From unknown Wed Aug 20 05:15:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20446: tramp ate my bash history Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 00:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 20446 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 20446@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14301805137537 (code B ref -1); Tue, 28 Apr 2015 00:22:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2015 00:21:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41791 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YmtHc-0001xU-Hg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:21:52 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:50677 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YmtHa-0001xG-2r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:21:50 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YmtHZ-0003kM-IG; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:21:49 -0400 From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: AMW insurgency KGB BATF cypherpunk [Hello to all my X-Ran: ?J~_qGLx=UAi&xrj_xIE5_yr(&Qj~E~%E?W*RNCciqXqBKG"MZ&pN%_ User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Package: emacs Version: 25.0.50 Severity: important Current master on RHEL 7.1. ls -l ~/.bash_history -rw-------. 1 gm gm 724950 Apr 27 17:10 /home/gm/.bash_history make -C test/automated tramp-tests ... "Ran 41 tests, 41 results as expected..." ls -l ~/.bash_history -rw-------. 1 gm gm 29 Apr 27 17:11 /home/gm/.bash_history ! This is repeatable. "I told you this would happen..." http://debbugs.gnu.org/19731#56 (Haven't checked if that is actually the cause.) Does not happen with emacs-24. Yes, I have backups. :) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 27 20:23:05 2015 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2015 00:23:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41795 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YmtIn-00021D-1F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:23:05 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:50688 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YmtIk-000213-M3 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:23:02 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YmtIk-0003r2-FB for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:23:02 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:23:02 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 19759 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) block 19759 by 20446 From unknown Wed Aug 20 05:15:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20446: tramp ate my bash history Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 11:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20446 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: 20446@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20446-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20446.143307070631899 (code B ref 20446); Sun, 31 May 2015 11:12:02 +0000 Received: (at 20446) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2015 11:11:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33920 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz19d-0008IR-Hb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 07:11:45 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:50596) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz19b-0008IE-9l for 20446@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 07:11:43 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.61.54]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MRXzM-1YWJ7301E0-00Sbkl; Sun, 31 May 2015 13:11:37 +0200 From: Michael Albinus References: <5mlhhdayqq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 13:11:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5mlhhdayqq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:21:49 -0400") Message-ID: <87lhg5huhk.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:M0ZyYxoG1EB8qEH5iWgaWm6uBt5vNhD7mCkIQmqmYGnlurz9EuM gsSOz6fEUP7+/0oShOU8hUXTxPL7BzPyZn6LJbti+7WKS7lfm3p32J0VAdA6M045gMCdgWl 5o0wrvrIC4anDbFmg93VkQKBqcYXku78r9vimZSw+Vg9634GPs+ATZUBWYREN8ntrofCyoV ZVkcHDPdpP7+8fKgckT+g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:kbT217WuIRk=:by9mIYeVRMmwNc28k43U2b yKEPseDiSnNd9x53Q9KbgQYzVW3F0R/TnmB95q6dtDOedMauPiM0ZBOF0OKcDtbjYq/WAPCb9 NVrHyUrnxBJFNaX270R+doRIj9R1zZz6e20akzOR9Wb0PYnCLggMyCk7FKNa5TrwlLGcPNfmH Hw/PueQVLEAQTDiBD5dmCwt0vdtduAjvw3h4Q1JcgERDNDMscQIYli7lfq6/N8Sd2aH1lqu42 DgSUJ76bbLittTMGjWRMeLroE7Xt33AwPdGRVohvYZYu8RYlsQF05g1/nFw/IyvQ1k19NeWsb lS8bCQAh3wllPfhImvIHvuwIoW94b/4/EF5vPhKHwVZtMX2iCCRcCJeL5F3ObovGDKXUo4rXE lns+hJ/o1vTxBi1HBcIIfAhsNPCmD+r4ksvLEozqpwqR/7tqMrbZTLnWnmsHYHO5b6exv5hU/ K86gs2DZGYZ693MwvfKY79Ic5KHzivk2VWS/ouMRnQazi9nM3y4RXfvxq6fsUnhZqvXHgroFc Wl6Y1Q2M7JROwXsidsP0un9jGUgIcjNfeHmz9EUzvaDDNIDqKyarlGm4fK/FyQ3ZsDdTuf2CM xn+SVRMyer6v9xoF9I77EizQ1oaQsaKxU5OTjwT53SjQAe2Q3v4MrfmTYtArtKgGx1mcPkCk8 sZcArEHT8OCbvbXFItNFAu3i0FJHDaCH50lwt+X/8LnW0LH7IJz81xbToYhdZ+b3n3PQ= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Glenn Morris writes: Hi Glenn, > This is repeatable. > > "I told you this would happen..." > http://debbugs.gnu.org/19731#56 > > (Haven't checked if that is actually the cause.) > Does not happen with emacs-24. I have changed again the default value. Tested with remote bash, ksh and zsh; seems to cause no harm. Could you please recheck? Thanks, and best regards, Michael. From unknown Wed Aug 20 05:15:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20446: tramp ate my bash history Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 18:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20446 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Albinus Cc: 20446@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20446-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20446.143309590010185 (code B ref 20446); Sun, 31 May 2015 18:12:02 +0000 Received: (at 20446) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2015 18:11:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35085 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz7hz-0002eC-8h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 14:11:39 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:47357 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz7hw-0002e4-Mh for 20446@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 14:11:36 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz7hv-0006lr-Qu; Sun, 31 May 2015 14:11:35 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <5mlhhdayqq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87lhg5huhk.fsf@gmx.de> X-Spook: threat LABLINK covert video White House corporate X-Ran: a+cc!bF'y}HG%kS{b8MsaLy.2Q)mRaH{jlvy X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 14:11:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87lhg5huhk.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Sun, 31 May 2015 13:11:35 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Michael Albinus wrote: > I have changed again the default value. Tested with remote bash, ksh and > zsh; seems to cause no harm. Could you please recheck? Thanks, make check no longer clobbers my .bash_history. (Minor point - would this file be better as .emacs.d/tramp_history? Or maybe it's a pain to check that .emacs.d exists?) From unknown Wed Aug 20 05:15:43 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.503 (Entity 5.503) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Glenn Morris Subject: bug#20446: closed (Re: bug#20446: tramp ate my bash history) Message-ID: References: <87wpzo1oam.fsf@gmx.de> <5mlhhdayqq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 20446 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 20446@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 20:33:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1433104383-30006-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1433104383-30006-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #20446: tramp ate my bash history which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 20446@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 20446: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D20446 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1433104383-30006-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 20446-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2015 20:32:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35122 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz9u0-0007mr-5n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 16:32:12 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:58226) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz9ty-0007mf-Fz for 20446-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 16:32:11 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([79.195.22.123]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MKKaI-1YzhbA2wTe-001gAA; Sun, 31 May 2015 22:32:02 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#20446: tramp ate my bash history References: <5mlhhdayqq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87lhg5huhk.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 22:32:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Sun, 31 May 2015 14:11:35 -0400") Message-ID: <87wpzo1oam.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:KiO6AvwNaviRATl7CR9ktFWhFprY4vwe12f+tMIf/8S8naD2l/M Z6dG7Vbwo/4txopUU8yT++3e+twdMtBIdDS/nmj3WiQp9oAjTGOQjCnb6u7l3E12LlAAOFo pUxuuLotSr1Pyqbi9APu78DLp6id3l7uB5diDdz/+sc8mQU7jt1BPBE9xnBy0+duLMP8g5w 6RJlg0qIYqjYEOg03zgow== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:zAyy4Lnwfpo=:QlvuA2PCf8Ga9MgsIB9lfw j3AmM7Vdw4YiWi8sC0cyRRU7cPfD1KF9Nwy9L3411N6VXLGL10xdnegumoIiqWfFXh3I8CSu6 HWmWLAn3JeoYtq3wjbe9EtAiaJdVlNqLsuPDuxuEV4SxSdMkkuO6pXV2H2z+Rg1X0tb6jeeYq my066ZON/hxKWZIUZkHJnGXpCsnLm+CR/4ezIky8xohpYJdjGh/ZJmBlZdwi86thsPPX01+1t +RgKxKnnVaoRH402bzE+tGiUMW5rJwRHUhPkMRaV+oQb/Guzadd/BwgOEO5c3tAevQZdkpJ80 MirOAO/YFG2PrhxSTtkYTwqtQzRFk/SbVC1VvOY1mv6AEsxpoXItpHeAJoJbL5ajBExZaW4Jk n77shOBznz90ScgH7UfIWrPDXcQNeLQL1vsUYjBA4he0owQJVevUzVoPtG0cFNFBw1L3aVCOd shJNDlXT/5SNELol4coT2186+qr37HrJ88f0acgsxUA/iXRzipy0Jfb7zC98c71jIKDDb9lRY AK7HdPuZP13gcmiStI0aAmS/MSIuYfgdI5aCApKD+ybvh8YK70JTPXxGY5tB/MdGb6pQ4tucs 4aAqEwdrDA6V8JAIpYhaTxCB5yVxoekGq9hxtzoGGtT/Ia8IKG+rURp0PkeIJBrDdrZCNj6jM ik6tPauD/04/iGv2Hp3rmsvNFTc08bmARpETdzQN/z6rdYGN5K2O1sdjLyQvoCtqIuts= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20446-done Cc: 20446-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Version: 25.1 Glenn Morris writes: >> I have changed again the default value. Tested with remote bash, ksh and >> zsh; seems to cause no harm. Could you please recheck? > > Thanks, make check no longer clobbers my .bash_history. Thanks, for checking, I'm closing the bug. > (Minor point - would this file be better as .emacs.d/tramp_history? > Or maybe it's a pain to check that .emacs.d exists?) It's about the remote host. Honestly, my router in the basement doesn't know Emacs. And there's no .emacs.d/ directory. Best regards, Michael. ------------=_1433104383-30006-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2015 00:21:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41791 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YmtHc-0001xU-Hg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:21:52 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:50677 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YmtHa-0001xG-2r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:21:50 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YmtHZ-0003kM-IG; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:21:49 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: tramp ate my bash history X-Spook: AMW insurgency KGB BATF cypherpunk [Hello to all my X-Ran: ?J~_qGLx=UAi&xrj_xIE5_yr(&Qj~E~%E?W*RNCciqXqBKG"MZ&pN%_ User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Package: emacs Version: 25.0.50 Severity: important Current master on RHEL 7.1. ls -l ~/.bash_history -rw-------. 1 gm gm 724950 Apr 27 17:10 /home/gm/.bash_history make -C test/automated tramp-tests ... "Ran 41 tests, 41 results as expected..." ls -l ~/.bash_history -rw-------. 1 gm gm 29 Apr 27 17:11 /home/gm/.bash_history ! This is repeatable. "I told you this would happen..." http://debbugs.gnu.org/19731#56 (Haven't checked if that is actually the cause.) Does not happen with emacs-24. Yes, I have backups. :) ------------=_1433104383-30006-1-- From unknown Wed Aug 20 05:15:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20446: tramp ate my bash history Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 14:05:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20446 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 20446@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: rgm@gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de Received: via spool by 20446-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20446.14331674521317 (code B ref 20446); Mon, 01 Jun 2015 14:05:03 +0000 Received: (at 20446) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jun 2015 14:04:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36210 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YzQK4-0000L9-DT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 10:04:12 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:44544) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YzQK2-0000Ku-JH for 20446@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 10:04:10 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0ArEwA731xV/3K9xEVcgxCEAoVVuzcJh0sEAgKBPDkUAQEBAQEBAYEKQQWDXQEBAwFWIwULCzQSFBgNiFsIzyMBAQEBAQUBAQEBHos6hQUHFoQXBbM/gUUjhBQigngBAQE X-IPAS-Result: A0ArEwA731xV/3K9xEVcgxCEAoVVuzcJh0sEAgKBPDkUAQEBAQEBAYEKQQWDXQEBAwFWIwULCzQSFBgNiFsIzyMBAQEBAQUBAQEBHos6hQUHFoQXBbM/gUUjhBQigngBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,465,1427774400"; d="scan'208";a="123771838" Received: from 69-196-189-114.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.196.189.114]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 01 Jun 2015 10:04:05 -0400 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A04226618B; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 10:04:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <5mlhhdayqq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87lhg5huhk.fsf@gmx.de> <87wpzo1oam.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 10:04:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wpzo1oam.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Sun, 31 May 2015 22:32:01 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > It's about the remote host. Honestly, my router in the basement doesn't Poor router, alone in the dark, Stefan