From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:15:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20522: 25.0.50; `C-u C-x =' output, `to input' field Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 00:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 20522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 20522@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.143095700015066 (code B ref -1); Thu, 07 May 2015 00:04:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 May 2015 00:03:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36650 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq9Hb-0003uu-7J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 20:03:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56750) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq9HY-0003uh-Ne for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 20:03:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq9HS-0003xi-Ho for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 20:03:11 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,GAPPY_SUBJECT autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:50814) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq9HS-0003xe-FB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 20:03:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42024) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq9HR-0007fJ-Gj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 20:03:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq9HO-0003xS-7Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 20:03:09 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:50492) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq9HN-0003xM-Vt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 20:03:06 -0400 Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t47034K9031835 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 7 May 2015 00:03:05 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t47034Qs025944 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 7 May 2015 00:03:04 GMT Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t47033UV015384 for ; Thu, 7 May 2015 00:03:04 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <988c8ea5-e184-4d53-99d6-cd354006f45b@default> Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 17:03:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) C-u C-x 8 RET GREEK CAPITAL LETTER PSI RET C-b C-u C-x =3D Buffer *Help* says this, for field `to input': type "C-x 8 RET HEX-CODEPOINT" or "C-x 8 RET NAME" It should instead be able to say something like this: type "C-x 8 RET 0x03A8" or "C-x 8 RET GREEK CAPITAL LETTER PSI" Both of these pieces of information are shown in the same buffer *Help*. It seems a bit silly to tell a user to type HEX-CODEPOINT or NAME, when these are known when *Help* is created. In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-10-20 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 118168 rgm@gnu.org-20141020195941-icp42t8ttcnud09g Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs CPPFLAGS=3D-DGLYPH_DEBUG=3D1' From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:15:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20522: 25.0.50; =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98C-u?= C-x =?UTF-8?Q?=3D=E2=80=99?= output, =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98to_?= =?UTF-8?Q?input=E2=80=99?= field Resent-From: Ivan Shmakov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 07:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 20522@debbugs.gnu.org, control@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20522.143098263923873 (code B ref 20522); Thu, 07 May 2015 07:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 20522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 May 2015 07:10:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36797 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YqFx8-0006Ct-If for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2015 03:10:39 -0400 Received: from fely.am-1.org ([78.47.74.50]:42058) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YqFx4-0006Cb-S0; Thu, 07 May 2015 03:10:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=IcKx0ECOOg46puupwqVlMsbebKuN75PpvBu8m+KrA8w=; b=gi+kJRSMKVdZpd4+Y+TJpZYyAkyZsMa9HdziAqcBccmZUSJrgI0Hxsa6Y6rqu0YMMpHp+oqLWaKNsr7kkjr55ioJJTyphPeu00Cr7qlqb3blBRhvBP1TX8qkidOI/KnC+Yi73JI3AMINB/V+Dru9rBaCRzKnm6PhI6YB3YxAl3M=; Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YqFx1-0007SU-5s; Thu, 07 May 2015 07:10:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YqFwu-00082O-3f; Thu, 07 May 2015 14:10:24 +0700 From: Ivan Shmakov References: <988c8ea5-e184-4d53-99d6-cd354006f45b@default> Mail-Followup-To: 20522@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 07:10:23 +0000 In-Reply-To: <988c8ea5-e184-4d53-99d6-cd354006f45b@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 6 May 2015 17:03:02 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87h9rokgm8.fsf@violet.siamics.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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Content preview: tag 20522 + patch tag 20519 + patch thanks >>>>> Drew Adams writes: > C-u C-x 8 RET GREEK CAPITAL LETTER PSI RET C-b C-u C-x = [...] Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.7 SPF_NEUTRAL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (neutral) 1.3 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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Content preview: tag 20522 + patch tag 20519 + patch thanks >>>>> Drew Adams writes: > C-u C-x 8 RET GREEK CAPITAL LETTER PSI RET C-b C-u C-x = [...] Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.7 SPF_NEUTRAL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (neutral) 1.3 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tag 20522 + patch tag 20519 + patch thanks >>>>> Drew Adams writes: > C-u C-x 8 RET GREEK CAPITAL LETTER PSI RET C-b C-u C-x =3D > Buffer *Help* says this, for field `to input': > type "C-x 8 RET HEX-CODEPOINT" or "C-x 8 RET NAME" > It should instead be able to say something like this: > type "C-x 8 RET 0x03A8" or "C-x 8 RET GREEK CAPITAL LETTER PSI" > Both of these pieces of information are shown in the same buffer > *Help*. It seems a bit silly to tell a user to type HEX-CODEPOINT or > NAME, when these are known when *Help* is created. Please consider the patch MIMEd. * lisp/descr-text.el (describe-char): Show the exact C-x 8 RET invocation instead of a template. (Bug#20522) [=E2=80=A6] --=20 FSF associate member #7257 np. Danger Zone =E2=80=94 Rainbow =E2=80=A6 3= 013 B6A0 230E 334A --=-=-= Content-Type: text/diff Content-Disposition: inline --- a/lisp/descr-text.el +++ b/lisp/descr-text.el @@ -618,7 +618,9 @@ defun describe-char (pos &optional buffer) 'help-args '(,current-input-method)) "input method") (list - "type \"C-x 8 RET HEX-CODEPOINT\" or \"C-x 8 RET NAME\""))))) + (format + "type \"C-x 8 RET %04x\" or \"C-x 8 RET %s\"" + char (get-char-code-property char 'name))))))) ("buffer code" ,(if multibyte-p (encoded-string-description --=-=-=-- From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:15:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20522: 25.0.50; =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98C-u?= C-x =?UTF-8?Q?=3D=E2=80=99?= output, =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98to_?= =?UTF-8?Q?input=E2=80=99?= field Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 14:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Ivan Shmakov Cc: 20522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 20522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20522.143100991719811 (code B ref 20522); Thu, 07 May 2015 14:46:02 +0000 Received: (at 20522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 May 2015 14:45:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37920 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YqN36-00059S-8w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2015 10:45:17 -0400 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:59615) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YqN34-00059C-2Y for 20522@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2015 10:45:15 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NNZ00F00I84MM00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 20522@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2015 17:45:07 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NNZ00FM1IB7KE30@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Thu, 07 May 2015 17:45:07 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 17:45:18 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87h9rokgm8.fsf@violet.siamics.net> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <838ud0qwe9.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit References: <988c8ea5-e184-4d53-99d6-cd354006f45b@default> <87h9rokgm8.fsf@violet.siamics.net> X-Spam-Score: 2.3 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: Ivan Shmakov > Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 07:10:23 +0000 > > --- a/lisp/descr-text.el > +++ b/lisp/descr-text.el > @@ -618, 7 +618, 9 @@ defun describe-char (pos &optional buffer) > 'help-args '(,current-input-method)) > "input method") > (list > - "type \"C-x 8 RET HEX-CODEPOINT\" or \"C-x 8 RET > NAME\""))))) > + (format > + "type \"C-x 8 RET %04x\" or \"C-x 8 RET %s\"" ^^^^ I see no need to tell users to type at least 4 hex digits: "C-x 8 RET" accepts even one digit. So I think we should use %x here. 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Content preview: > From: Ivan Shmakov > Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 07:10:23 +0000 > > --- a/lisp/descr-text.el > +++ b/lisp/descr-text.el > @@ -618,7 +618,9 @@ defun describe-char (pos &optional buffer) > 'help-args '(,current-input-method)) > "input method") > (list > - "type \"C-x 8 RET HEX-CODEPOINT\" or \"C-x 8 RET > NAME\""))))) > + (format > + "type \"C-x 8 RET %04x\" or \"C-x 8 RET %s\"" ^^^^ I see no need to tell users to type at least 4 hex digits: "C-x 8 RET" accepts even one digit. So I think we should use %x here. [...] Content analysis details: (2.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.169 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 1.3 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t > From: Ivan Shmakov > Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 07:10:23 +0000 > > --- a/lisp/descr-text.el > +++ b/lisp/descr-text.el > @@ -618,7 +618,9 @@ defun describe-char (pos &optional buffer) > 'help-args '(,current-input-method)) > "input method") > (list > - "type \"C-x 8 RET HEX-CODEPOINT\" or \"C-x 8 RET > NAME\""))))) > + (format > + "type \"C-x 8 RET %04x\" or \"C-x 8 RET %s\"" ^^^^ I see no need to tell users to type at least 4 hex digits: "C-x 8 RET" accepts even one digit. So I think we should use %x here. > + char (get-char-code-property char 'name))))))) Not every Unicode codepoint has a name, so get-char-code-property could return nil. E.g., try with any codepoint between zero and #x1f, inclusive. When that happens, we should try 'old-name' instead, and if that returns nil as well (try #x99, for example), I think the "by name" part should be omitted from the output of describe-char. Thanks. From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:15:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20522: 25.0.50; =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98C-u?= C-x =?UTF-8?Q?=3D=E2=80=99?= output, =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98to_?= =?UTF-8?Q?input=E2=80=99?= field Resent-From: Ivan Shmakov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 15:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 20522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20522.143101175422859 (code B ref 20522); Thu, 07 May 2015 15:16:02 +0000 Received: (at 20522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 May 2015 15:15:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37941 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YqNWj-0005wb-HH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2015 11:15:54 -0400 Received: from fely.am-1.org ([78.47.74.50]:42112) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YqNWg-0005wP-Kz for 20522@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2015 11:15:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=CagBkylFSgqt31YfU//Ne0sCQ9PKE2BXJMKnQpsFKa4=; b=Byq1oN9Qa0nfqmxXtW0vSCBdrdgsQnyltDQiTFkpByiGUYIA8Ncd0+84ZIe3A57VD6zGBdjvT4xSY8tFKm79K0vFEDypnYFRSs387jVqyQFeqNyfdbPUvX4ZzUoglYIJmw4BEJl4qHi4m5AmBxlnTaZHll0lrh9zaXOIs66IzuU=; Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YqNWf-0001HY-G2 for 20522@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2015 15:15:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YqNWW-0001cX-H1 for 20522@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2015 22:15:41 +0700 From: Ivan Shmakov References: <988c8ea5-e184-4d53-99d6-cd354006f45b@default> <87h9rokgm8.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <838ud0qwe9.fsf@gnu.org> Mail-Followup-To: 20522@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 15:15:32 +0000 In-Reply-To: <838ud0qwe9.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 07 May 2015 17:45:18 +0300") Message-ID: <874mnoju5n.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>>>> From: Ivan Shmakov Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 07:10:23 +0000 >> + (format >> + "type \"C-x 8 RET %04x\" or \"C-x 8 RET %s\"" > ^^^^ I see no need to tell users to type at > least 4 hex digits: "C-x 8 RET" accepts even one digit. So I think > we should use %x here. 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Content preview: >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>>>> From: Ivan Shmakov Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 07:10:23 +0000 >> + (format >> + "type \"C-x 8 RET %04x\" or \"C-x 8 RET %s\"" > ^^^^ I see no need to tell users to type at > least 4 hex digits: "C-x 8 RET" accepts even one digit. So I think > we should use %x here. [...] Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.7 SPF_NEUTRAL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (neutral) 1.3 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>>>> From: Ivan Shmakov Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 07:10:23 +0000 >> + (format >> + "type \"C-x 8 RET %04x\" or \"C-x 8 RET %s\"" > ^^^^ I see no need to tell users to type at > least 4 hex digits: "C-x 8 RET" accepts even one digit. So I think > we should use %x here. >> + char (get-char-code-property char 'name))))))) > Not every Unicode codepoint has a name, so get-char-code-property > could return nil. E. g., try with any codepoint between zero and > #x1f, inclusive. When that happens, we should try 'old-name' > instead, and if that returns nil as well (try #x99, for example), I > think the "by name" part should be omitted from the output of > describe-char. (I=E2=80=99ve suspected something like that, but didn=E2=80=99t check.) Please consider the revised patch MIMEd. * lisp/descr-text.el (describe-char): Show the exact C-x 8 RET invocation instead of a template. (Bug#20522) It was also requested in bug#20499 that a specific C-x 8 (iso-transl) sequence is shown. Yet I believe that deserves a separate patch. --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://am-1.org/~ivan/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A --=-=-= Content-Type: text/diff Content-Disposition: inline --- a/lisp/descr-text.el +++ b/lisp/descr-text.el @@ -618,7 +618,14 @@ defun describe-char (pos &optional buffer) 'help-args '(,current-input-method)) "input method") (list - "type \"C-x 8 RET HEX-CODEPOINT\" or \"C-x 8 RET NAME\""))))) + (let ((name + (or (get-char-code-property char 'name) + (get-char-code-property char 'old-name)))) + (if name + (format + "type \"C-x 8 RET %x\" or \"C-x 8 RET %s\"" + char name) + (format "type \"C-x 8 RET %x\"" char)))))))) ("buffer code" ,(if multibyte-p (encoded-string-description --=-=-=-- From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:15:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20522: 25.0.50; =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98C-u?= C-x =?UTF-8?Q?=3D=E2=80=99?= output, =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98to_?= =?UTF-8?Q?input=E2=80=99?= field Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 15:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Ivan Shmakov Cc: 20522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 20522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20522.143101306225060 (code B ref 20522); Thu, 07 May 2015 15:38:02 +0000 Received: (at 20522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 May 2015 15:37:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37956 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YqNrp-0006W7-GA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2015 11:37:41 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:44846) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YqNrm-0006Vp-4w for 20522@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2015 11:37:39 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NNZ00C00KL92S00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 20522@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2015 18:37:31 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NNZ00BSVKQIYR90@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Thu, 07 May 2015 18:37:31 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 18:37:41 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <874mnoju5n.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <836184qtyy.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <988c8ea5-e184-4d53-99d6-cd354006f45b@default> <87h9rokgm8.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <838ud0qwe9.fsf@gnu.org> <874mnoju5n.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> X-Spam-Score: 2.3 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: Ivan Shmakov > Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 15:15:32 +0000 > > Please consider the revised patch MIMEd. > > * lisp/descr-text.el (describe-char): Show the exact C-x 8 RET > invocation instead of a template. (Bug#20522) > > It was also requested in bug#20499 that a specific C-x 8 > (iso-transl) sequence is shown. Yet I believe that deserves a > separate patch. > > -- > FSF associate member #7257 http://am-1.org/~ivan/ =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=A6?= 3013 B6A0 230E 334A > > [2:text/diff Hide] > > --- a/lisp/descr-text.el > +++ b/lisp/descr-text.el > @@ -618,7 +618,14 @@ defun describe-char (pos &optional buffer) > 'help-args '(,current-input-method)) > "input method") > (list > - "type \"C-x 8 RET HEX-CODEPOINT\" or \"C-x 8 RET NAME\""))))) > + (let ((name > + (or (get-char-code-property char 'name) > + (get-char-code-property char 'old-name)))) > + (if name > + (format > + "type \"C-x 8 RET %x\" or \"C-x 8 RET %s\"" > + char name) > + (format "type \"C-x 8 RET %x\"" char)))))))) > ("buffer code" > ,(if multibyte-p > (encoded-string-description [...] Content analysis details: (2.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.175 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 1.3 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 2.3 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > From: Ivan Shmakov > Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 15:15:32 +0000 > > Please consider the revised patch MIMEd. > > * lisp/descr-text.el (describe-char): Show the exact C-x 8 RET > invocation instead of a template. (Bug#20522) > > It was also requested in bug#20499 that a specific C-x 8 > (iso-transl) sequence is shown. Yet I believe that deserves a > separate patch. > > -- > FSF associate member #7257 http://am-1.org/~ivan/ =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=A6?= 3013 B6A0 230E 334A > > [2:text/diff Hide] > > --- a/lisp/descr-text.el > +++ b/lisp/descr-text.el > @@ -618,7 +618,14 @@ defun describe-char (pos &optional buffer) > 'help-args '(,current-input-method)) > "input method") > (list > - "type \"C-x 8 RET HEX-CODEPOINT\" or \"C-x 8 RET NAME\""))))) > + (let ((name > + (or (get-char-code-property char 'name) > + (get-char-code-property char 'old-name)))) > + (if name > + (format > + "type \"C-x 8 RET %x\" or \"C-x 8 RET %s\"" > + char name) > + (format "type \"C-x 8 RET %x\"" char)))))))) > ("buffer code" > ,(if multibyte-p > (encoded-string-description [...] Content analysis details: (2.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.175 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 1.3 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t > From: Ivan Shmakov > Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 15:15:32 +0000 > > Please consider the revised patch MIMEd. > > * lisp/descr-text.el (describe-char): Show the exact C-x 8 RET > invocation instead of a template. (Bug#20522) > > It was also requested in bug#20499 that a specific C-x 8 > (iso-transl) sequence is shown. Yet I believe that deserves a > separate patch. > > -- > FSF associate member #7257 http://am-1.org/~ivan/ … 3013 B6A0 230E 334A > > [2:text/diff Hide] > > --- a/lisp/descr-text.el > +++ b/lisp/descr-text.el > @@ -618,7 +618,14 @@ defun describe-char (pos &optional buffer) > 'help-args '(,current-input-method)) > "input method") > (list > - "type \"C-x 8 RET HEX-CODEPOINT\" or \"C-x 8 RET NAME\""))))) > + (let ((name > + (or (get-char-code-property char 'name) > + (get-char-code-property char 'old-name)))) > + (if name > + (format > + "type \"C-x 8 RET %x\" or \"C-x 8 RET %s\"" > + char name) > + (format "type \"C-x 8 RET %x\"" char)))))))) > ("buffer code" > ,(if multibyte-p > (encoded-string-description LGTM, thanks. From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:15:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20522: 25.0.50; =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98C-u?= C-x =?UTF-8?Q?=3D=E2=80=99?= output, =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98to_?= =?UTF-8?Q?input=E2=80=99?= field Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 15:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Ivan Shmakov , 20522@debbugs.gnu.org, control@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20522.143101416626915 (code B ref 20522); Thu, 07 May 2015 15:57:02 +0000 Received: (at 20522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 May 2015 15:56:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37998 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YqO9d-0006zy-KG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 May 2015 11:56:05 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:41661) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YqO9Z-0006zM-8b; Thu, 07 May 2015 11:56:02 -0400 Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t47FttoN010860 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 7 May 2015 15:55:55 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t47FtsMS024290 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 7 May 2015 15:55:54 GMT Received: from abhmp0011.oracle.com (abhmp0011.oracle.com [141.146.116.17]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t47Fts8S002490; Thu, 7 May 2015 15:55:54 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 08:55:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams References: <988c8ea5-e184-4d53-99d6-cd354006f45b@default> <87h9rokgm8.fsf@violet.siamics.net> In-Reply-To: <87h9rokgm8.fsf@violet.siamics.net> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > > C-u C-x 8 RET GREEK CAPITAL LETTER PSI RET C-b C-u C-x =3D > > Buffer *Help* says this, for field `to input': > > type "C-x 8 RET HEX-CODEPOINT" or "C-x 8 RET NAME" > > It should instead be able to say something like this: > > type "C-x 8 RET 0x03A8" or "C-x 8 RET GREEK CAPITAL LETTER PSI" >=20 > > Both of these pieces of information are shown in the same buffer > > *Help*. It seems a bit silly to tell a user to type HEX- > > CODEPOINT or NAME, when these are known when *Help* is created. >=20 > =09Please consider the patch MIMEd. > =09* lisp/descr-text.el (describe-char): Show the exact C-x 8 > RET invocation instead of a template. (Bug#20522) Looks good; thanks. From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:15:18 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.503 (Entity 5.503) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Drew Adams Subject: bug#20522: closed (Re: bug#20522: 25.0.50; =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98C-u?= C-x =?UTF-8?Q?=3D=E2=80=99?= output, =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98to_?= =?UTF-8?Q?input=E2=80=99?= field ) Message-ID: References: <87zj4pfyb7.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> <988c8ea5-e184-4d53-99d6-cd354006f45b@default> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 20522 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: patch Reply-To: 20522@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 22:31:09 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1432765869-16953-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1432765869-16953-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #20522: 25.0.50; `C-u C-x =3D' output, `to input' field which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 20522@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 20522: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D20522 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1432765869-16953-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 20522-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 May 2015 22:30:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58711 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yxjqc-0004OW-NB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 18:30:51 -0400 Received: from fely.am-1.org ([78.47.74.50]:46045) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YxjqZ-0004ON-47 for 20522-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 18:30:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=Gv/IHj+xsFNc8/KQLBCQq1DbjIU8edVUpun1BYAM74w=; b=l8KhMi0rrOa8F4bJVStZ8PD81Z8fYv6LDbaVPBEkXEgmOQ5sKQ2WsTNLFptnLdJN4BW3PKA/rhQb8kVOWjIjZvPraoMcvl/y9ZUWkH38PBZIhrjHuN9wotC6GZwuIk4EDpKdanjYL+jEFQ4g8P7KOn8kulj/dlwVTqxoQ0EHnWM=; Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YxjqX-00032b-J2 for 20522-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 22:30:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YxjqQ-00066J-TI for 20522-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 May 2015 05:30:39 +0700 From: Ivan Shmakov To: 20522-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#20522: 25.0.50; =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98C-u?= C-x =?utf-8?Q?=3D=E2=80=99?= output, =?utf-8?B?4oCYdG8gaW5wdXTigJk=?= field References: <988c8ea5-e184-4d53-99d6-cd354006f45b@default> <87h9rokgm8.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <838ud0qwe9.fsf@gnu.org> <874mnoju5n.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> <836184qtyy.fsf@gnu.org> Mail-Followup-To: 20522@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 22:30:36 +0000 In-Reply-To: <836184qtyy.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 07 May 2015 18:37:41 +0300") Message-ID: <87zj4pfyb7.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Version: 25.1 >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>>>> From: Ivan Shmakov Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 15:15:32 +0000 >> Please consider the revised patch MIMEd. 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Content preview: Version: 25.1 >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>>>> From: Ivan Shmakov Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 15:15:32 +0000 >> Please consider the revised patch MIMEd. [...] Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.7 SPF_NEUTRAL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (neutral) 1.3 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid Version: 25.1 >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>>>> From: Ivan Shmakov Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 15:15:32 +0000 >> Please consider the revised patch MIMEd. >> * lisp/descr-text.el (describe-char): Show the exact C-x 8 RET >> invocation instead of a template. (Bug#20522) [=E2=80=A6] > LGTM, thanks. Pushed, closing. commit 21b81bd8c51cf48e08089087a17f66eb70625748 Date: 2015-05-27 22:14:57 +0000 Show the exact C-x 8 RET invocation in describe-char. * lisp/descr-text.el (describe-char): Show the exact C-x 8 RET invocation instead of a template. (Bug#20522) --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://am-1.org/~ivan/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A ------------=_1432765869-16953-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 May 2015 00:03:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36650 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq9Hb-0003uu-7J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 20:03:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56750) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq9HY-0003uh-Ne for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 20:03:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq9HS-0003xi-Ho for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 20:03:11 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,GAPPY_SUBJECT autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:50814) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq9HS-0003xe-FB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 20:03:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42024) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq9HR-0007fJ-Gj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 20:03:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq9HO-0003xS-7Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 20:03:09 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:50492) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yq9HN-0003xM-Vt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2015 20:03:06 -0400 Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t47034K9031835 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 7 May 2015 00:03:05 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t47034Qs025944 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 7 May 2015 00:03:04 GMT Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t47033UV015384 for ; Thu, 7 May 2015 00:03:04 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <988c8ea5-e184-4d53-99d6-cd354006f45b@default> Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 17:03:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.0.50; `C-u C-x =' output, `to input' field X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) C-u C-x 8 RET GREEK CAPITAL LETTER PSI RET C-b C-u C-x =3D Buffer *Help* says this, for field `to input': type "C-x 8 RET HEX-CODEPOINT" or "C-x 8 RET NAME" It should instead be able to say something like this: type "C-x 8 RET 0x03A8" or "C-x 8 RET GREEK CAPITAL LETTER PSI" Both of these pieces of information are shown in the same buffer *Help*. It seems a bit silly to tell a user to type HEX-CODEPOINT or NAME, when these are known when *Help* is created. 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