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25.0.50; Emacs manual, `i HOME RET' sends you to `Moving Point', which is wrong

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Message #26 received at 20105 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 20105 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#20105: 25.0.50;
 Emacs manual, `i HOME RET' sends you to `Moving Point', which is wrong
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 19:39:10 +0200

> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2015 09:44:09 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
> Cc: 20105 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> (We might also want to add an entry for `<home> keyboard key'.)

I changed the existing entry to say "HOME key".  The other one now
mentions it's an environment variable.

> Also, I question whether the quote marks should be included in these
> two index entries:
> 
> * 'HOME' directory on MS-Windows:    Windows HOME.        (line   6)
> * 'HOME' directory under MS-DOS:     MS-DOS File Names.   (line  35)
> 
> Et voila: That's probably why typing `host' does not match either of
> these entries.  And it's perhaps why it does work for you: the curly
> quotes are perhaps not present for you, in the indexes.

Yes, I still use the old makeinfo to produce the manual, and this
subtle difference seems to be one more incompatibility of the new
versions.  I fixed that.

> Interestingly, copying and pasting those into this mail shows them
> as curly quotes, but in Info they appear to be straight.  They are
> LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK etc.  I guess it is the default Info font
> that makes them appear straight.
> 
> But I thought that we had arranged to use the older makeinfo or
> whatever, and that Emacs was arranging to keep simple backtick and
> apostrophe in the produced Info buffers.  No?  I see now that Isearch
> for ` or ' fails miserably in Info, wrt finding such quoted names.
> 
> This makes it hard for users who want to use keyboard keys ` and '
> for searching.  That's a clear regression in usefulness, IMHO.

I guess this is a question for Dani, who produced the files.

I think the bug can now be closed.

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