From unknown Sun Jun 22 08:08:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20788: 24.4; Nicolas Petton's key not included in GNU keyring Resent-From: William G. Gardella Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 20788 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 20788@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.143405708524095 (code B ref -1); Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:12:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2015 21:11:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51055 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z39kx-0006GY-3C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:11:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52016) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z39kt-0006GE-4R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:11:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z39kh-0001TH-Vh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:11:13 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:55221) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z39kh-0001T4-Sx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:11:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37261) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z39ke-0000yr-CZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:11:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z39kZ-0001AS-9c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:11:04 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:46315) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z39kY-0001AO-Ph for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:10:59 -0400 Received: from berryeater.riseup.net (berryeater-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.120]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4E1C4178E for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:10:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: wgreenhouse) with ESMTPSA id ECFF34007B From: William G. Gardella Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:10:51 +0000 Message-ID: <87wpzac5no.fsf@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at mx1 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Emacs 24.5 as uploaded to https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/emacs-24.5.tar.xz with the signature at https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/emacs-24.5.tar.xz.sig is allegedly signed by Nicolas Petton with long ID 0x233587A47C207910, but the GNU keyring at https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-keyring.gpg does not include this key. Please correct this in case users are relying on the GNU keyring and have no web of trust to Nicolas. In GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (x86_64-slackware-linux-gnu) of 2015-03-06 on aporia Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11403000 Configured using: `configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --program-prefix= --program-suffix= --mandir=/usr/man --infodir=/usr/info --without-gconf --without-gsettings --with-x --with-x-toolkit=no --with-m17n-flt --build=x86_64-slackware-linux 'CFLAGS=-O2 -fPIC'' Important settings: value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Group Minor modes in effect: gnus-agent-group-mode: t gnus-topic-mode: t semantic-minor-modes-format: ((:eval (if (or semantic-highlight-edits-mode semantic-show-unmatched-syntax-mode semantic-idle-scheduler-mode) S))) pdf-occur-global-minor-mode: t erc-services-mode: t erc-autoaway-mode: t erc-dcc-mode: t gnus-undo-mode: t global-rainbow-delimiters-mode: t rainbow-delimiters-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-pair-mode: t winner-mode: t display-time-mode: t recentf-mode: t savehist-mode: t xterm-mouse-mode: t global-magit-wip-save-mode: t magit-auto-revert-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t erc-list-mode: t erc-menu-mode: t erc-autojoin-mode: t erc-ring-mode: t erc-networks-mode: t erc-pcomplete-mode: t erc-match-mode: t erc-netsplit-mode: t erc-hl-nicks-mode: t erc-button-mode: t erc-fill-mode: t erc-stamp-mode: t erc-irccontrols-mode: t erc-noncommands-mode: t erc-keep-place-mode: t erc-move-to-prompt-mode: t erc-readonly-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: i n SPC f a c t , SPC e v e n SPC m y SPC o l d SPC a c c o u n o w n SPC a c c o u n t SPC w h i c h SPC h a s SPC m a n y SPC o f SPC t h e SPC g n u SPC k e y r i n g s SPC d o e s n ' t SPC M-b M-b M-f k e y s SPC i n SPC i t s SPC r i n g s C-a M-f M-f M-f M-f M-f r e a l SPC u s e r C-e k n o w SPC t h a t SPC o n e . C-x b C-p C-p M-f M-f M-f M-f M-b C-k M-> g p g SPC - - s e a r c h - k e y s SPC C-y C-x b a SPC k e y s e r v e r SPC k e y SPC c l a i m s SPC i t ' s SPC n N i c o l a s SPC P e t t o n ' s . 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(buffers 960 456) (heap 1024 403609 54516)) From unknown Sun Jun 22 08:08:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20788: 24.4; Nicolas Petton's key not included in GNU keyring Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20788 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: William G. Gardella Cc: 20788@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20788-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20788.143405854026273 (code B ref 20788); Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:36:02 +0000 Received: (at 20788) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2015 21:35:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51061 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3A8Q-0006pf-Ux for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:35:39 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56491) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3A8O-0006pS-VF for 20788@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:35:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3A8H-0001Lc-Pn for 20788@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:35:31 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49743) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3A8F-0001EI-C8; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:35:27 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3A7Y-0000c3-LH; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:34:44 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <87wpzac5no.fsf@example.com> X-Spook: WMATA Erosion credit card Bacteria Chemical fire enigma X-Ran: =t-|@IPhU5CX.A8^iS-w,b^xX.et!f%1\f}tN]Oma#n3Kialnm%vVMV2UXT%9Er{xej15E X-Hue: magenta X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:34:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wpzac5no.fsf@example.com> (William G. Gardella's message of "Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:10:51 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) William G. Gardella wrote: > Emacs 24.5 as uploaded to > https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/emacs-24.5.tar.xz with the signature at > https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/emacs-24.5.tar.xz.sig > is allegedly signed by Nicolas Petton with long ID 0x233587A47C207910, > but the GNU keyring at https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-keyring.gpg > does not include this key. This is a duplicate of http://debbugs.gnu.org/20298. I repeat my comment from http://debbugs.gnu.org/20298#23: Nobody here can do anything about this, it's a GNU sysadmin issue. It's been reported to them, nothing seems to have happened. If you want to verify the signature, the key is available from standard keyservers, eg pgp.mit.edu. I don't see the value of a keyring that is stored on the same ftp server as the file you want to download. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 11 17:36:19 2015 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2015 21:36:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51065 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3A95-0006r2-CX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:36:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57377) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3A93-0006qm-HQ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:36:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3A8v-00026e-BJ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:36:12 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49762) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3A8v-00026Y-8G for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:36:09 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3A8u-0000vq-Sd for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:36:08 -0400 Subject: control message for bug 20298 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.99.98) Message-Id: From: Glenn Morris Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:36:08 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) merge 20788 20298 From unknown Sun Jun 22 08:08:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20788: 24.4; Nicolas Petton's key not included in GNU keyring Resent-From: William G. Gardella Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20788 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: 20788@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20788-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20788.1434059443767 (code B ref 20788); Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:51:02 +0000 Received: (at 20788) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2015 21:50:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51070 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3AN0-0000CI-8t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:50:42 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:47410) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3AMx-0000CA-Jc for 20788@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:50:40 -0400 Received: from berryeater.riseup.net (berryeater-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.120]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 709FA410E1; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: wgreenhouse) with ESMTPSA id A4DD4429F7 From: William G. Gardella References: <87wpzac5no.fsf@example.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 21:50:32 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 11 Jun 2015 17:34:44 -0400") Message-ID: <87ioatdidz.fsf@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.7 at mx1 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Glenn Morris writes: > This is a duplicate of http://debbugs.gnu.org/20298. > > I repeat my comment from http://debbugs.gnu.org/20298#23: Sorry for duplicating the issue; I should have checked for the existing open bug. > Nobody here can do anything about this, it's a GNU sysadmin issue. > It's been reported to them, nothing seems to have happened. > > If you want to verify the signature, the key is available from standard > keyservers, eg pgp.mit.edu. I don't see the value of a keyring that is > stored on the same ftp server as the file you want to download. I disagree that it's of no value; anybody can upload any key to any keyserver, but the GNU keyring can be obtained from an HTTPS server with a certificate signed by Gandi according to their policies, which, while not great, are at least better than the nonexistent verification provided by a keyserver. I will send the report to sysadmin, as apparently no action has been taken since late April, when Nicolas's key was supposedly uploaded. From unknown Sun Jun 22 08:08:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20788: 24.4; Nicolas Petton's key not included in GNU keyring In-Reply-To: <87wpzac5no.fsf@example.com> Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 22:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20788 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: William G. Gardella Cc: 20788@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20788-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20788.14340606322729 (code B ref 20788); Thu, 11 Jun 2015 22:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 20788) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2015 22:10:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51083 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3AgB-0000hw-BQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 18:10:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37095) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3Ag8-0000hj-Fc for 20788@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 18:10:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3Ag2-0007LG-Gy for 20788@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 18:10:23 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50308) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3Ag0-0007KJ-8V; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 18:10:20 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3Afz-0001CY-NX; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 18:10:19 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <87wpzac5no.fsf@example.com> <87ioatdidz.fsf@example.com> X-Spook: Mexican army Power Stranded CIA Marijuana digicash Sarin X-Ran: t%]fs6UD{Wt0{R18T@zB~jO@8l6&WGd_@ti{P2Gee#JmUSy@suo)z/Fj6fTP'.3dlGDFIF X-Hue: green X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 18:10:19 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) William G. Gardella wrote: > I disagree that it's of no value; anybody can upload any key to any > keyserver, but the GNU keyring can be obtained from an HTTPS server with > a certificate signed by Gandi according to their policies, which, > while not great, are at least better than the nonexistent verification > provided by a keyserver. I still don't get it: If someone puts a bogus key on a keyserver, it will presumably fail to verify the ftp.gnu.org tarfile. And if someone can put a bogus Emacs tarball on ftp.gnu.org, they could just as well put a bogus keyring file there too. So it doesn't seem to be of any more value than a sha1sum. > I will send the report to sysadmin, as apparently no action has been > taken since late April, when Nicolas's key was supposedly uploaded. Thanks. Again: http://debbugs.gnu.org/20298#38 [...] please ask them to review the whole system, not just add [one] key. Eg mine doesn't seem to be there either, which implies the system has been busted for years. I assume the file is supposed to be an automatically generated list of everyone who can upload to ftp.gnu.org. From unknown Sun Jun 22 08:08:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20788: 24.4; Nicolas Petton's key not included in GNU keyring Resent-From: Nicolas Petton Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 23:15:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20788 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "William G. Gardella" Cc: Glenn Morris , 20788@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20788-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20788.14340644998433 (code B ref 20788); Thu, 11 Jun 2015 23:15:03 +0000 Received: (at 20788) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2015 23:14:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51103 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3BgY-0002Bw-QD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:14:59 -0400 Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]:45048) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z3BgR-0002Bf-U0 for 20788@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:14:56 -0400 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45998209F7 for <20788@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:14:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:14:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=I1iJlrSuVz9yEHltJ0tgpbQPlOI=; b=rE9Du 9JGQyIdV2Mi4469O1kXAdPmRV9IMjZ81FB/zU8xoO8WHEaVChZkS2Bijb+UIRBE5 TI9fTL4paZjy2P53jLWnH1Py5mAltoYp41z+0aVM8uJsZwnbi71bRPL0qYpBJXkr FM9Wqkj8+YDwFk0TL3cotJ6JdjStXzlURFY3PY= X-Sasl-enc: YIVwKbE03n4dCQVO9fR6tExXV9PASmjpEIPZUBehD2ix 1434064490 Received: from blueberry (unknown [80.216.74.58]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 76DAF680147; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:14:50 -0400 (EDT) References: <87wpzac5no.fsf@example.com> <87ioatdidz.fsf@example.com> From: Nicolas Petton In-reply-to: <87ioatdidz.fsf@example.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 01:14:49 +0200 Message-ID: <87eglhhm6u.fsf@petton.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain William G. Gardella writes: > Glenn Morris writes: > >> This is a duplicate of http://debbugs.gnu.org/20298. >> >> I repeat my comment from http://debbugs.gnu.org/20298#23: > > Sorry for duplicating the issue; I should have checked > for the existing open bug. > >> Nobody here can do anything about this, it's a GNU sysadmin issue. >> It's been reported to them, nothing seems to have happened. >> >> If you want to verify the signature, the key is available from standard >> keyservers, eg pgp.mit.edu. I don't see the value of a keyring that is >> stored on the same ftp server as the file you want to download. > > I disagree that it's of no value; anybody can upload any key to any > keyserver, but the GNU keyring can be obtained from an HTTPS server with > a certificate signed by Gandi according to their policies, which, > while not great, are at least better than the nonexistent verification > provided by a keyserver. > > I will send the report to sysadmin, as apparently no action has been taken > since late April, when Nicolas's key was supposedly uploaded. I reported the issue to them several times. I've been told to just wait for them to fix it. I'm waiting. 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[206.188.64.44]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id k12sm17749339iok.8.2016.08.09.17.20.58 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Aug 2016 17:20:59 -0700 (PDT) From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Nicolas Petton Subject: Re: bug#20298: Missing public key for 24.5 References: <87r3r3jcbk.fsf@petton.fr> <6qwq0vdj4f.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87iocekjma.fsf@petton.fr> Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 20:20:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87iocekjma.fsf@petton.fr> (Nicolas Petton's message of "Wed, 29 Apr 2015 18:02:53 +0200") Message-ID: <87wpjph3ua.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control Cc: Glenn Morris , 20298@debbugs.gnu.org, 20298-reopen@debbugs.gnu.org, Mehmet Atif Ergun X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) tags 20298 fixed close 20298 quit Nicolas Petton writes: > Glenn Morris writes: > >> Nicolas Petton wrote: >> >>> My key has been added to the keyring on the FTP server. >> >> Have you verified that? >> Because it's not in the version of the file I just now downloaded. > > No I haven't. I naively thought that it was true when a GNU sysadmin > told me that it had just been added. > It's there now: $ gpg --verify --keyring ./gnu-keyring.gpg emacs-24.5.tar.xz.sig gpg: assuming signed data in 'emacs-24.5.tar.xz' gpg: Signature made Fri 10 Apr 2015 12:57:02 PM EDT using RSA key ID 7C207910 gpg: Good signature from "Nicolas Petton " [unknown] gpg: aka "Nicolas Petton " [unknown] gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner. Primary key fingerprint: 28D3 BED8 51FD F3AB 57FE F93C 2335 87A4 7C20 7910