From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:12:42 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#20483 <20483@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#20483 <20483@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 25.0.50; Customize buffer `Show' for whole option: return previously shown display Reply-To: bug#20483 <20483@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 00:12:42 +0000 retitle 20483 25.0.50; Customize buffer `Show' for whole option: return pre= viously shown display reassign 20483 emacs submitter 20483 Drew Adams severity 20483 wishlist tag 20483 wontfix thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 01 13:57:19 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 May 2015 17:57:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58915 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFBf-0004pR-20 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:57:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46347) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFBc-0004pB-Fk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:57:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFBW-0004vH-CM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:57:11 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:38362) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFBW-0004vD-9t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:57:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59813) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFBR-00018M-7j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:57:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFBN-0004tf-7I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:57:05 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:24594) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YoFBM-0004tT-Qd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2015 13:57:01 -0400 Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t41Hux7E024110 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 1 May 2015 17:56:59 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t41HuwRq001670 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 1 May 2015 17:56:59 GMT Received: from abhmp0001.oracle.com (abhmp0001.oracle.com [141.146.116.7]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t41HuwU2019476 for ; Fri, 1 May 2015 17:56:58 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <631e8064-f236-4389-bd63-e39351f3d221@default> Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 10:56:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.0.50; Customize buffer `Show' for whole option: return previously shown display X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) You can consider this an enhancement request. Essentially, it removes control by the main hide/show button from deciding what gets shown wrt the doc string. It gives that doc-string control only to the other hide/show button, which is designed for doc-string visibility control. emacs -Q M-x customize-option blink-cursor-mode By default, everything is shown. There are two `Hide' buttons: 1. At the far left, to hide everything other than the option name and the first line of the doc string. 2. After the first line of the doc string. Click #1, to hide (almost) everything. That button changes to `Show Value', and the other `Hide' button changes to `More'. Which is OK (but see below, about the name of button `Show Value'). Click #1 again. It should return to the previous state, but button #2 still says `More' and the rest of the doc string is still hidden. IOW, #1 should toggle between hiding (almost) everything and returning to whatever was shown before it was clicked to hide stuff. Another way to see that this proposed behavior would be better: Click the `More' button (#2), to show all of the doc string. Then click #1, to hide (almost) everything. Then click #1 again. A user would reasonably expect it to show what was last shown wrt the doc string, i.e., the full doc string. IOW, #1 should not decide what it *shows*, wrt #2 (but it is OK for it to decide what it hides). If this gets fixed as described then `Show Value' should be renamed just `Show'. The main hide/show button (#1) should toggle between (a) hiding everything except the option name and first doc line and (b) showing everything, except as last decided by button #2. This lets the user use #2 (and only #2) to decide about the doc string display, and use #1 to hide a maximum of stuff. In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2015-04-05 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 16eec6fc55dcc05d1d819f18998e84a9580b2521 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --host=3Di686-pc-mingw32 --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 11 22:21:41 2022 Received: (at 20483) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2022 02:21:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39015 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1noyST-0004g0-LB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 22:21:41 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:48030) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1noySR-0004fh-OD for 20483@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 22:21:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=4rzEkarNyJwxBwTBCzEUxFLdEtj5MFTMtCoKokjQBv0=; b=gTBhJCxi4GZMb3DB9qKlERrdqg Mu1IwBPK+6gondOUNpCYOhFHxzItfXJU4KPFoTFedlwxnSbEl8N8vD7OnRmqUtbqSmS/P9ABiXlnW HlyFPzazQSdLPp5GfV87o6QtYqwYivRviCgM6sJAv6aGZon2aqIdKjoBWlju6k7anG/U=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1noySI-00076R-6i; Thu, 12 May 2022 04:21:32 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#20483: 25.0.50; Customize buffer `Show' for whole option: return previously shown display References: <631e8064-f236-4389-bd63-e39351f3d221@default> X-Now-Playing: Section 25's _The Key of Dreams_: "Hold Me" Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 04:21:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <631e8064-f236-4389-bd63-e39351f3d221@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 1 May 2015 10:56:58 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87y1z71oeu.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Drew Adams writes: > Click #1 again. It should return to the previous state, but button #2 > still says `More' and the rest of the doc string is still hidden. > > IOW, #1 should toggle between hiding (almost) everything [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20483 Cc: 20483@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Drew Adams writes: > Click #1 again. It should return to the previous state, but button #2 > still says `More' and the rest of the doc string is still hidden. > > IOW, #1 should toggle between hiding (almost) everything and returning > to whatever was shown before it was clicked to hide stuff. It's somewhat inconsistent, but is doing DWIM-ing in the way I think people would prefer. 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