From unknown Tue Sep 09 22:27:39 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#20610 <20610@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#20610 <20610@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 25.0.50; Gnus fancy mail splitting not working anymore Reply-To: bug#20610 <20610@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 05:27:39 +0000 retitle 20610 25.0.50; Gnus fancy mail splitting not working anymore reassign 20610 emacs,gnus submitter 20610 Sebastien Vauban severity 20610 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 19 08:40:44 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2015 12:40:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49694 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yugp9-0007fU-0Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 08:40:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33674) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yugp5-0007fF-Sp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 08:40:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yugow-0003L1-3h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 08:40:34 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:34817) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yugov-0003Kw-W6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 08:40:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47150) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yugor-0004dF-UJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 08:40:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yugom-0003I0-OY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 08:40:25 -0400 Received: from dd5e0353a.access.telenet.be ([213.224.53.58]:51683 helo=mail.missioncriticalit.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yugom-0003Ht-IA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 08:40:20 -0400 Received: from mundaneum (unknown [10.10.4.62]) by mail.missioncriticalit.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A97A5001A3 for ; Tue, 19 May 2015 14:40:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Sebastien Vauban To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.0.50; Gnus fancy mail splitting not working anymore Organization: Sebastien Vauban X-Url: Under construction... X-Archive: encrypt Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 14:40:11 +0200 Message-ID: <868uckoi50.fsf@example.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) While "fancy mail splitting" (section 6.4.6 of the manual) with the `gnus-private' attribute of BBDB [1] works perfectly -- for years! -- under (Windows) Emacs 24.5 (and many previous versions), it stops working when using Emacs 25.0.50 [2]... while (let's be explicit!) the `.gnus' file stays strictly the same. Here a minimal working configuration file for Emacs 24.5: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (require 'gnus) (require 'auth-source) (setq auth-source-debug t) ;; Configure incoming mail. (setq gnus-select-method '(nnimap "mail" (nnimap-address "mail") (nnimap-server-port 993) (nnimap-stream ssl))) ;; Name(s) of IMAP mailboxes to split mail from. (setq nnimap-inbox "INBOX") ;; The first match in `nnmail-split-rule' found will be used. (setq nnmail-crosspost nil) ;; BBDB (Big Brother DataBase) is loaded from my `.emacs' file. (require 'bbdb-gnus) ;; Split function to use (sorting mails into groups using BBDB). (setq nnimap-split-methods 'nnimap-split-fancy) ;; Specify how to split mail. (setq nnimap-split-fancy '(| ; split to the *first* match ;; Invoke BBDB. (: (lambda () (car (bbdb/gnus-split-method)))) ;; Catch spam. ("X-Spam-Status" "[Yy]es" "INBOX.Spam") ;; Undecided. "INBOX")) ;; For records which don't have `gnus-private' set, the rules in ;; `split-fancy' are invoked. (setq bbdb/gnus-split-default-group nil) ;;; .gnus ends here --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I've tried numerous changes (for hours), such as: - renaming `nnimap-split-methods' to `nnmail-split-methods' and `nnimap-split-fancy' to `nnmail-split-fancy', or - moving `nnimap-inbox' and `nnimap-split-methods' (without the `setq' and without the quotes) inside the definition of `gnus-select-method', with no success. In those 2 latter cases, it even stops working within Emacs 24.5, so this seems not to be the right path... Best regards. [1] ~/.emacs.d/elpa/bbdb-20140830.2031/bbdb-gnus.elc [2] GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2015-05-08 on LEG570 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 19 13:35:51 2015 Received: (at 20610) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2015 17:35:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50354 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YulQk-0006KC-9W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 13:35:50 -0400 Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]:50240) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YulQi-0006K3-R2 for 20610@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 13:35:49 -0400 Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1314985FD9; Tue, 19 May 2015 13:35:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733871E5B96; Tue, 19 May 2015 13:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 53BAFB4334; Tue, 19 May 2015 13:35:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Sebastien Vauban Subject: Re: bug#20610: 25.0.50; Gnus fancy mail splitting not working anymore Message-ID: References: <868uckoi50.fsf@example.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 13:35:24 -0400 In-Reply-To: <868uckoi50.fsf@example.com> (Sebastien Vauban's message of "Tue, 19 May 2015 14:40:11 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.71, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82, MC_DISCRET 0.11, MC_TSTLAST 0.00) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20610 Cc: 20610@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > While "fancy mail splitting" (section 6.4.6 of the manual) with the > `gnus-private' attribute of BBDB [1] works perfectly -- for years! -- > under (Windows) Emacs 24.5 (and many previous versions), it stops > working when using Emacs 25.0.50 [2]... while (let's be explicit!) the > `.gnus' file stays strictly the same. Few! I was afraid that at this point you'd give us the actual error message! Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 19 13:58:05 2015 Received: (at 20610) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2015 17:58:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50385 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YulmG-0008M9-DE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 13:58:05 -0400 Received: from dd5e0353a.access.telenet.be ([213.224.53.58]:45138 helo=mail.missioncriticalit.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YulmC-0008LH-Vm for 20610@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 13:58:01 -0400 Received: from MUNDANEUM (unknown [10.10.4.62]) by mail.missioncriticalit.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2AC7F504756; Tue, 19 May 2015 19:57:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Sebastien Vauban To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#20610: 25.0.50; Gnus fancy mail splitting not working anymore Organization: Sebastien Vauban References: <868uckoi50.fsf@example.com> X-Url: Under construction... X-Archive: encrypt Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 19:57:47 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 19 May 2015 13:35:24 -0400") Message-ID: <86oalglaas.fsf@example.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20610 Cc: 20610@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) Stefan Monnier writes: >> While "fancy mail splitting" (section 6.4.6 of the manual) with the >> `gnus-private' attribute of BBDB [1] works perfectly -- for years! -- >> under (Windows) Emacs 24.5 (and many previous versions), it stops >> working when using Emacs 25.0.50 [2]... while (let's be explicit!) the >> `.gnus' file stays strictly the same. > > Few! I was afraid that at this point you'd give us the actual error > message! I wish I could, but there isn't: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ... nnimap read 10k from mail Reading active file via nndraft...done Checking new news...done ... --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Not even a message about splitting. The only visible difference is that, under 24.5, it does apply the splitting rules, and it does not under 25.0. Now, if there is a mean to get more verbose output, or something in the same vein, I'm (of course) willing to try... Best regards, Seb From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 19 14:40:05 2015 Received: (at 20610) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2015 18:40:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50406 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YumQt-0000vn-54 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 14:40:04 -0400 Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]:51378) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YumQp-0000vQ-VC for 20610@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 14:40:00 -0400 Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92A685FDD; Tue, 19 May 2015 14:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA8E1E5B8D; Tue, 19 May 2015 14:39:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 00208B4334; Tue, 19 May 2015 14:39:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Sebastien Vauban Subject: Re: bug#20610: 25.0.50; Gnus fancy mail splitting not working anymore Message-ID: References: <868uckoi50.fsf@example.com> <86oalglaas.fsf@example.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 14:39:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <86oalglaas.fsf@example.com> (Sebastien Vauban's message of "Tue, 19 May 2015 19:57:47 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82, MC_TSTLAST 0.00) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20610 Cc: 20610@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) >> Few! I was afraid that at this point you'd give us the actual error >> message! > I wish I could, but there isn't: > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > ... > nnimap read 10k from mail > Reading active file via nndraft...done > Checking new news...done > ... > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > Not even a message about splitting. Well, that's already a lot more precise than just saying "stops working", thanks. > The only visible difference is that, under 24.5, it does apply the > splitting rules, and it does not under 25.0. I think we need some help from the Gnus guys here, Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 19 20:22:42 2015 Received: (at 20610) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 May 2015 00:22:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50436 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YurmT-0000oS-HZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 20:22:42 -0400 Received: from memphis-mail.hostforweb.net ([216.246.47.48]:60360 helo=memphis.hostforweb.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YurmR-0000oF-Fe for 20610@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 20:22:39 -0400 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58293) by memphis.hostforweb.net with smtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1YurmJ-001we2-Lh; Tue, 19 May 2015 19:22:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 09:22:31 +0900 Message-ID: From: Katsumi Yamaoka To: Sebastien Vauban Subject: Re: bug#20610: 25.0.50; Gnus fancy mail splitting not working anymore References: <868uckoi50.fsf@example.com> <86oalglaas.fsf@example.com> Organization: Emacsen advocacy group X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`; Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu; B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPz8bKEI=?= Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.50 (i686-pc-cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:aFE/MVJMRpfoNOLwqRT+AcJEPuo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - memphis.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: memphis.hostforweb.net: acl_c_authenticated_local_user: yamaokac X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20610 Cc: 20610@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Tue, 19 May 2015 14:39:29 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > I think we need some help from the Gnus guys here, After starting up Gnus, try this form in the *scratch* buffer: (featurep 'bbdb-gnus) ;; Type `C-j' at the end of the form. If this returns nil, it means your ~/.gnus file, containing the splitting rules, is not loaded. If so, a possible cause is that you have ~/.gnus.el or ~/.gnus.elc, that's accidentally made. Gnus prefers those files than ~/.gnus [1]. Even if ~/.gnus.el or ~/.gnus.elc is empty, Gnus would work just like normal because of ~/.newsrc.eld. [1] (info "(gnus)Startup Files") From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 21 07:51:34 2015 Received: (at 20610) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 May 2015 11:51:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51807 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YvP0f-0003mw-Ka for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 May 2015 07:51:34 -0400 Received: from dd5e0353a.access.telenet.be ([213.224.53.58]:32464 helo=mail.missioncriticalit.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YvP0c-0003mf-FN for 20610@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 May 2015 07:51:32 -0400 Received: from MUNDANEUM (unknown [10.10.10.51]) by mail.missioncriticalit.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 429225001D6; Thu, 21 May 2015 13:51:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Sebastien Vauban To: Katsumi Yamaoka , Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#20610: 25.0.50; Gnus fancy mail splitting not working anymore Organization: Sebastien Vauban References: <868uckoi50.fsf@example.com> <86oalglaas.fsf@example.com> X-Url: Under construction... X-Archive: encrypt Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 13:51:12 +0200 Message-ID: <86d21utahb.fsf@example.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20610 Cc: 20610@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) Katsumi Yamaoka writes: > On Tue, 19 May 2015 14:39:29 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I think we need some help from the Gnus guys here, > > After starting up Gnus, try this form in the *scratch* buffer: > > (featurep 'bbdb-gnus) ;; Type `C-j' at the end of the form. > > If this returns nil, it means your ~/.gnus file, containing > the splitting rules, is not loaded. It _is_ loaded; it returns `t'. > If so, a possible cause is that you have ~/.gnus.el or ~/.gnus.elc, > that's accidentally made. Gnus prefers those files than ~/.gnus. > Even if ~/.gnus.el or ~/.gnus.elc is empty, Gnus would work just like > normal because of ~/.newsrc.eld. I know that, that's why I never ever compile my config files -- because I've been hit quite a couple of times but that problem in the past, and because the startup time of my Emacs/Gnus is already very decent now (in the order of 1 to 3 seconds). As I said, what's un-understandable right now, is that my config _works_ with Emacs 24.5 and (the exact same) does not with Emacs 25. The problems you point to (possibly missing package or use of a compiled, not up-to-date, config file) couldn't explain that fact. Both versions of Emacs read my `~/.gnus' file and load the `bbdb-gnus' library found at `~/.emacs.d/elpa/bbdb-20140830.2031/bbdb-gnus.elc'. To add more data points, here is a comparison of what's displayed in the `*Messages*' buffer for both sessions: - With Emacs 24.5: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- Opening connection to mail via tls... auth-source-search: found 1 results (max 1) matching (:max 1 :host ("mail") :port (993 "imaps" "imap" "993" "143") :user nil :require (:user :secret) :create t) Opening connection to mail...done Reading d:/Users/sva/.gnus.d/.newsrc.eld... Checking new news... Decrypting d:/Users/sva/.authinfo.gpg...done auth-source-search: found 1 results (max 1) matching (:max 1 :host ("news.gmane.org" "gmane") :port ("119" "nntp" "nntp" "563" "nntps" "snews")) auth-source-search: found 1 results (max 1) matching (:max 1 :host ("news.eternal-september.org" "eternal-september") :port ("119" "nntp" "nntp" "563" "nntps" "snews")) > nnimap mail splitting mail... nnimap read 0k from mail > Parsing BBDB... > Duplicate BBDB record encountered: Support > Parsing BBDB...done > nnimap mail splitting mail...done > nnimap read 2k from mail Reading active file via nndraft...done Checking new news...done --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- - With Emacs 25.0: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- Opening connection to mail via tls... auth-source-search: found 1 results (max 1) matching (:max 1 :host ("mail") :port (993 "imaps" "imap" "993" "143") :user nil :require (:user :secret) :create t) Opening connection to mail...done Reading d:/Users/sva/.gnus.d/.newsrc.eld... Checking new news... Decrypting d:/Users/sva/.authinfo.gpg...done auth-source-search: found 1 results (max 1) matching (:max 1 :host ("news.gmane.org" "gmane") :port ("119" "nntp" "nntp" "563" "nntps" "snews")) > Unable to open server nntp+gmane due to: Authorization Rejected auth-source-search: found 1 results (max 1) matching (:max 1 :host ("news.eternal-september.org" "eternal-september") :port ("119" "nntp" "nntp" "563" "nntps" "snews")) nnimap read 0k from mail Reading active file via nndraft...done Checking new news...done --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Note that I've prefixed the lines which are different with a ">". Best regards, Seb PS- I also have a problem with Gmane in Emacs 25.0, but I didn't look into that yet. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 22 17:36:34 2015 Received: (at 20610) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 May 2015 21:36:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53256 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YvucL-0006nN-Sc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 May 2015 17:36:34 -0400 Received: from dd5e0353a.access.telenet.be ([213.224.53.58]:39823 helo=mail.missioncriticalit.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YvucJ-0006mr-P5 for 20610@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 May 2015 17:36:32 -0400 Received: from MUNDANEUM (unknown [10.10.4.62]) by mail.missioncriticalit.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D54BC500C6C; Fri, 22 May 2015 23:36:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Sebastien Vauban To: Katsumi Yamaoka , Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#20610: 25.0.50; Gnus fancy mail splitting not working anymore Organization: Sebastien Vauban References: <868uckoi50.fsf@example.com> <86oalglaas.fsf@example.com> X-Url: Under construction... X-Archive: encrypt Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 23:36:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Sebastien Vauban's message of "Thu, 21 May 2015 13:51:12 +0200") Message-ID: <86vbfkpa5k.fsf@example.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20610 Cc: 20610@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) Sebastien Vauban writes: > Katsumi Yamaoka writes: >> On Tue, 19 May 2015 14:39:29 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> I think we need some help from the Gnus guys here, >> >> (featurep 'bbdb-gnus) ;; Type `C-j' at the end of the form. > > It _is_ loaded; it returns `t'. [...] Both versions of Emacs read my > `~/.gnus' file and load the `bbdb-gnus' library found at > `~/.emacs.d/elpa/bbdb-20140830.2031/bbdb-gnus.elc'. I'm progressing -- a bit. I just found out that, adding good ol' messages, the conditional code is well executed (as already said)... --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (message ">>> >>> %S <<< <<<" nnimap-split-methods) (when (require 'bbdb-gnus) (message ">>> >>> Inside! <<< <<<") ;; Split function to use (sorting mails into groups using BBDB). (setq nnimap-split-methods 'nnimap-split-fancy) ;; Specify how to split mail. (setq nnimap-split-fancy ; vs `nnmail-split-fancy'? '(| ; Split to the *first* match. ;; Invoke BBDB. (: (lambda () (car (bbdb/gnus-split-method)))) ;; Catch spam. ("X-Spam-Status" "[Yy]es" "INBOX.Spam") ;; Undecided. "INBOX")) ;; For records which don't have `gnus-private' set, the rules in ;; `split-fancy' are invoked. (setq bbdb/gnus-split-default-group nil)) (message ">>> >>> %S <<< <<<" nnimap-split-methods) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- gives: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >>> >>> nil <<< <<< >>> >>> Inside! <<< <<< >>> >>> nnimap-split-fancy <<< <<< --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- ... but, in Emacs 25.0, _after having started Gnus_, when I type `C-h v nnimap-split-methods', I get `nil'!!! And similarly for `nnimap-split-fancy'... So, these variables gets reinitialized after my code is run... How? Why? In Emacs 25, if I reevaluate the above 2 vars (`nnimap-split-methods' and `nnimap-split-fancy'), the mail splitting is still not working, though `B t' indicates it would go to the right mailbox! Why?? Another difference with Emacs 24.5: for these 3 messages to be evaluated correctly, I had to explicitly add a `require 'nnimap' before the first call to `message'. Otherwise, I had an "Error in ~/.gnus: nnimap-split-methods"... Why is the variable not defined (I guess it means that) in Emacs 24.5 and well in Emacs 25 -- without the explicit call to nnimap? Do the above ring a bell to someone? I've seen that the nnimap vars are defined thru `defvoo' calls. I wasn't aware of such a macro, and don't know yet its real effects... Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 24 10:49:21 2015 Received: (at 20610) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jul 2015 14:49:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58090 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZIeHo-0005Sq-Sj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 10:49:21 -0400 Received: from dd5e0353a.access.telenet.be ([213.224.53.58]:7622 helo=mail.missioncriticalit.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZIeHm-0005Si-By for 20610@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 10:49:18 -0400 Received: from mundaneum (unknown [10.10.10.51]) by mail.missioncriticalit.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9A0B500A37 for <20610@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 16:49:16 +0200 (CEST) From: Sebastien Vauban To: 20610@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#20610: 25.0.50; Gnus fancy mail splitting not working anymore Organization: Sebastien Vauban References: <868uckoi50.fsf@example.com> <86oalglaas.fsf@example.com> <86pp3hvi31.fsf@missioncriticalit.com> X-Url: Under construction... X-Archive: encrypt Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 16:49:13 +0200 Message-ID: <867fpp626u.fsf@example.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20610 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) solved close Sebastien Vauban writes: > Sebastien Vauban writes: >> Sebastien Vauban writes: >>> Katsumi Yamaoka writes: >>>> On Tue, 19 May 2015 14:39:29 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>>> I think we need some help from the Gnus guys here, >>>> >>>> (featurep 'bbdb-gnus) ;; Type `C-j' at the end of the form. >>> >>> It _is_ loaded; it returns `t'. [...] Both versions of Emacs read my >>> `~/.gnus' file and load the `bbdb-gnus' library found at >>> `~/.emacs.d/elpa/bbdb-20140830.2031/bbdb-gnus.elc'. >> >> I'm progressing -- a bit. I just found out that [...] in Emacs 25.0, >> _after having started Gnus_, when I type `C-h v nnimap-split-methods', >> I get `nil'!!! And similarly for `nnimap-split-fancy'... So, these >> variables gets reinitialized after my code is run... How? Why? > > As I still need to read my mails within Emacs 25.0, and as the fancy > mail splitting still does not work for me there (while it does, with > the same config file, within Emacs 24.5), I have done more tests [...] > > ;; Configure incoming mail. > (setq gnus-select-method > '(nnimap "mail" > (nnimap-address "mail") > (nnimap-server-port 993) > (nnimap-stream ssl))) Putting *both* `nnimap-inbox' and `nnimap-split-methods' in the definition of the IMAP select method is *necessary* for fancy splitting to work under Emacs 25. Working example: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ;; Configure incoming mail. 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In the server buffer, this is how the mail server is configured (nnimap "thuis" (nnimap-address "server") (nnimap-inbox "INBOX") (nnimap-split-methods nnimap-split-fancy) (nnimap-unsplittable-articles '(%Deleted %Seen)) (nnir-search-engine imap) (nnimap-stream tls)) Which works in Emacs24. here is a shortened version of my nnimap-split-fancy (setq nnimap-split-fancy '(| ("from" "stuff.*" "INBOX.stuff") ("from" "no-reply@stuff" "INBOX.tmp") ;; Invoke the BBDB (: (lambda () (car (bbdb/gnus-split-method)))) ;; Default mailbox "INBOX")) The difference with Sebastian's fix from 24 Jul 2015 is that he uses nnimap-split-methods nnmail-split-fancy, whereas in my case it is nnimap-split-fancy. In Emacs25, nnimap-split-methods is nil In Emacs24, its value is nnimap-split-fancy In Emacs25, when I reload Gnus, (r), nnimap-split-fancy gets the intended value, and splitting works as before. So, somehow, m-x gnus reads my .gnus file, and then forgets (some parts of) it. Not sure what to do.. Not sure how to debug this either. Would appreciate some pointers. 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