From unknown Sat Sep 06 00:11:39 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#20552 <20552@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#20552 <20552@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: modify-frame-parameters left edge positioning Reply-To: bug#20552 <20552@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2025 07:11:39 +0000 retitle 20552 modify-frame-parameters left edge positioning reassign 20552 emacs submitter 20552 gottlieb@nyu.edu severity 20552 minor thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 11 16:10:32 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 May 2015 20:10:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41271 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yru23-0000kY-Fy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 16:10:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45087) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yru1u-0000k8-Np for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 16:10:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yru1k-0006At-R9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 16:10:17 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:33666) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yru1k-0006Ap-O4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 16:10:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58578) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yru1j-0005vS-Fk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 16:10:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yru1g-0006AB-7c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 16:10:11 -0400 Received: from mx2.cims.nyu.edu ([128.122.49.96]:56819) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yru1g-00069n-4u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 16:10:08 -0400 Received: from smtp.cs.nyu.edu (smtp.cs.nyu.edu [128.122.49.97]) by mx2.cims.nyu.edu (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t4BKA5lM001029 for ; Mon, 11 May 2015 16:10:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newlap.localdomain (ool-18be5dbd.dyn.optonline.net [24.190.93.189]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.cs.nyu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t4BKA3Wp001026 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 11 May 2015 16:10:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by newlap.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BB6EEA947C; Mon, 11 May 2015 16:10:03 -0400 (EDT) From: gottlieb@nyu.edu To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.4; cc Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 16:10:03 -0400 Message-ID: <87zj5aq3j8.fsf@nyu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.1 (mx2.cims.nyu.edu [128.122.49.96]); Mon, 11 May 2015 16:10:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at mx2 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 on 128.122.49.96 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) I execute the following function in *scratch* on a fresh emacs -Q (modify-frame-parameters nil '( (width . 176) (left . -1300))) My screen is 2560x1600. Emacs version is 24.4. System is gentoo/gnome. The width does become 176. However, left is not correct (it should be flush left but is nearly centered). The weird part is if I execute the same command again (a second C-j in *scratch), the frame moves to the correct, flush left, position. (Since my screen is 2560 wide (left . -1300) should have the right edge a little left of center, instead it is very much right of center.) In GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.9) of 2015-04-01 on newlap Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11604000 System Description: Gentoo Base System release 2.2 Configured using: `configure --prefix=/usr --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib --disable-dependency-tracking --disable-silent-rules --libdir=/usr/lib64 --program-suffix=-emacs-24 --infodir=/usr/share/info/emacs-24 --localstatedir=/var --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp --with-gameuser=:gamestat --without-compress-install --with-file-notification=inotify --enable-acl --with-dbus --without-gnutls --with-gpm --without-hesiod --without-kerberos --without-kerberos5 --with-xml2 --without-selinux --without-wide-int --with-zlib --with-sound=alsa --with-x --without-ns --without-gconf --without-gsettings --with-toolkit-scroll-bars --with-gif --with-jpeg --with-png --with-rsvg --with-tiff --with-xpm --without-imagemagick --with-xft --without-libotf --without-m17n-flt --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 GENTOO_PACKAGE=app-editors/emacs-24.4-r4 'CFLAGS=-march=native -O2 -pipe' CPPFLAGS= 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed'' Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.utf8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: eldoc-mode: t ido-everywhere: t nroff-electric-mode: t tooltip-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: M-x r e p o r t - e v m Recent messages: Setting font to -unknown-DejaVu Sans Mono-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1 Source file `/home/gottlieb/.emacs.d/lisp/ajg-courses.el' newer than byte-compiled file Setting printer to lj Loading help-funs+...done Source file `/home/gottlieb/.emacs.d/lisp/ajg-sgml.el' newer than byte-compiled file Loading /home/gottlieb/.emacs.d/lisp/custom-file.el (source)... 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Features: (shadow sort flyspell ispell mail-extr gnus-msg emacsbug sendmail eldoc tsdh-dark-theme ido cus-start cus-load ajg-sgml help-fns+ help-mode info ehelp rolo ajg-dired dired-x dired ajg-gnus gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 epg-config mm-view mml-smime smime password-cache dig mailcap gnus-sum nnoo gnus-group gnus-undo nnmail mail-source gnus-start gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range message format-spec rfc822 mml easymenu mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader gnus-win gnus gnus-ems nnheader gnus-util mail-utils mm-util help-fns mail-prsvr wid-edit ajg-printer nroff-mode ajg-nroff ajg-courses ajg-filling ajg-fonts edmacro kmacro cl-loaddefs cl-lib site-gentoo tex-site auto-loads time-date tooltip electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 158048 6897) (symbols 48 26684 0) (miscs 40 48 140) (strings 32 38648 7449) (string-bytes 1 1124873) (vectors 16 17283) (vector-slots 8 470924 3376) (floats 8 226 78) (intervals 56 275 0) (buffers 960 11) (heap 1024 23792 3565)) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 12 05:36:47 2015 Received: (at 20552) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2015 09:36:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41649 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ys6cI-00076M-Ae for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 May 2015 05:36:46 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:58278) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ys6cG-000765-EC for 20552@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 May 2015 05:36:44 -0400 Received: from [62.47.248.4] ([62.47.248.4]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LsTge-1ZKWUQ02K8-0120JW; Tue, 12 May 2015 11:36:38 +0200 Message-ID: <5551C9A2.6050301@gmx.at> Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 11:36:34 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gottlieb@nyu.edu, 20552@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#20552: 24.4; cc References: <87zj5aq3j8.fsf@nyu.edu> In-Reply-To: <87zj5aq3j8.fsf@nyu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:QRztvnoNTw5sIM5V68fKkWbPXnnmE/bYIVJGB/NCjPDBJvnrZWX YxOpPc1lF3/I9T8Q3P47FlYCM2xlkMAVFuyTqfWWPX9ret5yrpUJmH3LJLYeIV/IhZYH4j6 m2Omogt8dpMCx81Ev8P4xiNStyKoXndxUzVeY33e3SRDbke+bh0Vs4ZEtySb+Zx08KwlLhx VztoKO88it6Dg66Jtwalg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20552 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > I execute the following function in *scratch* on a fresh emacs -Q > > (modify-frame-parameters nil '( (width . 176) (left . -1300))) > > My screen is 2560x1600. Emacs version is 24.4. System is gentoo/gnome. > > The width does become 176. > However, left is not correct (it should be flush left but is nearly > centered). Why do you think it should be "flush left"? When you specify (left . -1300) Emacs will tell the window manager to position the right edge of the frame 1300 pixels to the left of the right screen edge. You will get a "flush left" effect if and only if your screen is as wide as (+ 1300 (* 176 (frame-char-width))) plus the space needed for scrollbars and frame decorations. Why don't you use (left . 0)? > The weird part is if I execute the same command again (a second C-j in > *scratch), the frame moves to the correct, flush left, position. > > (Since my screen is 2560 wide (left . -1300) should have the right edge > a little left of center, instead it is very much right of center.) Maybe your window manager tries to keep the frame within the screen boundaries. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 12 11:57:04 2015 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2015 15:57:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42557 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YsCYJ-0001Nl-Qq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 May 2015 11:57:04 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:56936 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YsCYH-0001NO-FX for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 May 2015 11:57:01 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YsCYG-0004sb-NC for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 May 2015 11:57:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 11:57:00 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 20552 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) retitle 20552 modify-frame-parameters left edge positioning From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 13 03:37:18 2015 Received: (at 20552) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 May 2015 07:37:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42997 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YsRED-0002wk-Ki for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 03:37:18 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:64193) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YsREC-0002wX-3m for 20552@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 03:37:16 -0400 Received: from [188.22.104.219] ([188.22.104.219]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LgptO-1ZWOH41n8A-00oG46; Wed, 13 May 2015 09:37:08 +0200 Message-ID: <5552FF1F.2010901@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 09:37:03 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gottlieb@nyu.edu, "20552@debbugs.gnu.org" <20552@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Re: bug#20552: 24.4; cc References: <87zj5aq3j8.fsf@nyu.edu> <5551C9A2.6050301@gmx.at> <87zj5aq8ol.fsf@nyu.edu> In-Reply-To: <87zj5aq8ol.fsf@nyu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:JfaXRyBYFVV5IA30Wuo8e8gJnzBKpnXDxJk2MeoiPgYpteWzpeQ j7stTOfG9afGFZhIHrfMSnSfoOnDK6+fF19jvjAzCfBmdCQugSxlgk+ogUHbYKltdxkV0F+ kFP5oWpPXQBMtxne97EisgbeTqNaHBZOuoA6sBmwOywfJNoAfC1OFxr7ZDiqVR8s0GwLYxz ED9F7/W4hiPlBpBLwshqg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20552 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Please don't remove <20552@debbugs.gnu.org> from the list of recipients. > I started with (left . 0). That moves the frame close to the left edge > but not quite flush left. If I manually move the frame flush left and > execute (modify-frame-parameters nil '( (width . 176) ( left . 0))) > the frame moves *right* so that it is again about 1/8 inch away Hmm... which window manager? Would (modify-frame-parameters nil '((user-position . t) (width . 176) (left . 0))) change anything? >>> The weird part is if I execute the same command again (a second C-j in >>> *scratch), the frame moves to the correct, flush left, position. >>> >>> (Since my screen is 2560 wide (left . -1300) should have the right edge >>> a little left of center, instead it is very much right of center.) >> >> Maybe your window manager tries to keep the frame within the screen >> boundaries. > > The weird part is that > > (modify-frame-parameters nil '( (width . 176) (left . -1300))) > > done once is not flush left but if done a second time to the same > emacs -Q is flush left My usual answer here is that eventually Jan will kick in and explain. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 13 09:34:04 2015 Received: (at 20552) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 May 2015 13:34:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43248 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YsWnS-0006QN-Vh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 09:34:04 -0400 Received: from mx2.cims.nyu.edu ([128.122.49.96]:58230) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YsWnP-0006Q7-MH for 20552@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 09:34:00 -0400 Received: from smtp.cs.nyu.edu (smtp.cs.nyu.edu [128.122.49.97]) by mx2.cims.nyu.edu (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t4DDXvpr022586; Wed, 13 May 2015 09:33:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newlap.localdomain (ool-18be5dbd.dyn.optonline.net [24.190.93.189]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.cs.nyu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t4DDXuZc022583 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 13 May 2015 09:33:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by newlap.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 45354AA156; Wed, 13 May 2015 09:33:56 -0400 (EDT) From: gottlieb@nyu.edu To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#20552: 24.4; cc References: <87zj5aq3j8.fsf@nyu.edu> <5551C9A2.6050301@gmx.at> <87zj5aq8ol.fsf@nyu.edu> <5552FF1F.2010901@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 09:33:56 -0400 In-Reply-To: <5552FF1F.2010901@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Wed, 13 May 2015 09:37:03 +0200") Message-ID: <87fv701u0r.fsf@nyu.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.1 (mx2.cims.nyu.edu [128.122.49.96]); Wed, 13 May 2015 09:33:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at mx2 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 on 128.122.49.96 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20552 Cc: "20552@debbugs.gnu.org" <20552@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) On Wed, May 13 2015, martin rudalics wrote: > Please don't remove <20552@debbugs.gnu.org> from the list of recipients. > >> I started with (left . 0). That moves the frame close to the left edge >> but not quite flush left. If I manually move the frame flush left and >> execute (modify-frame-parameters nil '( (width . 176) ( left . 0))) >> the frame moves *right* so that it is again about 1/8 inch away > > Hmm... which window manager? Would > > (modify-frame-parameters nil '((user-position . t) (width . 176) (left . 0))) > > change anything? > Indeed! As you wrote it there is no difference. (left . 0) remains about 1/8 inch right of flush left (even if executed twice). BUT (modify-frame-parameters nil '((user-position . t) (width . 176) (left . -1300)) does become flush left on an initial emacs -Q whereas without the user-position (which I will now read about) it required two executions to become flush left. Recall, previously the first execution left the frame several inches right of flush left but a second execution made it flush left. I have modified my scripts to include (user-position . t) and eliminated the embarrassing repeat execution. >>>> The weird part is if I execute the same command again (a second C-j in >>>> *scratch), the frame moves to the correct, flush left, position. >>>> >>>> (Since my screen is 2560 wide (left . -1300) should have the right edge >>>> a little left of center, instead it is very much right of center.) >>> >>> Maybe your window manager tries to keep the frame within the screen >>> boundaries. >> >> The weird part is that >> >> (modify-frame-parameters nil '( (width . 176) (left . -1300))) >> >> done once is not flush left but if done a second time to the same >> emacs -Q is flush left > > My usual answer here is that eventually Jan will kick in and explain. > > martin Thanks you very much. allan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 13 09:40:16 2015 Received: (at 20552) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 May 2015 13:40:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43253 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YsWtT-0006aA-Ek for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 09:40:16 -0400 Received: from mx2.cims.nyu.edu ([128.122.49.96]:58594) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YsWtO-0006a0-W6 for 20552@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 May 2015 09:40:12 -0400 Received: from smtp.cs.nyu.edu (smtp.cs.nyu.edu [128.122.49.97]) by mx2.cims.nyu.edu (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t4DDe9iA022816; Wed, 13 May 2015 09:40:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newlap.localdomain (ool-18be5dbd.dyn.optonline.net [24.190.93.189]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.cs.nyu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t4DDe6nE022813 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 13 May 2015 09:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by newlap.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8DBCEAA156; Wed, 13 May 2015 09:40:06 -0400 (EDT) From: gottlieb@nyu.edu To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#20552: 24.4; cc References: <87zj5aq3j8.fsf@nyu.edu> <5551C9A2.6050301@gmx.at> <87zj5aq8ol.fsf@nyu.edu> <5552FF1F.2010901@gmx.at> <87fv701u0r.fsf@nyu.edu> Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 09:40:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87fv701u0r.fsf@nyu.edu> (gottlieb@nyu.edu's message of "Wed, 13 May 2015 09:33:56 -0400") Message-ID: <874mng1tqh.fsf@nyu.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.1 (mx2.cims.nyu.edu [128.122.49.96]); Wed, 13 May 2015 09:40:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at mx2 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 on 128.122.49.96 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20552 Cc: "20552@debbugs.gnu.org" <20552@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) On Wed, May 13 2015, martin rudalics wrote: > Please don't remove <20552@debbugs.gnu.org> from the list of recipients. Sorry. >> I started with (left . 0). That moves the frame close to the left edge >> but not quite flush left. If I manually move the frame flush left and >> execute (modify-frame-parameters nil '( (width . 176) ( left . 0))) >> the frame moves *right* so that it is again about 1/8 inch away > > Hmm... which window manager? mutter / gnome-shell allan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 14 06:14:16 2015 Received: (at 20552) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2015 10:14:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44455 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ysq9f-0003ED-LM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:14:15 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:55030) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ysq9e-0003Dw-6V for 20552@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:14:14 -0400 Received: from [178.190.18.121] ([178.190.18.121]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LcBPV-1Za6uo28ZR-00jbaE; Thu, 14 May 2015 12:14:07 +0200 Message-ID: <55547566.1040801@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 12:13:58 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gottlieb@nyu.edu Subject: Re: bug#20552: 24.4; cc References: <87zj5aq3j8.fsf@nyu.edu> <5551C9A2.6050301@gmx.at> <87zj5aq8ol.fsf@nyu.edu> <5552FF1F.2010901@gmx.at> <87fv701u0r.fsf@nyu.edu> In-Reply-To: <87fv701u0r.fsf@nyu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:8reoAcOSk11OeoJ0TB/lwpek60AWUJDh6vdPb/k6oRztyXCZepi 21b3RIoc2UdtE7dnBQAUoaHzge0HtHXb/xN4/qRpbKRyXZ/piFQn/nrf100IbHQbcZdjyTR BrQcHi47O0abw0vg3z/cw7AOijQkuidk4e3hNd0F/ILswovow5R8mCxz4nPJhfLvYh7NCtQ QvAPwz/9er57F7DwHtpzw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20552 Cc: "20552@debbugs.gnu.org" <20552@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > As you wrote it there is no difference. (left . 0) remains > about 1/8 inch right of flush left (even if executed twice). BUT > > (modify-frame-parameters nil '((user-position . t) (width . 176) > (left . -1300)) > > does become flush left on an initial emacs -Q whereas without the > user-position (which I will now read about) it required two executions > to become flush left. Recall, previously the first execution left the frame > several inches right of flush left but a second execution made it flush > left. Still weird. What happens with (modify-frame-parameters nil '((user-position . t) (width . 176) (left . 1))) Also, you could try playing with the `(+ POS)' and `(- POS)' position specifications (see section 28.3.3.2 Position Parameters of the Elisp manual). martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 14 16:33:19 2015 Received: (at 20552) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2015 20:33:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45433 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yszok-0004XH-F0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 16:33:19 -0400 Received: from mx2.cims.nyu.edu ([128.122.49.96]:54615) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yszoh-0004X6-Nq for 20552@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 16:33:16 -0400 Received: from smtp.cs.nyu.edu (smtp.cs.nyu.edu [128.122.49.97]) by mx2.cims.nyu.edu (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t4EKXDfr026332; Thu, 14 May 2015 16:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newlap.localdomain (c-50-176-80-241.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [50.176.80.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.cs.nyu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t4EKXBqC026326 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 14 May 2015 16:33:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by newlap.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B6DF9AA1BE; Thu, 14 May 2015 16:33:11 -0400 (EDT) From: gottlieb@nyu.edu To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#20552: 24.4; cc References: <87zj5aq3j8.fsf@nyu.edu> <5551C9A2.6050301@gmx.at> <87zj5aq8ol.fsf@nyu.edu> <5552FF1F.2010901@gmx.at> <87fv701u0r.fsf@nyu.edu> <55547566.1040801@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 16:33:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: <55547566.1040801@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Thu, 14 May 2015 12:13:58 +0200") Message-ID: <87382yvr08.fsf@nyu.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.1 (mx2.cims.nyu.edu [128.122.49.96]); Thu, 14 May 2015 16:33:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at mx2 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 on 128.122.49.96 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20552 Cc: "20552@debbugs.gnu.org" <20552@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) On Thu, May 14 2015, martin rudalics wrote: >> As you wrote it there is no difference. (left . 0) remains >> about 1/8 inch right of flush left (even if executed twice). BUT >> >> (modify-frame-parameters nil '((user-position . t) (width . 176) >> (left . -1300)) >> >> does become flush left on an initial emacs -Q whereas without the >> user-position (which I will now read about) it required two executions >> to become flush left. Recall, previously the first execution left the frame >> several inches right of flush left but a second execution made it flush >> left. > > Still weird. What happens with > > (modify-frame-parameters nil '((user-position . t) (width . 176) (left . 1))) I am not at the 2560x1600 screen. But I tried (left . 1) anyway. It is still about 1/8 inch from flush-left. I tried (on this 1680x1050 monitor) (left -1300) and tried (left . -500) both gave flush left. Conclusions 1. (user-position . t) is needed to get flush left immediately. The manual is clear on this if you know to look at user-position. 2. (left . 0) is not quite flush left even with user-position. Same for (left . 1). Perhaps the window manager is causing this. 3. (The weird part) without user-position (left -1300) is not close to flush left when executed once but is flush left if repeated. Its as though the second time it carries the force of user-position despite user-position not having ever been specified on this fresh emacs -Q. > Also, you could try playing with the `(+ POS)' and `(- POS)' position > specifications (see section 28.3.3.2 Position Parameters of the Elisp > manual). > > martin I tried those before I knew about (i.e., you told me about) user-position and I still could not get flush left. I will try again with (user-position . t). Thanks again, allan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 14 16:58:57 2015 Received: (at 20552) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2015 20:58:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45442 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yt0DZ-00057R-4h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 16:58:57 -0400 Received: from mx2.cims.nyu.edu ([128.122.49.96]:55548) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yt0DX-00057J-Cx for 20552@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2015 16:58:55 -0400 Received: from smtp.cs.nyu.edu (smtp.cs.nyu.edu [128.122.49.97]) by mx2.cims.nyu.edu (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t4EKwrK8001363; Thu, 14 May 2015 16:58:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newlap.localdomain (c-50-176-80-241.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [50.176.80.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.cs.nyu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t4EKwqMO001355 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 14 May 2015 16:58:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by newlap.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8394FAA1BE; Thu, 14 May 2015 16:58:52 -0400 (EDT) From: gottlieb@nyu.edu To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#20552: 24.4; cc References: <87zj5aq3j8.fsf@nyu.edu> <5551C9A2.6050301@gmx.at> <87zj5aq8ol.fsf@nyu.edu> <5552FF1F.2010901@gmx.at> <87fv701u0r.fsf@nyu.edu> <55547566.1040801@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 16:58:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: <55547566.1040801@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Thu, 14 May 2015 12:13:58 +0200") Message-ID: <87y4kqub8z.fsf@nyu.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.1 (mx2.cims.nyu.edu [128.122.49.96]); Thu, 14 May 2015 16:58:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at mx2 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.73 on 128.122.49.96 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20552 Cc: "20552@debbugs.gnu.org" <20552@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) On Thu, May 14 2015, martin rudalics wrote: >> As you wrote it there is no difference. (left . 0) remains >> about 1/8 inch right of flush left (even if executed twice). BUT >> >> (modify-frame-parameters nil '((user-position . t) (width . 176) >> (left . -1300)) >> >> does become flush left on an initial emacs -Q whereas without the >> user-position (which I will now read about) it required two executions >> to become flush left. Recall, previously the first execution left the frame >> several inches right of flush left but a second execution made it flush >> left. > > Still weird. What happens with > > (modify-frame-parameters nil '((user-position . t) (width . 176) (left . 1))) > > Also, you could try playing with the `(+ POS)' and `(- POS)' position > specifications (see section 28.3.3.2 Position Parameters of the Elisp > manual). I tried this with user-position and it is weird, I would say buggy. (modify-frame-parameters nil '((user-position . t) (width . 176) (left . (- 1300)))) did give flush left on a fresh emacs -Q but the result is bad. The original scroll bar is still there so it looks like there are two windows side by side in the frame (C-x 3) but there is only one window, only one mode line, and C-x o is a no-op. thanks, allan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 15 12:45:18 2015 Received: (at 20552) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 May 2015 16:45:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46431 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YtIjd-0002yf-Md for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 May 2015 12:45:17 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:58830) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YtIjb-0002yP-1C for 20552@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 May 2015 12:45:15 -0400 Received: from [93.82.74.132] ([93.82.74.132]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MGSDw-1YxgSB2wDo-00DF6C; Fri, 15 May 2015 18:45:07 +0200 Message-ID: <5556228B.6000302@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 18:44:59 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gottlieb@nyu.edu Subject: Re: bug#20552: 24.4; cc References: <87zj5aq3j8.fsf@nyu.edu> <5551C9A2.6050301@gmx.at> <87zj5aq8ol.fsf@nyu.edu> <5552FF1F.2010901@gmx.at> <87fv701u0r.fsf@nyu.edu> <55547566.1040801@gmx.at> <87382yvr08.fsf@nyu.edu> In-Reply-To: <87382yvr08.fsf@nyu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:8oU/hiPGrG+6d+mGk5OBz1V7HEiIXBY9CEqHEOp7XwTH+6MWe1C O1404xdB06GGoP51IP0DqrD80MFuaky6wJDvkIxclUOTXYYiyZ55RJeTU4vs7dVLyTKFE5Q W/uPXAwSIKPajeVtIpxib6wgKLP+A2GdSGQX8ZTQfGBg208ZVF3ZENb//Q4IsUD5OjGzPro Ad4/+Kb0xzESfuJ7+IBhw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20552 Cc: "20552@debbugs.gnu.org" <20552@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > 2. (left . 0) is not quite flush left even with user-position. > Same for (left . 1). Perhaps the window manager is causing this. Does (modify-frame-parameters nil '((user-position . t) (width . 176) (left . (+ -1)))) flush left? If not, what is the largest value less than -1 to flush left with the (+ POS) notation? martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 19 05:42:58 2015 Received: (at 20552) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2015 09:42:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49619 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yue37-0001zj-EX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 05:42:57 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:64432) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yue34-0001zR-SD for 20552@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 May 2015 05:42:55 -0400 Received: from [62.47.248.64] ([62.47.248.64]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lux3h-1ZL0XG2HVh-0101va; Tue, 19 May 2015 11:42:47 +0200 Message-ID: <555B0594.4010607@gmx.at> Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 11:42:44 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gottlieb@nyu.edu, "20552@debbugs.gnu.org" <20552@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Re: bug#20552: 24.4; cc References: <87zj5aq3j8.fsf@nyu.edu> <5551C9A2.6050301@gmx.at> <87zj5aq8ol.fsf@nyu.edu> <5552FF1F.2010901@gmx.at> <87fv701u0r.fsf@nyu.edu> <55547566.1040801@gmx.at> <87382yvr08.fsf@nyu.edu> <5556228B.6000302@gmx.at> <87twvdn4tm.fsf@nyu.edu> In-Reply-To: <87twvdn4tm.fsf@nyu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:7LEAebfQ0b4JE0mkak9R9se+/hj35eShCY90BKqDpJV+o2M0TeV QDvc7nR/d8bad4Phig6v1YuXWEanLuRiY9yLamlRs/KQ9eOSZysMiaGp70g6YH/bgjsTOIP f1ctyLJhde+1JZ+QlHQWSbrTiGxJoNWF88hGfPpKT/GAS5ZeB8KxCHniIXPMWAkogZNf+Rp YOFvDso8qgluL+x15oygw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20552 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) >> If not, what is the largest value less than -1 to flush left with the >> (+ POS) notation? > > -4 > >> martin > > (modify-frame-parameters nil > '((user-position . t) > (width . 176) > (left . (+ -4)))) > > is flush left (on the 1680x1050 monitor) > > (modify-frame-parameters nil > '((user-position . t) > (width . 176) > (left . (+ -3)))) > > is not quite flush left (on the same monitor). Thanks. I added an abbreviated version of this as example to the Elisp manual. Any objections to closing this bug? martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 20 05:50:50 2015 Received: (at 20552-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 May 2015 09:50:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50726 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yv0eH-0006pS-Uh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2015 05:50:50 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:49939) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yv0eF-0006pE-F0 for 20552-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2015 05:50:47 -0400 Received: from [178.191.136.40] ([178.191.136.40]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MEFqW-1YxDYm1nUu-00FTOE; Wed, 20 May 2015 11:50:40 +0200 Message-ID: <555C58EB.60301@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 11:50:35 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gottlieb@nyu.edu, "20552-done@debbugs.gnu.org" <20552-done@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Re: bug#20552: 24.4; cc References: <87zj5aq3j8.fsf@nyu.edu> <5551C9A2.6050301@gmx.at> <87zj5aq8ol.fsf@nyu.edu> <5552FF1F.2010901@gmx.at> <87fv701u0r.fsf@nyu.edu> <55547566.1040801@gmx.at> <87382yvr08.fsf@nyu.edu> <5556228B.6000302@gmx.at> <87twvdn4tm.fsf@nyu.edu> <555B0594.4010607@gmx.at> <87r3qcodz4.fsf@nyu.edu> In-Reply-To: <87r3qcodz4.fsf@nyu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:srQ2ccQEG0+bdeymrxeGI373n84yIcTd7IbFDArcDrXG19BiTg/ qOZqfq1/PedF5Cxfl5ENuaI+FOk4Qqba1s61DSyc+dGJPRWYEegGwRonyq0wW04/iucECtv OeLBBmu40oGosikFS8sFh91VcJTlWlHBAMXkv47rjXgfWVxlwyaTc/T0+h2gekkaU2WyaBK VOnL4GxENTqkEoKBQTBmA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20552-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Bug closed. 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