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24.5; Auto revert mode does not work

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From: Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com>
To: "bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 24.5; Auto revert mode does not work
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 18:18:12 +0000

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I have setup emacs so that I can run multiple versions simultaneously.

- I opened the same file (somefile.txt) simultaneously in an emacs 24.5
instance and an emacs 24.4 instance (both with -Q option)
- Did M-x global-auto-revert-mode in both.
- From terminal when I echoed some string (echo 1234 >> somefile.txt) to
that file

But only the emacs 24.4 buffer auto-reverted.

I verified that the same bug is present in the emacs master branch too
(emacs 25.0.50.2 last built on 04/24).

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From: Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com>
To: 20441 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#20441: 24.5; Auto revert mode does not work
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 20:48:17 +0000

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After doing `M-x global-auto-revert-mode` in an emacs -Q session, if I eval
`(setq auto-revert-use-notify nil)`, auto revert starts working as before
(in emacs 24.4).

(Thanks to this comment on emacs.SE:
http://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/10966/global-auto-revert-mode-doesnt-seem-to-work#comment17031_10966
)

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From: Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com>
To: 20441 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#20441: 24.5; Auto revert mode does not work
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 21:01:19 +0000

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Some more info,

When I do `C-h v auto-revert-use-notify` in that file buffer in emacs 24.4,
I get

auto-revert-use-notify is a variable defined in `autorevert.el'.
Its value is nil
Original value was t
Local in buffer abcd.txt; global value is t

But in emacs 24.5, the same `C-h v` shows

auto-revert-use-notify is a variable defined in `autorevert.el'.
Its value is t

It's unclear to me what's changing the local value of
`auto-revert-use-notify` to `nil` in an emacs -Q session on emacs 24.4. And
as the effective value of that var in that buffer is nil, auto reverting
works in emacs 24.4 right away without having to manually change the value
of that var to nil.


On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 4:48 PM Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> After doing `M-x global-auto-revert-mode` in an emacs -Q session, if I
> eval `(setq auto-revert-use-notify nil)`, auto revert starts working as
> before (in emacs 24.4).
>
> (Thanks to this comment on emacs.SE:
> http://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/10966/global-auto-revert-mode-doesnt-seem-to-work#comment17031_10966
> )
>

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Message #16 received at 20441 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 20441 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#20441: 24.5; Auto revert mode does not work
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:26:17 +0200

Hi,

first of all, it might be interesting to know whether file notifications
do work at all on your system. What is the value of `file-notify--library'?
I suppose it is 'gfilenotify.

Could you, please, perform the following forms then:

(require 'filenotify)
(defun my-notify-callback (event)
  (message "Event %S" event))
(file-notify-add-watch
  "/tmp" '(change attribute-change) 'my-notify-callback)
(write-region "foo" nil "/tmp/foo")
(write-region "bla" nil "/tmp/foo")
(set-file-modes "/tmp/foo" (default-file-modes))

Tell, whether you see related messages in the *Messages* buffer.

Best regards, Michael.

Message #19 received at 20441 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: 20441 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#20441: 24.5; Auto revert mode does not work
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 19:47:58 +0000

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Thanks for the pointer Michael.

I am puzzled. Of course filenotify does not work for me (it used to work; I
wrote this elisp snippet that used this feature:
http://emacs.stackexchange.com/a/2566/115).

The value of `file-notify--library` is `'gfilenotify` but the feature
doesn't work for me. Any pointers?

The test code evalling did not trigger the `my-notify-callback` function
and so no "Event .." messages in my *Messages* buffer.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:26 PM Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> first of all, it might be interesting to know whether file notifications
> do work at all on your system. What is the value of `file-notify--library'?
> I suppose it is 'gfilenotify.
>
> Could you, please, perform the following forms then:
>
> (require 'filenotify)
> (defun my-notify-callback (event)
>   (message "Event %S" event))
> (file-notify-add-watch
>   "/tmp" '(change attribute-change) 'my-notify-callback)
> (write-region "foo" nil "/tmp/foo")
> (write-region "bla" nil "/tmp/foo")
> (set-file-modes "/tmp/foo" (default-file-modes))
>
> Tell, whether you see related messages in the *Messages* buffer.
>
> Best regards, Michael.
>

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Message #22 received at 20441 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: 20441 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#20441: 24.5; Auto revert mode does not work
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 20:54:26 +0000

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When I eval

(file-notify-add-watch
 "/tmp/foo" '(change attribute-change) 'my-notify-callback)

I see something like

38390812 (#o222346034, #x249cc1c)

in the *Messages* buffer and even the `file-notify-descriptors` hash is
updated.

But the callback fn is never executed.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:47 PM Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the pointer Michael.
>
> I am puzzled. Of course filenotify does not work for me (it used to work;
> I wrote this elisp snippet that used this feature:
> http://emacs.stackexchange.com/a/2566/115).
>
> The value of `file-notify--library` is `'gfilenotify` but the feature
> doesn't work for me. Any pointers?
>
> The test code evalling did not trigger the `my-notify-callback` function
> and so no "Event .." messages in my *Messages* buffer.
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:26 PM Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> first of all, it might be interesting to know whether file notifications
>> do work at all on your system. What is the value of
>> `file-notify--library'?
>> I suppose it is 'gfilenotify.
>>
>> Could you, please, perform the following forms then:
>>
>> (require 'filenotify)
>> (defun my-notify-callback (event)
>>   (message "Event %S" event))
>> (file-notify-add-watch
>>   "/tmp" '(change attribute-change) 'my-notify-callback)
>> (write-region "foo" nil "/tmp/foo")
>> (write-region "bla" nil "/tmp/foo")
>> (set-file-modes "/tmp/foo" (default-file-modes))
>>
>> Tell, whether you see related messages in the *Messages* buffer.
>>
>> Best regards, Michael.
>>
>

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Message #25 received at 20441 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 20441 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#20441: 24.5; Auto revert mode does not work
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 23:43:52 +0200

Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com> writes:

> When I eval 
>
> (file-notify-add-watch
> "/tmp/foo" '(change attribute-change) 'my-notify-callback)
>
> I see something like
>
> 38390812 (#o222346034, #x249cc1c)
>
> in the *Messages* buffer and even the `file-notify-descriptors` hash
> is updated.
>
> But the callback fn is never executed.

Which Linux distribution are you using? Which glib version?

What are the configure options of your Emacs build? Pls show src/config.h.

Best regards, Michael.

Message #28 received at 20441 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: 20441 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#20441: 24.5; Auto revert mode does not work
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 00:08:16 +0000

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Thanks. glib looks like the culprit.

When filenotify used to work, I had glib 2.40.00 installed on RHEL 5.10.

Then I upgraded to glib 2.44.00 last week (also rebuilt emacs after that)
in efforts to fix a frame issue I am still facing (
http://emacs.stackexchange.com/q/10745/115 ). The upgrade didn't fix that
issue and it seemed that it didn't break anything so I stayed at that
version.

But looks that that broke the gfilenotify functionality.

Now, I did make uninstall on glib 2.44.00 and reinstalled glib 2.40.00 and
rebuilt latest emacs from master. But that did not fix the gfilenotify
issue. I don't know what else I can look into.

Here is the requested src/config.h after reverting back to glib 2.40.00 and
rebuilding emacs from master:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10985/config.h

Thanks for the help!

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 5:43 PM Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
wrote:

> Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> > When I eval
> >
> > (file-notify-add-watch
> > "/tmp/foo" '(change attribute-change) 'my-notify-callback)
> >
> > I see something like
> >
> > 38390812 (#o222346034, #x249cc1c)
> >
> > in the *Messages* buffer and even the `file-notify-descriptors` hash
> > is updated.
> >
> > But the callback fn is never executed.
>
> Which Linux distribution are you using? Which glib version?
>
> What are the configure options of your Emacs build? Pls show src/config.h.
>
> Best regards, Michael.
>

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Message #31 received at 20441 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: 20441 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#20441: 24.5; Auto revert mode does not work
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 00:39:47 +0000

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I just rebuilt emacs-24.4 tag from git while glib 2.40.00 is installed. But
the same results; gfilenotify doesn't work this time. The last time it
worked, it was the same RHEL 5.10, glib 2.40.00 and emacs 24.4. Here is the
config.h (renamed) created for the 24.4 build:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10985/config-emacs-24.4.h

Is there anything else that gfilenotify depends on? Can I test something
from the terminal to verify glib installation that would make gfilenotify
work?

Thanks!

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:08 PM Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks. glib looks like the culprit.
>
> When filenotify used to work, I had glib 2.40.00 installed on RHEL 5.10.
>
> Then I upgraded to glib 2.44.00 last week (also rebuilt emacs after that)
> in efforts to fix a frame issue I am still facing (
> http://emacs.stackexchange.com/q/10745/115 ). The upgrade didn't fix that
> issue and it seemed that it didn't break anything so I stayed at that
> version.
>
> But looks that that broke the gfilenotify functionality.
>
> Now, I did make uninstall on glib 2.44.00 and reinstalled glib 2.40.00 and
> rebuilt latest emacs from master. But that did not fix the gfilenotify
> issue. I don't know what else I can look into.
>
> Here is the requested src/config.h after reverting back to glib 2.40.00
> and rebuilding emacs from master:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10985/config.h
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 5:43 PM Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > When I eval
>> >
>> > (file-notify-add-watch
>> > "/tmp/foo" '(change attribute-change) 'my-notify-callback)
>> >
>> > I see something like
>> >
>> > 38390812 (#o222346034, #x249cc1c)
>> >
>> > in the *Messages* buffer and even the `file-notify-descriptors` hash
>> > is updated.
>> >
>> > But the callback fn is never executed.
>>
>> Which Linux distribution are you using? Which glib version?
>>
>> What are the configure options of your Emacs build? Pls show src/config.h.
>>
>> Best regards, Michael.
>>
>

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Message #34 received at 20441 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: 20441 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#20441: 24.5; Auto revert mode does not work
Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 14:11:22 +0000

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It got fixed but I can't explain why this fixed it.

I usually work on a headless machine, and am always working on a VNC server.
I randomly just killed the existing server and started a new one on the
same machine (nothing rebuilt since that last email) and now gfilenotify
started working again!

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:39 PM Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> I just rebuilt emacs-24.4 tag from git while glib 2.40.00 is installed.
> But the same results; gfilenotify doesn't work this time. The last time it
> worked, it was the same RHEL 5.10, glib 2.40.00 and emacs 24.4. Here is the
> config.h (renamed) created for the 24.4 build:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10985/config-emacs-24.4.h
>
> Is there anything else that gfilenotify depends on? Can I test something
> from the terminal to verify glib installation that would make gfilenotify
> work?
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:08 PM Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks. glib looks like the culprit.
>>
>> When filenotify used to work, I had glib 2.40.00 installed on RHEL 5.10.
>>
>> Then I upgraded to glib 2.44.00 last week (also rebuilt emacs after that)
>> in efforts to fix a frame issue I am still facing (
>> http://emacs.stackexchange.com/q/10745/115 ). The upgrade didn't fix
>> that issue and it seemed that it didn't break anything so I stayed at that
>> version.
>>
>> But looks that that broke the gfilenotify functionality.
>>
>> Now, I did make uninstall on glib 2.44.00 and reinstalled glib 2.40.00
>> and rebuilt latest emacs from master. But that did not fix the gfilenotify
>> issue. I don't know what else I can look into.
>>
>> Here is the requested src/config.h after reverting back to glib 2.40.00
>> and rebuilding emacs from master:
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10985/config.h
>>
>> Thanks for the help!
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 5:43 PM Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>> > When I eval
>>> >
>>> > (file-notify-add-watch
>>> > "/tmp/foo" '(change attribute-change) 'my-notify-callback)
>>> >
>>> > I see something like
>>> >
>>> > 38390812 (#o222346034, #x249cc1c)
>>> >
>>> > in the *Messages* buffer and even the `file-notify-descriptors` hash
>>> > is updated.
>>> >
>>> > But the callback fn is never executed.
>>>
>>> Which Linux distribution are you using? Which glib version?
>>>
>>> What are the configure options of your Emacs build? Pls show
>>> src/config.h.
>>>
>>> Best regards, Michael.
>>>
>>

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Message #37 received at 20441 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 20441 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#20441: 24.5; Auto revert mode does not work
Date: Fri, 01 May 2015 18:33:13 +0200

Kaushal <kaushal.modi <at> gmail.com> writes:

> I usually work on a headless machine, and am always working on a VNC
> server.
> I randomly just killed the existing server and started a new one on
> the same machine (nothing rebuilt since that last email) and now
> gfilenotify started working again!

Thanks for the update. Like you, I cannot explain what happened. But
this seems to be a problem of glib, indeed.

I have checked meanwhile the config.h files you have sent, they look
normal.

I'm closing this bug report. Feel free to reopen, if the problem happens
again.

Best regards, Michael.

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