From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 20 17:56:26 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2015 21:56:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33939 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YkJg2-0002qK-54 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:56:26 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:60750 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YkJg0-0002qD-Eh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:56:24 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkJg0-0003ay-1T; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:56:24 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: A way to communicate announcements to developers X-Spook: nitrate satellite imagery Mahmoud Ahmadinejad X-Ran: 6s|t$e[)lb User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Package: emacs Severity: wishlist Version: 24.5 (Bug report to remind about http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-12/msg00851.html) Please create a mechanism to communicate important announcements (feature freezes, etc) to emacs developers. No-one should have to read (all of) emacs-devel, it's too noisy. And the info-gnu-emacs list is not appropriate for this IMO. FWIW, here's what I would do. It'd only take a few mins to set up: 1. Go to https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/admin/emacs-devel/topics 2. Enable topic filter. 3. Add topic name "emacs-announce"; regexp "emacs-announce"; description "announcements all Emacs developers should read". (Using just "announce" may lead to false positives?) 4. Document that developers should subscribe to emacs-devel and at least subscribe to the "emacs-announce" topic. Whether or not they also choose to "receive messages that do not match any topic filter" is up to the individual. 5. Use "Keywords: emacs-announce" in the header of relevant mails. Better (?) to use keywords: than the subject: header, to avoid all the replies to said subject being sent out as announcements too. If you forget to add it to a message, you or anyone else can just resend it. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 20 21:20:10 2015 Received: (at 20389) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2015 01:20:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34061 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YkMrB-0000rr-Ln for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 21:20:10 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:34638) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YkMr8-0000rI-L1 for 20389@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 21:20:07 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgUFAGvvdVRMCqjW/2dsb2JhbAA3gVOhb4EIgXUBAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiBOiEYxkCQECAQKDPgMdg1MEo2OEWA X-IPAS-Result: AgUFAGvvdVRMCqjW/2dsb2JhbAA3gVOhb4EIgXUBAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiBOiEYxkCQECAQKDPgMdg1MEo2OEWA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.11,557,1422939600"; d="scan'208";a="116937579" Received: from 76-10-168-214.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([76.10.168.214]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 20 Apr 2015 21:20:01 -0400 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 0AE866610A; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 21:20:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#20389: A way to communicate announcements to developers Message-ID: References: Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 21:20:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:56:23 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20389 Cc: 20389@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > 3. Add topic name "emacs-announce"; regexp "emacs-announce"; description > "announcements all Emacs developers should read". > (Using just "announce" may lead to false positives?) I could live with that. But I wonder if using gnu.emacs.announce would be worse or better. I mean, there might some benefit to "announce feature freeze to the world" rather than only to the developers. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 21 12:33:10 2015 Received: (at 20389) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2015 16:33:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35436 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ykb6k-0002WO-05 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 12:33:10 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:56381) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ykb6g-0002Vk-Qe for 20389@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 12:33:08 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NN600M000G8NN00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 20389@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 19:33:00 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NN600M0O0MZEK70@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 19:33:00 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 19:32:56 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#20389: A way to communicate announcements to developers In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Message-id: <83wq154f2f.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20389 Cc: 20389@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Glenn Morris > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:56:23 -0400 > > 1. Go to https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/admin/emacs-devel/topics > > 2. Enable topic filter. > > 3. Add topic name "emacs-announce"; regexp "emacs-announce"; description > "announcements all Emacs developers should read". > (Using just "announce" may lead to false positives?) > > 4. Document that developers should subscribe to emacs-devel and at > least subscribe to the "emacs-announce" topic. Whether or not they also > choose to "receive messages that do not match any topic filter" is up > to the individual. Doesn't enabling the topic filter mean that every subscriber must update their subscription, to choose the topics to which they want to subscribe? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 21 13:22:38 2015 Received: (at 20389) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2015 17:22:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35446 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ykbsc-0004JK-DV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 13:22:38 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:49057) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ykbsa-0004J7-3i for 20389@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 13:22:36 -0400 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3lWWtL6Wkvz3hk0G; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 19:22:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3lWWtL5b2nzvjDH; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 19:22:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KZCeHK4A7QLc; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 19:22:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: 4cs7si2HJH45QaAQ2IYsMPzEAFYMaRJssCNRVNjmRwXyQmd/I1chgI44LVZeLMYr Received: from igel.home (ppp-88-217-117-16.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.117.16]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 19:22:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8ABE32C2D20; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 19:22:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#20389: A way to communicate announcements to developers References: <83wq154f2f.fsf@gnu.org> X-Yow: Did I do an INCORRECT THING?? Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 19:22:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83wq154f2f.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 21 Apr 2015 19:32:56 +0300") Message-ID: <87618p8kh2.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20389 Cc: Glenn Morris , 20389@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Doesn't enabling the topic filter mean that every subscriber must > update their subscription, to choose the topics to which they want to > subscribe? "If you do not select any topics of interest, you will get all the messages sent to the mailing list." Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 21 14:37:32 2015 Received: (at 20389-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2015 18:37:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35476 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ykd36-0000C5-HR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 14:37:32 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:63707) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ykd33-0000Bg-2K for 20389-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 14:37:30 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NN6001005S75Q00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 20389-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 21:37:22 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NN60018X6EA1R30@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 21:37:22 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 21:37:19 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#20389: A way to communicate announcements to developers In-reply-to: <87618p8kh2.fsf@igel.home> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Andreas Schwab Message-id: <83tww949b4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83wq154f2f.fsf@gnu.org> <87618p8kh2.fsf@igel.home> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20389-done Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 20389-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Andreas Schwab > Cc: Glenn Morris , 20389@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 19:22:33 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Doesn't enabling the topic filter mean that every subscriber must > > update their subscription, to choose the topics to which they want to > > subscribe? > > "If you do not select any topics of interest, you will get all the > messages sent to the mailing list." Thanks. I did what Glenn suggested for the mailing list changes. One concern: my reading of the "Topics" page is that the topic matcher scans the _body_ of the message, so the suggestion to use "Keywords: emacs-announce" in the _headers_ of the mail will probably not work. Or maybe I misunderstood what Glenn meant by that. I did nothing about item 4 in Glenn's message. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 22 13:18:45 2015 Received: (at 20389) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Apr 2015 17:18:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36730 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YkyIP-0006jY-Jr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:18:45 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:36169 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YkyIN-0006jP-8O for 20389@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:18:43 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkyIL-0000mI-C6; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:18:41 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#20389: A way to communicate announcements to developers References: X-Spook: Ft. Knox Ron Brown morse satellite imagery bce Hamas X-Ran: $mPp0>3S(}+$MYsj6sXb!I(M1$pr%u|o;yI[]]#tVO!gn}?~RLXF.z/Ci/4oSn]Li-"WW? X-Hue: white X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:18:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 20 Apr 2015 21:20:01 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20389 Cc: 20389@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Stefan Monnier wrote: >> 3. Add topic name "emacs-announce"; regexp "emacs-announce"; description >> "announcements all Emacs developers should read". >> (Using just "announce" may lead to false positives?) > > I could live with that. But I wonder if using gnu.emacs.announce would > be worse or better. I mean, there might some benefit to "announce > feature freeze to the world" rather than only to the developers. But there's other stuff than the (relatively) interesting feature freeze example. There's "hey, we don't use ChangeLogs any more"; "hey, start using 'foo' quotes rather than `blah' quotes"; "hey, remember to do your commit messages like this not like that"; etc. I think almost all announcements will not relevant be for info-gnu-emacs. emacs-devel seems the natural home for such things to me. info-gnu-emacs has 835 subscribers versus 200 committers; don't know what the overlap is. But the main point of this report was to get SOME kind of system. If you want to make and advertise a different system, please do. Eg https://pumprock.net/fsfstatus, s/fsf/emacs ;) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 22 13:21:40 2015 Received: (at 20389) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Apr 2015 17:21:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36737 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YkyLE-0006nx-9v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:21:40 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:36273 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YkyLD-0006nq-2e for 20389@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:21:39 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YkyLB-0001XI-OS; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:21:37 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#20389: A way to communicate announcements to developers References: <83wq154f2f.fsf@gnu.org> <87618p8kh2.fsf@igel.home> <83tww949b4.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: high security mindwar MD4 Echelon MIT-LL Venezuela X-Ran: Ecez{='2V^K,6ee(c}B{@OIbk~.MH'.:x;2YPwhx{l$MNZaL-v~oXJEve2m@- X-Hue: red X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:21:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83tww949b4.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 21 Apr 2015 21:37:19 +0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20389 Cc: Andreas Schwab , 20389@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I did what Glenn suggested for the mailing list changes. One concern: > my reading of the "Topics" page is that the topic matcher scans the > _body_ of the message, so the suggestion to use "Keywords: > emacs-announce" in the _headers_ of the mail will probably not work. Thanks for setting that up. I can assure you that it works on real headers as well as "pseudo" headers in the body. See eg help text at https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/admin/emacs-devel/?VARHELP=topics/topics_bodylines_limit Before this report is closed, the other aspects of it were: 1) Is that a system people are ok with using? It was just my suggestion. 2) If so, get it documented/advertised/used. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 22 13:50:56 2015 Received: (at 20389) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Apr 2015 17:50:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36746 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YkynX-0007U3-LQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:50:55 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:52866) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YkynV-0007Ti-5b for 20389@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:50:54 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NN700900YJCC400@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 20389@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 20:50:46 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NN7009IUYWL1G90@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 20:50:46 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 20:50:45 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#20389: A way to communicate announcements to developers In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Message-id: <83ioco2gsq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83wq154f2f.fsf@gnu.org> <87618p8kh2.fsf@igel.home> <83tww949b4.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20389 Cc: schwab@linux-m68k.org, 20389@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: Andreas Schwab , 20389@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:21:37 -0400 > > 1) Is that a system people are ok with using? It was just my suggestion. I guess we will see. > 2) If so, get it documented/advertised/used. It already is, see CONTRIBUTE. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 22 16:54:11 2015 Received: (at 20389) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Apr 2015 20:54:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36826 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yl1et-0003Jx-9n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 16:54:11 -0400 Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]:57500) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Yl1er-0003Jp-IY for 20389@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 16:54:09 -0400 Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE27585004; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 16:54:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05B61E5B8C; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 16:53:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8F577B40DC; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 16:53:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#20389: A way to communicate announcements to developers Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 16:53:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:18:41 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82, MC_TSTLAST 0.00) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20389 Cc: 20389@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > But there's other stuff than the (relatively) interesting feature freeze > example. There's "hey, we don't use ChangeLogs any more"; > "hey, start using 'foo' quotes rather than `blah' quotes"; > "hey, remember to do your commit messages like this not like that"; > etc. I think almost all announcements will not relevant be for info-gnu-emacs. > emacs-devel seems the natural home for such things to me. Right, makes sense, thanks, Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 24 14:29:32 2015 Received: (at 20389) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Apr 2015 18:29:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38919 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YliM0-0006tq-Kw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 14:29:32 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:52191 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YliLx-0006tg-V7 for 20389@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 14:29:30 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YliLr-0007Fj-BW; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 14:29:23 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#20389: A way to communicate announcements to developers References: <83wq154f2f.fsf@gnu.org> <87618p8kh2.fsf@igel.home> <83tww949b4.fsf@gnu.org> <83ioco2gsq.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: FBI Exon Shell HAMASMOIS NASA LABLINK ammunition Abu X-Ran: -.Zy_|%*QiA>F9dlj`Z[dRKDM*:/>%GtlX2ak_o53,e,b)#=T7*\..A<`~aK (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 22 Apr 2015 20:50:45 +0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20389 Cc: schwab@linux-m68k.org, 20389@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> 2) If so, get it documented/advertised/used. > > It already is, see CONTRIBUTE. Oh thanks, I missed that. From unknown Mon Jun 23 06:02:32 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 11:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator