From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:12:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20461: 25.0.50; `use-hard-newlines' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 17:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 20461 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 20461@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.143032841919909 (code B ref -1); Wed, 29 Apr 2015 17:27:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2015 17:26:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56645 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YnVlC-0005B3-RX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:26:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58723) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YnVlB-0005Ap-7I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:26:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YnVl4-0002Eh-PY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:26:51 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:49680) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YnVl4-0002Ec-M4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:26:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43977) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YnVl3-0005Ex-Qf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:26:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YnVkz-0002BA-Pn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:26:49 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:50025) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YnVkz-0002B2-IV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:26:45 -0400 Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t3THQiiD002396 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 17:26:45 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t3THQioN013042 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 17:26:44 GMT Received: from abhmp0002.oracle.com (abhmp0002.oracle.com [141.146.116.8]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t3THQi1I013625 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 17:26:44 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <129f4914-4719-44f6-b5ab-9e2d9586a790@default> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:26:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Why is this minor mode not named `use-hard-newlines-mode', to respect the naming convention? Reading the doc for this function doesn't even offer a clue that this is a minor mode and that it is not global. See, for instance, this user's question, which shows that s?he expected the function to act globally. http://stackoverflow.com/q/29949975/729907 In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2015-04-05 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 16eec6fc55dcc05d1d819f18998e84a9580b2521 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --host=3Di686-pc-mingw32 --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs' From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:12:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20461: 25.0.50; `use-hard-newlines' Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 19:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20461 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 20461@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20461-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20461.146204284617522 (code B ref 20461); Sat, 30 Apr 2016 19:01:02 +0000 Received: (at 20461) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2016 19:00:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58405 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awa8E-0004YE-Ai for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 15:00:46 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:59659) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awa8C-0004VZ-A5 for 20461@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 15:00:44 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awa89-0005hc-Dp; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 21:00:43 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <129f4914-4719-44f6-b5ab-9e2d9586a790@default> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 21:00:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <129f4914-4719-44f6-b5ab-9e2d9586a790@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:26:44 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87wpnediqv.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Drew Adams writes: > Why is this minor mode not named `use-hard-newlines-mode', to respect > the naming convention? > > Reading the doc for this function doesn't even offer a clue that this is > a minor mode and that it is not global. > > See, for instance, this user's question, which shows that s?he expected > the function to act globally. > http://stackoverflow.com/q/29949975/729907 I agree. An objections to renaming to -mode and marking the old name as an obsolete alias? (And fixing the doc string.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:12:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20461: 25.0.50; `use-hard-newlines' Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 05:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20461 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 20461@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams Received: via spool by 20461-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20461.157975554827783 (code B ref 20461); Thu, 23 Jan 2020 05:00:02 +0000 Received: (at 20461) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2020 04:59:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51590 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iuUaB-0007E3-Np for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 23:59:07 -0500 Received: from ted.gofardesign.uk ([67.225.143.91]:36252) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iuUaA-0007Dc-Nw for 20461@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 23:59:07 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=0eiYxaKtk0YUoVOZRKst6VKAiodF4gwUHv1fhjqn3sE=; b=PbisYh14+3T/7OSNxn9Bef9CdS RM0HG2DFoBUTdzMJJctb/E9vrCDSUYVk+00nEAgh/pOJZ2upzy9cNeN5Xa6czrpOcBWLsJLksghAB 3ItR328unKJOz2EwfJu+VbSOeTNkdJ6dcBI9Jz8+014Yh0c/EFTlNXHs8S7/zO+ogWr+3aPGqKLN5 +SfXioDwPr6ECSsPGObZU59ePdObDgUw4G2tzhY/dE3B3iaqEsejWlJy5t+BqgybGiChVTdaAjsYK 2IAML/R5/MurIDqY58iOxzgrBBoHm3u7gkfUq5pwN1CV934OyB0ZuULJU+dyWHWi82Dl6SLH0+XKa HuiMvZbg==; Received: from h-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:45848 helo=localhost) by ted.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iuUa1-0016k5-Bn; Wed, 22 Jan 2020 23:58:57 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87wpnediqv.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 30 Apr 2016 21:00:40 +0200") References: <129f4914-4719-44f6-b5ab-9e2d9586a790@default> <87wpnediqv.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 05:58:54 +0100 Message-ID: <87h80mix9t.fsf@marxist.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ted.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ted.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: ted.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Drew Adams writes: > >> Why is this minor mode not named `use-hard-newlines-mode', to respect >> the naming convention? >> >> Reading the doc for this function doesn't even offer a clue that this is >> a minor mode and that it is not global. >> >> See, for instance, this user's question, which shows that s?he expected >> the function to act globally. >> http://stackoverflow.com/q/29949975/729907 > > I agree. An objections to renaming to -mode and marking the old name as > an obsolete alias? (And fixing the doc string.) I agree as well. No protests within 4+ years could be taken as a sign that no one minds the change. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:12:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20461: 25.0.50; `use-hard-newlines' Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 12:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20461 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Kangas Cc: 20461@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams Received: via spool by 20461-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20461.157978245521521 (code B ref 20461); Thu, 23 Jan 2020 12:28:01 +0000 Received: (at 20461) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2020 12:27:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51914 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iubaA-0005b3-O1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 07:27:35 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:48204) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iubaA-0005ar-0B for 20461@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 07:27:34 -0500 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iuba1-0004W0-AY; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:27:27 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <129f4914-4719-44f6-b5ab-9e2d9586a790@default> <87wpnediqv.fsf@gnus.org> <87h80mix9t.fsf@marxist.se> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:27:24 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87h80mix9t.fsf@marxist.se> (Stefan Kangas's message of "Thu, 23 Jan 2020 05:58:54 +0100") Message-ID: <875zh2s6hf.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Kangas writes: >> I agree. An objections to renaming to -mode and marking the old name as >> an obsolete alias? (And fixing the doc string.) > > I agree as well. No protests within 4+ years could be taken as a sign [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: ingebrigtsen.no] -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Kangas writes: >> I agree. An objections to renaming to -mode and marking the old name as >> an obsolete alias? (And fixing the doc string.) > > I agree as well. No protests within 4+ years could be taken as a sign > that no one minds the change. I had another peek at this, and use-hard-newlines is slightly unusual in that many functions bind the use-hard-newlines (and use it), like: (defun fill-flowed-encode (&optional buffer) [...] (when use-hard-newlines So we'd presumably need to rename the variable, too, and then it just seems like it's not worth it, really. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:12:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20461: 25.0.50; `use-hard-newlines' Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 12:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20461 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 20461@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams Received: via spool by 20461-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20461.157978416231702 (code B ref 20461); Thu, 23 Jan 2020 12:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 20461) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2020 12:56:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51932 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iuc1i-0008FG-3j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 07:56:02 -0500 Received: from ted.gofardesign.uk ([67.225.143.91]:47230) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iuc1g-0008En-B6 for 20461@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 07:56:01 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ZGqF5DcjJpuQYAVex6dOjGbd7uWuEHvosqdUssoNoLk=; b=qlJmJWJP07gWZ2Ki+istCeL+6Y iiDeBdRFAcyB7KMsmZkZZG9g0iJETcbfRirz3N530+4YjKkkpfWRAcYlKuVpb1wg5b/wKF5bngTHT e/rmTRogh2GMKuU+krfDwbAatdTA8z7uxe3A9zIZ1g9dgl1Jsd2UTbUflmkvnWgGaSz8i0+v9O5h7 F8iOGBZZhBHxuPE+nP975zS3TdyvUkpJOUc8rxq496x/P/OWvGGFWX29BFzluKOreMWOdlCrh4JLX Lv1PnTGS5X/K3/h9cFzhE4nQv73NNFjrc4dusR9HkvYSrOAqP8RzgjX7N+alYfBxGeLFsZYdTAHB0 GYy9ySEw==; Received: from h-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:37494 helo=localhost) by ted.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iuc1Y-0010V7-Ly; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 07:55:52 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <875zh2s6hf.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:27:24 +0100") References: <129f4914-4719-44f6-b5ab-9e2d9586a790@default> <87wpnediqv.fsf@gnus.org> <87h80mix9t.fsf@marxist.se> <875zh2s6hf.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:55:50 +0100 Message-ID: <871rrqib6x.fsf@marxist.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ted.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ted.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: ted.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > So we'd presumably need to rename the variable, too, and then it just > seems like it's not worth it, really. I see, yes then it might be better to just leave it alone. I guess the doc string still need fixing to say it only affects the current buffer though. That is perhaps important enough to go on the first line, but I couldn't come up with a way to do that which doesn't go over the 67 character limit. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:12:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20461: 25.0.50; `use-hard-newlines' Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20461 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Kangas Cc: 20461@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams Received: via spool by 20461-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20461.157978443432230 (code B ref 20461); Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:01:02 +0000 Received: (at 20461) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2020 13:00:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51947 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iuc66-0008Nm-9j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 08:00:34 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:48608) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iuc64-0008NW-Oq for 20461@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 08:00:33 -0500 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iuc5s-0004tP-1M; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 14:00:26 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <129f4914-4719-44f6-b5ab-9e2d9586a790@default> <87wpnediqv.fsf@gnus.org> <87h80mix9t.fsf@marxist.se> <875zh2s6hf.fsf@gnus.org> <871rrqib6x.fsf@marxist.se> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 14:00:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: <871rrqib6x.fsf@marxist.se> (Stefan Kangas's message of "Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:55:50 +0100") Message-ID: <87o8uuqqe4.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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[URIs: marxist.se] -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Kangas writes: > I guess the doc string still need fixing to say it only affects the > current buffer though. That is perhaps important enough to go on the > first line, but I couldn't come up with a way to do that which doesn't > go over the 67 character limit. I changed it to "Toggle between hard and soft newlines in the current buffer". :-) So I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 23 08:00:42 2020 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2020 13:00:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51950 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iuc6E-0008OA-Fy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 08:00:42 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:48622) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iuc6C-0008Nu-M3 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 08:00:40 -0500 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iuc65-0004tZ-44 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 14:00:35 +0100 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 14:00:32 +0100 Message-Id: <87muaeqqdr.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #20461 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 20461 fixed close 20461 27.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 20461 fixed close 20461 27.1 quit From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:12:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20461: 25.0.50; `use-hard-newlines' Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 14:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20461 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Stefan Kangas Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 20461@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20461-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20461.1579791074779 (code B ref 20461); Thu, 23 Jan 2020 14:52:01 +0000 Received: (at 20461) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2020 14:51:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52065 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iudpB-0000CV-RT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 09:51:14 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57600) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iudpA-0000CH-KS for 20461@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 09:51:12 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59264) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iudp5-00016N-6f; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 09:51:07 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3188 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iudp4-0001G8-LM; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 09:51:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 16:51:23 +0200 Message-Id: <83a76etedw.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <871rrqib6x.fsf@marxist.se> (message from Stefan Kangas on Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:55:50 +0100) References: <129f4914-4719-44f6-b5ab-9e2d9586a790@default> <87wpnediqv.fsf@gnus.org> <87h80mix9t.fsf@marxist.se> <875zh2s6hf.fsf@gnus.org> <871rrqib6x.fsf@marxist.se> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:55:50 +0100 > Cc: 20461@debbugs.gnu.org > > I guess the doc string still need fixing to say it only affects the > current buffer though. That is perhaps important enough to go on the > first line, but I couldn't come up with a way to do that which doesn't > go over the 67 character limit. 67-character limit is not a hard limit. If you can do it in less than 79, go for it. From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:12:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20461: 25.0.50; `use-hard-newlines' Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 14:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20461 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Stefan Kangas Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 20461@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20461-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20461.15797915262347 (code B ref 20461); Thu, 23 Jan 2020 14:59:02 +0000 Received: (at 20461) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2020 14:58:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53057 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iudwT-0000bn-Lu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 09:58:45 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:36607) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iudwS-0000ba-54 for 20461@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 09:58:44 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1579791517; bh=qhWRfDRHFTYqUwMMdK5WB5VW7TA6lterTpIydAt/EiE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=a7wyppdGeIhk9UJrpz1r1U3feiFerunFrIADH1fUBihNLKkXy8KBhhAWWoz9SryuS +lLJDsq3156paBcBkwzcI437Tv4FPErV/vu2GJ4z0chgzjcX8vAgn0nvYSNzP7AV0i LDmSP5cw6jiOhaatykNIeLDfXGJtjtSajeJHeXvk= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from strobe-lfs84 ([94.220.126.201]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M2wL0-1itY0X0yL6-003Ljb; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:58:37 +0100 From: Stephen Berman References: <129f4914-4719-44f6-b5ab-9e2d9586a790@default> <87wpnediqv.fsf@gnus.org> <87h80mix9t.fsf@marxist.se> <875zh2s6hf.fsf@gnus.org> <871rrqib6x.fsf@marxist.se> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:58:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: <871rrqib6x.fsf@marxist.se> (Stefan Kangas's message of "Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:55:50 +0100") Message-ID: <87zhee8bj8.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:oDOvlsVztJqpNR9UAaHC+w+VixYIpXHn+T5UwejKFWPLFGSN9/T ahZ80bEYMwfJrJ9V0ctzfln2BAi244JFQLEiRxOBzt0m+F1ZtrCNf/SeH771fZY/Bmsih/o ZAFvwS6AhPwW6ESMMpz5NK9oE1eHOvnghBac/hR1jQTVOe/SJWuMtjEHvPC2Pu9oxagj52y nfqbwI3zgFfbtwUf/9AaA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:E0YvNnrb5pg=:DpjYRlrH689Ow9Sc4M4YUb 3HUFiIGYzt5GXn2vW4UMQ7kRPYM4QIBxUIC8r+t7NhgQMRZyRMQzt4ySDibMbTCN4vjfCC2KN sMfYOdVKy3XFYmhztZKArqp5VjwPpWfP1eUeabxh5f0mF5xyXDHDmNCR/gwaU+h96VcTlEquC CtAcanQx9UMI3hJVA3FJwZnxenvDUKOvMHknUdOxmge353uDcgva96f0QDuh/kc2Suc17CKen +0w+Kw34ljNEnBNNaju7BRaUAiKKicX+hSF2ZcEypMUNGVZ0d6/yg0xv6hpCbvGljp07qWLwo 09Ph/0Zhq5GVaD3y4Egq7lmM3GRnQv8TOeg4ICUYrGHUxh6juiGLKxv9siSVzZTigCeVqbx2M pWO5uuNL6JvIDYuQxSeBQxHLWaNZBsX6wDboGXjKaCXbdA5rTw9V1DGFmbatvZP/fiavYXfR+ /YzuEE+GYx5e03LY4Lo97tuRO7idoSD7uOdYPORdk5W3z0cIt8yqlsZK5UtngETrJ4qWloxMc B1KLxnHWt+6Xs8pZ02c1fvVtcgQ8QWM7b1zpwo246idScxBPiL0OQRX66aJwpNs5/zFDnrmKA iWYK6vTZwl51t7Z80v3Ny1TD7h7qjdzBOfhTZbM0x5Z11bDkvFRYc32vkcUmEx9/a3D1D6zvB FU3A6eZ9S+iuFSeACMDmBNfL/BOcaqA1Rwi/PL0uBCJuGO9cR2p/77C05F/u9lNDL3E724As2 EaB2q4GLX5/5FnzyXDzmi7L33PfMHzviPFvei7bObbXh9m/CX1CP8n6se56vLedJ8/2PM5k8F GBsiAjmArMeUzHXsvVNCtjfmZWpr7P/Aj+YA6uFuRp9ZbRXGikDePL30hAD+TWLU5WsP/9G6N Z5rD1ez5Y4cj424xOWrbUyaJ4mjbd9P+ph9etpYc6tqGZ4n6fUKA1dRBsv0bExw+JgK/t5NUh yTwW1Rtt5FzgwnJy0jD3Zo4MqjTl+n3HQcGFaU0e9CkfgHe7loNZGgRLPesen35aOS2F+Qn0o Fa036dI+NW447+l5SrQ7H3xGLGU8bFU/pIxVfcMrTXnAY0lKGFPIip8jglaBnmR1PxmVU6VmX m1Sv2UrfszW85To1uwzeWQwHMs75o7wtx9R/Ya6N8fx2UiAL3TmlTB9TGc6HVByJmPU/lLfe4 PmfRjl5dSFKh9jXnLTRGUnU2iQ0aekBgf1+upS8vt+SEfjLEuLONXo0RHkPL8rlfESapSbsMs gf+bD3zHo/mxpgq3o X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:55:50 +0100 Stefan Kangas wrote: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> So we'd presumably need to rename the variable, too, and then it just >> seems like it's not worth it, really. > > I see, yes then it might be better to just leave it alone. > > I guess the doc string still need fixing to say it only affects the > current buffer though. That is perhaps important enough to go on the > first line, but I couldn't come up with a way to do that which doesn't > go over the 67 character limit. How about this: Toggle between using hard and soft newlines in the current buffer. Steve Berman From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:12:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20461: 25.0.50; `use-hard-newlines' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 16:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20461 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Stefan Kangas Cc: 20461@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20461-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20461.157979849420851 (code B ref 20461); Thu, 23 Jan 2020 16:55:01 +0000 Received: (at 20461) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2020 16:54:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53109 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iufks-0005QE-EW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 11:54:54 -0500 Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:44030) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iufkq-0005Q2-QR for 20461@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 11:54:53 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id 00NGd5jD047525; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 16:54:47 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2019-08-05; bh=vYBv+nM1sLZ44Q65UcKTRzM/vKFIN42tK5rK9ChwJNY=; b=HVoNQONTVkj+k/6IIz4/JNJtHHFvUmLk5Q60H4lf/9h0unrvemi1a3RNMnddte7Tx4UD 6O4a93iH2jWrG0Na0p8p3GOt3t4v/3H9H1K4dgY86czNkjH/NaskxxfjHaAyFoHGGhIQ rgeZP/CbAve5BWdoRHB96A2URLg9whW5Ab6Oa+9bK6UL9usuKcranAIuvNaHLuo2qW2v 3yjOi0UM5GeruwQQ5LkxW2Ao0D4WywmVJ9UcQnvWmYklIt2tJs5A09Jg+A0YRMK+9oHz kwAXtTHSMVTDJEERJ9RwvSguaTCMv4pReeLuZYvxMSMQ/l6HlCyTuozmBWc/648RUfv+ Zg== Received: from aserp3030.oracle.com (aserp3030.oracle.com [141.146.126.71]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2xkseuur52-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 23 Jan 2020 16:54:46 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id 00NGcM2Q036378; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 16:54:46 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2xpq0wwmre-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 23 Jan 2020 16:54:45 +0000 Received: from abhmp0006.oracle.com (abhmp0006.oracle.com [141.146.116.12]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 00NGsii9012097; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 16:54:44 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 08:54:43 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams References: <129f4914-4719-44f6-b5ab-9e2d9586a790@default> <87wpnediqv.fsf@gnus.org> <87h80mix9t.fsf@marxist.se> <875zh2s6hf.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <875zh2s6hf.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4954.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9509 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=420 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-2001230132 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9509 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=483 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1911140001 definitions=main-2001230132 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > I had another peek at this, and use-hard-newlines is slightly unusual > in that many functions bind the use-hard-newlines (and use it), like: >=20 > (defun fill-flowed-encode (&optional buffer) [...] > (when use-hard-newlines >=20 > So we'd presumably need to rename the variable, too, Yes, of course. That's true of any minor mode. Often people do not use the variable, but they certainly can, in general. > and then it just seems like it's not worth it, really. Why? No reason given. The right thing to do, to respect Emacs convention and not mislead users further, is to fix this. And yes, of course, that means also renaming the variable. This is trivial to fix. From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:12:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20461: 25.0.50; `use-hard-newlines' Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 18:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20461 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Stephen Berman Cc: larsi@gnus.org, stefan@marxist.se, 20461@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20461-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20461.157980402129196 (code B ref 20461); Thu, 23 Jan 2020 18:27:02 +0000 Received: (at 20461) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2020 18:27:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53183 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iuhC1-0007aq-7V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:27:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38354) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iuhC0-0007ae-5q for 20461@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:27:00 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35176) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iuhBu-0004O7-Vm; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:26:55 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4397 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iuhBu-0008Ef-6r; Thu, 23 Jan 2020 13:26:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 20:26:47 +0200 Message-Id: <83wo9irpug.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87zhee8bj8.fsf@gmx.net> (message from Stephen Berman on Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:58:35 +0100) References: <129f4914-4719-44f6-b5ab-9e2d9586a790@default> <87wpnediqv.fsf@gnus.org> <87h80mix9t.fsf@marxist.se> <875zh2s6hf.fsf@gnus.org> <871rrqib6x.fsf@marxist.se> <87zhee8bj8.fsf@gmx.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > From: Stephen Berman > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 15:58:35 +0100 > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 20461@debbugs.gnu.org > > Toggle between using hard and soft newlines in the current buffer. I'd drop "the" for a good measure.