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23.0.60; gnus writes customize file

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Message #5 received at submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: trentbuck <at> gmail.com
To: emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org
Cc: rfrancoise <at> debian.org
Subject: 23.0.60; gnus writes customize file
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:11:45 -0800 (PST)

When using gnus, I find that it tries to write out my customize
preferences whenever I send a message.  This is bloody annoying, as
.emacs is version-controlled, and I do not *have* any
customize-managed preferences.

| Wrote /home/twb/News/drafts/drafts/1
| Mark set
| Sending...
| Wrote /home/twb/.Auto/.emacs.d/custom-sucks.el
| Sending news via news.gmane.org using nntp...
| Sending...done
| Deleting article /home/twb/News/drafts/drafts/1 in drafts...

To stop gnus messing with my .emacs, I have the following in .emacs:

| (setq custom-file "~/.emacs.d/custom-sucks.el") ; this is never load-file'd

...but it's still annoying from an aesthetic standpoint.

The custom-sucks.el file written by gnus is:

| (custom-set-variables
|   ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom.
|   ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
|   ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
|   ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
|  '(canlock-password "acc239ecbc3348a6f02d22b49ac0743957b28655"))
| (custom-set-faces
|   ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom.
|   ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
|   ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
|   ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
|  )


In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.11)
 of 2009-01-19 on elegiac, modified by Debian
 (emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20090118-1)
configured using `configure  '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--host' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs-snapshot:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/23.0.60/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.0.60/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' 'build_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=5000 -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=-g -Wl,--as-needed' 'CPPFLAGS=''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: C
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_AU.utf8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: rcirc

Minor modes in effect:
  diff-auto-refine-mode: t
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  rcirc-track-minor-mode: t
  savehist-mode: t
  icomplete-mode: t
  partial-completion-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  delete-selection-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  use-hard-newlines: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  global-auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
C-c C-c C-h e C-x ESC O B C-x b # e RET C-c C-c W r 
o t e SPC / h o m e / t w b / N e w s / d r a f t s 
/ d r a f t s / 1 RET M a r k SPC s e t RET S e n d 
i n g . . . RET W r o t e SPC / h o m e / t w b / . 
A u t o / . e m a c s . d / c u s t o m - s u c k s 
. e l ESC < ESC [ 4 ~ ; ESC O B ; ESC O B ESC q ESC 
O C C-q C-j C-d C-d ESC O A C-c C-c RET . . . w h y 
SPC d o e s SPC G N U S SPC ESC b ESC l SPC i n s i 
s t SPC o n SPC w r i t i n g SPC o u t SPC m y SPC 
c u s t o m i z e SPC ESC b ESC b C-e DEL ESC b ESC 
b ESC f ESC b ESC f SPC ( e m p t y ) ESC [ 4 ~ p r 
e f e r e n c e s SPC w h e n e v e r SPC I SPC s e 
n d SPC a SPC f i l e ? ESC b ESC d m e s a DEL s a 
g e RET ESC x r e p o r t SPC e m a c s SPC b u g 
RET

Recent messages:
Mark set [3 times]
Wrote /home/twb/News/drafts/drafts/1
Mark set
Sending...
Wrote /home/twb/.Auto/.emacs.d/custom-sucks.el
Sending news via news.gmane.org using nntp...
Sending...done
Deleting article /home/twb/News/drafts/drafts/1 in drafts...
Type C-c C-c to return text to #emacs <at> irc.freenode.net, or C-c C-k to cancel
Mark set

Message #8 received at 1974 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: trentbuck <at> gmail.com
Cc: 1974 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rfrancoise <at> debian.org
Subject: Re: bug#1974: 23.0.60; gnus writes customize file
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:33:19 -0500

reassign 1974 emacs,gnus
stop

trentbuck <at> gmail.com wrote:

> When using gnus, I find that it tries to write out my customize
> preferences whenever I send a message.  This is bloody annoying, as
> .emacs is version-controlled, and I do not *have* any
> customize-managed preferences.

Why not just check it in after the first time it happens, then forget
about it? It will never happen again. Optionally, first migrate the
canlock-password setting to a setq form, and delete the customize
section.

I don't really see what Gnus could do differently here.

> |  '(canlock-password "..."))

Disable message-insert-canlock if you don't want this (5+ year old?) feature.

See (gnus)Canceling News.

Message #15 received at 1974 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane <at> imap.cc>
To: trentbuck <at> gmail.com
Cc: 1974 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rfrancoise <at> debian.org
Subject: Re: bug#1974: 23.0.60; gnus writes customize file
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:54:11 +0100

On Wed, Jan 21 2009, trentbuck <at> gmail.com wrote:

> When using gnus, I find that it tries to write out my customize
> preferences whenever I send a message.  This is bloody annoying, as
> .emacs is version-controlled, and I do not *have* any
> customize-managed preferences.
[...]
> | (custom-set-variables
[...]
> |  '(canlock-password "acc239ecbc3348a6f02d22b49ac0743957b28655"))

Simply set the cancel lock in your version controlled ~/.emacs or
~/.gnus.el as described in the manual:

,----[ (info "(message)Canceling News") ]
| If you want to manage a password yourself, you can put something
| like the following in your `~/.gnus.el' file:
| 
|      (setq canlock-password "geheimnis"
|            canlock-password-for-verify canlock-password)
`----

Bye, Reiner.
-- 
       ,,,
      (o o)
---ooO-(_)-Ooo---  |  PGP key available  |  http://rsteib.home.pages.de/

Message #22 received at 1974 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane <at> imap.cc>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 1974 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, trentbuck <at> gmail.com,
        rfrancoise <at> debian.org
Subject: Re: bug#1974: 23.0.60; gnus writes customize file
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:49:42 +0100

On Wed, Jan 21 2009, Glenn Morris wrote:

> I don't really see what Gnus could do differently here.

Agreed.


On Wed, Jan 22 2009, Glenn Morris wrote:
| tags 1974 wontfix notabug

Is wontfix, notabug sufficient or do we need to mark it as done as well?

Bye, Reiner.
-- 
       ,,,
      (o o)
---ooO-(_)-Ooo---  |  PGP key available  |  http://rsteib.home.pages.de/

Message #27 received at 1974 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: "Trent W. Buck" <trentbuck <at> gmail.com>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, 1974 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: rfrancoise <at> debian.org
Subject: Re: bug#1974: 23.0.60; gnus writes customize file
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:25:03 +1100

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 09:33:19PM -0500, Glenn Morris wrote:
>> When using gnus, I find that it tries to write out my customize
>> preferences whenever I send a message.  This is bloody annoying, as
>> .emacs is version-controlled, and I do not *have* any
>> customize-managed preferences.
>
> Disable message-insert-canlock if you don't want this feature.

Sorry for the huge delay in responding.  This approach worked fine.

Message #32 received at 1974 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: "Trent W. Buck" <trentbuck <at> gmail.com>
To: Reiner Steib <Reiner.Steib <at> gmx.de>, 1974 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, rfrancoise <at> debian.org
Subject: Re: bug#1974: 23.0.60; gnus writes customize file
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:27:26 +1100

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:49:42PM +0100, Reiner Steib wrote:
>> tags 1974 wontfix notabug
> Is wontfix, notabug sufficient or do we need to mark it as done as well?

In Debian, at least, the convention seems to be to leave wontfix
tickets open, so that they are visible to other bug reporters.  Closed
bugs get archived after a time, so they wouldn't be listed in
reportbug / querybts.

Message #37 received at 1974-close <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: 1974-close <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#1974: 23.0.60; gnus writes customize file
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:31:02 -0800

Closing this non-bug.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi <at> gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

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