From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:20:29 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#20900 <20900@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#20900 <20900@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 25.0.50; C-u - C-t should move point backward to have a usefully repeatable command Reply-To: bug#20900 <20900@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:20:29 +0000 retitle 20900 25.0.50; C-u - C-t should move point backward to have a usefu= lly repeatable command reassign 20900 emacs submitter 20900 Nicolas Richard severity 20900 minor thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 25 17:57:38 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2015 21:57:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57539 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8F9N-00007J-QW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:57:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42366) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8F9L-000073-La for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:57:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8F9F-0006CC-CV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:57:30 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:34992) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8F9F-0006C8-8x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:57:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55863) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8F9E-0003gz-6E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:57:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8F9A-0006Bm-5f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:57:28 -0400 Received: from mailrelay108.isp.belgacom.be ([195.238.20.135]:19814) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8F9A-0006Be-01 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:57:24 -0400 X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=E12Nk8Bf0hMlwhhcPGlCWJx/tbvGdtmOO6CYG/XBrkw= c=1 sm=2 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=cE3JKccQeKim3KlU-PwA:9 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A2A+LgAWeIxV/4YDyFBbgxGBGRqqZwEBAQEBAQUBBX+aRT0QAQEBAQEBAYEKQQEDAYQ5OxcNNAEEJTeIMwGoYqZghhyJRoELhBUBBJQGpAsmgUkBC2iBPzwxgkgBAQE Received: from 134.3-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO Aurora) ([80.200.3.134]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 25 Jun 2015 23:57:22 +0200 From: Nicolas Richard To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.0.50; C-u - C-t should move point backward to have a usefully repeatable command Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:57:22 +0200 Message-ID: <86pp4jlad9.fsf@members.fsf.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) In a line like this: aaaaaaaaxy with cursor on y (i.e. point is between x and y). Hitting C-u - C-t moves the 'x' backwards, but the cursor stays on 'y'. Thus hitting C-x z is mostly useless here. I expected cursor to move backward too. In fact this is a regression introduced by commit aa26f345096166bd8c135876dbab9b671ae232e3 Author: Chong Yidong Date: Fri Dec 21 13:42:59 2012 +0800 * simple.el (transpose-subr-1): Preserve marker positions by changing the insertion sequence. Fixes: debbugs:13122 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 01 16:39:49 2019 Received: (at 20900) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Aug 2019 20:39:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55480 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htHrZ-0004ar-Ju for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 16:39:49 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:46190) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htHrY-0004ai-2D for 20900@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 16:39:48 -0400 Received: from 77.18.62.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([77.18.62.220] helo=sandy) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1htHrU-0003k1-EJ; Thu, 01 Aug 2019 22:39:46 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Nicolas Richard Subject: Re: bug#20900: 25.0.50; C-u - C-t should move point backward to have a usefully repeatable command References: <86pp4jlad9.fsf@members.fsf.org> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2019 22:39:43 +0200 In-Reply-To: <86pp4jlad9.fsf@members.fsf.org> (Nicolas Richard's message of "Thu, 25 Jun 2015 23:57:22 +0200") Message-ID: <87blx8d3hs.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Nicolas Richard writes: > In a line like this: > aaaaaaaaxy > with cursor on y (i.e. point is between x and y). > > Hitting C-u - C-t moves the 'x' backwards, but the cursor stays on 'y'. > Thus hitting C-x z is mostly usele [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.0 TVD_RCVD_IP Message was received from an IP address -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20900 Cc: 20900@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Nicolas Richard writes: > In a line like this: > aaaaaaaaxy > with cursor on y (i.e. point is between x and y). > > Hitting C-u - C-t moves the 'x' backwards, but the cursor stays on 'y'. > Thus hitting C-x z is mostly useless here. I expected cursor to move > backward too. (I'm going through old bug reports that have unfortunately not gotten any responses.) I'm unable to reproduce this bug in Emacs 27, so I'm guessing that it's been fixed in the intervening years, and I'm closing this bug report. 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