From unknown Mon Sep 08 01:50:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20569: 24.5; Vertical scroll bar is shorter than frame in info buffer Resent-From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 00:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 20569 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 20569@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.143156441132358 (code B ref -1); Thu, 14 May 2015 00:47:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2015 00:46:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44204 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YshIW-0008Pi-9e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 20:46:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54336) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YshIT-0008PK-CM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 20:46:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YshIL-0001EU-Oz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 20:46:40 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:38734) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YshIL-0001EN-Lx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 20:46:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39578) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YshIJ-0004G0-3g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 20:46:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YshIE-0001BM-2W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 20:46:35 -0400 Received: from mail-ig0-x232.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c05::232]:38440) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YshID-0001BF-RW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 20:46:29 -0400 Received: by igbhj9 with SMTP id hj9so60385309igb.1 for ; Wed, 13 May 2015 17:46:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=k3pi+Uw7mBvDhqjgVzc18UaSWnvBQEblN12WXPzCXpw=; b=qj7JRSrzqADeUYV36W1rzkPEskU995C3zN5QYx7pynuYwS16/v1NeeK2joR+0ou/VS thjJ06d7ElvXvNXVoQDLATbJiMiszJn6grR5qCO9u3YRK8ZU8ZMgqFpOSR1wl0yjL4LI dX5yM9yCWDpG3l+6WM0gKT4ecWaX27Tb8WniqH8iaobvJLttTNsOGXenczoHljbu4GvH s3HO0ti7PmbwugRyJ1tS5IEq2NKJIF9F/Qr0sBZxjfqTnFjeQKkf9QPGuQXOQREXw1I5 SA67z5cXR2a7W9LnO9/CXXcGcmKLdCj9+XkM1TGdPepkXeL01Z8/H1qkmfcGVqIvrDTM VqIA== X-Received: by 10.107.47.21 with SMTP id j21mr2007113ioo.17.1431564387447; Wed, 13 May 2015 17:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moondust.localdomain.nodomain.none (blk-224-167-158.eastlink.ca. [24.224.167.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f7sm4785078igq.7.2015.05.13.17.46.25 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 13 May 2015 17:46:26 -0700 (PDT) From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 21:46:19 -0300 Message-ID: <87lhgs3s10.fsf@moondust.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) Recipe: emacs -Q M-x i n f o RET Expected Result: The vertical scroll bar extends over the entire frame height, "blending" into the menu bar at the top right. Observed Result: The vertical scroll bar does not extend over the entire frame height. There is a gap at the top, below the menu bar. The top row of the info buffer, the one that contains the navigation information, seems to extend too far to the right (although it does not in fact seem to overlie (in the z-order as it were) the scroll bar, rather the scroll bar appears to be drawn with its top below (in y-coordinate) the top row of the info buffer. The problem is more pronounced with a dark Emacs theme. (I use Wheatgrass.) I'm guessing the problem also affects other modes that use the top row of the buffer in a similar way. 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(buffers 960 45) (heap 1024 81762 1651)) From unknown Mon Sep 08 01:50:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20569: 24.5; Vertical scroll bar is shorter than frame in info buffer Resent-From: "Jan D." 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Jackson" Cc: 20569@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20569-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20569.143159112431018 (code B ref 20569); Thu, 14 May 2015 08:13:02 +0000 Received: (at 20569) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2015 08:12:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44384 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YsoFO-00083v-4d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 04:12:04 -0400 Received: from mailfe09.swip.net ([212.247.155.1]:54442 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YsoFJ-00083F-9T for 20569@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 04:12:00 -0400 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe09.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 423410256; Thu, 14 May 2015 10:11:49 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) From: "Jan D." In-Reply-To: <87lhgs3s10.fsf@moondust.localdomain> Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 10:11:47 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6763ACD5-57CB-4F90-ABDB-FF9BE7322FC1@swipnet.se> References: <87lhgs3s10.fsf@moondust.localdomain> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Hi. The top row is a header row, it does not scroll, so there is no point in = having the scroll bar extend into it. Jan D. > 14 maj 2015 kl. 02:46 skrev N. Jackson : >=20 > Recipe: >=20 > emacs -Q > M-x i n f o RET >=20 > Expected Result: >=20 > The vertical scroll bar extends over the entire frame height, = "blending" > into the menu bar at the top right. >=20 > Observed Result: >=20 > The vertical scroll bar does not extend over the entire frame height. > There is a gap at the top, below the menu bar. >=20 > The top row of the info buffer, the one that contains the navigation > information, seems to extend too far to the right (although it does = not > in fact seem to overlie (in the z-order as it were) the scroll bar, > rather the scroll bar appears to be drawn with its top below (in > y-coordinate) the top row of the info buffer. >=20 > The problem is more pronounced with a dark Emacs theme. (I use > Wheatgrass.) >=20 > I'm guessing the problem also affects other modes that use the top row > of the buffer in a similar way. >=20 >=20 > In GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.12) > of 2015-04-17 on buildvm-04.phx2.fedoraproject.org > Windowing system distributor `Fedora Project', version 11.0.11603000 > System Description: Fedora release 21 (Twenty One) >=20 > Configured using: > `configure --build=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu > --host=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu --program-prefix=3D > --disable-dependency-tracking --prefix=3D/usr --exec-prefix=3D/usr > --bindir=3D/usr/bin --sbindir=3D/usr/sbin --sysconfdir=3D/etc > --datadir=3D/usr/share --includedir=3D/usr/include --libdir=3D/usr/lib64= > --libexecdir=3D/usr/libexec --localstatedir=3D/var > --sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib --mandir=3D/usr/share/man > --infodir=3D/usr/share/info --with-dbus --with-gif --with-jpeg = --with-png > --with-rsvg --with-tiff --with-xft --with-xpm --with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk3 > --with-gpm=3Dno build_alias=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu > host_alias=3Dx86_64-redhat-linux-gnu 'CFLAGS=3D-DMAIL_USE_LOCKF -O2 -g > -pipe -Wall -Werror=3Dformat-security -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3D2 > -fexceptions -fstack-protector-strong --param=3Dssp-buffer-size=3D4 > -grecord-gcc-switches -m64 -mtune=3Dgeneric' 'LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-z,relro = '' >=20 > Important settings: > value of $LC_MONETARY: en_DK.utf8 > value of $LC_NUMERIC: en_DK.utf8 > value of $LC_TIME: en_DK.utf8 > value of $LANG: en_CA.utf8 > value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dibus > locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix >=20 > Major mode: Group >=20 > Minor modes in effect: > gnus-undo-mode: t > recentf-mode: t > display-battery-mode: t > display-time-mode: t > delete-selection-mode: t > show-paren-mode: t > savehist-mode: t > iswitchb-mode: t > electric-pair-mode: t > desktop-save-mode: t > cua-mode: t > tooltip-mode: t > electric-indent-mode: t > mouse-wheel-mode: t > menu-bar-mode: t > file-name-shadow-mode: t > global-font-lock-mode: t > font-lock-mode: t > blink-cursor-mode: t > auto-composition-mode: t > auto-encryption-mode: t > auto-compression-mode: t > buffer-read-only: t > size-indication-mode: t > column-number-mode: t > line-number-mode: t > global-visual-line-mode: t > visual-line-mode: t > transient-mark-mode: t >=20 > Recent messages: > Opening connection to localhost via tls... > Opening connection to localhost...done > Opening nnimap server on Local Dovecot Mailstore...done > 2 new newsgroups have arrived > Checking new news... > nnimap read 48k from localhost (initial sync of 1 group; please wait) > Reading active file from archive via nnfolder...done > Checking new news...done > GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.12) of = 2015-04-17 on buildvm-04.phx2.fedoraproject.org > previous-buffer: Cannot switch buffers in minibuffer window >=20 > Load-path shadows: > /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/maxima-modes hides = /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/maxima/site_start.d/maxima-modes > 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81762 1651)) >=20 >=20 From unknown Mon Sep 08 01:50:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20569: 24.5; Vertical scroll bar is shorter than frame in info buffer Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 10:15:06 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20569 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Jan D." , "N. Jackson" Cc: 20569@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20569-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20569.143159847512455 (code B ref 20569); Thu, 14 May 2015 10:15:06 +0000 Received: (at 20569) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2015 10:14:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44458 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ysq9z-0003Eo-6N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:14:35 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:63649) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ysq9x-0003EZ-1h for 20569@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:14:33 -0400 Received: from [178.190.18.121] ([178.190.18.121]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MCfcc-1Z29oS3tgo-009Rv0; Thu, 14 May 2015 12:14:23 +0200 Message-ID: <55547578.9060903@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 12:14:16 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87lhgs3s10.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <6763ACD5-57CB-4F90-ABDB-FF9BE7322FC1@swipnet.se> In-Reply-To: <6763ACD5-57CB-4F90-ABDB-FF9BE7322FC1@swipnet.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:hYeRlTUEYkyOFthcUMKXHvA+8hNWo+QR5xnjEoWmP8fV4GKozDN 3V78X3ZmgUihgwX5ph3BIjjs284lD2c3iIQSh6Xkc9prmFhxemTSczA+LOGrlJm/+cISGXa Oi9HIzEjQpNKCPPF33PpxhsKB2p8qxWqhtrxwzcxsgkwGSGETzvWPZisQr883h0X04eMJ0E Bvkg/V/zcTebXEvJvfG/g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > The top row is a header row, it does not scroll, so there is no point in having the scroll bar extend into it. The "top row" aka "header line" behaves exactly like the "bottom row" aka "mode line" in this regard. martin From unknown Mon Sep 08 01:50:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20569: 24.5; Vertical scroll bar is shorter than frame in info buffer Resent-From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 13:32:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20569 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 20569@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: "Jan D." 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[134.190.134.156]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m25sm17816221qkh.26.2015.05.14.06.31.09 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 14 May 2015 06:31:09 -0700 (PDT) From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) References: <87lhgs3s10.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <6763ACD5-57CB-4F90-ABDB-FF9BE7322FC1@swipnet.se> Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 10:31:07 -0300 In-Reply-To: <6763ACD5-57CB-4F90-ABDB-FF9BE7322FC1@swipnet.se> (Jan D.'s message of "Thu, 14 May 2015 10:11:47 +0200") Message-ID: <87d223476s.fsf@moondust.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) At 05:11 -0300 on Thursday 2015-05-14, Jan D. wrote: > The top row is a header row, it does not scroll, so there is no point > in having the scroll bar extend into it. It is visually unappealing. More importantly, it is inconsistent with usage in other software. For example, in a GUI file management program such as Dolphin or Nautilus the top row of the client area of the window is also a header ( it contains the field headings such as "Name", "Date", and "Permissions"), yet the scroll bar extends past this header to meet up with the decorations across the top of the window. And in a spreadsheet program such a LibreOffice Calc, the top row contains the labels of the columns (such as "A", "B", "C"), yet, again, the scroll bar extends up to the top of the window. Emacs does a lot of things differently (and better) than other programs, but the widgets of a graphical user interface constitute a visual language. Would it not be better for Emacs to speak the same language as the rest of the world rather than inventing its own? >> 14 maj 2015 kl. 02:46 skrev N. Jackson : >> >> Recipe: >> >> emacs -Q >> M-x i n f o RET >> >> Expected Result: >> >> The vertical scroll bar extends over the entire frame height, "blending" >> into the menu bar at the top right. >> >> Observed Result: >> >> The vertical scroll bar does not extend over the entire frame height. >> There is a gap at the top, below the menu bar. >> >> The top row of the info buffer, the one that contains the navigation >> information, seems to extend too far to the right (although it does not >> in fact seem to overlie (in the z-order as it were) the scroll bar, >> rather the scroll bar appears to be drawn with its top below (in >> y-coordinate) the top row of the info buffer. >> >> The problem is more pronounced with a dark Emacs theme. (I use >> Wheatgrass.) >> >> I'm guessing the problem also affects other modes that use the top row >> of the buffer in a similar way. >> >> >> In GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.12) >> of 2015-04-17 on buildvm-04.phx2.fedoraproject.org >> Windowing system distributor `Fedora Project', version 11.0.11603000 >> System Description: Fedora release 21 (Twenty One) >> >> Configured using: >> `configure --build=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu >> --host=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu --program-prefix= >> --disable-dependency-tracking --prefix=/usr --exec-prefix=/usr >> --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --sysconfdir=/etc >> --datadir=/usr/share --includedir=/usr/include --libdir=/usr/lib64 >> --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --localstatedir=/var >> --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --mandir=/usr/share/man >> --infodir=/usr/share/info --with-dbus --with-gif --with-jpeg --with-png >> --with-rsvg --with-tiff --with-xft --with-xpm --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 >> --with-gpm=no 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t >> blink-cursor-mode: t >> auto-composition-mode: t >> auto-encryption-mode: t >> auto-compression-mode: t >> buffer-read-only: t >> size-indication-mode: t >> column-number-mode: t >> line-number-mode: t >> global-visual-line-mode: t >> visual-line-mode: t >> transient-mark-mode: t >> >> Recent messages: >> Opening connection to localhost via tls... >> Opening connection to localhost...done >> Opening nnimap server on Local Dovecot Mailstore...done >> 2 new newsgroups have arrived >> Checking new news... >> nnimap read 48k from localhost (initial sync of 1 group; please wait) >> Reading active file from archive via nnfolder...done >> Checking new news...done >> GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.12) of 2015-04-17 on buildvm-04.phx2.fedoraproject.org >> previous-buffer: Cannot switch buffers in minibuffer window >> >> Load-path shadows: >> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/maxima-modes hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/maxima/site_start.d/maxima-modes 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From unknown Mon Sep 08 01:50:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20569: 24.5; Vertical scroll bar is shorter than frame in info buffer Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 15:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20569 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) Cc: 20569@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 20569-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20569.143161652829073 (code B ref 20569); Thu, 14 May 2015 15:16:02 +0000 Received: (at 20569) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2015 15:15:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45179 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ysur9-0007Yn-Os for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 11:15:28 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:48871) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ysur7-0007YP-T1 for 20569@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 11:15:26 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NOC00000I8BEJ00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 20569@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 18:15:03 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NOC00NMJID253C0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Thu, 14 May 2015 18:15:03 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 18:15:00 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87d223476s.fsf@moondust.localdomain> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83wq0bi423.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87lhgs3s10.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <6763ACD5-57CB-4F90-ABDB-FF9BE7322FC1@swipnet.se> <87d223476s.fsf@moondust.localdomain> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) > Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 10:31:07 -0300 > > At 05:11 -0300 on Thursday 2015-05-14, Jan D. wrote: > > > The top row is a header row, it does not scroll, so there is no point > > in having the scroll bar extend into it. > > It is visually unappealing. > > More importantly, it is inconsistent with usage in other software. > > For example, in a GUI file management program such as Dolphin or > Nautilus the top row of the client area of the window is also a header ( > it contains the field headings such as "Name", "Date", and > "Permissions"), yet the scroll bar extends past this header to meet up > with the decorations across the top of the window. If the scroll bar extended past the header line, users would expect that line to scroll, which it doesn't. Anyway, this is how the header line was designed and implemented in Emacs. We have tabulated-list-mode for the other kind. The Info reader uses the header line for a good reason: it shows there stuff that needs to be always visible, so it cannot be the first line of the buffer, or behave like one. From unknown Mon Sep 08 01:50:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20569: 24.5; Vertical scroll bar is shorter than frame in info buffer Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 15:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20569 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) Cc: 20569@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20569-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20569.14316191019352 (code B ref 20569); Thu, 14 May 2015 15:59:02 +0000 Received: (at 20569) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2015 15:58:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45252 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YsvWd-0002Qi-JA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 11:58:20 -0400 Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]:43748) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YsvWb-0002QY-L2 for 20569@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 11:58:17 -0400 Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361D311C045; Thu, 14 May 2015 11:58:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0ACA1A97E5; Thu, 14 May 2015 11:57:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 934C7B41A0; Thu, 14 May 2015 11:57:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <87lhgs3s10.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <6763ACD5-57CB-4F90-ABDB-FF9BE7322FC1@swipnet.se> <87d223476s.fsf@moondust.localdomain> Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 11:57:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87d223476s.fsf@moondust.localdomain> (N. Jackson's message of "Thu, 14 May 2015 10:31:07 -0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82, MC_TSTLAST 0.00) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > Emacs does a lot of things differently (and better) than other programs, > but the widgets of a graphical user interface constitute a visual > language. Would it not be better for Emacs to speak the same language as > the rest of the world rather than inventing its own? I don't think this difference matters very much either way. Since both options have justifications, I'm sure some people will want to keep the current behavior, so either we'll have to annoy them, or introduce a config var, which will make the code yet a bit more hairy in this respect. If someone wants to submit a patch to change that, we will consider it, but I doubt you'll find someone motivated enough to tweak this little detail. Stefan From unknown Mon Sep 08 01:50:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20569: 24.5; Vertical scroll bar is shorter than frame in info buffer Resent-From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 19:10:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20569 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 20569@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 20569-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20569.143284016118993 (code B ref 20569); Thu, 28 May 2015 19:10:04 +0000 Received: (at 20569) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 May 2015 19:09:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59799 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yy3BA-0004wG-TO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 May 2015 15:09:21 -0400 Received: from mail-qk0-f182.google.com ([209.85.220.182]:35716) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yy3B9-0004w3-EQ for 20569@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 May 2015 15:09:20 -0400 Received: by qkhq76 with SMTP id q76so3539485qkh.2 for <20569@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 28 May 2015 12:09:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=jwrnWzh0vIvBWjoDnNioxDWjfuxiQEIVWny0IUuXltU=; b=Lck4/tbSiWFPYVIfZE91hnx1PMMBxtv8z1hjm0IVubb4IMsVbsSddFVo25j/HUw5Hl ltBS6ZEXjhfTRe3ZqrBk701L5K+SPp1ptPpBZKR8rhuU71reiR9vtbbuRzV7U4L8jqBD 36Q6h4MEPVptf8QfcPfmX1/vH2z185K0m0QFouApNlT6MSFDeeWs620e5oYnSzFKJTEd R6550/jeUDtrgnEahf//eqHYH/OXaYx30B7P9QfRISkA7R+IGEEJ+A7USx498WSqYz57 LmZj043rgpkGNpmjxwDXgSLWPXkXUkjtjGK3UXkKGswzP5bNIG52fA0Ev//0mpYCoJNb 60Cw== X-Received: by 10.229.249.137 with SMTP id mk9mr2415234qcb.21.1432840153976; Thu, 28 May 2015 12:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moondust.localdomain.nodomain.none (hlfxns0163w-142177117108.pppoe-dynamic.High-Speed.ns.bellaliant.net. [142.177.117.108]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f15sm1490529qkh.23.2015.05.28.12.09.12 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 28 May 2015 12:09:13 -0700 (PDT) From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) References: <87lhgs3s10.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <6763ACD5-57CB-4F90-ABDB-FF9BE7322FC1@swipnet.se> <87d223476s.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83wq0bi423.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 16:09:11 -0300 In-Reply-To: <83wq0bi423.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 14 May 2015 18:15:00 +0300") Message-ID: <871ti0ldt4.fsf@moondust.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) At 12:15 -0300 on Thursday 2015-05-14, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > If the scroll bar extended past the header line, users would expect > that line to scroll, which it doesn't. Well, the scroll bar extends past the header line in the other programs I mentioned (Spreadsheets, file managers) but those header lines don't scroll. > Anyway, this is how the header line was designed and implemented in > Emacs. We have tabulated-list-mode for the other kind. The Info > reader uses the header line for a good reason: it shows there stuff > that needs to be always visible, so it cannot be the first line of the > buffer, or behave like one. Fair enough. It is a very minor blemish, and obviously not worth the investment of effort to fix (if "fix" is even the right word). In the game of Mah Jong, one must take the most scrupulous care while building the wall to ensure that all four sides meet exactly and there are no gaps. Otherwise it's terribly bad luck or evil spirits will get in or something. (I forget exactly.) It is in a similar vein of superstition, perhaps laced with a touch of compulsiveness, that it disturbs me seeing a gap in the border of a window/frame! I would like to work around the problem in my personal settings -- I feel that should be possible by simply changing the colour of the header line to match the colour of my windows -- but after some attempts at this I was not completely successful. I customised some faces to use the same background colour as my windowing system widgets (gray94) (with readable foreground colours): (custom-set-faces '(header-line ((t (:inherit mode-line :background "grey94" :foreground "black" :box nil)))) '(info-header-node ((t (:inherit info-node :background "gray94" :foreground "black")))) '(info-header-xref ((t (:inherit info-xref :background "gray94" :foreground "navy"))))) So far so good. Now I don't have a disturbing gap in my window/frame in Info which is great. (Not sure if there'll be a problem with the header line in other modes, but I can tweak those as I notice problems.) Unfortunately, another issue arises. The breadcrumbs at the top of the Info buffer now have the wrong background colour! The breadcrumbs seem to also use Info Header Node face and the Info Header Xref face. It seems inappropriate that they should use Header faces since they are not in the header. Is there a way to prevent them from doing so? Thanks. From unknown Mon Sep 08 01:50:28 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20569: 24.5; Vertical scroll bar is shorter than frame in info buffer Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 09:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20569 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) Cc: 20569@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 20569-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20569.143297916719958 (code B ref 20569); Sat, 30 May 2015 09:47:02 +0000 Received: (at 20569) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 May 2015 09:46:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32900 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YydLB-0005Bm-43 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 May 2015 05:46:06 -0400 Received: from mtaout26.012.net.il ([80.179.55.182]:37563) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YydL6-0005B6-MU for 20569@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 May 2015 05:46:01 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout26.012.net.il by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NP500200PRQET00@mtaout26.012.net.il> for 20569@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 May 2015 12:47:49 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NP500ORYPVPZX20@mtaout26.012.net.il>; Sat, 30 May 2015 12:47:49 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 12:45:52 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <871ti0ldt4.fsf@moondust.localdomain> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83wpzqv1nz.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87lhgs3s10.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <6763ACD5-57CB-4F90-ABDB-FF9BE7322FC1@swipnet.se> <87d223476s.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83wq0bi423.fsf@gnu.org> <871ti0ldt4.fsf@moondust.localdomain> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) > Cc: Eli Zaretskii > Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 16:09:11 -0300 > > I would like to work around the problem in my personal settings -- I > feel that should be possible by simply changing the colour of the header > line to match the colour of my windows -- but after some attempts at > this I was not completely successful. > > I customised some faces to use the same background colour as my > windowing system widgets (gray94) (with readable foreground colours): > > (custom-set-faces > '(header-line ((t (:inherit mode-line :background "grey94" :foreground "black" :box nil)))) > '(info-header-node ((t (:inherit info-node :background "gray94" :foreground "black")))) > '(info-header-xref ((t (:inherit info-xref :background "gray94" :foreground "navy"))))) > > So far so good. Now I don't have a disturbing gap in my window/frame in > Info which is great. (Not sure if there'll be a problem with the header > line in other modes, but I can tweak those as I notice problems.) > > Unfortunately, another issue arises. The breadcrumbs at the top of the > Info buffer now have the wrong background colour! > > The breadcrumbs seem to also use Info Header Node face and the Info > Header Xref face. It seems inappropriate that they should use Header > faces since they are not in the header. Is there a way to prevent them > from doing so? Not that I see, no. Perhaps request a feature whereby the breadcrumbs display will use a separate face. 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