From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:17:39 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#19617 <19617@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#19617 <19617@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: bug in split Reply-To: bug#19617 <19617@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:17:39 +0000 retitle 19617 bug in split reassign 19617 coreutils submitter 19617 Tim Stamp severity 19617 normal tag 19617 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 16 11:51:06 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jan 2015 16:51:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59480 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YCA70-0000hz-0M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 11:51:06 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59126) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YC30L-0004Bu-OX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 04:15:46 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YC30C-0003fO-0w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 04:15:40 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:46161) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YC30B-0003fK-Ts for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 04:15:35 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60809) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YC306-0004eU-Lq for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 04:15:35 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YC301-0003dk-NS for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 04:15:30 -0500 Received: from mail-wg0-f44.google.com ([74.125.82.44]:60029) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YC301-0003dd-Gk for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 04:15:25 -0500 Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id y19so19409835wgg.3 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 01:15:24 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from :to:content-type; bh=9chLpKfmo4Wq4o26AtzzCZf3Zd7cGzTaqvJXKpktabQ=; b=bPgyRbSlDxoeJ0+tEksOwdb3KhIxZycRkBwC8NOVjdj+0gA9SXWQLnFud1NROR9Mg/ 6IDWr8x3W1t+MrbChoQ5wWU3gM4OFkpOc0GZVjmIgjnnc8H/V652egVcMdsu2bDKKdnp ElPfW3QLc53R3gT2OmXtc+kKMSPoabs2owBPO8FHslqvE9poMzTy38unaQPgM+cS/sXE 1uVy1fgHc3Tsq344DIq7EJNnEPQ7yVZ3Lj0ZE/uKvc+8mV0jfCEPNSQmF/Ak6U/nmKKM /1zPyi+1+gm4F1eT7NK/+nUPgg7yyXQZFI0adKc25Oq/lH0E4lAveDIlNrIWK6sp75Pg 9WrQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlQRxlMzP9+T1IIkcwNeKZ2lrNy9mmTDE9EpV2AMRVZc4SBbLdht0WzP8X3/bcNJq9kVsbR MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.83.42 with SMTP id n10mr4283402wiy.54.1421399723897; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 01:15:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.109.46 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 01:15:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 09:15:23 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: HY193ptSaQXRggwhckXdCD_-abM Message-ID: Subject: bug in split From: Tim Stamp To: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044283b8a0acbb050cc1699c X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 11:51:04 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) --f46d044283b8a0acbb050cc1699c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Good morning, I noticed that the split command doesn't update the file modified time of the destination split files as it writes to them, it only updates the file modified time when the split completes. Is this a known issue? Cheers, Tim --f46d044283b8a0acbb050cc1699c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good morning,

I noticed that the split = command doesn't update the file modified time of the destination split = files as it writes to them, it only updates the file modified time when the= split completes.

Is this a known issue?

Che= ers,
Tim
--f46d044283b8a0acbb050cc1699c-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 16 12:09:47 2015 Received: (at 19617) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jan 2015 17:09:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59492 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YCAP5-0001Df-2d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:09:47 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:39288) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YCAP3-0001DW-7G for 19617@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:09:46 -0500 Received: from int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.23]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t0GH9fQ7006459 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:09:42 -0500 Received: from [10.3.113.41] (ovpn-113-41.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.113.41]) by int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t0GH9e6V006764; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:09:41 -0500 Message-ID: <54B945D4.2030902@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 10:09:40 -0700 From: Eric Blake Organization: Red Hat, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Stamp , 19617@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#19617: bug in split References: In-Reply-To: OpenPGP: url=http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HCr6X3hP8nXHFdEspbP4Qnvoi6O5PjuUW" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.23 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19617 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --HCr6X3hP8nXHFdEspbP4Qnvoi6O5PjuUW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tag 19617 notabug thanks On 01/16/2015 02:15 AM, Tim Stamp wrote: > Good morning, >=20 > I noticed that the split command doesn't update the file modified time = of > the destination split files as it writes to them, it only updates the f= ile > modified time when the split completes. split doesn't explicitly modify timestamps at all. The behavior you are seeing is solely a function of your kernel and filesystem options, in relation to the timing between coreutils flushes and closes each file that it has written. >=20 > Is this a known issue? It's normal behavior. Even if there were something to patch, you would have to get it fixed in the kernel, not in split. Therefore, I'm closing this as not a bug, although you should feel welcome to ask further questions as needed on this thread. --=20 Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org --HCr6X3hP8nXHFdEspbP4Qnvoi6O5PjuUW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Public key at http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJUuUXUAAoJEKeha0olJ0NqmjkIAIBSVPAMCgEr/Ww0w6slS82Y i9T+B0OBS2xBvk9t49+owQJTsIik3H8yOMKNU2jDOYYSVeN/aZNt+TRxG993zfkR bCi/RK8IgpwxFP1k2zAw8gNv3YOlk0h4BiuqgLujTPxlKKn+xu3DpvCqy6ROTMUL NBWA/DX90QbsRTBNBy52xuSby2F4hCpW00EJJxR0NErUYUij/QhImoziirWtvbQ6 uXCf2Gpa4nXnymFmO5EzCwsDA0FnRadp5xdO6d8uqb6w9jaogEqXtNnc1DrsKkYs WqBgfsjahM5cl0NMG37Mz+kaolGrQ4LQTrGUG6IeVXsEurM0BXEgFGGa05kNOMc= =fSbe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HCr6X3hP8nXHFdEspbP4Qnvoi6O5PjuUW-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 16 12:12:20 2015 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jan 2015 17:12:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59496 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YCARX-0001IB-MS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:12:20 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:56359) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YCARV-0001Hy-Fm for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:12:17 -0500 Received: from int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.23]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t0GHCFNQ031870 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:12:15 -0500 Received: from [10.3.113.41] (ovpn-113-41.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.113.41]) by int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t0GHCFYI008507 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:12:15 -0500 Message-ID: <54B9466F.1000006@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 10:12:15 -0700 From: Eric Blake Organization: Red Hat, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GNU bug tracker automated control server Subject: bug#19617: bug in split References: In-Reply-To: OpenPGP: url=http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OPKX7TWs3QK2djecUEKiUwPlvXXjjGTet" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.23 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --OPKX7TWs3QK2djecUEKiUwPlvXXjjGTet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tag 19617 notabug thanks On 01/16/2015 02:15 AM, Tim Stamp wrote: > Good morning, >=20 > I noticed that the split command doesn't update the file modified time = of > the destination split files as it writes to them, it only updates the f= ile > modified time when the split completes. split doesn't explicitly modify timestamps at all. The behavior you are seeing is solely a function of your kernel and filesystem options, in relation to the timing between coreutils flushes and closes each file that it has written. >=20 > Is this a known issue? It's normal behavior. Even if there were something to patch, you would have to get it fixed in the kernel, not in split. Therefore, I'm closing this as not a bug, although you should feel welcome to ask further questions as needed on this thread. --=20 Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org --OPKX7TWs3QK2djecUEKiUwPlvXXjjGTet Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Public key at http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJUuUZvAAoJEKeha0olJ0NqdMMIAK6OK7vyinGzSwrlY+woeHv9 HaLLy9fOFao4r7TMNQd5OSPC+wt/VMPlceYbGnL5SRKknoFXQ7f6qRVIvvcflh1c OHG3LlxL7j9yWi5gkysAJpEWAfXF0jegzEzxLDNnHRixj9upLeFS3WRi/LsM+Fwj 2w3tMJGYDfEvIL9+Y6iUAJfr4rjhepaLVa1b7bJL1T917PU222PDv71vgkOkxRnS YrPLUfHi0BgZPZpAFkHLTp4NGzc+Qd4OcZYhHoyLr3XC/xzVjXU339NnqeAERhTg gfPkeWIZn3f0O8GXv2Ew40CNIXQgTSjywJHlvNWZQhV576UQPH+aIqfBNi8iXR4= =vRSf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OPKX7TWs3QK2djecUEKiUwPlvXXjjGTet-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Oct 21 18:10:07 2018 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2018 22:10:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34850 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gELvD-0003q1-Me for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:10:07 -0400 Received: from mail-io1-f52.google.com ([209.85.166.52]:34251) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gELvC-0003oz-9T for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:10:06 -0400 Received: by mail-io1-f52.google.com with SMTP id d80-v6so5360855iof.1 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 15:10:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=to:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tJQCKrJa7w7FbULtbj61F0lrPs/6iN95NjmSlTAdWk8=; b=nHvY6U8r/t0Qaft83hBVkBKZjYxjQF9nLRDHly+jIlAD3muq6A/nmqV+lo9hTAPfIS Pr3Luk5HBuv/fWjstv8o1Jy0UHjrwwUWcJKhHs7HzLqneHegzdduofwGvo/eXehlbJZb S15r6j4Lx9V6JtLr+KePRuKEI3SYGa0PgukH6R83BZU7XUvS3yMS3k7J2VEJg0dEVdm3 g3c0l9twHVaxaOTzjVDSTQeQRDYBV8ERDzlgs/11ydh6DQ9FrAFcu/7rQszz4gp9jHxL APU2MmfGzxSytTiqWX6LsSIiCKzyAABUME57/mKJC/FkHTlsq9XZ+df0RdFjkmlyKhoW oEmw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tJQCKrJa7w7FbULtbj61F0lrPs/6iN95NjmSlTAdWk8=; b=GFNJMxtu955PnUt5KU5CEfXlGrPluTNKhZBMLlaJ67zB30Ncnc0g9OPdOrTEQl/wvU DujzRiKB1tBGJkjwvzvYjAUtpeZPi8nkvLmB1txra+AEoWKupDqt9i1VV74+abJ2jBgX zybIOw1pj0C492HhNTa5IkaUyvtqrZxIdNSJF10XECxGOo9X5C6qwE4A+tgUY62i5dEF Tsi3Og2wP7zDTw4njBSZ1tgbbFLRBmdcmJ+kQZFp16RlMnQCrdLrARpbxiOHJgBvRHQJ 4Aw7k3rSumVX/RAIr+rIFOIdT+tS5UJsDaqh5N7fDSWfTEXAY0Dmy55WkFGqD19nwfGK oaxA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gIjS+J36P6R8NCvPEtQ6fMHE6ak0haakK9N/13wtv9ibPDtJWh0 dHhrYTvR6rwnnw8F5dCfsV63VEpT X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5dNE1rWesfuitxs0ZaBFWiEfofxCrwOwDfIgOZ5k/R6AJE4oIDh8OFm0hE9WBNqaqyMTaQWRw== X-Received: by 2002:a6b:bf04:: with SMTP id p4-v6mr6681866iof.141.1540159800444; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 15:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomato.housegordon.com (moose.housegordon.com. 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