From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 11 21:05:19 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jun 2015 01:05:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51153 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3DPK-0004n6-RZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:05:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43772) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3DPI-0004ml-8J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:05:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3DPC-0002Vz-5u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:05:11 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52567) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3DPC-0002TA-3j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:05:10 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3DNC-0000iE-2h; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:03:06 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: display-warning early in startup sequence can be hidden X-Spook: rs9512c Shootout Euskadi ta Askatasuna John Kerry X-Ran: Dmpovx`'AynYZ66"<=[l)e?FLOsV:I7u-Z[B|oIyT>,J,600}y,$ User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Package: emacs Version: 25.0.50 If display-warning gets called early in the startup sequence (before command-line?), the resulting *Warnings* buffer isn't displayed when startup ends. Eg fontset error in bug#20789, default-directory error in bug#18851. If there were errors in the init-file, command-line doesn't just call display-warning, instead it adds it to after-init-hook, so as to "Postpone displaying the warning until [...] changes in the windowconfiguration." Perhaps display-warning should automatically do the equivalent of that when called during startup? Or perhaps if there is a *Warnings* buffer at the end of startup, it should be shown unconditionally? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 11 21:09:12 2015 Received: (at 20792) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jun 2015 01:09:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51159 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3DT6-0004sx-Hj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:09:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44771) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3DT4-0004sj-LI for 20792@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:09:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3DSy-0004I6-KN for 20792@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:09:05 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52612) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3DSy-0004I0-Hd for 20792@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:09:04 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3DSy-0007fN-1C; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:09:04 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 20792@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#20792: display-warning early in startup sequence can be hidden References: X-Spook: Exon Shell munitions CIKR Crypto AG ASPIC Colombia Vince X-Ran: )gN0zf_(s>hYlOc\Jap)i3y;'[jJ)6tU5PFZQj8FpCJ6G\r^fEx5WP#lWOACivA!o0A.E( X-Hue: cyan X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:09:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:03:05 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20792 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Glenn Morris wrote: > Perhaps display-warning should automatically do the equivalent of that > when called during startup? > > Or perhaps if there is a *Warnings* buffer at the end of startup, it > should be shown unconditionally? ... or maybe 'delay-warning' should be used instead for startup warnings. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 12 22:27:21 2015 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2015 02:27:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52207 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3bAH-0001RH-2u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 22:27:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37395) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3bAF-0001Qw-3u for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 22:27:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3bA8-0004oU-Vh for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 22:27:13 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57885) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3bA8-0004oQ-SK for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 22:27:12 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3bA7-0001bA-PR for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2015 22:27:12 -0400 Subject: control message for bug 20792 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.99.98) Message-Id: From: Glenn Morris Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 22:27:11 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) close 20792 25.1 From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:39:20 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator