400 Received: by vkaw128 with SMTP id w128so44383401vka.2 for <21023-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:55:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=deyF8IDdEYYGVXVlA25ZZC49SFsTJinmZYBpF2xqBTg=; b=hOwAutTIIFQ3tO4SiJyh+xiYv5lTcEGyBv2URq1fdGmXTQfZ43Ke8jaLctU1UZBZWe uyNXrcg1jlrmbeWoYBqtmkXwfFjBVBZcOyFeIFEn8HKwXNGfwC00rk1H7+PQZiUSaXzA YzkdWTe2+eEp1lRMvNs71QggMBXFwzE4jhnEK0JfakV3xCfzmjdhnqEXLNop+UguE2b6 pKcNiBD1bUvP5wPNLFEDMlxJpKM3KF9XhdJYqgPQ1cM+susHS/5rvoI3KWWRpaKl5SvF H1+QgFfbEJFIkSUwqiU6ENhq882zAaZ8Y/fTt9IWqHsVJUJdWzvfbBYJgm7tDds9R42u FTCw== X-Received: by 10.52.185.69 with SMTP id fa5mr4507797vdc.89.1441050904255; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:55:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.61.8 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:54:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1436488977.5743.13.camel@scientia.net> From: Jim Meyering Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:54:44 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: PlDomjCUFSRIShSvJekArcXzgPI Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bug-diffutils] bug#21023: --no-dereference To: =?UTF-8?Q?Rodrigo_Vali=C3=B1a_Guti=C3=A9rrez?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21023-done Cc: 21023-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) tags 21023 notabug thanks On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Rodrigo Vali=C3=B1a Guti=C3=A9rrez wrote: > --no-dereference appears in 'diff --help' and 'info diffutils', but > not in 'man diff'. Thanks for the report, but that is unlikely to be a problem with this upstream diffutils package, since the man page (diff.1) is automatically generated from the output of diff --help, and the build machinery to do that has been in place for over a decade. I would suspect whatever installed your diff man pages or the configuration of your "man(1)" program -- maybe it is searching in the wrong place. I'm closing the auto-generated ticket in our bug-tracking system, but please reply here (we'll still see it) if you think there is something we can improve on this front. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 31 16:04:09 2015 Received: (at 21023) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2015 20:04:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44055 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWVJJ-0004SL-78 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:04:09 -0400 Received: from mail-qk0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169]:35804) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWVJH-0004SD-92 for 21023@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:04:07 -0400 Received: by qkcj187 with SMTP id j187so14799003qkc.2 for <21023@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:04:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=D04xZvSVG3HW8KlR0DBfr0TwGkGChnk61fP0blwC9LM=; b=pIZ8lChi1Ql+/IhAzHZcFjAtQVGYD8SetSPfmL1w+AHpxSsgac8uLJEHRU7SFy6LcX /h4EDaumtD89F2snhi+YJj9gLf5qBFiLeJFP12Ed4GI9RKD5iBJO0ssCzBhrK2hV0nmE V8jFxWnpfqMZv+blqgfpPTe8cHSa2b1cpkY+g9D3la+44xB2btw0ZRvipS0R5uoHPG9v n1ZZtGCZIE1gVNPsFG5+XxIDeZST5PMQNOHSiD17BhnOAFuXMa2dJC0yC+lZatLMd+tA 1HumdUpHTTeQ7DJERUF7ln86ISXBuSJsZGmU8++HXA8LVP5JA5TlimcxYO9sUK8TpZwK W+Qw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.56.139 with SMTP id f133mr10735380ywa.61.1441051446486; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.215.149 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:04:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1436488977.5743.13.camel@scientia.net> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 22:04:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bug-diffutils] bug#21023: --no-dereference From: =?UTF-8?Q?Rodrigo_Vali=C3=B1a_Guti=C3=A9rrez?= To: Jim Meyering Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21023 Cc: 21023@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On 8/31/15, Jim Meyering wrote: > tags 21023 notabug > thanks > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Rodrigo Vali=C3=B1a Guti=C3=A9rrez > wrote: >> --no-dereference appears in 'diff --help' and 'info diffutils', but >> not in 'man diff'. > > Thanks for the report, but that is unlikely to be a problem with this > upstream diffutils package, since the man page (diff.1) is > automatically generated from the output of diff --help, and the build > machinery to do that has been in place for over a decade. I would > suspect whatever installed your diff man pages or the configuration of > your "man(1)" program -- maybe it is searching in the wrong place. Thanks for the reply. I downloaded diffutils-3.3.tar.xz and in diffutils-3.3/man/diff.1 does not appear the --no-dereference option. I don't know whether it is re-generated at compile or install time... but at the moment that file does not have the said option. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 31 16:43:03 2015 Received: (at 21023) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2015 20:43:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44153 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWVux-0006yH-EN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:43:03 -0400 Received: from mail-ig0-f177.google.com ([209.85.213.177]:34540) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWVuu-0006xs-Va for 21023@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:43:01 -0400 Received: by igui7 with SMTP id i7so64638330igu.1 for <21023@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:43:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NLfqHsyNNaepg0u6TIxFKcwBMFmsyoLgYmf1kAqA9mI=; b=beI7+6geqm6zHnlQULDSoFPlI2IsarJj4r0lg5BmnQhcLqR3+Cj8wAld4u2d/8xlfx EPPe78LH70KP0n/fxNJfz5mA5xNW+OKEHQQVtGN4YMyqLHrM3fQJtmsZOy/vS0apaf9E y6xs2sbVzNC1xNa49CG9cKgdh7vvJihNG3dSRLyhDxD2syQq76sqXKvm/y1pneE8JuUZ rMdAX/nMnzBs+2EAb2UO+yDraBtIWQT2lTczOXY9mpYELaPJ873o5DgPJn7UVo3qmG84 Z1H5yG7eTn9mF74isznTCvhJN9aJl8bXHb9F7Y+zxS9rHTg03lJI9OBEVSjs5DnlHhQC nwpA== X-Received: by 10.50.141.201 with SMTP id rq9mr459581igb.95.1441053780264; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:43:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.36.107.196 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:42:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1436488977.5743.13.camel@scientia.net> From: Jim Meyering Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:42:40 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FGhmmjJnS6GvbIdoeWxR1XDzSwA Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bug-diffutils] bug#21023: --no-dereference To: =?UTF-8?Q?Rodrigo_Vali=C3=B1a_Guti=C3=A9rrez?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21023 Cc: 21023@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) reopen 21023 tags 21023 -notabug thanks On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Rodrigo Vali=C3=B1a Guti=C3=A9rrez wrote: > On 8/31/15, Jim Meyering wrote: >> tags 21023 notabug >> thanks >> >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Rodrigo Vali=C3=B1a Guti=C3=A9rrez >> wrote: >>> --no-dereference appears in 'diff --help' and 'info diffutils', but >>> not in 'man diff'. >> >> Thanks for the report, but that is unlikely to be a problem with this >> upstream diffutils package, since the man page (diff.1) is >> automatically generated from the output of diff --help, and the build >> machinery to do that has been in place for over a decade. I would >> suspect whatever installed your diff man pages or the configuration of >> your "man(1)" program -- maybe it is searching in the wrong place. > > Thanks for the reply. > I downloaded diffutils-3.3.tar.xz and in diffutils-3.3/man/diff.1 does > not appear the --no-dereference option. I don't know whether it is > re-generated at compile or install time... but at the moment that file > does not have the said option. Oh, I see that you are right! So this *is* a bug. Reopening and untagging. It looks like I managed to include a stale diff.1 (not including the then-new --no-dereference description) in the distribution tarball. That makes me think there is or was a missing dependency. I'll investigate and report back here. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 01 02:14:26 2015 Received: (at 21023) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2015 06:14:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44591 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWepu-0007JH-9d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 02:14:26 -0400 Received: from mail-vk0-f43.google.com ([209.85.213.43]:35495) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZWepr-0007J8-GL for 21023@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 02:14:24 -0400 Received: by vkaw128 with SMTP id w128so50749830vka.2 for <21023@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 23:14:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=D9tiMzw6FwfCfu3CAc/AOL0fqRp8n+W9jM1ei+RKIUY=; b=QzmQ/tX69R6FNnFE1ubJwg9b+4qfFYk0IOn2sqKf5Xb2e8HBac7UxW+AQfjK5h9Sm3 bZBUacw0ubRjUb1dJ/Dc1sqoeka6MHlOLnZ+oLo4cltxTleijGS+oUacheevJ20by4Jm LJgft6ucUk7CAfCp/vkZ7/X0O2nPnr6kkkoF6g2ZoGJWHJaBc2KybDKbFxUUqGRe/buf e9Vgabv85O2MTAquAyTF+LBB8m8eW4smLFLakiSKekC+kfwe070ws4FzkWA4Te0KhmHw WhSD0NwFq0ughfnA5HtyJTNUU1/OrFZKGDfpFVl2HH7EeMv3GbmEk6SZQJlPgwsCSO/H WDgg== X-Received: by 10.52.12.34 with SMTP id v2mr11020318vdb.38.1441088062671; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 23:14:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.61.8 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Aug 2015 23:14:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1436488977.5743.13.camel@scientia.net> From: Jim Meyering Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 23:14:02 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: pSA_ZmNUAIqihG6lA74076Sj1GY Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bug-diffutils] bug#21023: bug#21023: --no-dereference To: =?UTF-8?Q?Rodrigo_Vali=C3=B1a_Guti=C3=A9rrez?= Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=20cf303635e910e878051ea97694 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 21023 Cc: 21023@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --20cf303635e910e878051ea97694 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Jim Meyering wrote: > reopen 21023 > tags 21023 -notabug > thanks > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Rodrigo Vali=C3=B1a Guti=C3=A9rrez > wrote: >> On 8/31/15, Jim Meyering wrote: >>> tags 21023 notabug >>> thanks >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Rodrigo Vali=C3=B1a Guti=C3=A9rrez >>> wrote: >>>> --no-dereference appears in 'diff --help' and 'info diffutils', but >>>> not in 'man diff'. >>> >>> Thanks for the report, but that is unlikely to be a problem with this >>> upstream diffutils package, since the man page (diff.1) is >>> automatically generated from the output of diff --help, and the build >>> machinery to do that has been in place for over a decade. I would >>> suspect whatever installed your diff man pages or the configuration of >>> your "man(1)" program -- maybe it is searching in the wrong place. >> >> Thanks for the reply. >> I downloaded diffutils-3.3.tar.xz and in diffutils-3.3/man/diff.1 does >> not appear the --no-dereference option. I don't know whether it is >> re-generated at compile or install time... but at the moment that file >> does not have the said option. > > Oh, I see that you are right! So this *is* a bug. Reopening and untagging= . > It looks like I managed to include a stale diff.1 (not including the > then-new --no-dereference description) in the distribution tarball. > That makes me think there is or was a missing dependency. I'll > investigate and report back here. Found the bug. 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Here's the fix: Thanks again, Rodrigo. I've pushed that with a small improvement to help prevent a repeat of that problem: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/diffutils.git/commit/?id=2cd4ff3a5ff52d89 At the same time, I pushed a documentation-improving patch that had been collecting dust: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/diffutils.git/commit/?id=5801f8add854c84 From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:46:32 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator