From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:21:33 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20740: 25.0.50; *scratch* is created despite initial-buffer-choice & ini Resent-From: Sam Steingold Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 13:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 20740 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 20740@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Reply-To: sds@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.143351004011214 (code B ref -1); Fri, 05 Jun 2015 13:14:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jun 2015 13:14:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41242 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0rRe-0002um-Km for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 09:13:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42976) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0rRd-0002uY-2F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 09:13:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0rRT-0007NQ-Ae for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 09:13:51 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:58102) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0rRT-0007NJ-88 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 09:13:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56474) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0rRR-0000ws-R1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 09:13:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0rRN-0007Ju-2n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 09:13:45 -0400 Received: from mail-vn0-x232.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c0f::232]:38839) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0rRI-0007Hg-Ru; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 09:13:36 -0400 Received: by vnbf190 with SMTP id f190so8934156vnb.5; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 06:13:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:return-receipt-to:reply-to:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; bh=zM2hRW2tz1Sz672B+i3neX2Hmjd+6BObQqWza/DFoR4=; b=sN9sGNjOyVA6MUW6ymwK8EJmbZuhZQ5tBuq9DwEQxsvBKX+b2AwBmbtt+MHYo60Tmx rAuXq9CIA9qnK6ibNP+umkoxRteJ7MnF8LcyIId3UzIQC2Hp3ZzTYnHRbWQs5+sz+Qfu RS3KQcU81aMYGpEL9Kl/JIlu9dfu1Q+uHZxkgMaJv1CnjvmT0LCtuONnzI/FgtXjuboP Lb2Iu5moJX7dH8n6PGIMwye1CC5CLPwqFxSmjLZON8szW0DengshyN7FZYI2swWgNGjE d91TlYoIFZ4llsWfJioScJeWzMZngyg079Dky1f0SPK8jXmozyYgXXfuxkChG1Dz9Qef 6y/Q== X-Received: by 10.52.34.228 with SMTP id c4mr6221074vdj.42.1433510015699; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 06:13:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sds-MacBook-Pro.local ([66.9.135.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p13sm6790022vdj.15.2015.06.05.06.13.34 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Jun 2015 06:13:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Sam Steingold X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 09:13:33 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) As per the help messages, I do --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (custom-set-variables '(initial-buffer-choice 'remember-notes) '(remember-notes-buffer-name "*scratch*")) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- in .emacs.el so that I do not have the "*scratch*" buffer which is not visiting any file. However, I still have _both_ "notes" (visiting .emacs.d/notes) and "*scratch*" buffers when I start emacs. Note that I also use `desktop-save-mode' (and I manually kill "*scratch*" on startup, so .emacs.desktop does _not_ have "*scratch*"). In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.2 (x86_64-apple-darwin14.3.0, NS appkit-1347.57 Version 10.10.3 (Build 14D136)) of 2015-06-05 on sds-MacBook-Pro.local Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1347 Configured using: `configure --with-ns' Configured features: JPEG IMAGEMAGICK ACL LIBXML2 ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS Important settings: value of $LANG: C locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: diff-auto-refine-mode: t rcirc-track-minor-mode: t which-function-mode: t url-handler-mode: t show-paren-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t Recent messages: line-move-1: Beginning of buffer funcall-interactively: Beginning of buffer [3 times] mouse-2, RET: find variable's definition Mark saved where search started [2 times] Mark saved where search started Quit next-line: End of buffer line-move-1: Beginning of buffer [3 times] Scanning for dabbrevs...done Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort bbdb-message mailalias cookie1 mail-extr gnus-msg gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 mm-view mml-smime smime dig mailcap gnus-sum gnus-group gnus-undo dabbrev emacsbug sendmail gnus-start gnus-cloud nnimap nnmail mail-source tls utf7 netrc nnoo parse-time gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range message rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums gmm-utils mailheader gnus-win find-func pp help-mode misearch multi-isearch remember nxml-uchnm rng-xsd xsd-regexp rng-cmpct rng-nxml rng-valid rng-loc rng-uri rng-parse nxml-parse rng-match rng-dt rng-util rng-pttrn nxml-ns nxml-mode nxml-outln nxml-rap nxml-util nxml-glyph nxml-enc xmltok dired-aux smerge-mode markdown-mode noutline outline vc-hg flyspell ispell tex-mode vc-dir ewoc vc vc-dispatcher vc-git diff-mode easy-mmode python json finder-inf package epg-config dired warnings midnight gnus gnus-ems nnheader mail-utils wid-edit bbdb-mua bbdb-com crm mailabbrev bbdb-loaddefs bbdb bbdb-site timezone rcirc server which-func imenu url-handlers url-parse auth-source cl-macs cl-seq eieio byte-opt bytecomp byte-compile cl-extra seq cconv eieio-core gnus-util mm-util help-fns mail-prsvr password-cache url-vars paren help-at-pt desktop frameset cus-start cus-load ido ess-toolbar ess-mouse mouseme thingatpt browse-url ess-menu ess-swv ess-noweb ess-noweb-font-lock-mode ess-bugs-l essd-els ess-sas-d ess-sas-l ess-sas-a shell pcomplete ess-sta-d ess-sta-l cc-vars cc-defs make-regexp ess-sp6-d ess-sp3-d ess-julia ess-r-d ess-r-completion compile ess-tracebug format-spec ess-roxy advice hideshow ess-help ess-developer ess-s-l ess ess-inf comint ansi-color ring ess-mode ess-noweb-mode ess-utils ess-custom executable easymenu ess-compat ess-site cl gv cl-loaddefs pcase cl-lib time-date disp-table mule-util tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel ns-win term/common-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote cocoa ns multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 497253 33214) (symbols 48 65609 0) (miscs 40 18995 71) (strings 32 184058 9878) (string-bytes 1 4310708) (vectors 16 53457) (vector-slots 8 916037 5740) (floats 8 800 509) (intervals 56 4305 79) (buffers 976 73)) -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on darwin Ns 10.3.1347 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://thereligionofpeace.com http://www.dhimmitude.org http://openvotingconsortium.org http://islamexposedonline.com Cannot handle the fatal error due to a fatal error in the fatal error handler. From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:21:33 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20740: 25.0.50; *scratch* is created despite initial-buffer-choice & ini Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 01:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20740 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Sam Steingold Cc: 20740@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20740-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20740.160911749221076 (code B ref 20740); Mon, 28 Dec 2020 01:05:02 +0000 Received: (at 20740) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Dec 2020 01:04:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33902 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ktgxw-0005Tr-Ib for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 20:04:52 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:37520) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ktgxu-0005TZ-66 for 20740@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 20:04:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=eSIhk1QXmOeUasw6dcstR0IiOE+L6a8rAOInGATK87o=; b=ZgEoOKP3TIK9NI0Jg0MarQ/p4F YBCXnoHq3UAteryp4dQj6g+LhvfNaD8Nll2LjflwpNeTedZ0TcTKjZAlQIgvdPNFs1mRJmtdcVXmM KdXdbCFa2vCVyZqCydLjD2HBBHNMYiWu+zv0nCpvam9XmOX09kG3ot960zzub4NdXLJU=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ktgxe-0006gV-Fl; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 02:04:43 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: X-Now-Playing: Joe Jackson's _Beat Crazy_: "Mad At You" Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 02:04:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Sam Steingold's message of "Fri, 05 Jun 2015 09:13:33 -0400") Message-ID: <87wnx24u72.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Sam Steingold writes: > As per the help messages, I do > > (custom-set-variables > '(initial-buffer-choice 'remember-notes) > '(remember-notes-buffer-name "*scratch*")) > > in .emacs.el so that I do not have the "*scratch* [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Sam Steingold writes: > As per the help messages, I do > > (custom-set-variables > '(initial-buffer-choice 'remember-notes) > '(remember-notes-buffer-name "*scratch*")) > > in .emacs.el so that I do not have the "*scratch*" buffer which is not > visiting any file. > > However, I still have _both_ "notes" (visiting .emacs.d/notes) and > "*scratch*" buffers when I start emacs. This is now fixed in Emacs 28. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 27 20:04:58 2020 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Dec 2020 01:04:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33905 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ktgy1-0005U9-Qk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 20:04:58 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:37534) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ktgxz-0005Tk-Lg for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 20:04:56 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=S45xDlXy7a5IGCu8J1KbTc8T1Jiu5h9dPOTu7Sx+ICs=; b=frumazR3IqcUN2znIuT1XR3rB6 8LSZ3ypjQUusjmKzXBLmHGu4m8SposOUicuYrOswaSDURuUD4fWxZE7kJlwRpv0xir//exxrQI/cM FsuTvl76X40bkgDjEvvHrdznAXuxO9v3KymwdkKEtJL3n8khl0b3qdrL4GPpluoRHEWA=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ktgxs-0006gt-6o for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2020 02:04:50 +0100 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 02:04:47 +0100 Message-Id: <87v9cm4u6o.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #20740 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: tags 20740 fixed close 20740 28.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 20740 fixed close 20740 28.1 quit