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Bug report: 24.4; Visual clutter from the fringe on reliably happens when moving the window

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From: Peeter Tinits <peeter.tinits <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Bug report: 24.4; Visual clutter from the fringe on reliably happens
 when moving the window
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 16:47:13 +0200

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Dear Emacs admins,

I've encountered a minor bug that may have some recurrence with emacs,
although I suspect that this has much more to do with Windows 7 + graphics
drivers/hardware that I have. I haven't seen this issue with any other
software though.

It is described in more detail here.
http://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/9942/visual-clutter-on-the-left-edge


I also have the bug report typed out while there was clutter on the window
on emacs -Q startup, however I don't think it will be very useful. I first
thought it may have something to do with file size, but now it seems that
that is not important.

Many thanks, and keep up the good work!

Peeter




From: kasutaja <at> KASUTAJA-PC.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.4; Visual clutter from the fringe on reliably happens when
moving the window
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In GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
 of 2014-10-24 on LEG570
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
Configured using:
 `configure --prefix=/c/usr'

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: ETI
  locale-coding-system: cp1257

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
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Recent messages:
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
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c:/Users/kasutaja/emacs-24.4/share/emacs/24.4/lisp/progmodes/flymake

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Message #8 received at 20085 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Peeter Tinits <peeter.tinits <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 20085 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#20085: Bug report: 24.4;
 Visual clutter from the fringe on reliably happens when moving
 the	window
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:33:06 +0200

> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 16:47:13 +0200
> From: Peeter Tinits <peeter.tinits <at> gmail.com>
> 
> I've encountered a minor bug that may have some recurrence with emacs, although
> I suspect that this has much more to do with Windows 7 + graphics
> drivers/hardware that I have. I haven't seen this issue with any other software
> though.
> 
> It is described in more detail here.
> http://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/9942/visual-clutter-on-the-left-edge

Please in the future post the relevant details here.  We don't want to
depend on availability of other sites for bug descriptions.

I see nothing Emacs-related in the snapshot you've shown.  I'm pretty
sure it's a problem with your system's setup.  Two things I suggest to
try is (a) disable ClearType if you enabled it, and (b) try switching
your video driver to lower level of optimization.

Message #11 received at 20085 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Peeter Tinits <peeter.tinits <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 20085 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#20085: Bug report: 24.4;
 Visual clutter from the fringe on reliably happens when moving the
 window
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 21:15:03 +0200

> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 20:49:12 +0200
> From: Peeter Tinits <peeter.tinits <at> gmail.com>
> 
> I tried to see if i have ClearType enabled, but I only managed to check my
> registry as instructed here
> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Windows-Fonts.html .
> As I haven't changed
> anything, I'd assume that Emacs 24.4 Windows 7 default does not use ClearType. 

This URL:

   http://www.thewindowsclub.com/disable-font-smoothing-windows

explains how to disable ClearType, if you have it enabled.

> I couldn't figure out the way to decrease the optimization level on my video
> driver either.

In the Display Properties, select Settings, and click Advanced.  You
should be presented with the settings specific to your graphics
driver.  Usually somewhere on the Troubleshoot tab you should see a
way to control the hardware acceleration level; try to lower it.

Message #14 received at 20085 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 20085 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Peeter Tinits <peeter.tinits <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#20085: Bug report: 24.4;
 Visual clutter from the fringe on reliably happens when moving the
 window
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 19:15:09 +0100

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 20:49:12 +0200
>> From: Peeter Tinits <peeter.tinits <at> gmail.com>
>> 
>> I tried to see if i have ClearType enabled, but I only managed to check my
>> registry as instructed here
>> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Windows-Fonts.html .
>> As I haven't changed
>> anything, I'd assume that Emacs 24.4 Windows 7 default does not use ClearType. 
>
> This URL:
>
>    http://www.thewindowsclub.com/disable-font-smoothing-windows
>
> explains how to disable ClearType, if you have it enabled.
>
>> I couldn't figure out the way to decrease the optimization level on my video
>> driver either.
>
> In the Display Properties, select Settings, and click Advanced.  You
> should be presented with the settings specific to your graphics
> driver.  Usually somewhere on the Troubleshoot tab you should see a
> way to control the hardware acceleration level; try to lower it.

Peeter, did these things fix your problems?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #17 received at 20085 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 20085 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Peeter Tinits <peeter.tinits <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#20085: Bug report: 24.4;
 Visual clutter from the fringe on reliably happens when moving the
 window
Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 16:49:11 +1100

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

>> In the Display Properties, select Settings, and click Advanced.  You
>> should be presented with the settings specific to your graphics
>> driver.  Usually somewhere on the Troubleshoot tab you should see a
>> way to control the hardware acceleration level; try to lower it.
>
> Peeter, did these things fix your problems?

More information was requested, but no response was given within a few
months, so I'm closing this bug report.  If the problem still exists,
please reopen this bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #22 received at 20085 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Peeter Tinits <peeter.tinits <at> gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 20085 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#20085: Bug report: 24.4; Visual clutter from the fringe on
 reliably happens when moving the window
Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:25:16 +0200

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Yes, sorry for not responding, I have migrated to a new OS (Win 10) where
the problem no longer occurs. Closing it is a good solution for now.
My final progress in it was recorded in the last message on 11 March 2015.
Thanks for the help!

Best,
Peeter

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> wrote:

> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
>
> >> In the Display Properties, select Settings, and click Advanced.  You
> >> should be presented with the settings specific to your graphics
> >> driver.  Usually somewhere on the Troubleshoot tab you should see a
> >> way to control the hardware acceleration level; try to lower it.
> >
> > Peeter, did these things fix your problems?
>
> More information was requested, but no response was given within a few
> months, so I'm closing this bug report.  If the problem still exists,
> please reopen this bug report.
>
> --
> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
>    bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
>

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