From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 16 11:51:18 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jan 2015 16:51:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59482 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YCA7B-0000iO-Vk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 11:51:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60483) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YC7X5-0004PR-VT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 09:05:52 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YC7Wz-0000wL-JZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 09:05:46 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:51909) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YC7Wz-0000wH-Go for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 09:05:45 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33971) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YC7Wy-0003MW-KF for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 09:05:45 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YC7Wx-0000vx-Hx for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 09:05:44 -0500 Received: from mail-ob0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22b]:37733) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YC7Wx-0000vr-CV for bug-guix@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 09:05:43 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f171.google.com with SMTP id va2so9103604obc.2 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 06:05:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CL4Gaa7+ZRBkob9aaZvB3f5t+noO6fRnZ0Y4BxWDTF8=; b=Vvq9sqnUNstp0dsR0RB5uk0y3bvmBwdvcSwj0JJL3+HYIv9/tGxvqHPX5QDoj2sLD+ /KH06fvhlX4Kzd42JRK097yzuDXyLoLhBQKEygruS8KNWlAZb0o+5RCLcA0MtqVCxAu7 Kp6tsasSDDffAw3gmWoaJP8PzoCN/dFMVrfzNUU5rzeI0j+xihRmEgi+bIIP1yioZn7z kOunxtWiqUyst/CjziZDXvCZNKmFI9XzulReuubPXfApzH7Ttb8g/R8Gz38zzxYm7EkZ +lhyx+k36ir8+4zZy8uB1xCfrFD6X4T0OD+5pXtp4nV6MmB8p8tx4aA6BZfSJ1vG+VIY 8Sgw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.178.135 with SMTP id cy7mr9539458oec.66.1421417142563; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 06:05:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.152.37 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 06:05:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 15:05:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: ftp 404 From: Vince Zd To: bug-guix@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01177c1ddc3a2e050cc577c5 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 11:51:16 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) --089e01177c1ddc3a2e050cc577c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi all, I wanted to try guix on my Debian, but I can't even download the sources at the page given by the documentation at savannah, i.e. http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/guix/ It's been more than a week already. Will it soon be back ? regards Vincent --089e01177c1ddc3a2e050cc577c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
I wanted to try guix on my Debian, but I can= 9;t even download the sources at the page given by the documentation at sav= annah, i.e.
http://ftp.gnu.org/= gnu/guix/
It's been more than a week already. Will it soon be ba= ck ?

regards

Vincent
--089e01177c1ddc3a2e050cc577c5-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 16 17:32:39 2015 Received: (at 19618) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jan 2015 22:32:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59572 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YCFRX-0002EW-8A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 17:32:39 -0500 Received: from mail.fsf.org ([208.118.235.13]:41915) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YCFRU-0002EH-TR for 19618@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 17:32:37 -0500 Received: from 209-6-40-86.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([209.6.40.86]:57944 helo=izanagi) by mail.fsf.org with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YCFRP-0001m7-2W; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 17:32:31 -0500 From: David Thompson To: Vince Zd , 19618@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#19618: ftp 404 In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Notmuch/0.18.2 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.4.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 17:32:30 -0500 Message-ID: <877fwmjr0h.fsf@izanagi.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by mail.fsf.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19618 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Hey there! Vince Zd writes: > I wanted to try guix on my Debian, but I can't even download the sources at > the page given by the documentation at savannah, i.e. > http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/guix/ > It's been more than a week already. Will it soon be back ? Guix is alpha software, so source releases are available at , as stated on . Happy hacking! -- David Thompson Web Developer - Free Software Foundation - http://fsf.org GPG Key: 0FF1D807 Support the FSF: https://fsf.org/donate From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 17 05:44:46 2015 Received: (at 19618-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2015 10:44:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59706 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YCQs2-0004mx-7O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 05:44:46 -0500 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([141.255.128.1]:51591) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YCQs0-0004mm-2X for 19618-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 05:44:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68B8452D; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 11:44:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aZs52Apdyyza; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 11:44:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from pluto (reverse-83.fdn.fr [80.67.176.83]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4DEF54527; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 11:44:41 +0100 (CET) From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Vince Zd Subject: Re: bug#19618: ftp 404 References: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 11:44:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Vince Zd's message of "Fri, 16 Jan 2015 15:05:42 +0100") Message-ID: <87twzphejr.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19618-done Cc: 19618-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Vince Zd skribis: > I wanted to try guix on my Debian, but I can't even download the sources = at > the page given by the documentation at savannah, i.e. > http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/guix/ I see that the =E2=80=9CDownload=E2=80=9D menu on goes to that URL. Unfortunately, we cannot change it. The text below on that page has a link to alpha.gnu.org, and so does . Thanks for the report, Ludo=E2=80=99. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 19 10:23:10 2015 Received: (at 19618-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2015 15:23:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33266 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YDEAY-0001Cu-8C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:23:10 -0500 Received: from mail-oi0-f42.google.com ([209.85.218.42]:46809) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YDEAV-0001Cc-Ty for 19618-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:23:08 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-f42.google.com with SMTP id g201so27139321oib.1 for <19618-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 07:23:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=+BGd57u1J8THwp+AXC7zAEMUH3EANgNtCDLkJeAwkzY=; b=JQjaei8wODgHyBVC3PfzYfgtpRWoSd6+dfkWLXduiRyZwZ5K2xYfT1+W8hkfC3Q+RE AppQx2IvBGqQYBS1ezh2tT5MpUWSdJ7Tc2VLV7X/ohWN0P4fId7MY44ig8PntS6ZRR2O 3Aw6Y0dT71qnY5y+PbvpNrBwb0C4QZreLK60UuWotsJ8M4Na5DAoBgs0nxV1Tab5i4yb y4Q7gdcqUamegmk8iXI6Nvq5lcuCHHOS7+wC6av1DYeA9dpQl38HI3zkecfNwONonO2c CeqfHegqRUFtSuW26IUssotWbIp1YRycC+7Xv+FDSefFVloI2KIZfPRNBvkLNF7aSkWu c4eQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.120.36 with SMTP id kz4mr14647739oeb.80.1421680982072; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 07:23:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.152.37 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 07:23:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87twzphejr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87twzphejr.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:23:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#19618: ftp 404 From: Vince Zd Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b339341eba4cd050d02e5e8 X-Spam-Score: 3.1 (+++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Thanks. I was confused because guix and gnu-guix are on the same download page (and I didn't scroll down so I didn't see the guix package), and I was drawn to my mistake because of the screenshot of the guix-based distribution. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Thanks. I was confused because guix and gnu-guix are on the same download page (and I didn't scroll down so I didn't see the guix package), and I was drawn to my mistake because of the screenshot of the guix-based distribution. [...] Content analysis details: (3.1 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (vincezd[at]gmail.com) -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.218.42 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.2 MISSING_HEADERS Missing To: header 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 2.6 MALFORMED_FREEMAIL Bad headers on message from free email service 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid --047d7b339341eba4cd050d02e5e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks. I was confused because guix and gnu-guix are on the same download page (and I didn't scroll down so I didn't see the guix package), and I was drawn to my mistake because of the screenshot of the guix-based distribution. 2015-01-17 11:44 GMT+01:00 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s : > Vince Zd skribis: > > > I wanted to try guix on my Debian, but I can't even download the source= s > at > > the page given by the documentation at savannah, i.e. > > http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/guix/ > > I see that the =E2=80=9CDownload=E2=80=9D menu on goes > to that URL. Unfortunately, we cannot change it. > > The text below on that page has a link to alpha.gnu.org, and so does > . > > Thanks for the report, > Ludo=E2=80=99. > --047d7b339341eba4cd050d02e5e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks. I was confused because guix and gnu-guix are on th= e same download page (and I didn't scroll down so I didn't see the = guix package), and I was drawn to my mistake because of the screenshot of t= he guix-based distribution.


2015-01-17 11:44 GMT+01:00 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s= <lu= do@gnu.org>:
Vince Zd <<= a href=3D"mailto:vincezd@gmail.com">vincezd@gmail.com> skribis:

> I wanted to try guix on my Debian, but I can't even download the s= ources at
> the page given by the documentation at savannah, i.e.
> http://ftp.= gnu.org/gnu/guix/

I see that the =E2=80=9CDownload=E2=80=9D menu on <https://savannah.gnu.org/p/= guix> goes
to that URL.=C2=A0 Unfortunately, we cannot change it.

The text below on that page has a link to alpha.gnu.org, and so does
<http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/#download>.

Thanks for the report,
Ludo=E2=80=99.

--047d7b339341eba4cd050d02e5e8-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 19 15:08:07 2015 Received: (at 19618-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2015 20:08:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49877 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YDIcJ-0004Lw-CX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:08:07 -0500 Received: from [141.255.128.1] (port=54647 helo=hera.aquilenet.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YDIcG-0004LN-Iw for 19618-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:08:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083F23BA9; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:07:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jGvFT98gTKdy; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:07:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from pluto (reverse-83.fdn.fr [80.67.176.83]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A76CF19D7; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:07:55 +0100 (CET) From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: Vince Zd Subject: Re: bug#19618: ftp 404 References: <87twzphejr.fsf@gnu.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 30 =?utf-8?Q?Niv=C3=B4se?= an 223 de la =?utf-8?Q?R?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 83C4 F8E5 10A3 3B4C 5BEA D15D 77DD 95E2 EA52 ECF4 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:07:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Vince Zd's message of "Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:23:02 +0100") Message-ID: <87iog2zg84.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 2.2 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Vince Zd skribis: > Thanks. I was confused because guix and gnu-guix are on the same download > page (and I didn't scroll down so I didn't see the guix package), and I was > drawn to my mistake because of the screenshot of the guix-based > distribution. [...] Content analysis details: (2.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19618-done Cc: 19618-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 2.2 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Vince Zd skribis: > Thanks. I was confused because guix and gnu-guix are on the same download > page (and I didn't scroll down so I didn't see the guix package), and I was > drawn to my mistake because of the screenshot of the guix-based > distribution. [...] Content analysis details: (2.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS Vince Zd skribis: > Thanks. I was confused because guix and gnu-guix are on the same download > page (and I didn't scroll down so I didn't see the guix package), and I w= as > drawn to my mistake because of the screenshot of the guix-based > distribution. =E2=80=9CGuix=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CGNU Guix=E2=80=9D really refer to the s= ame project. We write =E2=80=9CGNU Guix=E2=80=9D to emphasize that Guix is part of the GNU Projec= t. Thanks for your feedback, Ludo=E2=80=99. From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:32:48 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator