From monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Fri May 9 08:45:59 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=4.0 tests=AWL,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 9 May 2008 15:46:00 +0000 Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (mercure.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.67]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m49FjqlV013719 for ; Fri, 9 May 2008 08:45:54 -0700 Received: by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2B5C52CFCD9; Fri, 9 May 2008 11:45:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Received: from pinpin.iro.umontreal.ca (pinpin.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.52]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1C32CFCCD for ; Fri, 9 May 2008 11:45:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by pinpin.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11B13B8AA7 for ; Fri, 9 May 2008 11:45:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48622 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JuUn3-0003TZ-Bn for monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; Fri, 09 May 2008 11:45:45 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JuUmU-0003OP-5P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 11:45:10 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JuUmT-0003O0-Al for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 11:45:09 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56016 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JuUmT-0003Nu-3R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 11:45:09 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:32831) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JuUmS-0008BM-F4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 11:45:08 -0400 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:34749) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JuUli-0000vN-30 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 11:44:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JuUmN-0008AX-RT for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 11:45:07 -0400 Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]:45011) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JuUmN-00089z-5b for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 09 May 2008 11:45:03 -0400 Received: from rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (rgmgw1.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.110]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id m49FixgL017379 for ; Fri, 9 May 2008 10:45:00 -0500 Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id m49Fiwes016821 for ; Fri, 9 May 2008 09:44:58 -0600 Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3669645201210347879; Fri, 09 May 2008 08:44:39 -0700 Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.64.150) by bhmail.oracle.com (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 09 May 2008 08:44:29 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 08:44:29 -0700 Message-ID: <000301c8b1eb$91f6f150$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acix65FuC+5IEeHaRayYUWh+IxfTJg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Cc: Subject: 23.0.60; `l' in Info skips last visited node X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+monnier=iro.umontreal.ca@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+monnier=iro.umontreal.ca@gnu.org X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.49, requis 5, BAYES_00 -2.60, MC_AFFAIRE 0.11, SPF_HELO_PASS -0.00) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: emacs-devel-bounces+monnier=iro.umontreal.ca@gnu.org emacs -Q C-h i, choose Elisp manual. g Customization Types m d TAB RET, to go to node Defining New Types SPC SPC to get to node Loading l This takes you back to node Customization, not to the last visited node, which is Defining New Types, or even to the node visited just before that, which is Customization Types. Node Customization is the grandparent of the last visited node, and it was never even visited. This behavior contradicts what a user expects, which is a strict chronological navigation, unrelated to the hierarchical manual organization. It also contradicts what the doc of `l' says it is supposed to do: "Go back in the history to the last node visited." Likewise, the Info tutorial says this about `l': "`l' command (`l' for "last") will do that, one node-step at a time. As you move from node to node, Info records the nodes where you have been in a special history list. The `l' command revisits nodes in the history list; each successive `l' command moves one step back through the history." `l' is not in fact moving one step through the history list. In fact, it is even moving to nodes that are not on the history list (never visited). The doc is not wrong about what `l' should do; it is the actual behavior that is wrong. `l' should act like the `Back' button of a Web browser; it should totally ignore book structure and stick to the navigation history. In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2008-05-04 on LENNART-69DE564 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/g/include -fno-crossjumping' From cyd@stupidchicken.com Thu Aug 14 21:57:52 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_PBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 208) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Aug 2008 04:57:52 +0000 Received: from furry (c-24-63-201-57.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.63.201.57]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7F4vnNE001944 for <208@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:57:50 -0700 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 25BCAC056; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:57:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 208@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: 23.0.60; `l' in Info skips last visited node Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:57:44 -0400 Message-ID: <87tzdmub7b.fsf@stupidchicken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > C-h i, choose Elisp manual. > g Customization Types > m d TAB RET, to go to node Defining New Types > SPC SPC to get to node Loading > l > > This takes you back to node Customization, not to the last visited > node, which is Defining New Types, or even to the node visited just > before that, which is Customization Types. Node Customization is the > grandparent of the last visited node, and it was never even visited. I can't reproduce this. Do you still see this? From drew.adams@oracle.com Thu Aug 14 22:23:06 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.1 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 208) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Aug 2008 05:23:06 +0000 Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com (rgminet01.oracle.com [148.87.113.118]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7F5N3xj010203 for <208@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:23:04 -0700 Received: from agmgw1.us.oracle.com (agmgw1.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.212]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id m7F5MudW023804; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:22:56 -0600 Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by agmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m7F4D6ul028517; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:22:56 -0600 Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt358.oracle.com with ESMTP id 11500312671218777674; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:21:14 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/69.181.100.12) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:21:14 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Chong Yidong'" Cc: <208@debbugs.gnu.org> References: <87tzdmub7b.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Subject: RE: 23.0.60; `l' in Info skips last visited node Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:21:12 -0700 Message-ID: <001f01c8fe96$bc0ac0f0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87tzdmub7b.fsf@stupidchicken.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acj+k6OxIs3S/sfIR3mdP8kEZwP2ZwAAckKg X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE > From: Chong Yidong Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 9:58 PM > > C-h i, choose Elisp manual. > > g Customization Types > > m d TAB RET, to go to node Defining New Types > > SPC SPC to get to node Loading > > l > > > > This takes you back to node Customization, not to the last visited > > node, which is Defining New Types, or even to the node visited just > > before that, which is Customization Types. Node Customization is the > > grandparent of the last visited node, and it was never even visited. > > I can't reproduce this. Do you still see this? No, it seems to be fixed now. Thanks. FYI - I check with some previous builds I have, and it looks like this was fixed between a build on 2008-05-04 and a build on 2008-05-29. From cyd@stupidchicken.com Fri Aug 15 06:40:40 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_PBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Aug 2008 13:40:41 +0000 Received: from furry (c-24-63-201-57.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.63.201.57]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7FDebeQ003645 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 06:40:38 -0700 Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4AE29C056; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:40:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close fixed bugs Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:40:32 -0400 Message-ID: <878wuys8fj.fsf@stupidchicken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii close 208 close 601 thanks From juri@jurta.org Fri Aug 15 11:55:51 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 208-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Aug 2008 18:55:51 +0000 Received: from anti-4.kiev.sovam.com (anti-4.kiev.sovam.com [62.64.120.202]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7FItlKf004628 for <208-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:55:48 -0700 Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by anti-4.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KU4Sf-000FSP-KP; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:55:45 +0300 From: Juri Linkov To: Drew Adams Cc: 208-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong Subject: Re: bug#208: 23.0.60; `l' in Info skips last visited node Organization: JURTA References: <87tzdmub7b.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <001f01c8fe96$bc0ac0f0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:52:55 +0300 In-Reply-To: <001f01c8fe96$bc0ac0f0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:21:12 -0700") Message-ID: <8763q23ybg.fsf@jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Scanner-Signature: 8abf2c83e696415c40c55866f9369f42 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Trusted X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 4791 [Aug 15 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: {received from trusted relay: common white list} X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: white ip list X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Trusted X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: trusted X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release >> > C-h i, choose Elisp manual. >> > g Customization Types >> > m d TAB RET, to go to node Defining New Types >> > SPC SPC to get to node Loading >> > l >> > >> > This takes you back to node Customization, not to the last visited >> > node, which is Defining New Types, or even to the node visited just >> > before that, which is Customization Types. Node Customization is the >> > grandparent of the last visited node, and it was never even visited. >> >> I can't reproduce this. Do you still see this? > > No, it seems to be fixed now. Thanks. > > FYI - I check with some previous builds I have, and it looks like this was fixed > between a build on 2008-05-04 and a build on 2008-05-29. This was fixed with http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/96895/focus=96954 -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/ From drew.adams@oracle.com Fri Aug 15 13:00:17 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at 208-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Aug 2008 20:00:18 +0000 Received: from agminet01.oracle.com (agminet01.oracle.com [141.146.126.228]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m7FK0ESe024459 for <208-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:00:15 -0700 Received: from rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (rgmgw1.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.110]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id m7FK04je009892; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:00:05 -0500 Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id m7FDMISB002502; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:00:02 -0600 Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 11512732991218830359; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:59:19 -0700 Received: from dradamslap1 (/69.181.100.12) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:59:19 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Juri Linkov'" Cc: <208-done@debbugs.gnu.org>, "'Chong Yidong'" References: <87tzdmub7b.fsf@stupidchicken.com><001f01c8fe96$bc0ac0f0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <8763q23ybg.fsf@jurta.org> Subject: RE: bug#208: 23.0.60; `l' in Info skips last visited node Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:59:20 -0700 Message-ID: <004f01c8ff11$689a51d0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <8763q23ybg.fsf@jurta.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acj/CLMebx5mkP5tS7Wlg5n6sx4GAQACJ94w X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE > >> I can't reproduce this. Do you still see this? > > > > No, it seems to be fixed now. Thanks. > > > > FYI - I check with some previous builds I have, and it > > looks like this was fixed > > between a build on 2008-05-04 and a build on 2008-05-29. > > This was fixed with > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/96895/focus=96954 Thanks, Juri. From unknown Sat Jun 21 03:06:25 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: $requester Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # A New Hope # A log time ago, in a galaxy far, far away # something happened. # # Magically this resulted in the following # action being taken, but this fake control # message doesn't tell you why it happened # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator