From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:37:45 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19608: 25.0.50; Elisp manual: add index entry for major modes killing local variables Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 19608 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 19608@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.142134097712738 (code B ref -1); Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:57:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2015 16:56:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57930 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YBniS-0003JO-JB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:56:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54422) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YBniR-0003JC-IV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:56:16 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBniL-0007Tg-5r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:56:10 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:53600) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBniL-0007Tc-35 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:56:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56139) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBniK-0004aL-0S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:56:09 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBniG-0007Su-R5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:56:07 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:32406) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBniG-0007Sk-Ir for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:56:04 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t0FGu2W0011475 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:56:03 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t0FGu2v7023801 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:56:02 GMT Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t0FGu2BD023785 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:56:02 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <12d077bf-194a-4e56-922b-e6478d547c80@default> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 08:56:01 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) I've seen a few times now the question posed as to why local variables that have been set become unset. Users who asked sometimes looked for info in the Elisp manual but didn't find it. Please consider adding an index entry that might help users get there when looking up local variable information. Dunno what the best such entry/entries might be. Perhap something like: "local variables, killed automatically" or "local variables, killed by major modes". Anyway, you get the idea. Here is one such question: http://emacs.stackexchange.com/q/7391/105. In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-10-20 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 118168 rgm@gnu.org-20141020195941-icp42t8ttcnud09g Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs CPPFLAGS=3D-DGLYPH_DEBUG=3D1' From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:37:45 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.503 (Entity 5.503) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Drew Adams Subject: bug#19608: closed (Re: bug#19608: 25.0.50; Elisp manual: add index entry for major modes killing local variables) Message-ID: References: <83r3uw2bl8.fsf@gnu.org> <12d077bf-194a-4e56-922b-e6478d547c80@default> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 19608 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 19608@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:34:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1421343242-26771-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1421343242-26771-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #19608: 25.0.50; Elisp manual: add index entry for major modes killing loca= l variables which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 19608@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 19608: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D19608 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1421343242-26771-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 19608-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2015 17:33:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57959 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YBoI2-0006wD-7P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 12:33:02 -0500 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:43586) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YBoI0-0006vr-Ep for 19608-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 12:33:01 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NI800L00BCH0100@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 19608-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:32:53 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NI800KYWBESR9A0@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:32:53 +0200 (IST) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:33:07 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#19608: 25.0.50; Elisp manual: add index entry for major modes killing local variables In-reply-to: <12d077bf-194a-4e56-922b-e6478d547c80@default> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Drew Adams Message-id: <83r3uw2bl8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <12d077bf-194a-4e56-922b-e6478d547c80@default> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19608-done Cc: 19608-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 08:56:01 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > > I've seen a few times now the question posed as to why local variables > that have been set become unset. Users who asked sometimes looked for > info in the Elisp manual but didn't find it. > > Please consider adding an index entry that might help users get there > when looking up local variable information. Dunno what the best such > entry/entries might be. Perhap something like: > > "local variables, killed automatically" or "local variables, killed by > major modes". Anyway, you get the idea. Done. ------------=_1421343242-26771-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2015 16:56:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57930 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YBniS-0003JO-JB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:56:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54422) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YBniR-0003JC-IV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:56:16 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBniL-0007Tg-5r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:56:10 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:53600) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBniL-0007Tc-35 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:56:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56139) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBniK-0004aL-0S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:56:09 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBniG-0007Su-R5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:56:07 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:32406) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBniG-0007Sk-Ir for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 11:56:04 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t0FGu2W0011475 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:56:03 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t0FGu2v7023801 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:56:02 GMT Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t0FGu2BD023785 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:56:02 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <12d077bf-194a-4e56-922b-e6478d547c80@default> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 08:56:01 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.0.50; Elisp manual: add index entry for major modes killing local variables X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) I've seen a few times now the question posed as to why local variables that have been set become unset. Users who asked sometimes looked for info in the Elisp manual but didn't find it. Please consider adding an index entry that might help users get there when looking up local variable information. Dunno what the best such entry/entries might be. Perhap something like: "local variables, killed automatically" or "local variables, killed by major modes". Anyway, you get the idea. Here is one such question: http://emacs.stackexchange.com/q/7391/105. In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-10-20 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 118168 rgm@gnu.org-20141020195941-icp42t8ttcnud09g Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs CPPFLAGS=3D-DGLYPH_DEBUG=3D1' ------------=_1421343242-26771-1--