From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:24:00 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#20068 <20068@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#20068 <20068@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.4.91; Too many warnings building Emacs Reply-To: bug#20068 <20068@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2025 22:24:00 +0000 retitle 20068 24.4.91; Too many warnings building Emacs reassign 20068 emacs submitter 20068 nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. 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[134.190.134.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e1sm523523igl.19.2015.03.09.15.59.38 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 09 Mar 2015 15:59:39 -0700 (PDT) From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.4.91; Too many warnings building Emacs Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2015 19:59:36 -0300 Message-ID: <87mw3lhj53.fsf@moondust.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.8 (---) Building the latest Emacs 24.5 pretest (24.4.91) from http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-24.4.91.tar.xz, I get over 150 warnings (list below). This is far too many for the user to be able to check all of them so that they can be confident that they have a good build. Can we reduce the number of warnings? In particular, can we not fix the warnings about references to free variables and about the use of functions not known to be defined? [Also, is the message "No MH variant found on the system" (which for me is issued about 20 times during the build) an error or a warning or just something to be ignored?] #+BEGIN_QUOTE emacs-lisp/byte-run.el:36:1:Warning: `macro-declaration-function' is an obsolete function (as of 24.3); use `macro-declarations-alist' instead. subr.el:32:11:Warning: macro declare-function used to take 2+ arguments, now takes 2-4 files.el:1659:8:Warning: function create-file-buffer used to take 0+ arguments, now takes 1 startup.el:119:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `argi' lacks a prefix minibuffer.el:1679:12:Warning: display-completion-list called with 2 arguments, but accepts only 1 minibuffer.el:1924:62:Warning: `with-wrapper-hook' is an obsolete macro (as of 24.4); use a -function variable modified by `add-function'. minibuffer.el:2878:1:Warning: Unused lexical variable `p1' minibuffer.el:2878:1:Warning: Unused lexical variable `p2' abbrev.el:845:8:Warning: `with-wrapper-hook' is an obsolete macro (as of 24.4); use a -function variable modified by `add-function'. simple.el:3522:52:Warning: `with-wrapper-hook' is an obsolete macro (as of 24.4); use a -function variable modified by `add-function'. mouse.el:94:1:Warning: Unused lexical variable `this-event' emacs-lisp/lisp.el:310:27:Warning: `font-lock-beginning-of-syntax-function' is an obsolete variable (as of 23.3); use `syntax-begin-function' instead. term/w32-win.el:238:15:Warning: reference to free variable `libjpeg-version' term/w32-win.el:254:16:Warning: reference to free variable `libgif-version' emacs-lisp/float-sup.el:31:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `pi' lacks a prefix dired-aux.el:421:29:Warning: reference to free variable `lpr-printer-switch' doc-view.el:1643:16:Warning: `assoc-ignore-case' is an obsolete function (as of 22.1); use `assoc-string' instead. ielm.el:338:1:Warning: Unused lexical argument `err' isearchb.el:78:1:Warning: Package iswitchb is obsolete! pcmpl-gnu.el:162:47:Warning: `pcomplete-suffix-list' is an obsolete variable (as of 24.1). ses.el:3558:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `row' lacks a prefix ses.el:3559:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `col' lacks a prefix wid-edit.el:3320:1:Warning: Unused lexical argument `data' textmodes/sgml-mode.el:408:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `v2' lacks a prefix calc/calc.el:3923:1:Warning: the function `math-zerop' is not known to be defined. org/org-clock.el:1069:13:Warning: call-process-shell-command called with 6 arguments, but accepts only 1-4 org/org.el:24013:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at runtime: easy-menu-add, format-spec org/org-gnus.el:301:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at runtime: gnus-summary-goto-subject, gnus-summary-select-article, message-narrow-to-headers, message-generate-headers, message-unquote-tokens, message-tokenize-header, gnus-activate-group, gnus-find-method-for-group, gnus-group-read-group, gnus-summary-goto-article, gnus-group-jump-to-group org/org-mouse.el:218:18:Warning: `redisplay-dont-pause' is an obsolete variable (as of 24.5). org/org-src.el:959:1:Warning: the function `org-some' is not known to be defined. emulation/cua-base.el:1454:1:Warning: the function `delete-active-region' is not known to be defined. emacs-lisp/cl-extra.el:577:28:Warning: Unused lexical argument `def' emacs-lisp/cl-macs.el:2900:1:Warning: the function `cl--wrap-in-nil-block' is not known to be defined. emacs-lisp/eieio.el:558:40:Warning: function `cl--gv-adapt' from cl package called at runtime emacs-lisp/eieio.el:963:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at runtime: gv--defsetter, cl--gv-adapt emacs-lisp/ewoc.el:501:1:Warning: Unused lexical variable `dll' emacs-lisp/package.el:293:53:Warning: reference to free variable `epg-gpg-program' eshell/em-alias.el:217:1:Warning: Unused lexical argument `args' eshell/em-cmpl.el:271:8:Warning: `pcomplete-suffix-list' is an obsolete variable (as of 24.1). eshell/em-dirs.el:186:1:Warning: Unused lexical argument `args' eshell/em-dirs.el:302:1:Warning: Unused lexical argument `args' eshell/em-rebind.el:225:49:Warning: `delete-backward-char' is for interactive use only; use `delete-char' instead. eshell/em-script.el:60:1:Warning: Unused lexical argument `args' eshell/em-tramp.el:97:1:Warning: Unused lexical variable `args' eshell/em-unix.el:929:1:Warning: Unused lexical variable `args' eshell/em-unix.el:959:1:Warning: Unused lexical argument `args' eshell/esh-mode.el:611:1:Warning: Unused lexical argument `err' eshell/esh-proc.el:161:1:Warning: Unused lexical argument `args' eshell/esh-var.el:346:1:Warning: Unused lexical variable `args' mail/mailalias.el:55:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `pattern' lacks a prefix mail/mailheader.el:102:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `headers' lacks a prefix mail/supercite.el:709:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `curline' lacks a prefix net/net-utils.el:918:1:Warning: the function `w32-get-console-output-codepage' is not known to be defined. gnus/message.el:1890:1:Warning: `make-variable-buffer-local' not called at toplevel gnus/message.el:5926:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `Date' lacks a prefix gnus/message.el:5928:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `Organization' lacks a prefix gnus/message.el:5929:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `From' lacks a prefix gnus/message.el:5930:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `Path' lacks a prefix gnus/message.el:5931:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `Subject' lacks a prefix gnus/message.el:5932:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `Newsgroups' lacks a prefix gnus/message.el:5934:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `References' lacks a prefix gnus/message.el:5935:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `To' lacks a prefix gnus/message.el:5936:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `Distribution' lacks a prefix gnus/message.el:5937:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `Lines' lacks a prefix gnus/message.el:5939:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `Expires' lacks a prefix gnus/mm-uu.el:339:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `entry' lacks a prefix gnus/mm-view.el:752:1:Warning: the function `epg-decrypt-string' is not known to be defined. gnus/nnmail.el:1960:31:Warning: `rmail-dont-reply-to-names' is an obsolete variable (as of 24.1); use `mail-dont-reply-to-names' instead. progmodes/cc-bytecomp.el:427:1:Warning: the function `byte-compile-obsolete' is not known to be defined. progmodes/cc-defs.el:2270:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at runtime: cc-bytecomp-restore-environment, cc-bytecomp-setup-environment, cc-bytecomp-is-compiling, cc-bytecomp-load progmodes/cc-vars.el:1769:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at runtime: cc-bytecomp-load, cc-bytecomp-is-compiling, cc-bytecomp-restore-environment progmodes/cc-langs.el:3273:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at runtime: cc-bytecomp-load, cc-bytecomp-restore-environment progmodes/cc-engine.el:11071:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at runtime: cc-bytecomp-load, cc-bytecomp-is-compiling, cc-bytecomp-restore-environment progmodes/cc-align.el:1337:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at runtime: cc-bytecomp-load, cc-bytecomp-restore-environment progmodes/cc-awk.el:1151:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at runtime: cc-bytecomp-load, cc-bytecomp-is-compiling, cc-bytecomp-restore-environment progmodes/cc-cmds.el:4731:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at runtime: cc-bytecomp-load, cc-bytecomp-is-compiling, cc-bytecomp-restore-environment progmodes/cc-fonts.el:235:49:Warning: `make-variable-buffer-local' not called at toplevel progmodes/cc-fonts.el:2725:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at runtime: cc-bytecomp-load, cc-bytecomp-restore-environment, cc-bytecomp-setup-environment, cc-bytecomp-is-compiling progmodes/cc-guess.el:576:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at runtime: cc-bytecomp-load, cc-bytecomp-restore-environment progmodes/cc-menus.el:525:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at runtime: cc-bytecomp-load, cc-bytecomp-is-compiling, cc-bytecomp-restore-environment progmodes/cc-styles.el:667:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at runtime: cc-bytecomp-load, cc-bytecomp-is-compiling, cc-bytecomp-restore-environment progmodes/cc-mode.el:105:21:Warning: `font-lock-syntactic-keywords' is an obsolete variable (as of 24.1); use `syntax-propertize-function' instead. progmodes/cc-mode.el:158:53:Warning: (lambda nil ...) quoted with ' rather than with #' progmodes/cc-mode.el:159:53:Warning: (lambda nil ...) quoted with ' rather than with #' progmodes/cc-mode.el:159:53:Warning: (lambda nil ...) quoted with ' rather than with #' progmodes/cc-mode.el:160:53:Warning: (lambda nil ...) quoted with ' rather than with #' progmodes/cc-mode.el:161:53:Warning: (lambda nil ...) quoted with ' rather than with #' progmodes/cc-mode.el:161:53:Warning: (lambda nil ...) quoted with ' rather than with #' progmodes/cc-mode.el:162:53:Warning: (lambda nil ...) quoted with ' rather than with #' progmodes/cc-mode.el:163:53:Warning: (lambda nil ...) quoted with ' rather than with #' progmodes/cc-mode.el:164:53:Warning: (lambda nil ...) quoted with ' rather than with #' progmodes/cc-mode.el:1796:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at runtime: cc-bytecomp-load, cc-bytecomp-is-compiling, cc-bytecomp-restore-environment, cc-bytecomp-setup-environment, c-populate-syntax-table progmodes/cfengine.el:1241:20:Warning: call-process-shell-command called with 6 arguments, but accepts only 1-4 progmodes/cperl-mode.el:2282:22:Warning: `delete-backward-char' is for interactive use only; use `delete-char' instead. progmodes/cperl-mode.el:2284:21:Warning: `delete-backward-char' is for interactive use only; use `delete-char' instead. progmodes/cperl-mode.el:2590:42:Warning: `delete-backward-char' is for interactive use only; use `delete-char' instead. progmodes/gdb-mi.el:675:1:Warning: Unused lexical argument `arg' progmodes/idlw-shell.el:4658:1:Warning: the function `comint-filter' is not known to be defined. progmodes/vhdl-mode.el:2128:1:Warning: Package assoc is obsolete! calendar/appt.el:548:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `number' lacks a prefix calendar/cal-bahai.el:348:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `date' lacks a prefix calendar/cal-china.el:677:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `date' lacks a prefix calendar/cal-coptic.el:182:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `date' lacks a prefix calendar/cal-french.el:255:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `date' lacks a prefix calendar/cal-hebrew.el:807:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `date' lacks a prefix calendar/cal-hebrew.el:815:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `entry' lacks a prefix calendar/cal-islam.el:334:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `date' lacks a prefix calendar/cal-iso.el:147:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `date' lacks a prefix calendar/cal-julian.el:203:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `date' lacks a prefix calendar/cal-mayan.el:383:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `date' lacks a prefix calendar/cal-persia.el:210:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `date' lacks a prefix calendar/diary-lib.el:762:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `number' lacks a prefix calendar/diary-lib.el:1897:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `date' lacks a prefix calendar/diary-lib.el:1898:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `entry' lacks a prefix calendar/lunar.el:251:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `date' lacks a prefix calendar/solar.el:898:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `date' lacks a prefix leim/quail/hangul.el:353:32:Warning: `delete-backward-char' is for interactive use only; use `delete-char' instead. leim/quail/hangul.el:368:26:Warning: `delete-backward-char' is for interactive use only; use `delete-char' instead. obsolete/cc-compat.el:166:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at runtime: cc-bytecomp-load, cc-bytecomp-restore-environment obsolete/complete.el:836:33:Warning: `completion-base-size' is an obsolete variable (as of 23.2); use `completion-base-position' instead. obsolete/otodo-mode.el:928:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `date' lacks a prefix obsolete/otodo-mode.el:929:1:Warning: global/dynamic var `entry' lacks a prefix obsolete/vip.el:1859:17:Warning: `delete-backward-char' is for interactive use only; use `delete-char' instead. erc/erc.el:1717:9:Warning: `iswitchb-mode' is an obsolete function (as of 24.4); use `icomplete-mode' or `ido-mode' instead. erc/erc.el:1720:17:Warning: `iswitchb-mode' is an obsolete function (as of 24.4); use `icomplete-mode' or `ido-mode' instead. erc/erc.el:5369:27:Warning: global/dynamic var `str' lacks a prefix play/dunnet.el:1203:22:Warning: `end-of-buffer' is for interactive use only; use `(goto-char (point-max))' instead. cedet/srecode/srt-wy.el:287:13:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/srecode/srt-wy.el:312:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at runtime: semantic-tag-make-plist, semantic--tag-expand, semantic--tag-put-property cedet/semantic/complete.el:2227:26:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/complete.el:2232:26:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/db.el:711:22:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/db.el:714:13:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/db-find.el:348:61:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/db-find.el:513:54:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/db-find.el:1132:47:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/db-find.el:1148:24:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/grammar.el:99:13:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/idle.el:274:18:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/idle.el:265:65:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/idle.el:280:9:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/idle.el:378:37:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/idle.el:448:24:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/idle.el:922:34:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/lex.el:1446:13:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/lex.el:1458:13:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/bovine/c.el:753:13:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/bovine/c.el:792:13:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/bovine/el.el:39:13:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/bovine/make.el:68:13:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/bovine/scm.el:80:13:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer *Warning* default value of <> tokens changed to QUERY, was NULL_TOKEN *Warning* default value of <> tokens changed to TRUE, was QUERY *Warning* default value of <> tokens changed to FALSE, was TRUE Grammar in javascript.el contains 2 useless nonterminals and 4 useless rules cedet/semantic/wisent/javat-wy.el:665:13:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/wisent/js-wy.el:506:13:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer cedet/semantic/wisent/python.el:320:13:Warning: Use `with-current-buffer' rather than save-excursion+set-buffer #+END_QUOTE In GNU Emacs 24.4.91.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.9) of 2015-03-09 on moondust Windowing system distributor `Fedora Project', version 11.0.11603000 System Description: Fedora release 21 (Twenty One) Configured using: `configure --prefix=/home/nlj/local/ --enable-checking 'CFLAGS=-O0 -g3 -ggdb'' Important settings: value of $LC_MONETARY: en_DK.utf8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: en_DK.utf8 value of $LC_TIME: en_DK.utf8 value of $LANG: en_CA.utf8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Group Minor modes in effect: gnus-undo-mode: t TeX-PDF-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t recentf-mode: t display-battery-mode: t display-time-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t savehist-mode: t iswitchb-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t cua-mode: t tooltip-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t size-indication-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t global-visual-line-mode: t visual-line-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent messages: Checking new news... 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case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind gfilenotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 483194 54947) (symbols 48 58426 122) (miscs 40 6130 5148) (strings 32 117753 13377) (string-bytes 1 4020854) (vectors 16 41991) (vector-slots 8 797551 11666) (floats 8 368 1048) (intervals 56 1809 393) (buffers 960 66) (heap 1024 83458 8439)) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 09 20:31:13 2015 Received: (at 20068) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Mar 2015 00:31:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41032 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YV84m-0003JK-Pq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 20:31:13 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:49867 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YV84k-0003GW-6s for 20068@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 20:31:10 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YV84i-0002xk-8I; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 20:31:08 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) Subject: Re: bug#20068: 24.4.91; Too many warnings building Emacs References: <87mw3lhj53.fsf@moondust.localdomain> X-Spook: ANZUS quiche Chobetsu spies USCOI Treasury MIT-LL UMTS X-Ran: z96DmfnVgl48DK1#n<21rhfT~Y>Z*z_H9TDJ\xSqpd?qEbkSnPlJ/lr5,s9rSb`E>bpTQa X-Hue: red X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2015 20:31:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87mw3lhj53.fsf@moondust.localdomain> (N. Jackson's message of "Mon, 09 Mar 2015 19:59:36 -0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20068 Cc: 20068@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) If you get that many warnings, you must be doing a bootstrap, which is unnecessary and not the documented procedure for building (pre)releases. Following the build instructions gets you 37 warnings, which should drop to zero with Emacs 25.1 tarfiles where no lisp files should be recompiled. So for pretests this issue is already nonexistent/solved. If you bootstrap or build from a VCS checkout then yes, you get a lot of warnings. History shows that no, we cannot meaningfully reduce the number. New classes of warnings get added faster than the existing ones can be removed. And in some cases the desire to be compatible with multiple Emacs versions makes warnings inevitable (without excessive jumping through hoops). We are all aware the warnings exist, I don't think a bug report about it will make them go away. Lisp compilation errors are never (good enough) platform specific and can always be ignored by non-developers. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 09 20:31:48 2015 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Mar 2015 00:31:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41038 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YV85L-0003qT-Ii for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 20:31:48 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:49873 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YV85I-0003oE-TK for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 20:31:45 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YV85I-0003Od-Jo for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 20:31:44 -0400 Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2015 20:31:44 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 20068 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) severity 20068 wishlist tag 20068 notabug wontfix From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 10 01:46:20 2015 Received: (at 20068) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Mar 2015 05:46:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41122 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YVCzk-0006TD-1y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 01:46:20 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:43312) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YVCzh-0006Ss-7x for 20068@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 01:46:18 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NKZ00I00EJDIT00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 20068@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 07:46:10 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NKZ00IOVEOYAJB0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 07:46:10 +0200 (IST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 07:45:59 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#20068: 24.4.91; Too many warnings building Emacs In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Message-id: <83egox5rs8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87mw3lhj53.fsf@moondust.localdomain> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20068 Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, 20068@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Glenn Morris > Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2015 20:31:08 -0400 > Cc: 20068@debbugs.gnu.org > > > If you get that many warnings, you must be doing a bootstrap No, he isn't. A small number of Lisp files are byte-compiled when building a release tarball (this was fixed by you on master, I think), and the files he mentions are those. > Lisp compilation errors are never (good enough) platform specific and > can always be ignored by non-developers. Indeed, in this case I looked at the reported warnings and saw nothing grave there, I'm quite sure I saw the same warnings when I built the pretest. 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[71.7.145.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o1sm2299881igv.18.2015.03.11.04.47.59 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 11 Mar 2015 04:48:01 -0700 (PDT) From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. Jackson) To: 20068-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#20068: 24.4.91; Too many warnings building Emacs References: <87mw3lhj53.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <83egox5rs8.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 08:47:58 -0300 In-Reply-To: <83egox5rs8.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 10 Mar 2015 07:45:59 +0200") Message-ID: <87lhj3ycup.fsf@moondust.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 20068-done Cc: Glenn Morris , Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) At 02:45 -0300 on Tuesday 2015-03-10, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Glenn Morris >> >> If you get that many warnings, you must be doing a bootstrap > > No, he isn't. A small number of Lisp files are byte-compiled when > building a release tarball (this was fixed by you on master, I think), > and the files he mentions are those. Glen is right, actually. I neglected to read the README and INSTALL files (Sorry. I've read them now.) and, instead, I just used my usual build recipe which includes a bootstrap. Rebuilding with a bare make after a fresh extraction from the tarball, I get 37 warnings which is much less overwhelming than than 158! >> Lisp compilation errors are never (good enough) platform specific and >> can always be ignored by non-developers. > > Indeed, in this case I looked at the reported warnings and saw nothing > grave there, I'm quite sure I saw the same warnings when I built the > pretest. Well if nothing can reasonably be done about any of the warnings that's unfortunate, of course, since it cheapens their value, but it's just one of those things I suppose. I'm closing this. Thank you for Emacs. 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