From unknown Sat Aug 16 22:43:43 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#2022 <2022@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#2022 <2022@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it Reply-To: bug#2022 <2022@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 05:43:43 +0000 retitle 2022 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it reassign 2022 emacs submitter 2022 Eli Zaretskii severity 2022 minor thanks From eliz@gnu.org Sat Jan 24 06:24:43 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 24 Jan 2009 14:24:43 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0OEOexo006582 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 06:24:41 -0800 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:56049 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LQjPd-0001dc-Nx for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:23:06 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LQjR7-0001aw-SY for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:24:39 -0500 Received: from mtaout1.012.net.il ([84.95.2.1]:20972) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LQjR7-0001a9-1k for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:24:37 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.i-mtaout1.012.net.il by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KDZ00K00C06ZU00@i-mtaout1.012.net.il> for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:24:51 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.6.113]) by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KDZ00J4PC1EX160@i-mtaout1.012.net.il> for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:24:51 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:24:37 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators to read other languages for them. Your bug report will be posted to the emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org mailing list. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug: To reproduce: emacs -Q C-u M-x rmail FOO RET C-u g FOO.2 RET The last command automatically saves the Rmail inbox (as it should), but the buffer is nevertheless marked modified after the save. If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file d:/gnu/emacs/etc/DEBUG for instructions. In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-01-24 on HOME-C4E4A596F7 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: ENU value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1255 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: RMAIL Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-u M-x r m a i l ~ / d a m a i l . i n p p p n n n n C-u g 2 C-x b * M e s s C-x b M-x r e p o r t Recent messages: Loading vc-cvs...done Counting messages...done No following nondeleted message Getting mail from d:/usr/eli/data/mail.in2... Counting new messages... Counting messages...20 Counting new messages...done (37) Saving file d:/usr/eli/data/mail.in... Wrote d:/usr/eli/data/mail.in 37 new messages read From lekktu@gmail.com Sat Jan 24 10:52:57 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 24 Jan 2009 18:52:58 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0P0DqlT024877 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:13:53 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LQsbn-00008F-FX; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:12:15 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it References: X-Spook: class struggle United Nations chameleon man airframe X-Ran: V`aazi%fK#fC6.Pab1B7vaG:^zP4APMxTS|5kn?'FC@]yS?VWjuIutC4|_/~JQ!]3-IjoU X-Hue: white X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:12:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:24:37 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Eli Zaretskii wrote: > emacs -Q > C-u M-x rmail FOO RET > C-u g FOO.2 RET > > The last command automatically saves the Rmail inbox (as it should), Yes, and at this point (after the new mail has been inserted) the buffer is (correctly) marked unmodified. > but the buffer is nevertheless marked modified after the save. But immediately after this, rmail-set-attribute is called to remove the "unseen" attribute from the first new mail inserted from FOO.2. This (correctly) marks the buffer as modified. If the mails in FOO.2 have already been seen, no buffer modification occurs. From rms@gnu.org Sat Jan 24 17:55:04 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Jan 2009 01:55:05 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0P1t1kj016947 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:55:02 -0800 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LQuDF-00039Q-5C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:55:01 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LQuDC-00038X-Ob for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:54:59 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41600 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LQuDC-00038U-JN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:54:58 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:59285) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LQuDC-0003ZL-9M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:54:58 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LQuBf-0002rJ-Bm; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:53:23 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard M Stallman To: Eli Zaretskii , 2022@debbugs.gnu.org CC: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:24:37 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it Reply-to: rms@gnu.org References: Message-Id: Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:53:23 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) emacs -Q C-u M-x rmail FOO RET C-u g FOO.2 RET The last command automatically saves the Rmail inbox (as it should), but the buffer is nevertheless marked modified after the save. Maybe it is deleting the "unseen" attribute when it shows one of the newly insertes message. From rgm@gnu.org Sat Jan 24 19:12:01 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Jan 2009 03:12:01 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0P3Bwee005016 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:11:59 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LQvOA-0004OH-Vd; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:10:23 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: rms@gnu.org Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it References: X-Spook: counter terrorism codes global subversive EuroFed Medco X-Ran: u5AX*QebVV|)V'T7M`E[zk|5@,A,wwEwZ`rOJPj{PG (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:53:23 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OT: You replied to a mail that looked like this: From: Eli Zaretskii To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii , 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Your reply was addressed to: To: Eli Zaretskii , 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Where are all these extra addresses coming from? I can understand you having emacs-pretest-bug there (even though it's unnecessary); but not bug-gnu-emacs and bug-submit-list as well. I don't think that last one is even a valid address. All this does is create duplicate mails (I got three copies of your mail). Can you check your mail setup please? (All you need is eliz and 2022). From eliz@gnu.org Sat Jan 24 20:19:20 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Jan 2009 04:19:20 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER,RCVD_IN_NIX1 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mtaout2.012.net.il (mtaout2.012.net.il [84.95.2.4]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0P4JDnA021297 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:19:15 -0800 Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout2.012.net.il by i_mtaout2.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KE000I00EO1N300@i_mtaout2.012.net.il> for 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:19:24 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.6.113]) by i_mtaout2.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KE000C4JEOBRWA2@i_mtaout2.012.net.il>; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:19:24 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:19:10 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris , 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: rms@gnu.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: References: > From: Glenn Morris > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:10:22 -0500 > Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org > > > OT: > > You replied to a mail that looked like this: > > From: Eli Zaretskii > To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org > Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii , 2022@debbugs.gnu.org > > Your reply was addressed to: > > To: Eli Zaretskii , 2022@debbugs.gnu.org > Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, > bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com > > Where are all these extra addresses coming from? Like me, Richard uses Rmail. So I'm guessing he just pressed `r', which replies to all the addresses in From:, To:, CC:, and Reply-To:, which are not himself. From eliz@gnu.org Sat Jan 24 20:20:52 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Jan 2009 04:20:53 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER,RCVD_IN_NIX1 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mtaout2.012.net.il (mtaout2.012.net.il [84.95.2.4]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0P4KjRB022458 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:20:47 -0800 Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout2.012.net.il by i_mtaout2.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KE000I00EO1N300@i_mtaout2.012.net.il> for 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:20:56 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.6.113]) by i_mtaout2.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KE000CEZEQVRWA2@i_mtaout2.012.net.il>; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:20:56 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:20:42 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: rms@gnu.org Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: References: > From: Richard M Stallman > CC: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com, > bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:53:23 -0500 > > emacs -Q > C-u M-x rmail FOO RET > C-u g FOO.2 RET > > The last command automatically saves the Rmail inbox (as it should), > but the buffer is nevertheless marked modified after the save. > > Maybe it is deleting the "unseen" attribute when it shows one of the > newly insertes message. That's what Glenn found out, yes. But I don't think I, as a user, care about that attribute: if the buffer was just saved, it is not modified from the user perspective. I find the fact that it is shown as modified confusing. From eliz@gnu.org Sat Jan 24 20:22:28 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Jan 2009 04:22:28 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER,REMOVEDOT autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mtaout5.012.net.il (mtaout5.012.net.il [84.95.2.13]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0P4MOqF022468 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:22:26 -0800 Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout5.012.net.il by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KE000B00ENGXB00@i_mtaout5.012.net.il> for 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:22:35 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.6.113]) by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KE00086UETMXTI1@i_mtaout5.012.net.il>; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:22:35 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:22:21 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: References: > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:12:15 -0500 > > But immediately after this, rmail-set-attribute is called to remove > the "unseen" attribute from the first new mail inserted from FOO.2. > This (correctly) marks the buffer as modified. Emacs does not elsewhere consider seeing a file as its modification. Why should Rmail be different? From rgm@gnu.org Sat Jan 24 21:56:12 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Jan 2009 05:56:12 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0P5u9D3013466 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:56:10 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LQxx2-0003Ke-Hh; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:54:32 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it References: X-Spook: plutonium sniper Dateline NSA assassination bce fraud X-Ran: iUps;_,6Xz>Z;Udk4[(*'1,]V14m*,V>9oJcbc#]vTc(mpEw>k'}0s?wrK X-Hue: magenta X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:54:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:19:10 +0200") Message-ID: <6diqo4orqf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Like me, Richard uses Rmail. So I'm guessing he just pressed `r', > which replies to all the addresses in From:, To:, CC:, and Reply-To:, > which are not himself. Whence bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com then? From rgm@gnu.org Sat Jan 24 21:58:42 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Jan 2009 05:58:42 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0P5wdks013534 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:58:40 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LQxzU-0003RU-A6; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:57:04 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it References: X-Spook: USCOI Crowell brigand gamma Juiliett Class Submarine X-Ran: K~gA.oE.ek_?wqMB0/)qa`"5--dKmCT3([qF1ZuxpnQ3WZ=o1TxV$<"{;J&-4iVt%hF(QC X-Hue: yellow X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:57:04 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:22:21 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Emacs does not elsewhere consider seeing a file as its modification. > Why should Rmail be different? Because seeing a file (for the first time) modifies the X-RMAIL-ATTRIBUTES: header, which is stored in the file. I guess that if you just use rmail to visit a folder which has an unseen mail, it will be marked modified in exactly the same way. From rgm@gnu.org Sat Jan 24 22:01:12 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Jan 2009 06:01:12 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0P6196E014451 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:01:10 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LQy1t-0003Zr-S0; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:59:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18811.65477.784390.505382@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:59:33 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Eli Zaretskii , 2022@debbugs.gnu.org, Richard Stallman Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it In-Reply-To: <6diqo4orqf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <6diqo4orqf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Attribution: GM X-Mailer: VM (www.wonderworks.com/vm), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs) X-Hue: blue X-Ran: UX"H4ec\Ier#T(calN6$0lmZQcJgF[GDX#g8njOsfE?1zn*V&O]dl*t=VmmYk-\W=OnHdx X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Glenn Morris wrote (on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 at 00:54 -0500): > Whence bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com then? Oh, I see, it's the Resent-To address. So this is bug#512. From eliz@gnu.org Sun Jan 25 10:36:26 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Jan 2009 18:36:27 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER,RCVD_IN_NIX1 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mtaout2.012.net.il (mtaout2.012.net.il [84.95.2.4]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0PIaMZU011685 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:36:24 -0800 Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout2.012.net.il by i_mtaout2.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KE100800ET9UW00@i_mtaout2.012.net.il> for 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:36:33 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.70.255.234]) by i_mtaout2.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KE100CTIIC1NVU4@i_mtaout2.012.net.il>; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:36:29 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:35:45 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it In-reply-to: <18811.65477.784390.505382@fencepost.gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: References: <6diqo4orqf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <18811.65477.784390.505382@fencepost.gnu.org> > Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:59:33 -0500 > From: Glenn Morris > > > Glenn Morris wrote (on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 at 00:54 -0500): > > > Whence bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com then? > > Oh, I see, it's the Resent-To address. Yes, and bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org comes from Resent-CC. What about that one? From eliz@gnu.org Sun Jan 25 10:59:24 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Jan 2009 18:59:24 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mtaout6.012.net.il (mtaout6.012.net.il [84.95.2.16]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0PIxK4b016644 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:59:22 -0800 Received: from conversion-daemon.i-mtaout6.012.net.il by i-mtaout6.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KE100M00J9XFS00@i-mtaout6.012.net.il> for 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:59:31 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.70.255.234]) by i-mtaout6.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KE1001W8JF17T11@i-mtaout6.012.net.il>; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:59:31 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:59:10 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: References: > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:57:04 -0500 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Emacs does not elsewhere consider seeing a file as its modification. > > Why should Rmail be different? > > Because seeing a file (for the first time) modifies the > X-RMAIL-ATTRIBUTES: header, which is stored in the file. The old (pre-mbox) Rmail also had the unseen attribute, but it never marked the Rmail buffer modified when it was removed. So this is a change in behavior, and I can't say I like it. I don't think we want to regard seeing a message as a modification, since the body of the message does not change a bit. But if we do make this change, at the very least, it should have been implemented as an option, and/or via an idle timer, so that just paging thru many messages does not automatically mark them as ``seen'', although no human could possibly ``see'' a message in a fraction of a second. From rgm@gnu.org Sun Jan 25 12:47:38 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Jan 2009 20:47:38 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0PKlZ3K012513 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:47:36 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LRBrj-000449-7P; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:45:59 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it References: X-Spook: USDOJ target Abu Ghraib freedom Albright Defcon Noriega S X-Ran: 2<_yT|(#j}q/9Tbp_CX9PX!%D{`6xA$P@"0'R8:>?tEytyO[>gw.L|bEU#E::2_WKK.n~A X-Hue: magenta X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:45:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:59:10 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Eli Zaretskii wrote: > The old (pre-mbox) Rmail also had the unseen attribute, but it never > marked the Rmail buffer modified when it was removed. That's a good argument. I wonder how it worked... > I don't think we want to regard seeing a message as a modification, > since the body of the message does not change a bit. But the meta-data (or whatever you want to call it) has changed. If Emacs were to crash without saving at that point, you would lose some data, namely the data that you had viewed a particular mail. It seems pretty reasonable to me. It's what VM does, for example. From eliz@gnu.org Sun Jan 25 13:04:23 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Jan 2009 21:04:23 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mtaout5.012.net.il (mtaout5.012.net.il [84.95.2.13]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0PL4Ft5016164 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:04:16 -0800 Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout5.012.net.il by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KE100L00OQ12500@i_mtaout5.012.net.il> for 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:03:52 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.70.255.234]) by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KE100CBXP5ZA371@i_mtaout5.012.net.il>; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:03:52 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:03:20 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: References: > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:45:59 -0500 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > The old (pre-mbox) Rmail also had the unseen attribute, but it never > > marked the Rmail buffer modified when it was removed. > > That's a good argument. I wonder how it worked... By setting the buffer's modified flag, like it's done everywhere else. From rgm@gnu.org Sun Jan 25 17:55:34 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 26 Jan 2009 01:55:34 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0Q1tVqq026579 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:55:32 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LRGfi-0002f0-0x; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:53:54 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it References: X-Spook: Forte Aladdin Semtex Project Monarch counter intelligence X-Ran: -pmc6.yUya*Ifu5$Z``#qny5b0$)s:?K3CPiU/|F (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:03:20 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Eli Zaretskii wrote: > By setting the buffer's modified flag, like it's done everywhere else. Actually, it seems rmail-mode-1 used to lie to you by doing: (setq mode-line-modified "--") Seems like a bad idea to me... Anyway, (add-hook 'rmail-mode-hook (lambda () (setq mode-line-modified "--"))) and you're back to having the wool pulled over your eyes. From rms@gnu.org Sun Jan 25 20:24:21 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 26 Jan 2009 04:24:21 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0Q4ODd9031702 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:24:14 -0800 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LRIzc-0007WJ-Rr; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:22:37 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard M Stallman To: Glenn Morris CC: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Glenn Morris on Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:10:22 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it Reply-to: rms@gnu.org References: Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:22:36 -0500 You replied to a mail that looked like this: From: Eli Zaretskii To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii , 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Your reply was addressed to: To: Eli Zaretskii , 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com They were in the message I replied to. Rmail's reply command puts them in automatically. Sometimes I remember to delete them, sometimes I forget. Here's what I get in *mail*: To: Eli Zaretskii , 2022@debbugs.gnu.org CC: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org The inclusion of those other addresses is certainly undesirable, but given these headers, is Rmail doing something wrong? X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 2022 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.12328070836588 (code B ref -1); Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:30:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 24 Jan 2009 14:24:43 +0000 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0OEOexo006582 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 06:24:41 -0800 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:56049 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LQjPd-0001dc-Nx for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:23:06 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LQjR7-0001aw-SY for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:24:39 -0500 Received: from mtaout1.012.net.il ([84.95.2.1]:20972) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LQjR7-0001a9-1k for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:24:37 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.i-mtaout1.012.net.il by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KDZ00K00C06ZU00@i-mtaout1.012.net.il> for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:24:51 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.6.113]) by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KDZ00J4PC1EX160@i-mtaout1.012.net.il> for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:24:51 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:24:37 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Message-id: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:43:33 -0500 Cc: Subject: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii , 2022@debbugs.gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+rms=gnu.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+rms=gnu.org@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) From rgm@gnu.org Sun Jan 25 23:27:45 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 26 Jan 2009 07:27:46 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0Q7Rg4E013408 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:27:44 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LRLr5-0002B8-C9; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:25:59 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: rms@gnu.org Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it References: X-Spook: EuroFed blackjack lynch BROMURE ammunition Hamas X-Ran: c)tu}DJ2"E}%$6Of (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:22:36 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Richard M Stallman wrote: > The inclusion of those other addresses is certainly undesirable, > but given these headers, is Rmail doing something wrong? Rmail was including the Resent-To and Resent-CC addresses in the reply. It was established on emacs-devel in June 2008 that this is incorrect according to RFC 2822 (filed as bug#512). I believe I have just fixed this in rmail-reply. From monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Mon Jan 26 13:32:35 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 26 Jan 2009 21:32:36 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER,XIRONPORT autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.pppoe.ca [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0QLWWgY001770 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:32:33 -0800 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkcFAMK6fUnO+LLC/2dsb2JhbACBbcdIhUuCIg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,327,1231131600"; d="scan'208";a="32851559" Received: from 206-248-178-194.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.178.194]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 26 Jan 2009 16:32:26 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9F6348040; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:32:25 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Glenn Morris Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it Message-ID: References: Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:32:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:25:59 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> The inclusion of those other addresses is certainly undesirable, >> but given these headers, is Rmail doing something wrong? > Rmail was including the Resent-To and Resent-CC addresses in the > reply. It was established on emacs-devel in June 2008 that this is > incorrect according to RFC 2822 (filed as bug#512). I believe I have > just fixed this in rmail-reply. Thank you, Stefan PS: The rest still needs to be fixed on the debbugs side. From rms@gnu.org Mon Jan 26 22:13:21 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 27 Jan 2009 06:13:21 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0R6DHTt004522 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:13:19 -0800 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LRhCH-0002AO-28 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:13:17 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LRhCE-000284-F7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:13:15 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41236 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LRhCD-00027g-Rc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:13:13 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:52214) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LRhCD-00057N-Gu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:13:13 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LRhAd-00068T-Fc; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:11:35 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard M Stallman To: Glenn Morris , 2022@debbugs.gnu.org CC: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com, 2022@debbugs.gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com In-reply-to: (message from Glenn Morris on Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:25:59 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it Reply-to: rms@gnu.org References: Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:11:35 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Rmail was including the Resent-To and Resent-CC addresses in the reply. It was established on emacs-devel in June 2008 that this is incorrect according to RFC 2822 (filed as bug#512). This conclusion seems really strange. If you received a message that was resent to you and others, shouldn't they be in the CC for your response? I searched my mail from June for bug.512 and got no matches. Can you send me whatever message stated the reasons for this conclusion? From rgm@gnu.org Mon Jan 26 23:53:07 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 27 Jan 2009 07:53:07 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0R7r08g029559 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:53:01 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LRij7-00086C-Sj; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:51:17 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: rms@gnu.org Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it References: X-Spook: Watergate ICE Montenegro terrorism Hamas MP5K-SD Saddam X-Ran: Y2>P(>O!pAyFTFgHku5t#z?>]~i.`[ak\Y*0`]'0Z=Tc~_B0/q8D-x}v8}_"!A-C;T7KzU X-Hue: magenta X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:51:17 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:11:35 -0500") Message-ID: <4ihc3lb30q.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Richard M Stallman wrote: > This conclusion seems really strange. If you received a message that > was resent to you and others, shouldn't they be in the CC for your response? > > I searched my mail from June for bug.512 and got no matches. > Can you send me whatever message stated the reasons for this conclusion? For the record, this discussion has moved to emacs-devel. From rgm@gnu.org Thu Jan 29 14:07:59 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 29 Jan 2009 22:07:59 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0TM7utp002756 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:07:58 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LSf1b-0006A6-Go; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:06:15 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it References: X-Spook: infowar global Verisign NORAD Legion of Doom espionage X-Ran: mdfQl[%HB:TqhXfQy,8f;>k8>bnHLSqh User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'd propose to tag this "wontfix", unless there are objections? From eliz@gnu.org Fri Jan 30 01:29:17 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 30 Jan 2009 09:29:18 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mtaout1.012.net.il (mtaout1.012.net.il [84.95.2.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0U9T9kb009443 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:29:11 -0800 Received: from conversion-daemon.i-mtaout1.012.net.il by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KEA00700277J700@i-mtaout1.012.net.il> for 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:29:23 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.109.18]) by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KEA0091J2CYE2C0@i-mtaout1.012.net.il>; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:29:23 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:29:03 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: References: > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: Eli Zaretskii > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:06:15 -0500 > > > I'd propose to tag this "wontfix", unless there are objections? Objection! I would like Rmail to keep the previous behavior, whereby it sets up the mode line to not show the modified status. There's no real reason to change that behavior; I'm not aware of any request for such a feature. From rgm@gnu.org Fri Jan 30 09:40:00 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 30 Jan 2009 17:40:01 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0UHdrWi002453 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:39:54 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LSxJi-00046B-6W; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:38:10 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it References: X-Spook: weapons of mass destruction espionage AIEWS MIT-LL spy X-Ran: /0@,?{XX\H1I=e?#yk.X)$Lhu (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:29:03 +0200") Message-ID: <0gtz7gwv7h.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I would like Rmail to keep the previous behavior, whereby it sets up > the mode line to not show the modified status. There's no real reason > to change that behavior; I'm not aware of any request for such a > feature. Fair enough. I'm not an rmail user, so my opinion is not worth much. (But the old behaviour seems like a bug to me, rather than a feature.) From rms@gnu.org Fri Jan 30 15:07:11 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 30 Jan 2009 23:07:11 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0UN782T020799 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:07:09 -0800 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LT2S4-0000Dx-B6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:07:08 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LT2S3-0000Ct-TI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:07:07 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36531 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LT2S3-0000Cf-LJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:07:07 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:47872) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LT2S3-0001Cb-2Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:07:07 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LT2QO-0006fV-C6; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:05:24 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard M Stallman To: Eli Zaretskii , 2022@debbugs.gnu.org CC: rgm@gnu.org, bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com, 2022@debbugs.gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com In-reply-to: (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:29:03 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it Reply-to: rms@gnu.org References: Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:05:24 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) I would like Rmail to keep the previous behavior, whereby it sets up the mode line to not show the modified status. I changed that a long time ago, because I discovered I did want to know whether the buffer is modified. From geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Fri Jan 30 20:18:07 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 31 Jan 2009 04:18:07 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0V4I2Yq000407 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:18:04 -0800 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LT7Iw-0001sy-3V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:18:02 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LT7Iv-0001sZ-0P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:18:01 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49803 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LT7Iu-0001sV-RB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:18:00 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:58744 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LT7Iu-0003OA-H0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:18:00 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LT7Ip-0005IO-5F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:17:55 +0000 Received: from c-67-161-145-183.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([67.161.145.183]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:17:55 +0000 Received: from kevin.d.rodgers by c-67-161-145-183.hsd1.co.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:17:55 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Kevin Rodgers Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:17:54 -0700 Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-161-145-183.hsd1.co.comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) In-Reply-To: Sender: news X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Richard M Stallman wrote: > I would like Rmail to keep the previous behavior, whereby it sets up > the mode line to not show the modified status. > > I changed that a long time ago, because I discovered I did want to > know whether the buffer is modified. And the truth shall set you free. -- Kevin Rodgers Denver, Colorado, USA From eliz@gnu.org Sat Jan 31 00:25:37 2009 Received: (at 2022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 31 Jan 2009 08:25:37 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mtaout5.012.net.il (mtaout5.012.net.il [84.95.2.13]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0V8PSCN030953 for <2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:25:30 -0800 Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout5.012.net.il by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KEB00900U0A0F00@i_mtaout5.012.net.il> for 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:25:40 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.109.18]) by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KEB00MMEU2MQ131@i_mtaout5.012.net.il>; Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:25:35 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:25:16 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: rms@gnu.org Cc: 2022@debbugs.gnu.org, rgm@gnu.org Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii Message-id: References: > From: Richard M Stallman > CC: rgm@gnu.org, bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com, > 2022@debbugs.gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, > owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:05:24 -0500 > > I would like Rmail to keep the previous behavior, whereby it sets up > the mode line to not show the modified status. > > I changed that a long time ago, because I discovered I did want to > know whether the buffer is modified. Well, at least this change in behavior should be in NEWS. From rgm@gnu.org Thu Feb 12 20:01:14 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 13 Feb 2009 04:01:14 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=4.0 tests=VALID_BTS_CONTROL autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1D41BxL023667 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:01:13 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LXpCp-00069z-PK for control@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:59:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18836.61455.732426.275508@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:59:11 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: control Subject: control message severity 2022 minor severity 2269 minor severity 2251 minor severity 2288 wishlist merge 2317 2318 reassign 2316 spam From rgm@gnu.org Thu Mar 5 19:49:35 2009 Received: (at 2022-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 6 Mar 2009 03:49:35 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n263nXV3029262 for <2022-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:49:34 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LfR40-0005s0-8D; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:49:32 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 2022-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it References: X-Spook: arrangements KGB security morse 2600 Magazine Albright X-Ran: 9yy~>.Gu8/?zy1{RV$9=>Y(h*c"ZIgNZgTaW=e`dG4)DXwF,2.Qru3(BAvDzG%GznLm0x< X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:49:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:25:16 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Well, at least this change in behavior should be in NEWS. ok, done From unknown Sat Aug 16 22:43:43 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: $requester Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # A New Hope # A log time ago, in a galaxy far, far away # something happened. # # Magically this resulted in the following # action being taken, but this fake control # message doesn't tell you why it happened # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator