From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:09:42 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#19838 <19838@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#19838 <19838@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 25.0.50; incompatible change not documented Reply-To: bug#19838 <19838@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 06:09:42 +0000 retitle 19838 25.0.50; incompatible change not documented reassign 19838 emacs submitter 19838 Drew Adams severity 19838 minor tag 19838 wontfix thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 11 13:41:03 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2015 18:41:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40327 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YLcDe-0006Ht-M2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:41:03 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58046) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YLcDc-0006HD-IU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:41:01 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLcDS-0005qc-6W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:40:55 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:52189) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLcDR-0005qW-Rn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:40:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59766) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLcDM-00026G-Mw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:40:49 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLcDG-0005os-Bj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:40:44 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:32107) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLcDG-0005oo-3b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:40:38 -0500 Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t1BIead8007085 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 18:40:37 GMT Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t1BIeaR1010240 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 18:40:36 GMT Received: from abhmp0007.oracle.com (abhmp0007.oracle.com [141.146.116.13]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t1BIeZ74002840 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 18:40:36 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 10:40:35 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.0.50; incompatible change not documented X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Emacs 24.3 apparently removed command `bookmark-insert-current-bookmark' (and so removed its keybinding in `bookmark-minibuffer-read-name-map'. That's too bad. But this bug report is about not documenting this incompatible change. Nothing in the Emacs 24.3 (or later) NEWS about it. You should not just remove user-level things like commands without letting users know. In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-10-20 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 118168 rgm@gnu.org-20141020195941-icp42t8ttcnud09g Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs CPPFLAGS=3D-DGLYPH_DEBUG=3D1' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 30 13:08:40 2016 Received: (at 19838) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2016 17:08:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58186 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awYNk-0001IO-9V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:08:40 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:58738) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awYNi-0001IG-6O for 19838@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:08:38 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awYNf-0004hT-MH; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 19:08:37 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#19838: 25.0.50; incompatible change not documented References: Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 19:08:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 11 Feb 2015 10:40:35 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <8737q3gh2k.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19838 Cc: 19838@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Drew Adams writes: > Emacs 24.3 apparently removed command `bookmark-insert-current-bookmark' > (and so removed its keybinding in `bookmark-minibuffer-read-name-map'. > > That's too bad. But this bug report is about not documenting this > incompatible change. Nothing in the Emacs 24.3 (or later) NEWS about > it. > > You should not just remove user-level things like commands without > letting users know. Too late now, anyway. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 30 13:08:44 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2016 17:08:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58189 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awYNo-0001If-H7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:08:44 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:58745) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awYNm-0001IX-W6 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:08:43 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awYNk-0004hb-TL for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 19:08:42 +0200 Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 19:08:40 +0200 Message-Id: <871t5ngh2f.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #19838 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tags 19838 wontfix close 19838 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 30 13:57:38 2016 Received: (at 19838) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2016 17:57:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58265 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awZ98-0005nt-79 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:57:38 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:47575) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awZ95-0005ng-PZ for 19838@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 13:57:36 -0400 Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u3UHvUWt023508 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:57:30 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3UHvTjJ029290 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:57:30 GMT Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3UHvRmi013603; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 17:57:28 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <377024bf-b646-49df-8861-af2e700e1f52@default> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 09:57:26 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Drew Adams To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: RE: bug#19838: 25.0.50; incompatible change not documented References: <8737q3gh2k.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <8737q3gh2k.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19838 Cc: 19838@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > > Emacs 24.3 apparently removed command `bookmark-insert-current-bookmark= ' > > (and so removed its keybinding in `bookmark-minibuffer-read-name-map'. > > > > That's too bad. But this bug report is about not documenting this > > incompatible change. Nothing in the Emacs 24.3 (or later) NEWS about > > it. > > > > You should not just remove user-level things like commands without > > letting users know. >=20 > Too late now, anyway. No, it's not too late. We distribute the NEWS for older releases too. NEWS should reflect changes for a release. Users should be able to find what got changed and when, by consulting NEWS for different releases. From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:09:42 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 11:24:08 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator