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X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0P3NgDg007406 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:23:43 -0800 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:54380 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LQvZX-0004Vy-2U for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:22:07 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LQvb2-0000V8-0T for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:23:41 -0500 Received: from acsinet12.oracle.com ([141.146.126.234]:42506) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LQvb1-0000Uf-Ea for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:23:39 -0500 Received: from acsinet13.oracle.com (acsinet13.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by acsinet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n0P3MxIW031906 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:23:00 GMT Received: from acsmt704.oracle.com (acsmt704.oracle.com [141.146.40.82]) by acsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n0P3NXWw009524 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:23:34 GMT Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.5.128.33) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:23:32 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 23.0.60; doc string of dired-read-shell-command Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:23:46 -0800 Message-ID: <001a01c97e9c$55a8e5e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acl+nFUhO+tjPhK5SeSoFluQSwL2tg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Source-IP: acsmt704.oracle.com [141.146.40.82] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A010204.497BDB36.0032:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) Doc string: "Read a dired shell command prompting with PROMPT (using read-string). ARG is the prefix arg and may be used to indicate in the prompt which files are affected. This is an extra function so that you can redefine it." 1. The part about the "prefix arg", at least, doesn't make sense. This is not a command, and there is no reference in the code to `current-prefix-arg'. The sentence is not clear to me, even ignoring "prefix" - *how* does ARG indicate, in the prompt, which files are affected? 2. Argument FILES is not described (should be uppercase). 3. It's not clear (to me) what the last sentence is supposed to mean. In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-01-04 on LENNART-69DE564 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/g/include -fno-crossjumping' From lekktu@gmail.com Sun Jan 25 04:04:50 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Jan 2009 12:04:51 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1DBn4fK012641 for <2035@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:49:06 -0800 Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 25so94183eya.13 for <2035@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:49:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=60ArjzIqP8XLGMBdIvy62KYGLpPHUCbQCJRzPUVnjMs=; b=lIeJugbAIC+ktrR5Kce77Q8oVLVHKcEHYa5BvMfreNs+oUzPetCXYwGcWlWd9PSdkR mGxhPJddM9peOd/idR8Qq0TuodGsrYH0Krn9ghoy749Hj+FjP8Z9UJ92X6zrEeZKR80/ H3++PjumHw2AxLdbfj6QuDE0i54NRk8OiiDb0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iGxNgI+woO3RKOF5qV8c95WTQWv5LdKysI8H+QrzJqT6wPTvTJr8t5i/yy9TEljEh9 fBQveQeUrUXeIe4FcvrIgMOWiwTFGEpzdzvExfa5LC4fwzhC/+3X3pULoKURNG/rPR5N 3hn4Ew61dghb0j9aErUeeBjXknYXqr6scIWSg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.43.10 with SMTP id q10mr1010906ebq.111.1234525743875; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:49:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <001a01c97e9c$55a8e5e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <001a01c97e9c$55a8e5e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:49:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#2035: 23.0.60; doc string of dired-read-shell-command From: Juanma Barranquero To: Drew Adams Cc: 2035@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > 1. The part about the "prefix arg", at least, doesn't make sense. This > is not a command, and there is no reference in the code to > `current-prefix-arg'. The sentence is not clear to me, even ignoring > "prefix" - *how* does ARG indicate, in the prompt, which files are > affected? It makes somewhat more sense if you look at the original version in dired-aux.el. > 2. Argument FILES is not described (should be uppercase). It is fixed in the dired-aux version :( > 3. It's not clear (to me) what the last sentence is supposed to mean. Is part of a comment in the original version. All in all, I think the docstring should say: "This is an internal function." and little more. The info in the docstring should have stayed a comment IMHO. Juanma From drew.adams@oracle.com Fri Feb 13 07:09:38 2009 Received: (at 2035) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 13 Feb 2009 15:09:38 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from acsinet11.oracle.com (acsinet11.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1DF9YmZ012143 for <2035@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:09:36 -0800 Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by acsinet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n1DF9fhp001989 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:09:43 GMT Received: from acsmt701.oracle.com (acsmt701.oracle.com [141.146.40.71]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n1DF9PJW027048; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:09:26 GMT Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.80.181) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:09:22 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Juanma Barranquero'" Cc: <2035@debbugs.gnu.org> References: <001a01c97e9c$55a8e5e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Subject: RE: bug#2035: 23.0.60; doc string of dired-read-shell-command Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:09:23 -0800 Message-ID: <001501c98ded$0e4c8070$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcmN0VkkeKKji8neSVy9p/mElCv3OwAGzNEQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Source-IP: acsmt701.oracle.com [141.146.40.71] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A010204.49958D26.0019:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 > From: Juanma Barranquero Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:49 AM > > 1. The part about the "prefix arg", at least, doesn't make > > sense. This is not a command, and there is no reference in the code to > > `current-prefix-arg'. The sentence is not clear to me, even ignoring > > "prefix" - *how* does ARG indicate, in the prompt, which files are > > affected? > > It makes somewhat more sense if you look at the original version in > dired-aux.el. > > > 2. Argument FILES is not described (should be uppercase). > > It is fixed in the dired-aux version :( > > > 3. It's not clear (to me) what the last sentence is > > supposed to mean. > > Is part of a comment in the original version. > > All in all, I think the docstring should say: "This is an internal > function." and little more. The info in the docstring should have > stayed a comment IMHO. It's not necessarily an internal function. It's a non-interactive function, but there is no reason that other code can't also call it. The doc string should explain what the function does, as always (but not how it does it). From rgm@gnu.org Wed Feb 25 00:46:52 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Feb 2009 08:46:53 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=4.0 tests=VALID_BTS_CONTROL autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1P8kohG000430 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:46:51 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LcFNa-0005tS-5e; Wed, 25 Feb 2009 03:44:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18853.1265.990432.936530@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 03:44:33 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: control Subject: control message tags 2163 moreinfo unreproducible severity 2136 minor reassign 2136 emacs,ms-dos severity 2030 minor severity 2035 minor severity 2028 minor reassign 2466 spam severity 2257 minor severity 1193 minor From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 11 09:52:23 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2011 13:52:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgGuN-00078B-Bc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:52:23 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgGuM-00077x-2p for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:52:22 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QgGuA-0000ql-Gk for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:52:10 +0200 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:52:09 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #2035 X-MailScanner-ID: 1QgGuA-0000ql-Gk X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310997131.44995@sw04r/1V+tJArbJCm5YN8w X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) tags 2035 unreproducible close 2035 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 11 09:58:12 2011 Received: (at 2035) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2011 13:58:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgH00-0007Ry-GK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:58:12 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgGzx-0007RX-Js for 2035@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:58:09 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QgGzl-000113-NH; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:57:57 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: 23.0.60; doc string of dired-read-shell-command In-Reply-To: <001a01c97e9c$55a8e5e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:23:46 -0800") Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:52:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: <001a01c97e9c$55a8e5e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Wire's _Red Barked Tree_: "Clay" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110711:2035@debbugs.gnu.org::tB/k+iwEXkph29Lo:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000iYCt X-Hashcash: 1:23:110711:drew.adams@oracle.com::KWORTyLx2ipofNf7:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000tMm6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QgGzl-000113-NH X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310997478.52667@4O4ANLeLdhV4R0foPMJZLw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 2035 Cc: 2035@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) "Drew Adams" writes: > "Read a dired shell command prompting with PROMPT (using read-string). > ARG is the prefix arg and may be used to indicate in the prompt which > files are affected. > This is an extra function so that you can redefine it." This has apparently already been fixed. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 11 11:25:47 2011 Received: (at 2035) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2011 15:25:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgIMk-0006Jw-UJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:25:47 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgIMj-0006Jk-2R for 2035@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:25:45 -0400 Received: from rtcsinet21.oracle.com (rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p6BFPa71024677 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:25:38 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by rtcsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6BFPZc1022608 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:25:36 GMT Received: from abhmt101.oracle.com (abhmt101.oracle.com [141.146.116.53]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p6BFPUjb001155; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:25:30 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:25:29 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen'" References: <001a01c97e9c$55a8e5e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Subject: RE: 23.0.60; doc string of dired-read-shell-command Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:25:29 -0700 Message-ID: <2B5C612264944E4CA33A3A4A6EA74D2D@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acw/0pRC2yDzGTkoRSqg5gqPNOcv4wADA8wA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090207.4E1B15F3.002A:SCFSTAT5015188, ss=1, re=-4.000, fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 2035 Cc: 2035@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) > This has apparently already been fixed. No, it has not. The doc string has been changed, but the bug report still applies. Please read it. What about the prefix argument? This is not a command. How can it have a prefix argument? Etc. From unknown Sun Jun 22 20:58:16 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: Did not alter fixed versions and reopened. Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:27:01 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # Did not alter fixed versions and reopened. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 11 11:46:07 2011 Received: (at 2035) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2011 15:46:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgIgQ-0008VV-J6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:46:07 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgIgO-0008Uw-AY for 2035@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:46:04 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QgIgC-0007Wh-BA; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:45:52 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: 23.0.60; doc string of dired-read-shell-command In-Reply-To: <2B5C612264944E4CA33A3A4A6EA74D2D@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:25:29 -0700") Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:45:03 +0200 Message-ID: References: <001a01c97e9c$55a8e5e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <2B5C612264944E4CA33A3A4A6EA74D2D@us.oracle.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEXHvbxvZGL+/v7q5uiB eXcSCwpEOTejlpO+rYSxAAACYUlEQVQ4jW2TQW8aMRCF3ZjU17VqvFcUKnFdZUm5YtXga1aKnSvb YHM1Yln//Y7Hi5KizmXFfH4zfjOGPN3Fsm0JRCJ3+W/e1f8DCwtxAsD+BctrBjamewUKQJLiHdhY 5wG8T2DZ3PAvJ4z01jEstYBDb88IHp0gjba2NN/lst1DBlcXqrH3NmawKg1fM/DhWCmotQXQvhTg EJxqwtTcHsAJ9wXYBwTZ9Q6BtV/A/EjEtrnaCkH4BNcuRsp2BbjjPNzAS5eGyPb2gor38TRYKzNY dUYYsnctKk4s0Xk3Q4tS6Eiur00GnWGRXk8Jrf/swVugGfhOpEjHD1bm7sTgf+ASvdOJtOlQTQCG ThEEt+eXhuz/FBDCqZ2A5ZHQ5vGh9Dhu2xvwABoyK4I9JHM0WQEXIYRinlF8P1MpVycEyyal+PQE aQZmCAxXcQSblIYUocygOZSHDQ+cNABS0klpCKM4r2FW3VlHAAsQ6JRDCcUFKDoOoH1ezTDJuTBc SU6kSxxm0rZrbaAYhlJcEi7rBA7bRmozYFpoyEsC4r4eklZJ99N5LbjsSQg1HuShNwa+5Qf00EqG wKElLEJPoTIwiWAwOHCYAM8gTI8kcEO/nycgAHzG4A/qi8KFEt71lNV4XQU34YSBqWw5tsyHsfQW GfSiqKXv6boSWmR/GQy8hCEb/zEOnwDuT3KpQXZ0BIXKvXNzCSvMzfu48dVY7KFiS8qK2f6t2f1W qtzWcXL737hqHS47rlCRAawCzsOmz8dGXgY83wcn4ZVAj6yo1x2ZQ3OlYaoADI4jK95mPUVPGfR/ AbA8+OgTiegrAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Tegan and Sara's _Sainthood_: "Hell" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110711:2035@debbugs.gnu.org::/BWT8iOejbVe/io8:000000000000000000000000000000000000000006Huq X-Hashcash: 1:23:110711:drew.adams@oracle.com::cT4LqCNTODtysZSy:0000000000000000000000000000000000000001Gg9L MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QgIgC-0007Wh-BA X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311003952.66262@thzcyZPMvpGgw8GHItq/JQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 2035 Cc: 2035@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) "Drew Adams" writes: >> This has apparently already been fixed. > > No, it has not. The doc string has been changed, but the bug report still > applies. Please read it. What about the prefix argument? This is not a > command. How can it have a prefix argument? Etc. It is passed `current-prefix-arg' in the use cases, so I think that's clear enough. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 11 22:56:09 2011 Received: (at 2035) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2011 02:56:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgT8r-0007IV-Oc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:56:09 -0400 Received: from vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.147]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgT8p-0007IH-RP for 2035@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:56:08 -0400 Received: from furball (dhcp128036225145.central.yale.edu [128.36.225.145]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6C2u1UQ018817 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:56:02 -0400 From: Chong Yidong To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#2035: 23.0.60; doc string of dired-read-shell-command References: <001a01c97e9c$55a8e5e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <2B5C612264944E4CA33A3A4A6EA74D2D@us.oracle.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:56:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:45:03 +0200") Message-ID: <87sjqcb41r.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.147 X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 2035 Cc: 2035@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > "Drew Adams" writes: > >>> This has apparently already been fixed. >> >> No, it has not. The doc string has been changed, but the bug report still >> applies. Please read it. What about the prefix argument? This is not a >> command. How can it have a prefix argument? Etc. > > It is passed `current-prefix-arg' in the use cases, so I think that's > clear enough. I fixed the remaining doc issues; closing. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 11 22:56:20 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2011 02:56:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgT91-0007Ip-Vi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:56:20 -0400 Received: from vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.147]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgT8z-0007Id-T2 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:56:18 -0400 Received: from furball (dhcp128036225145.central.yale.edu [128.36.225.145]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6C2uC62018869 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:56:12 -0400 From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 2035 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:56:11 -0400 Message-ID: <87mxgkqkac.fsf@stupidchicken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.147 X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) close 2035 thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 12 09:53:28 2011 Received: (at 2035) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2011 13:53:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgdOx-0006JW-Mk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:53:27 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgdOv-0006JH-5J for 2035@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:53:25 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p6CDrGXe028581 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:53:17 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6CDrE4Z022706 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:53:15 GMT Received: from abhmt104.oracle.com (abhmt104.oracle.com [141.146.116.56]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p6CDr8lU002427; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:53:09 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.35.193) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 06:53:08 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Chong Yidong'" , "'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen'" References: <001a01c97e9c$55a8e5e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com><2B5C612264944E4CA33A3A4A6EA74D2D@us.oracle.com> <87sjqcb41r.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Subject: RE: bug#2035: 23.0.60; doc string of dired-read-shell-command Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 06:53:05 -0700 Message-ID: <7CB60997E8644DD1BEF0DA4A50943661@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87sjqcb41r.fsf@stupidchicken.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 Thread-Index: AcxAP0h6V5D38VvUSs+Z7CBjYMWqCgAWyEWQ X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090208.4E1C51CE.003A:SCFMA922111,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 2035 Cc: 2035@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) > >>> This has apparently already been fixed. > >> > >> No, it has not. The doc string has been changed, but the > >> bug report still applies. Please read it. What about the > >> prefix argument? This is not a command. How can it have a > >> prefix argument? Etc. > > > > It is passed `current-prefix-arg' in the use cases, so I > > think that's clear enough. > > I fixed the remaining doc issues; closing. Haven't yet seen your changes, Yidong, but the reply below to Lars apparently did not make it to the thread - perhaps I forgot to use `Reply All'. I hope its points were proactively addressed by your fix. It is incorrect to speak here (at all) about "prefix arg" or `current-prefix-arg'. Thx. > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 9:13 AM To: 'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen' > Subject: RE: 23.0.60; doc string of dired-read-shell-command > > > >> This has apparently already been fixed. > > > > > > No, it has not. The doc string has been changed, but the > > > bug report still applies. Please read it. What about the > > > prefix argument? This is not a command. How can it have a > > > prefix argument? Etc. > > > > It is passed `current-prefix-arg' in the use cases, so I > > think that's clear enough. > > Only a caller knows what it passes to `dired-read-shell-command'. > The code for this function, and the doc string for this function, > make no reference to `current-prefix-arg'. > > If the code makes no reference to `current-prefix-arg' and > yet this function is always supposed to use > `current-prefix-arg', then it should not be passed as an arg > but should be hard-coded in the body. > > If, OTOH, we want the argument ARG to be able to be something > other than the value of `current-prefix-arg', then we should > keep that parameter. And if it is kept it needs to be > documented. And it must not, in that case, be documented as > the "prefix arg" or `current-prefix-arg' or any such thing. > It must be documented in its own right: what is it for? What > are its possible values? > > This should be obvious. This is the approach for any > function. If we want always the same value, then don't pass > it as a paramter. If we define a parameter then document it. From unknown Sun Jun 22 20:58:16 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 11:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator