From unknown Fri Jun 13 10:51:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20815: 25.0.50; doc of `null' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 20815 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 20815@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.143432044828856 (code B ref -1); Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:21:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jun 2015 22:20:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54100 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4GGk-0007VL-11 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:20:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60399) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4GGh-0007V7-CS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:20:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4GGb-0000eg-Hs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:20:38 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:57690) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4GGb-0000ec-7P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:20:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45673) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4GGZ-0002dL-Ty for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:20:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4GGT-0000ca-3Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:20:35 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:30321) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4GGS-0000c1-Te for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:20:29 -0400 Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t5EMKQsC031113 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:20:26 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t5EMKP6l024030 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:20:25 GMT Received: from abhmp0006.oracle.com (abhmp0006.oracle.com [141.146.116.12]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t5EMKP0W000678 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:20:25 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:20:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) The doc string should make clear that this is a Boolean predicate. Currently it says only "Return t if OBJECT is nil. It should also say "Return nil if OBJECT is non-nil. The Elisp manual (node `List-related Predicates' (which should be written `List-Related Predicates') is OK. It says what the return value is if OBJECT is not nil. In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-10-20 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 118168 rgm@gnu.org-20141020195941-icp42t8ttcnud09g Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs CPPFLAGS=3D-DGLYPH_DEBUG=3D1' From unknown Fri Jun 13 10:51:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20815: 25.0.50; doc of `null' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20815 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 20815@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20815-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20815.143432112029879 (code B ref 20815); Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:32:02 +0000 Received: (at 20815) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jun 2015 22:32:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54106 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4GRb-0007lr-0I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:31:59 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:48435) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4GRY-0007le-QZ for 20815@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:31:57 -0400 Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t5EMVnB2001824 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <20815@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:31:50 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t5EMVmJa002781 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for <20815@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:31:49 GMT Received: from abhmp0006.oracle.com (abhmp0006.oracle.com [141.146.116.12]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t5EMVm9N002992 for <20815@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:31:48 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <5bec299c-bc7b-414b-8ea1-77e9ee0fdc91@default> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:31:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams References: In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) BTW, the URL for the online manual is not good for this node. Following the convention, it should be simply http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/List-related-Predi= cates.html But it is instead: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/List_002drelated-P= redicates.html Somehow, the hyphen got translated to `_002d', unhelpfully. It is good to follow a consistent convention. I take advantage of that, for example, in this command, which I use several times a day to point Web readers to the manual (e.g. from stackoverflow and emacs.stackexchange.com): (defun Info-goto-node-web (node &optional flip-new-win) "Use `browse-url' to go to Info node NODE using a Web browser. With a prefix arg, reverse the effect of option option`browse-url-new-window-flag'. NODE is the name of a node in the GNU Emacs or Elisp manual. Alternatively, NODE can have the form (MANUAL)NODE, where MANUAL is \"emacs\" or \"elisp\" and NODE is the name of the node in that manual. Empty NODE in (MANUAL) defaults to the `Top' node." (interactive (list (Info-read-node-name "Go to node: " Info-current-node) current-prefix-arg)) (require 'browse-url) (unless Info-current-file (error "This command must be invoked from Info"= )) (browse-url (Info-url-for-node node) (list (if flip-new-win (not browse-url-new-window-flag) browse-url-new-window-flag)))) `Info-url-for-node' returns "a URL for NODE, a node in the GNU Emacs or Elisp manual." It does this: (replace-regexp-in-string "[ \t]+" "-" node t t). That doesn't DTRT for the node reported in this bug report, for example. From unknown Fri Jun 13 10:51:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20815: 25.0.50; doc of `null' Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 02:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20815 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 20815@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 20815-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20815.143433587018745 (code B ref 20815); Mon, 15 Jun 2015 02:38:02 +0000 Received: (at 20815) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jun 2015 02:37:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54143 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4KHV-0004sG-8T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:37:49 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:58607) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4KHR-0004s1-Fa for 20815@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:37:47 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NPY00800SMM1M00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 20815@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 05:37:39 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NPY007XVSMQYP50@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 05:37:39 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 05:37:23 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <5bec299c-bc7b-414b-8ea1-77e9ee0fdc91@default> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <834mm9puho.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5bec299c-bc7b-414b-8ea1-77e9ee0fdc91@default> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:31:46 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > > BTW, the URL for the online manual is not good for this node. > > Following the convention, it should be simply > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/List-related-Predicates.html > > But it is instead: > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/List_002drelated-Predicates.html > > Somehow, the hyphen got translated to `_002d', unhelpfully. Hex 2d is the codepoint of the hyphen. Makeinfo converts all punctuation characters like that, so the only hyphens left in the node's name are those that were spaces before. IOW, it's a feature. From unknown Fri Jun 13 10:51:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20815: 25.0.50; doc of `null' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 05:35:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20815 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Cc: 20815@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20815-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20815.14343464442140 (code B ref 20815); Mon, 15 Jun 2015 05:35:03 +0000 Received: (at 20815) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jun 2015 05:34:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54161 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4N23-0000YK-4B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 01:34:03 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:35588) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4N21-0000Xq-Ev for 20815@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 01:34:02 -0400 Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t5F5Xss1023258 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 15 Jun 2015 05:33:55 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t5F5XsZ7023322 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 15 Jun 2015 05:33:54 GMT Received: from abhmp0006.oracle.com (abhmp0006.oracle.com [141.146.116.12]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t5F5Xs85010540; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 05:33:54 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:33:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams References: <> <<5bec299c-bc7b-414b-8ea1-77e9ee0fdc91@default>> <<834mm9puho.fsf@gnu.org>> In-Reply-To: <<834mm9puho.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) > > Somehow, the hyphen got translated to `_002d', unhelpfully. >=20 > Hex 2d is the codepoint of the hyphen. Makeinfo converts all > punctuation characters like that, so the only hyphens left in the > node's name are those that were spaces before. >=20 > IOW, it's a feature. Too bad, but OK. It's unrelated to this bug, anyway. From unknown Fri Jun 13 10:51:39 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20815: 25.0.50; doc of `null' Resent-From: Nicolas Petton Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 19:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20815 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 20815-done@debbugs.gnu.org, 20815@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20815-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20815.143448436917426 (code B ref 20815); Tue, 16 Jun 2015 19:53:02 +0000 Received: (at 20815) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jun 2015 19:52:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56286 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4wuf-0004Wz-4W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:52:49 -0400 Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]:35453) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4wub-0004Wj-W5 for 20815@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:52:46 -0400 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1039920184 for <20815@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:52:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:52:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=PFlzCqEI9KUdqN20cUZU+58icR8=; b=NPzyE 4B2jT4FoRpiEpTjXGVBYvRqi0/EQNrKXxuHeot+hbpexp9BVXHIELX9jeCXam+p4 hspfPyaQyIEzEmW3ryojD7EwWc63fWGND5WDmTv3WRN4slyNxnrArraDLZQsMBjs cbRTz7Wx8q3ZftVcdsaVBlFnrbUSqfL41iminM= X-Sasl-enc: XFCxOm6E77a7kSdvVaV3kkgsTdCjI4pySrlL5OhaMlQ6 1434484364 Received: from blueberry (unknown [80.216.74.58]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 44E0768009D; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:52:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Petton References: Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 21:52:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:20:23 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87twu7xwfp.fsf@petton.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Drew Adams writes: > The doc string should make clear that this is a Boolean > predicate. Currently it says only "Return t if OBJECT is > nil. It should also say "Return nil if OBJECT is non-nil. I pushed a fix (commit deb6e89). Nico -- Nicolas Petton http://nicolas-petton.fr From unknown Fri Jun 13 10:51:39 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.503 (Entity 5.503) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Drew Adams Subject: bug#20815: closed (Re: bug#20815: 25.0.50; doc of `null') Message-ID: References: <87twu7xwfp.fsf@petton.fr> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 20815 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 20815@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 19:53:05 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1434484385-17461-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1434484385-17461-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #20815: 25.0.50; doc of `null' which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 20815@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 20815: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D20815 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1434484385-17461-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 20815-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jun 2015 19:52:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56288 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4wuf-0004X1-Id for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:52:50 -0400 Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]:56118) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4wub-0004Wk-W7 for 20815-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:52:46 -0400 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1453A2026A for <20815-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:52:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:52:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=PFlzCqEI9KUdqN20cUZU+58icR8=; b=NPzyE 4B2jT4FoRpiEpTjXGVBYvRqi0/EQNrKXxuHeot+hbpexp9BVXHIELX9jeCXam+p4 hspfPyaQyIEzEmW3ryojD7EwWc63fWGND5WDmTv3WRN4slyNxnrArraDLZQsMBjs cbRTz7Wx8q3ZftVcdsaVBlFnrbUSqfL41iminM= X-Sasl-enc: XFCxOm6E77a7kSdvVaV3kkgsTdCjI4pySrlL5OhaMlQ6 1434484364 Received: from blueberry (unknown [80.216.74.58]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 44E0768009D; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:52:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Petton To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#20815: 25.0.50; doc of `null' References: Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 21:52:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:20:23 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87twu7xwfp.fsf@petton.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20815-done Cc: 20815-done@debbugs.gnu.org, 20815@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Drew Adams writes: > The doc string should make clear that this is a Boolean > predicate. Currently it says only "Return t if OBJECT is > nil. It should also say "Return nil if OBJECT is non-nil. I pushed a fix (commit deb6e89). Nico -- Nicolas Petton http://nicolas-petton.fr ------------=_1434484385-17461-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jun 2015 22:20:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54100 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4GGk-0007VL-11 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:20:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60399) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4GGh-0007V7-CS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:20:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4GGb-0000eg-Hs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:20:38 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:57690) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4GGb-0000ec-7P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:20:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45673) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4GGZ-0002dL-Ty for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:20:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4GGT-0000ca-3Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:20:35 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:30321) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4GGS-0000c1-Te for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:20:29 -0400 Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t5EMKQsC031113 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:20:26 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t5EMKP6l024030 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:20:25 GMT Received: from abhmp0006.oracle.com (abhmp0006.oracle.com [141.146.116.12]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t5EMKP0W000678 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:20:25 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:20:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.0.50; doc of `null' X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) The doc string should make clear that this is a Boolean predicate. Currently it says only "Return t if OBJECT is nil. It should also say "Return nil if OBJECT is non-nil. The Elisp manual (node `List-related Predicates' (which should be written `List-Related Predicates') is OK. It says what the return value is if OBJECT is not nil. In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-10-20 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 118168 rgm@gnu.org-20141020195941-icp42t8ttcnud09g Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs CPPFLAGS=3D-DGLYPH_DEBUG=3D1' ------------=_1434484385-17461-1--