From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:05:43 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#2024: 23.0.60; Document --daemon incompatibility with X11 options Reply-To: Stephen Berman , 2024@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: steve@escher.local.home Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:15:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 2024 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.123280958318104 (code B ref -1); Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:15:03 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 24 Jan 2009 15:06:23 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0OF6C24018098 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 07:06:13 -0800 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:58804) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LQk3p-0002iP-DN for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:04:37 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LQk5J-0003u0-Ko for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:06:10 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:57001) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LQk5H-0003tG-6a for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:06:08 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Jan 2009 15:06:05 -0000 Received: from i59F57575.versanet.de (EHLO escher.local.home) [89.245.117.117] by mail.gmx.net (mp053) with SMTP; 24 Jan 2009 16:06:05 +0100 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+RgBgooDuRNKdkB4cL5nT+vAQZTS3yPNiCMZNIAR xEX3wyAeFH4XGg Received: by escher.local.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8E52D1D115C; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:06:04 +0100 (CET) From: Stephen Berman To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Sender: steve@escher.local.home Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:06:04 +0100 Message-ID: <87vds4217n.fsf@escher.local.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.54 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.30 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.14.4) of 2009-01-21 on escher The discussion of the Emacs server in the Emacs manual (node Emacs Server) suggests that --daemon and server-start are basically equivalent methods of starting the server (aside from the difference with respect to frames, of course). This leads me to expect that regardless of which way I start the server, the result of subsequently invoking emacsclient should be the same. This is not the case, as the following examples show: (i) X resources passed via the -xrm command line option (these are all shell invocations): emacs -Q -xrm 'Emacs.ReverseVideo: on' -f server-start emacsclient -c => The client frame is in reverse video emacs -Q -xrm 'Emacs.ReverseVideo: on' --daemon emacsclient -c => The client frame is in normal video (ii) The font specification option -fn: emacs -Q -fn "Dejavu Sans Mono-10" -f server-start emacsclient -c => The client frame's font is Dejavu Sans Mono-10 emacs -Q -fn "Dejavu Sans Mono-10" --daemon emacsclient -c => The client frame's font is -etl-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-80-iso8859-1 (On my system the latter font is used when invoking emacsclient after emacs with the --daemon option regardless of which font I specify with -fn.) I reported the above observations in emacs-devel (see http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/108060) and Dan Nicolaescu replied: "You seem to assume that "emacs" and "emacs --daemon" are doing the same thing, they are not, emacs --daemon is similar to emacs -nw -f server-start so emacs --daemon it will ignore all the X11 related options." I think this similarity should be documented in the Emacs manual. It would suffice to prevent the kind of confusion I had to simply point out the similarity, but it would be more helpful and interesting to briefly explain why this similarity holds, since it is not obvious and Dan acknowledged that it would "probably" be possible to implement the daemon so that X11 options could be passed. 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Actually, now that "emacs -nw" can later on do M-x make-frame-on-display, I'd argue that the -xrm argument should always be taken into account. Stefan From rgm@gnu.org Wed Feb 11 18:06:44 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Feb 2009 02:06:44 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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