From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 25 13:43:03 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2015 17:43:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57439 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8BB0-0002EW-Op for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:43:03 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57064) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8BAy-0002Dz-I5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:43:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8BAs-0005qF-6m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:42:55 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:38978) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8BAs-0005qB-4W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:42:54 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42329) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8BAr-0002nE-5e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:42:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8BAn-0005mn-Ua for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:42:53 -0400 Received: from mailrelay104.isp.belgacom.be ([195.238.20.131]:36335) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8BAn-0005m5-O9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:42:49 -0400 X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=q+I5ZojRYpfsGgKWd5b26Nq+BLH/ghHCO5xA85WVj4Q= c=1 sm=2 a=a4K5GIyuExAA:10 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=iO1jzdkvht9p6rhi7GAA:9 a=G06CP8d3ausA:10 a=GHVUr4oNYIoA:10 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A2DeCwBxPYxV/4YDyFBbgxFUX6pmAQEBAQEBBQEFf5EdCYFcCoc1ORQBAQEBAQEBgQpBBYNkAlM7JDQBBBQRUYgZAQioa6ZKBIYcilGEFQWUBoRYhDGbAiaBSYIzPDEBgkcBAQE Received: from 134.3-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO Aurora) ([80.200.3.134]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 25 Jun 2015 19:42:38 +0200 From: Nicolas Richard To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.0.50; Move landmark.el to elpa User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:42:38 +0200 Message-ID: <86ioabznu9.fsf@members.fsf.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) A bit of searching shows that landmark.el is not used much (if at all), and in fact causes confusion : https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2006-04/msg00294.html https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-06/msg00592.html In that thread, Stefan suggests to move landmark.el to GNU elpa. I want to give this a try. What's the procedure ? My current plan is : - move the file to lisp/obsolete/, - add a note to lisp/obsolete/landmark.el that it moved to GNU Elpa (like what was done for crisp.el) - mention these changes in ChangeLog and NEWS - copy the file to elpa.git, as packages/landmark/landmark.el - add a Maintainer header (who should that be ? the original author ?) and that's about it. Opinions and advices very welcome. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 25 19:21:44 2015 Received: (at 20898) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2015 23:21:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57569 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8GSl-000226-9f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:21:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37006) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8GSi-00021r-2h for 20898@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:21:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8GSa-00014R-Ex for 20898@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:21:34 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37601) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8GSX-0000u4-F8; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:21:29 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8GIB-0003dx-5v; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:10:47 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Nicolas Richard Subject: Re: bug#20898: 25.0.50; Move landmark.el to elpa References: <86ioabznu9.fsf@members.fsf.org> X-Spook: Hostage Looting 22nd SAS Nerve agent Smallpox Denial of X-Ran: zHD%edlsEj|Z~18>Z{&1c26[m-{SrS^V[IpAEU't4fB-u({yxbAs3K]][p,nIs X-Hue: red X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:10:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <86ioabznu9.fsf@members.fsf.org> (Nicolas Richard's message of "Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:42:38 +0200") Message-ID: <3lk2ur8juw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20898 Cc: 20898@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) Nicolas Richard wrote: > My current plan is : > - move the file to lisp/obsolete/, > - add a note to lisp/obsolete/landmark.el that it moved to GNU Elpa > (like what was done for crisp.el) > - mention these changes in ChangeLog and NEWS > - copy the file to elpa.git, as packages/landmark/landmark.el Sounds good, thank you. > - add a Maintainer header (who should that be ? the original author ?) I think the honest answer is that it has no maintainer. I'd either leave it with no Maintainer header (which by convention means the author), or add one that says help wanted. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 07 06:43:50 2015 Received: (at 20898-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2015 10:43:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42979 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCQLu-0002vr-0u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 06:43:50 -0400 Received: from nm30-vm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com ([212.82.97.83]:48040) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCQLs-0002ve-2g for 20898-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 06:43:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1436265820; bh=3zHBMgtA4EAOO/i0889ZNvJlywZ3oXTGjSo4QJ5Bfzw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=ldAqx3+ylMNIpC9le5Cnc0djKr57b9qzMjBNJ9oqd62OwgEki9XQqzT61Cmt+H6XKQaXc04k4dnJRWEu1bZ35EQ0AjeifNwxOckqIxMiDFd3Bns++Cwo3IVf6Gz4SnEVx4SUv7WqxC6e/VS1AkuSZX9fgbTC1PZD9DLmDRpiwjAgr+WQeg1CCsetaeFpNSR8jzdBoxeg0IHe4qjVfGzwpNl8CHhA9ujJ0604DBdnywFbnD9Rsb34ZwfPNboSua42Ram8HEas9iaioh8YV6hGOFExbSiojTBI4sq17+W57mT11nV9VOP+/JW/Y5FM+wwAdY0NKSayYMs1khGMPVfUJQ== Received: from [212.82.98.127] by nm30.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2015 10:43:40 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.76] by tm20.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2015 10:43:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp113.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jul 2015 10:43:40 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 862075.58129.bm@smtp113.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: cZ6d8xkVM1npHnkVYaoez0YqxRpict_83ZHWy1cYS..8b4c NYJaSVtM7dLA0NOb97L8XXyZMx.gNxKlJsqFEX00Kl55blUfun42qM2izy0G j7QHLgX8RhbXE98G1qWaLhFr0_Vaq7jzAGl1T00KZt4iyOIWNiD7ZX5i4DOj E5JXdkxXxGNu4OgjoRFVU89ELz.giIJdlbUaTut21thO7s4YUBO2O.uqegvr lYCymxWzc9qHJwA0S4EIl7PwtIzpJ_Nsyf8f6R0VfY_CQRQumDxI7i_Jj88S r9M.eI3W8vSTvsMcRaIuj1hTx_KDymkAr_Ftu6WmZyh84TKYPZCGA.WSJKRZ itH0zLpPfXXeat2sifM5xxh5dQcUsOWqMCEm2QNdnRY9CSgHeC9r3oRU9eX_ uoOdmewl4uGtVKjQBaetx2IzAW276ybDXCH4DnBYRcV0ydU4CqAJycz_g6L2 oAfnyjuOsYi8Omq9CJybF0ODoXaOPMFoGVftcBEkYRQEwUsl.4ImYNo7Dq7G 83nQurHVD58C0GLJWGy8bfYKsACI0lbIClBv3TsxV_m69HlogBMX1_Cn4VkA - X-Yahoo-SMTP: 62rWct2swBAqKO_y6KiyXe3pZRcxSSoYuFEwRLrH6M41hw-- From: Nicolas Richard To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#20898: 25.0.50; Move landmark.el to elpa References: <86ioabznu9.fsf@members.fsf.org> <3lk2ur8juw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2015 12:43:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <3lk2ur8juw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 25 Jun 2015 19:10:47 -0400") Message-ID: <86pp446yec.fsf@members.fsf.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20898-done Cc: 20898-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Finally marking as done. Sorry for the long delay. Glenn Morris writes: > Nicolas Richard wrote: >> - add a Maintainer header (who should that be ? the original author ?) > I think the honest answer is that it has no maintainer. > I'd either leave it with no Maintainer header (which by convention means > the author), or add one that says help wanted. Since the requirement for ELPA is to have such a header, I went for the second option. Nicolas. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 07 20:01:53 2015 Received: (at 20898) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jul 2015 00:01:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43789 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCcoD-00016V-BF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 20:01:53 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com ([209.85.212.180]:34409) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCcoB-00016G-At for 20898@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 20:01:51 -0400 Received: by wifm2 with SMTP id m2so73992732wif.1 for <20898@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 17:01:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=fAfOP2F3y15jkYM/zEuMiL3YbmbT0Ffe1Mk4y5KNeDI=; b=c3D2qQvofUtr9E470xYej7uojs/ELWgv4otaykDaZfJKKyxvMqYv4tqADSeH++KBKU O999zS1+Q+RRi5xhDjI+c+JsO6d44dtmb4qi+HP1Xoucwjo+n45ltz4dWKsPr490CavE JiE27QCgrhIYzN64Ztz0YajW48AB0J+rTqls4RQO0qh4RcPRqOHj3cF0OSdhjCr+dNXS DcZfkTHhZC3Ukm2ICSZdSLZlEvZ0Fo3yuCXT2SNVij39oKD7SI5yyysERv0rFm4bW/v8 vDvptAWSJdtOR3Y/oE/MauUjjNt6FWqTcUUWuseI1EIWVVgBDC4dju8IJ+R6g7rRi0aI wdXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.96.1 with SMTP id do1mr63844323wib.37.1436313705718; Tue, 07 Jul 2015 17:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.70.230 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 17:01:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86pp446yec.fsf@members.fsf.org> References: <86ioabznu9.fsf@members.fsf.org> <3lk2ur8juw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <86pp446yec.fsf@members.fsf.org> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 08:01:45 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#20898: 25.0.50; Move landmark.el to elpa From: Xue Fuqiao To: 20898@debbugs.gnu.org, youngfrog@members.fsf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20898 Cc: Glenn Morris X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 6:43 PM, Nicolas Richard wrote: > > Finally marking as done. Sorry for the long delay. Thank you! Does the obsoleted landmark.el need an "Obsolete-since" header? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 08 01:57:10 2015 Received: (at 20898) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jul 2015 05:57:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43881 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCiM2-0000pd-9I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2015 01:57:10 -0400 Received: from nm24-vm5.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com ([212.82.97.29]:45382) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCiLz-0000pQ-TE for 20898@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2015 01:57:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1436335021; bh=TDI7gR5KgWdqGie5a32AKLgugk7JJLsIJb6c8myl5iw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From:Subject; b=G4/mB6XslDrC1xP3nLrhBodqngPvjdBDoR2CAV5SMFlw4Sj/2acZPP9BkwxduHVNNiSFiaW9myHbDxoXxValQlX+P8jVi/gH+jzdyY0cS0W/zGlOdcI+6PU/1N8brY/m/4+FQjIcyB+TyVvqNNbUh8j6j9d4BUluccWEs822B8sdGnHO7c2elEMmLs3XDkn66pBz/6PK8fysDSbgHTVtBrPjvNMIsxXh32Ygd4tF0DFX/rMegzr/77DIYekNGGPhc9oOjy4D3SiWBAf5Tj4a8KiewbX9LbfTXuOQSwJrLc/Oa5ZGZpT0gYB0qXHtF335nvnLpTuWDVazfM9rH3MWCg== Received: from [212.82.98.51] by nm24.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2015 05:57:01 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.80] by tm4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2015 05:57:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2015 05:57:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 786831.38263.bm@smtp117.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: JbKpf3YVM1kb8UoaAjWm6gposnH7ZjrKL3K25zXxpY9GgQN efWiZCxzDK20dUavO9idLV_CH59t.0xOMRYvs4rt1kESM8isEsU8r6DNyqeq Lm_IVBNfpOxCGXlTkQ9FePOh66SfuYqyo_rBfgYrohfuCpoolh56JNi4a05T V8IprHuFhgSBi7QLEGtQbgItfeJyN4rubfFbPCVYH3sAf8_y6vJQB.3ogTx1 c3VL7.h7nAfPIeZS64B_VkJUfAGoebNob.qVI_5weyIzj4q3UBzSQipn4dEj VlJPaATrO3oT81sgekK3vzB4Dq84i1kzVrCEAQxXtOi0DYmBwwyyAnIobIxu qoJEVcM7afEi9eJYZyVfCS4nPNZP.9FSLwiNo26MTMovtrydGDtFM_41VYYv Vey27r5Ncz94xnO0Q.bbdEJ63bs9mISL4Pcfar4uFs6yf8EUQMdGown77oY4 pauZlnU_Ry0XJeTXgboj02unhiRiWOPYkylC9YjMLQvnKklZkmd_smsvKq.4 0J24tHjtuRJh2dr14hr8K57Umyp4ZjaapQ3JMldQGfQu94P2o7DWWAIzO1af TpjNQgg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: 62rWct2swBAqKO_y6KiyXe3pZRcxSSoYuFEwRLrH6M41hw-- From: Nicolas Richard To: Xue Fuqiao Subject: Re: bug#20898: 25.0.50; Move landmark.el to elpa In-Reply-To: (Xue Fuqiao's message of "Wed, 8 Jul 2015 08:01:45 +0800") References: <86ioabznu9.fsf@members.fsf.org> <3lk2ur8juw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <86pp446yec.fsf@members.fsf.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 07:57:00 +0200 Message-ID: <86615vxkcz.fsf@members.fsf.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20898 Cc: Glenn Morris , 20898@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Xue Fuqiao writes: > Does the obsoleted landmark.el need an "Obsolete-since" > header? Indeed, thanks for noticing. Done now. Nico. From unknown Sun Aug 17 01:42:41 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator