From unknown Wed Aug 20 05:17:11 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#20446 <20446@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#20446 <20446@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: tramp ate my bash history Reply-To: bug#20446 <20446@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2025 12:17:11 +0000 retitle 20446 tramp ate my bash history reassign 20446 emacs submitter 20446 Glenn Morris severity 20446 important thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 27 20:21:52 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2015 00:21:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41791 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YmtHc-0001xU-Hg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:21:52 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:50677 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YmtHa-0001xG-2r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:21:50 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YmtHZ-0003kM-IG; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:21:49 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: tramp ate my bash history X-Spook: AMW insurgency KGB BATF cypherpunk [Hello to all my X-Ran: ?J~_qGLx=UAi&xrj_xIE5_yr(&Qj~E~%E?W*RNCciqXqBKG"MZ&pN%_ User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Package: emacs Version: 25.0.50 Severity: important Current master on RHEL 7.1. ls -l ~/.bash_history -rw-------. 1 gm gm 724950 Apr 27 17:10 /home/gm/.bash_history make -C test/automated tramp-tests ... "Ran 41 tests, 41 results as expected..." ls -l ~/.bash_history -rw-------. 1 gm gm 29 Apr 27 17:11 /home/gm/.bash_history ! This is repeatable. "I told you this would happen..." http://debbugs.gnu.org/19731#56 (Haven't checked if that is actually the cause.) Does not happen with emacs-24. Yes, I have backups. :) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 27 20:23:05 2015 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2015 00:23:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41795 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YmtIn-00021D-1F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:23:05 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:50688 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YmtIk-000213-M3 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:23:02 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YmtIk-0003r2-FB for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:23:02 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:23:02 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 19759 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) block 19759 by 20446 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 31 07:11:45 2015 Received: (at 20446) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2015 11:11:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33920 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz19d-0008IR-Hb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 07:11:45 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:50596) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz19b-0008IE-9l for 20446@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 07:11:43 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.61.54]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MRXzM-1YWJ7301E0-00Sbkl; Sun, 31 May 2015 13:11:37 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#20446: tramp ate my bash history References: <5mlhhdayqq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 13:11:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5mlhhdayqq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:21:49 -0400") Message-ID: <87lhg5huhk.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:M0ZyYxoG1EB8qEH5iWgaWm6uBt5vNhD7mCkIQmqmYGnlurz9EuM gsSOz6fEUP7+/0oShOU8hUXTxPL7BzPyZn6LJbti+7WKS7lfm3p32J0VAdA6M045gMCdgWl 5o0wrvrIC4anDbFmg93VkQKBqcYXku78r9vimZSw+Vg9634GPs+ATZUBWYREN8ntrofCyoV ZVkcHDPdpP7+8fKgckT+g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:kbT217WuIRk=:by9mIYeVRMmwNc28k43U2b yKEPseDiSnNd9x53Q9KbgQYzVW3F0R/TnmB95q6dtDOedMauPiM0ZBOF0OKcDtbjYq/WAPCb9 NVrHyUrnxBJFNaX270R+doRIj9R1zZz6e20akzOR9Wb0PYnCLggMyCk7FKNa5TrwlLGcPNfmH Hw/PueQVLEAQTDiBD5dmCwt0vdtduAjvw3h4Q1JcgERDNDMscQIYli7lfq6/N8Sd2aH1lqu42 DgSUJ76bbLittTMGjWRMeLroE7Xt33AwPdGRVohvYZYu8RYlsQF05g1/nFw/IyvQ1k19NeWsb lS8bCQAh3wllPfhImvIHvuwIoW94b/4/EF5vPhKHwVZtMX2iCCRcCJeL5F3ObovGDKXUo4rXE lns+hJ/o1vTxBi1HBcIIfAhsNPCmD+r4ksvLEozqpwqR/7tqMrbZTLnWnmsHYHO5b6exv5hU/ K86gs2DZGYZ693MwvfKY79Ic5KHzivk2VWS/ouMRnQazi9nM3y4RXfvxq6fsUnhZqvXHgroFc Wl6Y1Q2M7JROwXsidsP0un9jGUgIcjNfeHmz9EUzvaDDNIDqKyarlGm4fK/FyQ3ZsDdTuf2CM xn+SVRMyer6v9xoF9I77EizQ1oaQsaKxU5OTjwT53SjQAe2Q3v4MrfmTYtArtKgGx1mcPkCk8 sZcArEHT8OCbvbXFItNFAu3i0FJHDaCH50lwt+X/8LnW0LH7IJz81xbToYhdZ+b3n3PQ= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20446 Cc: 20446@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Glenn Morris writes: Hi Glenn, > This is repeatable. > > "I told you this would happen..." > http://debbugs.gnu.org/19731#56 > > (Haven't checked if that is actually the cause.) > Does not happen with emacs-24. I have changed again the default value. Tested with remote bash, ksh and zsh; seems to cause no harm. Could you please recheck? Thanks, and best regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 31 14:11:39 2015 Received: (at 20446) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2015 18:11:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35085 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz7hz-0002eC-8h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 14:11:39 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:47357 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz7hw-0002e4-Mh for 20446@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 14:11:36 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz7hv-0006lr-Qu; Sun, 31 May 2015 14:11:35 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Michael Albinus Subject: Re: bug#20446: tramp ate my bash history References: <5mlhhdayqq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87lhg5huhk.fsf@gmx.de> X-Spook: threat LABLINK covert video White House corporate X-Ran: a+cc!bF'y}HG%kS{b8MsaLy.2Q)mRaH{jlvy X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 14:11:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87lhg5huhk.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Sun, 31 May 2015 13:11:35 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20446 Cc: 20446@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Michael Albinus wrote: > I have changed again the default value. Tested with remote bash, ksh and > zsh; seems to cause no harm. Could you please recheck? Thanks, make check no longer clobbers my .bash_history. (Minor point - would this file be better as .emacs.d/tramp_history? Or maybe it's a pain to check that .emacs.d exists?) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 31 16:32:12 2015 Received: (at 20446-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2015 20:32:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35122 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz9u0-0007mr-5n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 16:32:12 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:58226) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz9ty-0007mf-Fz for 20446-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 16:32:11 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([79.195.22.123]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MKKaI-1YzhbA2wTe-001gAA; Sun, 31 May 2015 22:32:02 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#20446: tramp ate my bash history References: <5mlhhdayqq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87lhg5huhk.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 22:32:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Sun, 31 May 2015 14:11:35 -0400") Message-ID: <87wpzo1oam.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:KiO6AvwNaviRATl7CR9ktFWhFprY4vwe12f+tMIf/8S8naD2l/M Z6dG7Vbwo/4txopUU8yT++3e+twdMtBIdDS/nmj3WiQp9oAjTGOQjCnb6u7l3E12LlAAOFo pUxuuLotSr1Pyqbi9APu78DLp6id3l7uB5diDdz/+sc8mQU7jt1BPBE9xnBy0+duLMP8g5w 6RJlg0qIYqjYEOg03zgow== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:zAyy4Lnwfpo=:QlvuA2PCf8Ga9MgsIB9lfw j3AmM7Vdw4YiWi8sC0cyRRU7cPfD1KF9Nwy9L3411N6VXLGL10xdnegumoIiqWfFXh3I8CSu6 HWmWLAn3JeoYtq3wjbe9EtAiaJdVlNqLsuPDuxuEV4SxSdMkkuO6pXV2H2z+Rg1X0tb6jeeYq my066ZON/hxKWZIUZkHJnGXpCsnLm+CR/4ezIky8xohpYJdjGh/ZJmBlZdwi86thsPPX01+1t +RgKxKnnVaoRH402bzE+tGiUMW5rJwRHUhPkMRaV+oQb/Guzadd/BwgOEO5c3tAevQZdkpJ80 MirOAO/YFG2PrhxSTtkYTwqtQzRFk/SbVC1VvOY1mv6AEsxpoXItpHeAJoJbL5ajBExZaW4Jk n77shOBznz90ScgH7UfIWrPDXcQNeLQL1vsUYjBA4he0owQJVevUzVoPtG0cFNFBw1L3aVCOd shJNDlXT/5SNELol4coT2186+qr37HrJ88f0acgsxUA/iXRzipy0Jfb7zC98c71jIKDDb9lRY AK7HdPuZP13gcmiStI0aAmS/MSIuYfgdI5aCApKD+ybvh8YK70JTPXxGY5tB/MdGb6pQ4tucs 4aAqEwdrDA6V8JAIpYhaTxCB5yVxoekGq9hxtzoGGtT/Ia8IKG+rURp0PkeIJBrDdrZCNj6jM ik6tPauD/04/iGv2Hp3rmsvNFTc08bmARpETdzQN/z6rdYGN5K2O1sdjLyQvoCtqIuts= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20446-done Cc: 20446-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Version: 25.1 Glenn Morris writes: >> I have changed again the default value. Tested with remote bash, ksh and >> zsh; seems to cause no harm. Could you please recheck? > > Thanks, make check no longer clobbers my .bash_history. Thanks, for checking, I'm closing the bug. > (Minor point - would this file be better as .emacs.d/tramp_history? > Or maybe it's a pain to check that .emacs.d exists?) It's about the remote host. Honestly, my router in the basement doesn't know Emacs. And there's no .emacs.d/ directory. Best regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 01 10:04:12 2015 Received: (at 20446) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jun 2015 14:04:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36210 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YzQK4-0000L9-DT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 10:04:12 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:44544) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YzQK2-0000Ku-JH for 20446@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 10:04:10 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0ArEwA731xV/3K9xEVcgxCEAoVVuzcJh0sEAgKBPDkUAQEBAQEBAYEKQQWDXQEBAwFWIwULCzQSFBgNiFsIzyMBAQEBAQUBAQEBHos6hQUHFoQXBbM/gUUjhBQigngBAQE X-IPAS-Result: A0ArEwA731xV/3K9xEVcgxCEAoVVuzcJh0sEAgKBPDkUAQEBAQEBAYEKQQWDXQEBAwFWIwULCzQSFBgNiFsIzyMBAQEBAQUBAQEBHos6hQUHFoQXBbM/gUUjhBQigngBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,465,1427774400"; d="scan'208";a="123771838" Received: from 69-196-189-114.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.196.189.114]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 01 Jun 2015 10:04:05 -0400 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A04226618B; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 10:04:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: 20446@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#20446: tramp ate my bash history Message-ID: References: <5mlhhdayqq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87lhg5huhk.fsf@gmx.de> <87wpzo1oam.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 10:04:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wpzo1oam.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Sun, 31 May 2015 22:32:01 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20446 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > It's about the remote host. Honestly, my router in the basement doesn't Poor router, alone in the dark, Stefan From unknown Wed Aug 20 05:17:11 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 11:24:07 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator