From unknown Tue Aug 19 15:03:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20594: master-branch broke my init Resent-From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 14:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 20594 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 20594@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14318742855400 (code B ref -1); Sun, 17 May 2015 14:52:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2015 14:51:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48279 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YtzuW-0001Oz-9J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 10:51:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39354) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YtzuT-0001Of-89 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 10:51:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YtzuM-0000L6-JA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 10:51:16 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:51740) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YtzuM-0000Ks-GL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 10:51:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52773) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YtzuL-0004ZT-4o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 10:51:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YtzuG-0000Hm-6K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 10:51:13 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]:50716) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YtzuF-0000H9-Sq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 10:51:08 -0400 Received: from [192.168.178.31] ([95.119.233.191]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue005) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MDCvo-1YxHAC3zky-00GVNz for ; Sun, 17 May 2015 16:51:05 +0200 Message-ID: <5558AACC.9070001@easy-emacs.de> Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 16:50:52 +0200 From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:hXiDto/1UjLDnIeUUKcruRAWedv1tr+OdrVmiH6JkgzL9Frrhgp bseOUomgqMJa+qQTZAb5hjOPBICc4POcL4r++v7QGTEkdO30slXpKZB5sDhuXK62gmCr/cp w1I3LHelCrSQUOA4nRP+3+BrkJXdSiunq0ww9ZMQCmgw366Yp4cnfBA1nhxkhKrzoE0XNQ/ yIz/Yr7LdDzKne3vG88cw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Hi, I'm using several Emacs, while .emacs is dispatching setups according to version. After running an emacs-master-20150509 any Emacs started with error - while loading the dispatched setup manually worked. Finally detected in .emacs the reason: ;; Added by Package.el. This must come before configurations of ;; installed packages. Don't delete this line. If you don't want it, ;; just comment it out by adding a semicolon to the start of the line. ;; You may delete these explanatory comments. (package-initialize) This is a bad thing. Please do not make Emacs write into the init-file behind the back of users. Thanks, Andreas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 17 14:03:56 2015 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2015 18:03:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48331 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yu2up-000689-9Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 14:03:55 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:37656 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yu2un-000680-AN for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 14:03:53 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yu2um-0000Su-Sv for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 14:03:53 -0400 Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 14:03:52 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 19759 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) block 19759 by 20594 From unknown Tue Aug 19 15:03:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20594: master-branch broke my init Resent-From: Artur Malabarba Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 22:31:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20594 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Cc: 20594@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Received: via spool by 20594-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20594.143190181624562 (code B ref 20594); Sun, 17 May 2015 22:31:05 +0000 Received: (at 20594) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2015 22:30:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48384 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yu74Y-0006O2-2l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 18:30:15 -0400 Received: from mail-la0-f50.google.com ([209.85.215.50]:34735) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yu74R-0006My-MY for 20594@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2015 18:30:09 -0400 Received: by laat2 with SMTP id t2so193583185laa.1 for <20594@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 17 May 2015 15:30:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=WwY6B2X+LIErDLTuAKtEp78tXrl06FiQW2VUqRZncig=; b=0JJMgygHVIIysKYvc8IC6Qm/hmsBF0U3Jn+DVsv64Uh6i16enHvCaKKvMqaMln35kS ay5shjTqjDRB6TxrIZJceMsXNY+8HJFKzB717IxodPTKtNvgmI/Dtbp/2BIsX9ZBqYj4 cPhs2TAxwuUHu1ckeMhmo4D7J1SWN1dby8GFHpwQpZn9Uw8FFzLn4DsJMKUZbe2/IjOw JB8I2oOznz1OSUitZGVhKktblIU3dKJBP85y7+c0ZlqVp2EH4PDtzF2wYuPBPcYrprcN oU+lmbkiITyZCUIMKBRPCJJhrzab7VTqKk6rMEH9b3Db77HvUWdbUCjZi0nK7jBJfGW1 sXrQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.2.227 with SMTP id 3mr15169583lax.73.1431901801385; Sun, 17 May 2015 15:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.150.1 with HTTP; Sun, 17 May 2015 15:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.150.1 with HTTP; Sun, 17 May 2015 15:30:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5558AACC.9070001@easy-emacs.de> References: <5558AACC.9070001@easy-emacs.de> Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 23:30:01 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Th8DGPfUYqYTuWyOc9fB55PncFE Message-ID: From: Artur Malabarba Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013c6bc03994ef05164e9e74 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --089e013c6bc03994ef05164e9e74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 There's a thread on emacs-devel explaining the need for this. Other options have been discussed there, a couple are under consideration (though it's been quiet lately). If you have suggestions, you're free to voice them here or there. --089e013c6bc03994ef05164e9e74 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

There's a thread on emacs-devel explaining the need for this. Other options have been discussed there, a couple are under consideration (though it's been quiet lately).

If you have suggestions, you're free to voice them here or there.

--089e013c6bc03994ef05164e9e74-- From unknown Tue Aug 19 15:03:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20594: master-branch broke my init Resent-From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 05:29:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20594 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Cc: 20594@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20594-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20594.14319269168171 (code B ref 20594); Mon, 18 May 2015 05:29:03 +0000 Received: (at 20594) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2015 05:28:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48488 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YuDbP-00027j-PA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 01:28:36 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]:56357) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YuDbN-00027V-8I for 20594@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 01:28:33 -0400 Received: from [192.168.178.31] ([95.119.236.209]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lghpm-1ZZYgW2NYk-00oECF; Mon, 18 May 2015 07:28:26 +0200 Message-ID: <55597875.4020406@easy-emacs.de> Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 07:28:21 +0200 From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5558AACC.9070001@easy-emacs.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:AeGZ9gpycv1aXCVtcXrGxx1y1dJOUeIR/fDEIiSzs5lDRdvjZKF LTKQO4SSkNsrOlELBLyTCXw9/tb+eBKc7JjrAEXMG8VipTWbe/oCknkkCdBcezSZBwVCMTK Ss2K2QJ/N4m5a8jdRbsDecbJV0vU+gqFe05NiQpVHc4Jx1ls5xQbA7eMq6eRXLRSlJ+IeEJ QnVqPJWN8bWz5sxr0xPdg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Am 18.05.2015 um 00:30 schrieb Artur Malabarba: > > There's a thread on emacs-devel explaining the need for this. Other > options have been discussed there, a couple are under consideration > (though it's been quiet lately). > > If you have suggestions, you're free to voice them here or there. > At least the user should be questioned yes-or-no-p once like "Write into your init...?" Writing without notice IMO is a no-go. From unknown Tue Aug 19 15:03:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20594: master-branch broke my init Resent-From: Artur Malabarba Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 10:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20594 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Cc: 20594@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Received: via spool by 20594-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20594.14319437342424 (code B ref 20594); Mon, 18 May 2015 10:09:02 +0000 Received: (at 20594) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2015 10:08:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48729 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YuHyf-0000d1-Rx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 06:08:54 -0400 Received: from mail-la0-f51.google.com ([209.85.215.51]:33222) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YuHyd-0000co-Cy for 20594@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 06:08:52 -0400 Received: by lagr1 with SMTP id r1so130247727lag.0 for <20594@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 18 May 2015 03:08:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=15mEe51yCNXdSjSwUn5xQjepjvru+PprLp6ONu8QBUY=; b=GGEgwQI0zeM4QnwolF3KznFlJvC9WQOf926A/683RFL7717sBWn83LJGc5PsziO7E/ w4MlLZkm1SgAQralqOkMFcZlOvSbUESBp7+Nq6qq9pX4cYtc38KjOWgyRcdLE7dTGLX4 yqkDMcIv+YStBFK9uTOMO61TvZB4vVSov3WBP7hrEZyVLlA2EO8n+CyPwqyeA807EAoU MMSB1LJrkjp1/1GdnWhDroGa8GOuVTLVR5ADR8yhHIhX5jfzJZyBrwTBUe4JjUWLXn6z dkQJJ2189qWJwsTnovn8g+p6mD9Qqpbl5ugfEiR3puffDtgUaFMfYATcCjlXOy1IkRsY 73eQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.7.239 with SMTP id m15mr16140157laa.95.1431943725445; Mon, 18 May 2015 03:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.150.1 with HTTP; Mon, 18 May 2015 03:08:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55597875.4020406@easy-emacs.de> References: <5558AACC.9070001@easy-emacs.de> <55597875.4020406@easy-emacs.de> Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 11:08:45 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Cv85GhZ1g-PK-sqkVxlU3BrReuA Message-ID: From: Artur Malabarba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Yes, I agree. There should either be a prompt or a notice about this. In addition to that. A few days ago I added some logic to package.el so that it won't add anything to your init file when it's not necessary. That was after 20150509. It may or may not catch your use-case. Would you be willing to test if it works for you? If you are, just (1) remove those lines, (2) rebuild today's master, and (3) start emacs again. From unknown Tue Aug 19 15:03:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20594: master-branch broke my init Resent-From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 19:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20594 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Cc: 20594@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20594-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20594.143197866829613 (code B ref 20594); Mon, 18 May 2015 19:52:02 +0000 Received: (at 20594) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2015 19:51:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49433 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YuR47-0007hY-Er for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 15:51:07 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]:56287) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YuR45-0007h2-C4 for 20594@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 15:51:06 -0400 Received: from [192.168.178.31] ([95.119.236.209]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue005) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MIjEq-1YsFCs35T6-002Fnd; Mon, 18 May 2015 21:50:58 +0200 Message-ID: <555A429E.8010707@easy-emacs.de> Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 21:50:54 +0200 From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5558AACC.9070001@easy-emacs.de> <55597875.4020406@easy-emacs.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:1IsR9XJO21G06frdjxlL5uyheMwEX05cB66Iqpq9HguYi3QmVTi yFfsoYP63Q916pgUZRO2mv7wEwXEaxmdi0SvBF8NYbIbBDu0O6ve4XInr/bTDK7nYHqFaGE +huAnhOAQ4KHWLc2VfGpC6rtSltl/9Afa4KxOWu31Dj1mMFBsqNfPN0ZmCsPBYSqHFz7Bdk 1YY7r8asT+UfzBH/GBfOA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Am 18.05.2015 um 12:08 schrieb Artur Malabarba: > Yes, I agree. There should either be a prompt or a notice about this. > > In addition to that. A few days ago I added some logic to package.el > so that it won't add anything to your init file when it's not > necessary. That was after 20150509. It may or may not catch your > use-case. > Would you be willing to test if it works for you? > > If you are, just (1) remove those lines, (2) rebuild today's master, > and (3) start emacs again. Bug seems gone with build of today, thanks! close #20594 From unknown Tue Aug 19 15:03:07 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.503 (Entity 5.503) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Subject: bug#20594: closed (Re: bug#20594: master-branch broke my init) Message-ID: References: <5558AACC.9070001@easy-emacs.de> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 20594 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 20594@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 21:06:06 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1431983166-3823-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1431983166-3823-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #20594: master-branch broke my init which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 20594@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 20594: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D20594 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1431983166-3823-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 20594-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2015 21:05:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49443 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YuSDw-0000yS-Mo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 17:05:21 -0400 Received: from mail-la0-f43.google.com ([209.85.215.43]:34747) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YuSDv-0000yF-2B for 20594-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 17:05:19 -0400 Received: by laat2 with SMTP id t2so237799135laa.1 for <20594-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 18 May 2015 14:05:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UR9IPNeg+j2Qbq6KIhnnPx2Fv6Gj2nt0AbKt4PfHoUk=; b=HsXXInV0nXj3j4NSk4mnJN/FnsOVlj+4puqFeM/Rw3cqJG/f+E7R80YqLZq3d/Xvfu Zpv3XfFBuc99Ufy5MwSuqbokfcsvaTccL4P/d9CfYE++1o0sJV8t2sLEMG0GWyUyWfiQ cy2Wzof5jiWECUakfaQCbi3GoTSxXbcbwturjDSFC9j2s7C8oXKSNl+43AbPe6ii/4DO ibi0x6jOl8viYWEgG5xt9/X7gqjJ80kU6VGjmJ8FJZqdPyBocKYJtbM9okfLdaMFKZ7H sHu6F60NHQVRtia3vEvQQKeqvotdYxG/Ur/oRNjbRkvkKi/dR6K6Sei8xxcOVTRzyvfQ 8VtA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.182.4 with SMTP id ea4mr19252938lbc.35.1431983113217; Mon, 18 May 2015 14:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.150.1 with HTTP; Mon, 18 May 2015 14:05:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <555A429E.8010707@easy-emacs.de> References: <5558AACC.9070001@easy-emacs.de> <55597875.4020406@easy-emacs.de> <555A429E.8010707@easy-emacs.de> Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 22:05:13 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4v3soKFk5ajuX2AR0vHBAH6Jm3w Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#20594: master-branch broke my init From: Artur Malabarba To: 20594-done@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20594-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Great! 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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Hi, I'm using several Emacs, while .emacs is dispatching setups according to version. After running an emacs-master-20150509 any Emacs started with error - while loading the dispatched setup manually worked. Finally detected in .emacs the reason: ;; Added by Package.el. This must come before configurations of ;; installed packages. Don't delete this line. If you don't want it, ;; just comment it out by adding a semicolon to the start of the line. ;; You may delete these explanatory comments. (package-initialize) This is a bad thing. Please do not make Emacs write into the init-file behind the back of users. Thanks, Andreas ------------=_1431983166-3823-1-- From unknown Tue Aug 19 15:03:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20594: master-branch broke my init Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 01:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20594 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Cc: 20594@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20594-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20594.143199936627587 (code B ref 20594); Tue, 19 May 2015 01:37:01 +0000 Received: (at 20594) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2015 01:36:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49502 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YuWRx-0007As-KD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 21:36:05 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:21504) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YuWRu-0007AN-Up for 20594@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2015 21:36:03 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhcJAGvvdVTO+LMW/2dsb2JhbAA3gVOhHVKBCIF1AQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiBOiEYwCHEYHAgECAQKBVIFqA4NwBKNjhFg X-IPAS-Result: AhcJAGvvdVTO+LMW/2dsb2JhbAA3gVOhHVKBCIF1AQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiBOiEYwCHEYHAgECAQKBVIFqA4NwBKNjhFg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.11,557,1422939600"; d="scan'208";a="120746446" Received: from 206-248-179-22.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.179.22]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 18 May 2015 21:35:57 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 25D0B2B99; Mon, 18 May 2015 21:35:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <5558AACC.9070001@easy-emacs.de> Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 21:35:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: <5558AACC.9070001@easy-emacs.de> ("Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?="'s message of "Sun, 17 May 2015 16:50:52 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > any Emacs started with error - while loading the dispatched setup > manually worked. Please don't tell us which error you get, lest we'd get some idea of how to fix it! Stefan