From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:35:02 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20090: 24.4: linking to a position within an info node Resent-From: Boruch Baum Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 22:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 20090 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 20090@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.142611246628831 (code B ref -1); Wed, 11 Mar 2015 22:22:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Mar 2015 22:21:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43222 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YVozx-0007Uu-Rv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:21:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43425) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YVozw-0007UC-Rd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:21:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YVozq-0003kD-OR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:20:59 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:59809) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YVozq-0003k7-Li for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:20:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45147) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YVozp-0001qE-Nm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:20:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YVozm-0003ip-GW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:20:57 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:52197) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YVozm-0003ia-6i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:20:54 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.7] ([96.232.130.59]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MUI8w-1YwnmI31d4-00R3HA for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 23:20:53 +0100 Message-ID: <5500BF9E.7010608@gmx.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:20:14 -0400 From: Boruch Baum User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 OpenPGP: url=hkp://keys.gnupg.net Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4D0dKCpqSbq5iUBj5T7u6nE5xHsMlrST1" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:RwHf32qXY1bYdM659sqrFUov86wXaeum5qQ3oYAqdA70RAn/eTD KSRSle1rmu9um8f0Mr9NW9Xnr1OF9eeiOKfBVMS7TBwRND63jbzHspsmem1TBd29qOZuNIy 9uu3/sfZgm/1IyFTGk7DZ8vYPHb3EU3m6k2ZYQTDcGRtZE/lInlxzV22Db8xFEs1B2jnDGG EsNnJby/96IQMKBjJTtGw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --4D0dKCpqSbq5iUBj5T7u6nE5xHsMlrST1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When the org mode manual discusses creating links, it gives an example of linking to an info node (the self-referencing example is `info:org#External' links). The manual continues, at node `info:org#Search options', to describe how specific positions within file links can be directly specified. This does work for links to regular files, but does not work for positions within an info node (eg. line 85 of node x). --=20 hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0 --4D0dKCpqSbq5iUBj5T7u6nE5xHsMlrST1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVAL+eAAoJEDvrUfDmCx9LMA4P/3pjuKRLunSpE/EeIpAT+bXO bBnReAdE6GsnHG+kPf0EafRjkqaq73QBZ1yQSdCj2SRqOTaE2WdtuT6ZtBoSoRRV eRPIL1YR32EmVAnndH8yTyCNWwqt3WcdY50vQLwAZXwAzFMA7wZQ76Y306iEY8kT BK0TFNL6ebg4jZXZ+kwg94cTX7Gtvc4iSzYo1ziVD9GhdqQfskDFrtZCNiKS+70C iMFfkYtTZlyDzuNRHOaaKO79/Pn/f4EZ0V7Ei/z9G+3nGNH7l/Gj5UorE5r0XIgx qugBdZABQoK+EYacKKTwVNAjPfJaHtpCMCtGQCBUQtnHwgShp87xsr2gr5x/WnNP GssfwL0FQ/g9ZR7q5fXMdUmo2D1eHmV4D9pAMBq2fd0XS+Wi0IluYJp1ao3DydSx QsL283kaTpOkPGDggNdZfMGmwte3wyeJKfkcU9f52l/T7vkZAxiQZXWtjwihdjw8 cBhNloYzm69U2DQ/IMvCFtEg9C1wfOMMO8mVc3GTJcEnuzyRhgoHBC/AE/wQYoug r3IfV0zknkvhGNQW9eheHBmJlCGay2xvZDcyIWcyZDLyoJSSNE3wIG0ZuEnEi6R4 zfnfmZoq2iXpAmeAfH3HlmVOr5urX73DVzNrVn8lg27bgLVTlrygpXUevsdFZxEM GHO42fc4QRFKSrsQR3zP =ADH5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4D0dKCpqSbq5iUBj5T7u6nE5xHsMlrST1-- From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:35:02 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20090: 24.4: linking to a position within an info node Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 19:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20090 X-GNU-PR-Package: org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Boruch Baum Cc: 20090@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20090-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20090.14261898918930 (code B ref 20090); Thu, 12 Mar 2015 19:52:02 +0000 Received: (at 20090) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2015 19:51:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44273 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YW98l-0002Jx-0L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 15:51:31 -0400 Received: from ps18281.dreamhost.com ([69.163.222.226]:44160 helo=ps18281.dreamhostps.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YW98i-0002Jp-Jy for 20090@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 15:51:28 -0400 Received: from localhost.linkov.net (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.222.226]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4653230322570F; Thu, 12 Mar 2015 12:51:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Juri Linkov Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <5500BF9E.7010608@gmx.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 21:50:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5500BF9E.7010608@gmx.com> (Boruch Baum's message of "Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:20:14 -0400") Message-ID: <87oanyc7vg.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > When the org mode manual discusses creating links, it gives an example > of linking to an info node (the self-referencing example is > `info:org#External' links). The manual continues, at node > `info:org#Search options', to describe how specific positions within > file links can be directly specified. This does work for links to > regular files, but does not work for positions within an info node (eg. > line 85 of node x). Is there an official format for the line numbers in Info cross-references? (info "(texinfo) Printing Indices & Menus") documents the format of line numbers only in the index, not in the cross-references: * In Info output, `@printindex' produces a special menu containing the line number of the entry, relative to the start of the node. Info readers can use this to go to the exact line of an entry, not just the containing node. (Older Info readers will just go to the node.) Here's an example: * First index entry: Top. (line 7) The actual number of spaces is variable, to right-justify the line number; it's been reduced here to make the line fit in the printed manual. The Info reader already supports this format in the index. From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:35:02 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20090: 24.4: linking to a position within an info node Resent-From: Boruch Baum Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 15:00:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20090 X-GNU-PR-Package: org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Juri Linkov Cc: 20090@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20090-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20090.142625878529102 (code B ref 20090); Fri, 13 Mar 2015 15:00:04 +0000 Received: (at 20090) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Mar 2015 14:59:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45282 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YWR3x-0007ZK-6c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 10:59:45 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:54822) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YWR3u-0007Z4-RV for 20090@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 10:59:43 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.4] ([96.232.130.59]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MBnSJ-1Yg1iZ2MzP-00Amnn; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 15:59:36 +0100 Message-ID: <5502FB32.9090006@gmx.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 10:58:58 -0400 From: Boruch Baum User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5500BF9E.7010608@gmx.com> <87oanyc7vg.fsf@mail.linkov.net> In-Reply-To: <87oanyc7vg.fsf@mail.linkov.net> OpenPGP: url=hkp://keys.gnupg.net Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="19Eg6oC6pLs20gvcIJOHhKj09pDjgIffN" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Veb4j1EoWUMBn6ZJBpB9NTV9neqcpmUr2+E5eXiNoQfag90lprQ 82YLq9WAHU1Q6v+SglrVWtNgzSuUTps7i7AODTLTqyIHuXlK3VIdf30heFEx3Isiu/SVr7F yh0973wP09Nrw0jrGWmuv0u+gxR42hIqEaqJtpf+KgzWD2eTB8fmOe9g/QK94RwtpqgPMKH BoOr7YHwKNRqvXa9PCnWQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --19Eg6oC6pLs20gvcIJOHhKj09pDjgIffN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/12/2015 03:50 PM, Juri Linkov wrote: >> When the org mode manual discusses creating links, it gives an example= >> of linking to an info node (the self-referencing example is >> `info:org#External' links). The manual continues, at node >> `info:org#Search options', to describe how specific positions within >> file links can be directly specified. This does work for links to >> regular files, but does not work for positions within an info node (eg= =2E >> line 85 of node x). >=20 > Is there an official format for the line numbers in Info cross-referenc= es? I don't know - my assumption was that within emacs, it would be basically just another type of emacs buffer, and be a legitimate subject for all elisp commands. Your question got me thinking, that emacs may have subtle rendering quirks, so just now, I opened fresh instances of info buffers in both very wide and very narrow windows, and they both `fill' to the same line length, ie the wide window has a lot of right-side white-space, and the narrow window has lines wrapped. Since I submitted the bug report, I've continued trying to get the feature working, and have been experimenting with the org-mode hooks `org-create-file-search-functions' and `org-execute-file-search-functions' to no success. The only, supposedly working examples I've come across for these functions are [1] and [2]. If you know of other resources, that could be helpful. One other possible related bug I've found is that when trying to use org-store-link for a particular line number within an org-file, the link is created to the most recent header. One can successfully, manually, hack the created link, replacing the reference to the header with a line number, in order to be able to navigate directly to the desired line (all this, for a link target in an org mode file - this was done as a test, once I came across the original bug) [3]. [1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10681766/emacs-org-mode-textual-refer= ence-to-a-fileline [2] http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/.emacs-DominiqueQuatravaux.el [3] info:org#Search options >=20 > (info "(texinfo) Printing Indices & Menus") documents the format of > line numbers only in the index, not in the cross-references: >=20 > * In Info output, `@printindex' produces a special menu containing > the line number of the entry, relative to the start of the node. > Info readers can use this to go to the exact line of an entry, not= > just the containing node. (Older Info readers will just go to the= > node.) Here's an example: >=20 > * First index entry: Top. (line 7) >=20 > The actual number of spaces is variable, to right-justify the line= > number; it's been reduced here to make the line fit in the printed= > manual. >=20 > The Info reader already supports this format in the index. >=20 --=20 hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0 --19Eg6oC6pLs20gvcIJOHhKj09pDjgIffN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVAvsyAAoJEDvrUfDmCx9LlIcP/iB9XjsSF6+Q2RjKZBpDKc8D EIw2SpMd49tvKSh0WyzxmGCynJ5aOF33o3ydJinzzUcesrTufl/0Kfo7+eQMCC0J Vn0x8V3Sg8F8080UoGpZqqI1arb2apJMiwRLp3gncixDf60rw5p4EW3zhnr6Jwkn ieV2qgfmFiMn6eNPg+ao0Okt4qIP/mY4WeuEdPHIsMXxwxOTd93kylJ9W9tadAHN 1lahTOneMoieeCCDyWaff2u5IgatcOavv47PuOh0CAL2V5XRxZARjudi3NE7kEoO 8hF8XbliLVXVlp82S+jvIeKsxoV6GDzpcIMTFkONJsfuPUnZgOuII66dd3XRpMIZ D+RAiqiVHJIhyy4KmEnSUoDxiEN67ot8cAWGfOFEF0IkCROR2MVddnkJVB4frw5W /7UVRKWE89SylVUu17fEJYhp9WxdR5wUjsi5Ihh0qjO5hDhMEfkRrfZIAt/z8Cty i+EVRx9gZYaLiT1jUx2CCmvS1QFoMBW3rq0EQ7O5RUujVfepNz2Zyg8ifooeO+dM x91P5K1RAEVnwZij+ejHWdX0G2hV2XZgdb+GTnRQUP5FmCZnS/BGvOUlqwn0/vNh cLAZLtoIDsv6KTlBjvTtqqdLUQGdlcf5Ck/ym2IfiAygmD86XwCz6+1BoAT1767f BciNb+0ch8tm5cBI86JE =YsU1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --19Eg6oC6pLs20gvcIJOHhKj09pDjgIffN-- From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:35:02 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20090: 24.4: linking to a position within an info node Resent-From: Nicolas Goaziou Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 17:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20090 X-GNU-PR-Package: org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Boruch Baum Cc: 20090@debbugs.gnu.org, Juri Linkov Received: via spool by 20090-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20090.151232203013196 (code B ref 20090); Sun, 03 Dec 2017 17:28:02 +0000 Received: (at 20090) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Dec 2017 17:27:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43660 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eLY2o-0003Qm-0X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 12:27:10 -0500 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:46645) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eLY2m-0003Qf-VE for 20090@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 12:27:09 -0500 Received: from saiph.selenimh (000043010000000000000469.ipv6.commingeshautdebit.fr [IPv6:2a03:a0a0:0:4301::469]) (Authenticated sender: mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8D14CA80C4; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:27:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from ngz by saiph.selenimh with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eLY2j-00008t-QF; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 18:27:05 +0100 From: Nicolas Goaziou In-Reply-To: <5502FB32.9090006@gmx.com> (Boruch Baum's message of "Fri, 13 Mar 2015 10:58:58 -0400") References: <5500BF9E.7010608@gmx.com> <87oanyc7vg.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <5502FB32.9090006@gmx.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 18:27:05 +0100 Message-ID: <87shcrafiu.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Hello, Boruch Baum writes: > On 03/12/2015 03:50 PM, Juri Linkov wrote: >>> When the org mode manual discusses creating links, it gives an example >>> of linking to an info node (the self-referencing example is >>> `info:org#External' links). The manual continues, at node >>> `info:org#Search options', to describe how specific positions within >>> file links can be directly specified. This does work for links to >>> regular files, but does not work for positions within an info node (eg. >>> line 85 of node x). >> >> Is there an official format for the line numbers in Info cross-references? > I don't know - my assumption was that within emacs, it would be > basically just another type of emacs buffer, and be a legitimate subject > for all elisp commands. > > Your question got me thinking, that emacs may have subtle rendering > quirks, so just now, I opened fresh instances of info buffers in both > very wide and very narrow windows, and they both `fill' to the same line > length, ie the wide window has a lot of right-side white-space, and the > narrow window has lines wrapped. > > Since I submitted the bug report, I've continued trying to get the > feature working, and have been experimenting with the org-mode hooks > `org-create-file-search-functions' and > `org-execute-file-search-functions' to no success. The only, supposedly > working examples I've come across for these functions are [1] and [2]. > If you know of other resources, that could be helpful. Info links are also meant to be exported. Linking to a line number doesn't sound portable. I don't think it should be supported out of the box. In any case, you can implement your own link types, if you need this specific feature. See `org-link-parameters' for details. > One other possible related bug I've found is that when trying to use > org-store-link for a particular line number within an org-file, the link > is created to the most recent header. One can successfully, manually, > hack the created link, replacing the reference to the header with a line > number, in order to be able to navigate directly to the desired line > (all this, for a link target in an org mode file - this was done as a > test, once I came across the original bug) [3]. Please open a new bug report if you think you found a bug. I'm closing this one. Thank you! Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou 0x80A93738 From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:35:02 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Boruch Baum Subject: bug#20090: closed (Re: bug#20090: 24.4: linking to a position within an info node) Message-ID: References: <87lgijafhy.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <5500BF9E.7010608@gmx.com> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 20090 X-Gnu-PR-Package: org-mode Reply-To: 20090@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 17:28:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1512322082-13280-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1512322082-13280-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #20090: 24.4: linking to a position within an info node which was filed against the org-mode package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 20090@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 20090: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D20090 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1512322082-13280-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 20090-close) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Dec 2017 17:27:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43663 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eLY3I-0003RU-AN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 12:27:40 -0500 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:39599) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eLY3G-0003RM-S6 for 20090-close@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 12:27:39 -0500 Received: from saiph.selenimh (000043010000000000000469.ipv6.commingeshautdebit.fr [IPv6:2a03:a0a0:0:4301::469]) (Authenticated sender: mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 41BB2A80C4 for <20090-close@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:27:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from ngz by saiph.selenimh with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eLY3F-00008z-Lo for 20090-close@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 18:27:37 +0100 From: Nicolas Goaziou To: 20090-close@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#20090: 24.4: linking to a position within an info node In-Reply-To: <5502FB32.9090006@gmx.com> (Boruch Baum's message of "Fri, 13 Mar 2015 10:58:58 -0400") References: <5500BF9E.7010608@gmx.com> <87oanyc7vg.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <5502FB32.9090006@gmx.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 18:27:37 +0100 Message-ID: <87lgijafhy.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20090-close X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Closing the bug report. ------------=_1512322082-13280-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Mar 2015 22:21:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43222 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YVozx-0007Uu-Rv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:21:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43425) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YVozw-0007UC-Rd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:21:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YVozq-0003kD-OR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:20:59 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:59809) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YVozq-0003k7-Li for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:20:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45147) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YVozp-0001qE-Nm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:20:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YVozm-0003ip-GW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:20:57 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:52197) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YVozm-0003ia-6i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:20:54 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.7] ([96.232.130.59]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MUI8w-1YwnmI31d4-00R3HA for ; Wed, 11 Mar 2015 23:20:53 +0100 Message-ID: <5500BF9E.7010608@gmx.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:20:14 -0400 From: Boruch Baum User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.4: linking to a position within an info node OpenPGP: url=hkp://keys.gnupg.net Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4D0dKCpqSbq5iUBj5T7u6nE5xHsMlrST1" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:RwHf32qXY1bYdM659sqrFUov86wXaeum5qQ3oYAqdA70RAn/eTD KSRSle1rmu9um8f0Mr9NW9Xnr1OF9eeiOKfBVMS7TBwRND63jbzHspsmem1TBd29qOZuNIy 9uu3/sfZgm/1IyFTGk7DZ8vYPHb3EU3m6k2ZYQTDcGRtZE/lInlxzV22Db8xFEs1B2jnDGG EsNnJby/96IQMKBjJTtGw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --4D0dKCpqSbq5iUBj5T7u6nE5xHsMlrST1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When the org mode manual discusses creating links, it gives an example of linking to an info node (the self-referencing example is `info:org#External' links). The manual continues, at node `info:org#Search options', to describe how specific positions within file links can be directly specified. This does work for links to regular files, but does not work for positions within an info node (eg. line 85 of node x). --=20 hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0 --4D0dKCpqSbq5iUBj5T7u6nE5xHsMlrST1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVAL+eAAoJEDvrUfDmCx9LMA4P/3pjuKRLunSpE/EeIpAT+bXO bBnReAdE6GsnHG+kPf0EafRjkqaq73QBZ1yQSdCj2SRqOTaE2WdtuT6ZtBoSoRRV eRPIL1YR32EmVAnndH8yTyCNWwqt3WcdY50vQLwAZXwAzFMA7wZQ76Y306iEY8kT BK0TFNL6ebg4jZXZ+kwg94cTX7Gtvc4iSzYo1ziVD9GhdqQfskDFrtZCNiKS+70C iMFfkYtTZlyDzuNRHOaaKO79/Pn/f4EZ0V7Ei/z9G+3nGNH7l/Gj5UorE5r0XIgx qugBdZABQoK+EYacKKTwVNAjPfJaHtpCMCtGQCBUQtnHwgShp87xsr2gr5x/WnNP GssfwL0FQ/g9ZR7q5fXMdUmo2D1eHmV4D9pAMBq2fd0XS+Wi0IluYJp1ao3DydSx QsL283kaTpOkPGDggNdZfMGmwte3wyeJKfkcU9f52l/T7vkZAxiQZXWtjwihdjw8 cBhNloYzm69U2DQ/IMvCFtEg9C1wfOMMO8mVc3GTJcEnuzyRhgoHBC/AE/wQYoug r3IfV0zknkvhGNQW9eheHBmJlCGay2xvZDcyIWcyZDLyoJSSNE3wIG0ZuEnEi6R4 zfnfmZoq2iXpAmeAfH3HlmVOr5urX73DVzNrVn8lg27bgLVTlrygpXUevsdFZxEM GHO42fc4QRFKSrsQR3zP =ADH5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4D0dKCpqSbq5iUBj5T7u6nE5xHsMlrST1-- ------------=_1512322082-13280-1-- From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:35:02 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20090: improperly closed References: <5500BF9E.7010608@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: <5500BF9E.7010608@gmx.com> Resent-From: Boruch Baum Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 19:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20090 X-GNU-PR-Package: org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 20090@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: Emacs Bug Reporting , 20090@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20090-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20090.151232819522760 (code B ref 20090); Sun, 03 Dec 2017 19:10:02 +0000 Received: (at 20090) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Dec 2017 19:09:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43777 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eLZeF-0005v2-8z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 14:09:55 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:61070) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eLZeD-0005un-0h for 20090@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 14:09:53 -0500 Received: from E15-2016.optimum.net ([108.6.168.221]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102 [212.227.17.174]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LvzF3-1f9SYm3iQP-017l1Z; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 20:09:46 +0100 Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 14:09:40 -0500 From: Boruch Baum Message-ID: <20171203190840.eqaju3peslti3w6n@E15-2016.optimum.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170609 (1.8.3) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:FFgnUB4GlSLdZoB8HlXPHN5sI7uVdwkVDRQxYGQjHZJqhE+0rr9 iE80ROlpNZIs8cse4Y5VqlkTYpkrVzpg19FgLcdS/zC4YlLj9RBei2B+oRC2FRdcRogXJBE I2PCu3YUAzE4WpM6dwhQPQu/MUbDYklMQVquhVN54/3fXhsEu4tSh/+DGgl8XFqpyTtMOLR 9XE1rfaLKKCK5ky22MUEw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:XIiRtucXgwk=:JMTvVZJ0FVAjCtds8b47Vk UIkQM/PHBpP0zErk9FYSiJrDxAYydiurZ/m2gMvbVPnqzbE8SIG4LTu48TlkpYGQM/ejMygt+ rP3Kv52D0rM034uV6gpz1OSBbiA44cNgokJrb6FvjSyIQY+6N8aVbcdeZ9Prbcu7SdlPcc4Br +dovtRW82CKBWueOpzt45JHTSdq4asQumcN4REeH1dV7gqHl/JltnoLLvM76qnbmDFrqP2rEn K6u1hDwib9nr9vTn8iOUhzpt/JYbQOCEzGHZuZKVK5YmQrakEwkzRW6FoE1bSpU+JG8uWPwwB 5LTZeqL0FKtKes4BaRhlIET4ItoS2NL20s1RNoYrVF/5bsCEdozFo2ba3kmS7tFNsO2vigQYK 8HdVcM9Ct3Pt3LeplzJRvCqIi1ReaVGLesSaVojnNzDUZzCM2xC9GBvNKSkXxHIuT35ktZIGe sqq5uqNS8WJulWZ8kWvpu3i5btDiNSqLXDsv6eTsgFnlFAB6QofoKQYEJdOqbbkyW+2URuj9d QCSWmDxXuugRvhfDx6P/Q34/X8hRcS3xEGY1EHR201RKEdczZgGkQOE3keJ/Sadkb5QqtYqhk zrg6VcZnaqHjYZLiCdZfbsdIj9F+NH6EVcaIVd+vLD5sHq/NUcjWvx3TMbkIEK0o9/Z7xlw4G baN1LniYe26aafjqnXERC4bz1GPVzIBQZdDg43p+oQw7V276YCDe+7/AZ05Idg/4LLI4PkSAi +P3C85QzKcIQN8fXYnrmrNcJAzdA8oMCD6feaRn4V3f1IP5hulRqQmaiOtHMN6f64tm0YNWRb iGBC4SErCmj35GNrQrTlS2eK3x9Dw== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Bug report 20090 was perfunctorily closed today: 1] without the person who performed the action consulting with the bug reporter; 2] without any discussion for over 2.5 years; 3] with a reason given that demonstrates that the person who performed the action didn't give the action much of any thought; In this particular case, the person who closed the bug apparently looked at the sentence fragment 'does not work for positions within an info node (eg. line 85 of node x)', and confused the term `eg' with the term 'ie'. At this point, emacs is uniquely inferior to all major 'word processors' in that it does not support the feature described in the bug, ie. the ability to link to a specific position within a document. Pretty basic, no? -- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0 From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:35:02 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#20090: improperly closed Resent-From: Nicolas Goaziou Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 21:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20090 X-GNU-PR-Package: org-mode X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Boruch Baum Cc: 20090@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 20090-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20090.151233609024378 (code B ref 20090); Sun, 03 Dec 2017 21:22:02 +0000 Received: (at 20090) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Dec 2017 21:21:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43888 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eLbha-0006L8-Gw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 16:21:30 -0500 Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]:56653) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eLbhX-0006Kz-SJ for 20090@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 16:21:28 -0500 Received: from saiph.selenimh (000043010000000000000469.ipv6.commingeshautdebit.fr [IPv6:2a03:a0a0:0:4301::469]) (Authenticated sender: mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DC5341720A1; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 22:21:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from ngz by saiph.selenimh with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eLbhT-0001TA-RL; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 22:21:23 +0100 From: Nicolas Goaziou In-Reply-To: <20171203190840.eqaju3peslti3w6n@E15-2016.optimum.net> (Boruch Baum's message of "Sun, 3 Dec 2017 14:09:40 -0500") References: <5500BF9E.7010608@gmx.com> <20171203190840.eqaju3peslti3w6n@E15-2016.optimum.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 22:21:23 +0100 Message-ID: <87d13va4oc.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Boruch Baum writes: > Bug report 20090 was perfunctorily closed today: > 1] without the person who performed the action consulting with the bug > reporter; You're free to re-open the bug or create another one if you disagree. For the record, I don't consider this to be a bug, but a feature request. > 2] without any discussion for over 2.5 years; I hope you are not blaming me for that. > 3] with a reason given that demonstrates that the person who performed > the action didn't give the action much of any thought; Yet, I gave it more thought than anyone in 2.5 years! > In this particular case, the person who closed the bug apparently looked > at the sentence fragment 'does not work for positions within an info node (eg. > line 85 of node x)', and confused the term `eg' with the term 'ie'. How nice. > At this point, emacs is uniquely inferior to all major 'word processors' > in that it does not support the feature described in the bug, ie. the > ability to link to a specific position within a document. > > Pretty basic, no? Pretty inaccurate, actually. Org is able to link to a specific position within an Org document, and to a specific line in any plain text document. Your feature request is to link to a specific position in a document written in a foreign, processed format, namely Info. I cannot think of any reliable way to do so (e.g., "going to the node, and searching for a string" doesn't qualify as "reliable"). If you have an idea about it, I suggest to first implement it as a custom link type, and open a proper feature request, or report it on the Org mailing list. Another option is to wait for 2.5 years again and despise the next person to close this report. Regards,